Re: AW: [EVGRAY] Re: Mystery machine

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Hi Thomas and HD
 I would not suggest to use the Rene type battery charger design....
 I have built maybe 20 of them, sold some, gave some away for testing... they are very good chargers but could not see them be overunity consistently in how they would charge up lead acid large 12V golf cart type batteries.
 I would measure how many watts to charge up a battery from 11.7V to 13.8V in my testing, and would then run a load and measure how many watts the load would consume until the voltage in  battery dropped to 11.7V then would do another charge cycle like that.
 The load was incadescent 120V light bul run through an invertor, while the 11.7 was when the low voltage warning buzzer would go off on the invertor...
 The rene chargers are not di a "pure spike" charge to the lead acids, instead first the rene charger sends in a 18 to 20V pulse right through the battery, in a conventional forward charge that contains some amperage to it, and this forward charge behaves just like any battery charger.
 After the forward charge, then there is a backemf/recoil spike sent through the battery, this spike coming from the remaining 6 to 8 volts "leftover" from that initial forward pulse of 18 to 20v sent through the 12V battery...
 So that is how it works, it is half a conventional charger, half a spike charger...
 I do not think Lithium type batteries will receive a spike charge very well, in fact most probably very dangerous as they may explode....so these sorts of spike chargers are limited to lead acid type batteries.
 However if using Flooded lead acid batteries, such as golf cart type, and you instead use the "Bedini wheel" type of charger now you should get some good overunity results...as the current input to the bedini wheel chargers is very very low, under 100ma maybe only 20 or 30ma and the wheel spins lsow around 100rpm...here are some links to kits for them you can see the design pretty easy they say these are unavailable now....maybe they don't work right with the addition of 7 power winds and one trigger wind in the coil - usually a bedini wheel will have only one "power" wind...
 Also the fan on these is stupid idea I think if you want it to be a battery charger and nothing else....
 I would think one of these with a Styrofoam wheel - very very lightweight with magnetically floating bearings like the Mendocino wheel could operate on 10ma or so and 12V input which is next to nothing in power input....in meantime after 24 hours maybe 48 you can have a depleted big 80AH battery fully charged...
 here is the link to the bedini wheel kits:
 http://teslachargers.com/products/bedini-sg/bedini-sg-kits/ http://teslachargers.com/products/bedini-sg/bedini-sg-kits/