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Hi! James, Son is back home now, Mission a total success! Tons of
nodule samples of all sizes for chemical analysis. Field of nodules much
bigger and longer that originally estimated. Many $ billions worth of
elements to be dredged up from 4400 meters water depth! Harvesting
dredges being developed as we write! Work like a Sod Farm machine! My
son operates the AUV.
On 6/14/2018 12:17 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Thanks norm on the DC conversion never hear of that .but I think that
> what's important hear is continuity of pattern in designs one very hi
> positive DC voltage pluses Thu a spark gap .good results from carbon
> siver tipped rods. Tesla's way and don smith's way Bedini way but no
> gap just hi voltage DC impulses looks like the Swiss wheel way .all
> this points to hi positive DC hi voltage implied creating broken
> symmetry .in the ether .
>
> On Jun 14, 2018 10:31 AM, "Mick [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Hi Norm,
>
> How is your son doing on his deep seabed mining adventure?
>
> Can you point out any more info in regards to designs for the tube
> and magnets? I have found a bit more in the Colo Springs Notes
> but surmise there is more existing if one knows where to look.
> Tesla has so much information it is overwhelming and often hard to
> locate as there does not seem to be a properly designed
> repository/ database in order one can discriminate functionality
> such as everything on spark gaps etc.
>
> Also any of your notes you would be willing to share based on
> replication of the Pg25 tube, such as: length-width, gas type,
> pressure, magnet construction.
>
> From my cursory experiments in order to create the flux
> disturbances to pull the environment out of equilibrium in order
> to harvest, exemplary control of the two fields is requisite as
> individual vectors to the point of fractioning one from the other
> as much as possible.
>
> Also nice to have bistable core material on hand.
>
> The term superlight from the good Dr also makes me thing of the
> concave magnet face like a lens.
>
>
> On 6/14/2018 5:54 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Thank You! Mick for your, pounded it into my head remark! One
>> of the biggest problems that I have with fellow researchers is
>> the fact that past historical evidence is laid out clearly for
>> them to follow and utilized in our circuits in our search for the
>> Holy Grail. Classic example is current discussion of magnet gap
>> quenching and the development of that highly elusive Tesla white
>> Fire plasma. You have to go back to the most fundamental
>> magnetic device that Tesla built and Patented which was the
>> preferred path magnetic rectifier used to power the DC arc street
>> lights after he had provided AC power to New Your City. There
>> were no diodes or selenium rectifiers back in the day, so Tesla
>> used the basic principle used in the buck/ boost transformers.
>> Basically a full wave bridge so to speak using magnetic flux path
>> to rectify AC into DC. In 1899, while working on Telegraphy he
>> applied this principle as depicted on page 25 in the Colorado
>> Springs Notes. When you take a coil wound around a permanent
>> magnet and DC bias via a variable pot the break over voltage of
>> an evacuated plasma tube, you have created the key to the
>> unidirectional gap. You get a disruptive discharge that has
>> absolutely no ring down oscillations and is shown on a scope as a
>> straight down event achieving Tesla's famous quote Compression of
>> energy in time. When I built Tesla's Disruptive Discharge
>> transformer and used a powerful magnet horn gap using the carbon
>> rods and again used the alpha emitter thorated tungsten TIG rods
>> I was able to get the white fire plasma discharge which was not a
>> conventional spark. What is developed is the brush discharge of
>> many filaments or threads. Yes! I believe this is where the
>> aetheric event happens. This is an example of a Magneto-Electric
>> event. (reference Super Light).
>>
>>
>> On 6/11/2018 9:40 AM, Mick [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Smokey,
>>>
>>> That is some great information, thanks for the Chernetski link
>>> mind opening.
>>>
>>> Your pictures: a few of the thyratrons don't look as if they
>>> were happy being used as spark gaps.
>>>
>>> Looks like you have everything together except the magnet. Back
>>> to page 25 Colo Springs Notes which Norm so gently pounded into
>>> my head. This experiment has all the factors you speak of, the
>>> plasma just stressed to the point before it conducts, the magnet
>>> snuffing out the plasma etc. I would suggest that is the
>>> genesis of proper design of the Gray tube. Norm is one of the
>>> few who had the actual Gray devices in his hands so he should know.
>>>
>>> Something else I noticed in the magnet layout during
>>> experiments. Electromagnet shaped as a concave lens works well,
>>> I think this is also very important in order to concentrate flux
>>> like a lens with light.
>>>
>>> TK is doing something entirely different, could almost be
>>> considered the inverse of the above.
>>>
>>> Hey more than one way to skin a cat they say, but I love cats so
>>> take umbrage with the metaphor.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/11/2018 3:22 AM, David G Dawson [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Warren,
>>>> Thank You for responding.
>>>> I can only suggest that you bring it back out and have another
>>>> go but have voltage and current meters wired up so you can see
>>>> the instant of the phenomena and be able to adjust both your
>>>> voltage applied and also the lower Carbon.
>>>> You don't need Silver on the Carbon gap.
>>>> I made a discovery which I called 'Impulse Discharge' and have
>>>> included an Introduction below which refers to this phenomena.
>>>> The Russians Chernetsky/Galkin did the same calling it a 'Self
>>>> Generating Discharge' which was replicated by Frolov but I only
>>>> discovered this many years later after my own discovery.
>>>>
>>>> http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm
>>>> <http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm>
>>>>
>>>> This is what Tesla was doing with the Magnet around his spark
>>>> gap, there to extinguish the spark as soon as possible as that
>>>> was when the magic happened.
>>>> I apologise if I am repeating myself with other Posts.
>>>>
>>>> What I am currently setting up is a series of tests to find the
>>>> most active materials to use and also that of a catalyst in a
>>>> Plasma Valve which is similar to Bruce Perrault's Ion Valve.
>>>> More information on this at Yahoo Groups 'dltorsiondevices' or
>>>> 'Crystal-devices'.
>>>> What this could mean in your case with the CST is that you add
>>>> an element within the cage when a plasma is active that is able
>>>> to amplify the ambient/ether component to greatly increase any
>>>> output.
>>>>
>>>> My criteria for an 'Energy Synthesis' device is that it is non
>>>> physical with NO moving parts and the CST fits that bill and
>>>> you forget the motor side entirely.
>>>> *Remember also that you charge Capacitors in Series and
>>>> discharge in Parallel so what you have is a Voltage charge
>>>> string and an Amps discharge string.*
>>>> This is another modification that I intend attempting.
>>>> Capacitors below which I didn't mention are oil filled 8uF 4kV
>>>> with 3 or 4 in series or parallel.
>>>> Again, the oil filled have ether entry conotations as well.
>>>>
>>>> So, anywhere there was a spark gap, look to see if you may have
>>>> interpreted that incorrectly and it should have been a plasma
>>>> gap and just before an arc would be made.
>>>> Remember where Tesla was with his Magnifing Transmitter (TMT),
>>>> he didn't want the sparks but just backed off sufficiently and
>>>> was working with the plasma only.
>>>> So what happened here was that the controllers came in and said
>>>> OH what beautiful sparks you can make with a Tesla Coil and
>>>> everybody fell for it 'hook line and sinker' as it took you
>>>> well away from the magic right before the spark.
>>>>
>>>> Just sit back quietly now and think of all the maintenance that
>>>> is really required when you have a spark, *heat/constant gap
>>>> control/cleaning contacts/RF interference/noise etc *and why
>>>> would anybody in their right mind want to have a continual
>>>> spark running 24/7 and attempting to give you an energy for
>>>> free using this methodology.
>>>> A Plasma gap runs cold with little maintanance.
>>>> Did you ever have a car with a multivibrator running for the
>>>> car radio?
>>>> Guess what had a very limited lifetime.
>>>>
>>>> *Impulse Discharge discovery:*
>>>> See data attached.
>>>> In the 'Impulse Discharge at work' picture you will see the
>>>> ether entry phenomena in action, no spark at the gap, current
>>>> near zero but the capacitors continuing to charge with about
>>>> 1200 volts stored.
>>>> The supply for this is from Bruce's old NuEnergy Site in the
>>>> Bob Ianinni 'Ion Pump' which works well and modified for a
>>>> broader frequency range.
>>>> Operating frequency here is 75.76khz.
>>>> Flyback is from a Blaupunkt TV 9kV and is used in the TV with a
>>>> Tripler to give 28 kV but not used here and one of the
>>>> experiments on my list to do.
>>>>
>>>> Capacitors are 100pF 20kV in a string of 10.
>>>> This is a variant of one of Don Smith's circuits with the caps
>>>> above strung across the secondary and not in one lead.
>>>> There is something here in the string cap idea which is also
>>>> unknown but I believe also has connotations leading to ether
>>>> entry - dielectricty.
>>>>
>>>> Diodes are HVM12 - 12kV common microwave oven types and have
>>>> plans to replace these with 'fast' types as an improvement.
>>>> Notice the crazy angle of the spark Carbons as I was unable to
>>>> maintain a face to face attitude.
>>>> At the instant of ether entry, the current dropped from 21 to 7
>>>> Watts and had wondered what had failed but a quick look at the
>>>> volt meter told me otherwise and the discovery was made.
>>>>
>>>> This phenomena was discovered in 2011 and at that same time
>>>> Kapanadze was active and he wound up with a 4 spark very noisy
>>>> device and I think that turned me off as that was one of the
>>>> criteria I didnt want was an actual spark.
>>>> I set up an output from the storage capacitors using Gas
>>>> Discharge Tubes (GDTs) but these failed miserably as did
>>>> another spark gap and in such was the long road into how to
>>>> downconvert the stored energy.
>>>> In hindsite now I should have worked to obtain a plasma gap at
>>>> the output as well as input.
>>>>
>>>> *Part of my working criteria was no batteries nor inverters and
>>>> a direct output into a transformer at the correct ac voltage.*
>>>>
>>>> One condition of note was observed in the Tesla Hairpin when
>>>> the spark was operating in that there were more than just one
>>>> spark but a multitude which created a bloom outwards in the
>>>> spark centre and I guess there were something like 10 or more
>>>> streamers in that gap.
>>>> *This is just another test I would like to complete with this
>>>> unit to see if a plasma gap can also be obtained here.*
>>>> I have pictures of the spark and also from an oscilloscope and
>>>> will Post when found - see picture numbers below.
>>>> The spark picture was taken with the probe sitting on a nail on
>>>> the wooden frame some 6" away and has a duplication or echo
>>>> seen on the screen.
>>>>
>>>> When Bruce first displayed his Ion Valve, I did some
>>>> experiments with units I made up in Copper, Aluminium and
>>>> Carbon but did not venture fully into the research as I was
>>>> involved with Vacuum Tubes and Eric Dollard and delving into
>>>> Pulsing and Thyratrons as that was what appeared at the time to
>>>> be the best means of downconversion.
>>>> The reason for the Dollard Cosmic Ray Detector (CRD) - used an
>>>> OA4G thyratron and his Pulser using a 5R4GYB and 2050 thyratron.
>>>> The Tube research was also a re-eduction of myself into their
>>>> operating abilities for further progress in developing a Plasma
>>>> Valve.
>>>>
>>>> This is an introduction to my work in this particular field and
>>>> hope that it may help others with the phenomena we have discovered.
>>>> At this point I will add that I have some 5 other projects on
>>>> my benches and all with a prospect of 'Energy Synthesis'.
>>>> Respectfully.
>>>>
>>>> Smokey
>>>>
>>>> *Picture Listing:
>>>> *1987 Tesla Hairpin spark gap - effect duplicated due to bounce
>>>> 1830 Ion Valves in Impulse Discharge circuit
>>>> 1834 Plasma Valve candidates - see the green glass of Radium in
>>>> the large capacitor - also displays carbon Anodes which were
>>>> eventually scrapped but why? Near all have long barrel type tubes.
>>>> 1911 Carbon Rods from old style projector arc generators -
>>>> Notice the Copper around the two central ones and have now a
>>>> full tin of these a little larger. Also Spark gaps that I use
>>>> but find Carbon the best - no maintenance - Tesla/Carbon/Warmth
>>>> Ether. Bottom right mid are Carbons from 'C' and 'D' alkaline
>>>> batteries.
>>>> 1913 Tesla Harpin showing it working and note the large number
>>>> of singular arcs in the gap and how it bows outward.
>>>> You grab these lamps in your bare hands and then go dip the lot
>>>> into a bowl of water and I am still here as nothing happens in
>>>> opposition to ac electricity. The Neon Lamp transformer is 12kV
>>>> at 60mA.
>>>>
>>>> Smokey
>>>>
>>>> On 11/06/2018 6:49 PM, Warren Keillor
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> I made a very nice Gray tube, years ago to the best specs that
>>>>> were available.
>>>>> The cage did give me a signal, but I was not able to
>>>>> communicate with anyone regarding the use of this piece of
>>>>> apparatus for, it seemed, of no interest to anyone. I still
>>>>> have it with my hoard of" might have been" interesting
>>>>> artifacts, stuffed in cardboard boxes, sitting in the corner
>>>>> of a barn. I moved them when I moved, for reasons , even I
>>>>> don't know. I supose perhaps like some crazy artist, because I
>>>>> made them, as beautiful , as I could, because I could, and
>>>>> hated to see them tossed in the garbage.
>>>>> I see this era, and what we are doing, as pioneering, and
>>>>> sometime, someone, might appreciate the heritage of our
>>>>> efforts, even if at the time, no one does.
>>>>> I feel your mess age is like a blast from the past, out of
>>>>> some other time zone.
>>>>> Are you, in fact, working with Gray tubes?
>>>>> It broke my heart to not find magic there.
>>>>> Perhaps, I just missed the secret password and was knocking on
>>>>> a door that no one answered?
>>>>> Cheers, and good to hear from you
>>>>> Warren
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 12:01 AM, David G Dawson
>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> *Focus to the EVGRAY Forum:
>>>>> EV Gray CST:*
>>>>> *"Energy Conversion Switching Element Tube"
>>>>> *See attached.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/evgray/1gray.htm
>>>>> <http://www.rexresearch.com/evgray/1gray.htm>
>>>>>
>>>>> In my most humble opinion, all of those that attempted a
>>>>> replication of the CST failed to understand the working
>>>>> criteria of the original Valve.
>>>>> The addition of the Silver tips is, I believe, by one of
>>>>> those replicators and was NOT required.
>>>>>
>>>>> *What all of these people failed to understand was that
>>>>> the unit operated without a spark and was a PLASMA event
>>>>> that was taking place at the gap.
>>>>>
>>>>> *One simple reason for its bottom Carbon rod to be made
>>>>> adjustable just to the point where the spark extinguished.
>>>>> Imagine how long the Tube would have lasted with a spark
>>>>> ongoing full time?
>>>>> This would have been similar to the old Carbon Arc
>>>>> Projectors that actually used up the Carbon rod to supply
>>>>> the white light and often failed as the Carbon rod had to
>>>>> replaced (1940/50s).
>>>>> You actually adjusted the speed of the rod being consumed
>>>>> for the best lighting effect.
>>>>>
>>>>> *I actually have a bench which I call the 'EV Gray Bench'
>>>>> and is where I do all of my high voltage work and where
>>>>> the plasma event was discovered.*
>>>>>
>>>>> For all of those at *EV Gray* - this is what you are
>>>>> supposed to be here for and more to do with respect for
>>>>> one another without any expletives of any manner.
>>>>> Now, I have given you some most valuable information and
>>>>> hope that this may lead to you also discovering a plasma
>>>>> event at the spark gap without the spark.
>>>>> This is what Tesla was doing with his Magnet around the
>>>>> Spark Gap as he wanted to extinguish the spark as quickly
>>>>> as possible as this is where the magic begins.
>>>>> There is also another modification that I have passed on
>>>>> here earlier with respect to Diodes in his motor schematic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now what is the name of this Forum again EVGRAY.
>>>>>
>>>>> Respectfully
>>>>>
>>>>> Smokey
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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