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Hi Norman,
If not splitting up electromagnetism into separate disciplines it is easier to explain what happens. Ivor Catt spent several decades trying to find out where the charges (electrons) in the return wire came from. The problem was that the load and the source couldn't communicate with each other faster than the speed of the signal. So Catt wondered how the battery could deliver the proper power to a load at the other end of a transmission line without knowing how much power the load needed (i.e. that's the resistance of the load). The energy moves in the space between the wires. This happens like the Theory of W.B. Smith tells as three fields at right angle to each other. What classical physics don't realize is that the signal speed itself is given by what Smith calls the Tempic field. Catt describes it more like the physical constants known as the dielectric and the permeability constants. Those two constants determine the signal speed v as:
Using the material constants for vacuum gives the signal speed in vacuum known as the speed of light in vacuum:
The vacuum permittivity and vacuum permeability constants:
This also indicates that a vacuum isn't empty as it has those properties. This also should make us go back to J.W. Keely T.JJ. See N. Tesla etc. that claimed that there was one or more aethers. Today this is called the zero point energy field. The physical constants tells that there is something there. W.B. Smith made a simple device to measure the binding force that holds together the atoms. He never found a way to calibrate the instrument. This field could be the two fundamental constants shown above.
I guess what what you call the neutral spike will be what Catt didn't realize for some decades as what made the electrons move in the return wire of a transmission line. Catt realized that it was the energy moving as fields in between the wires that induced the electrons or charge carriers in the return wire of the loop. Electrons move very slow compared to the speed of the signal. This also conflicts the old Faraday's law of induction because of some superposition of the signals when dealing with transmission lines. This is also one of the reasons that no universities wants to publicize or even discuss Catt's theories.
Citing Ivor Catt from page four here http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x343.pdf http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x343.pdf:
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A Change ln Theory
ln my article entitled 'Displacement Current’ in Wireless World in December 1978 I pointed out that when a battery charges a capacitor, the energy is introduced into the capacitor at the speed of light. Once inside the capacitor, there is no mechanism for the energy to slow down.
The change in theory for a charged capacitor from stationary electric field to two electromagnetic fields travelling at the speed of light is an introduction to my general theory, that there is no such thing as a stationary field, electric or magnetic. Not only in the case of a charged capacitor, but always, any apparently stationary electric or magnetic field is in fact the superposition of two E x H electromagnetic fields travelling in opposite directions. Occam’s Razor supports this assertion. In the case of the charged capacitor, the two magnetic fields are equal and opposite. They cancel, so an instrument cannot detect them. This gives the impression that a charged capacitor only has electric field, although the energy delivered to it when charging is a TEM wave of E x H energy current. The delivered energy is conventionally said to have half its energy in the electric field and half in its magnetic field, travelling at the speed of light.
In Electronics World, January 2011, page 20, I again proved from first principles that such a TEM wave can
only travel at the speed of light for the dielectric, ±1/√με. It cannot travel slower. In our case the only possible velocity remains c, because it should be well known that when two pulses travel through each other in a coaxial cable they do not slow down. Rather, I2R losses disappear. •
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The highlighted line tells what happens when separating electricity and magnetism into separate disciplines. Don't do so to get the correct answer. Superposition may cancel the waves to make them look like not existing. E.g. Anti Parallel Magnetic flux Annihilation. The energy still exists as an electric field as well as the 'tempic' field (field of change).
"I call it an Aetheric event and does not comply to conventional electronics theory."
The neutral spike is energy traveling between the wire and whatever forms the return wire like the neighboring wire or the floor and walls etc. The fields spread out until reflected or confined by whatever is conductive to them. Resistive parts change the energy into heat (by friction). Treat the wires as transmission lines when working with signals of shorter wavelength than the length of the wires.
The Wakefield Experiments Background and Motivation:
http://www.naturalphilosophy.org/site/harryricker/2015/12/12/the-wakefield-experiments-background-and-motivation/ http://www.naturalphilosophy.org/site/harryricker/2015/12/12/the-wakefield-experiments-background-and-motivation/
How wave fronts affects neighboring wires of multiple transmission lines:
http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x164npa.pdf http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x164npa.pdf
By the way W.B. Smith's associate W.J. Hooper also confirmed that only some of the fields cancel while other parts of the signals continue on their way. The problem is classical electromagnetism don't want to see the light.
"BTW!!! When a magnetic field collapses in a saturated inductor, assisted by a capacitor discharge (polarity) (Magneto-Electric Effect) we see a straight down line on the scope (compression of energy in time) due to the fact that the LENZ effect does not apply (mutual inductance)."
If the spike happens during the moment of saturation it's because most of the inductance of the coil suddenly disappears. This induces a high voltage as saturation happens very fast. Removing the coil core like opening the magnetic circuit of a relay (shooting away the armature) will give the same effect.
Here is an image showing the voltage spikes of an open secondary of a current transformer:
Source: https://www.electrical4u.com/knee-point-voltage-of-current-transformer-ps-class/ https://www.electrical4u.com/knee-point-voltage-of-current-transformer-ps-class/
Observe that the high voltage spikes are formed each time the core enters and leaves magnetic saturation because of the quick change in flux density. The spikes may damage the insulation or cause arc discharges. An arc is plasma which is highly conductive and can start a new conductive path to a high current circuit like it is done in some arc welders. Here a small current of higher voltage starts the big current used for heating the metal. If an arc forms to the grid a big current of high power can be started from the grid. The initial arc could jump across an open switch. At least this scenario has to be investigated.
Regards
Ole
---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
Ole! You have a wonderful ability and knowledge to provide explanations of conventional electronic theory and applications. BUT, some how fail to grasp what Hector and I have been trying to get across, NEUTRAL SPIKE ENERGY. Since back in 1899, (page 25 Colorado Springs Notes) Tesla clearly outlined just how to get an earth response to unidirectional pulses. Simplicity from day one! The source of the energy spike is from the ground and that needs to be addressed. My Ludgren buzzer experiments point out just how this earth response works. OK! Take the buzzer along with the 6VDC power supply(battery) ( when switch closed) is a closed loop. Negative side of battery is grounded to buzzer frame ground side of circuit. Being sure that you have no body contact with earth ground, hold the buzzer in your hand and energize and you will feel nothing (famous Bird on the Wire) because you are part of the isolated circuit path as buzzer makes and breaks and produces the inductive kick (conventional electronics). Now ground your body to an earth ground contact and repeat experiment holding the metal frame of the buzzer and you will get the Penny winking crap knocked out of you! As hector and I have pointed out so many times, the Neutral Spike Energy comes from the earth ground source just as Mr. Tesla tried to convey, way back in 1899. If a circuit with an inductor and capacitance is energized and electrical energy is stored in said circuit via magnetically saturated inductor and charged capacitor, (totally isolated from earth ground) that energy simply cannot be destroyed or lost. It changes form into what has been proven in Physics labs, a case of Anti Parallel Magnetic flux Annihilation. In space, this phenomenon has been studies in the solar storms which produce the EMP burst that traverse space. In the lab, we can duplicate this phenomenon, which when the exactly right X-L / X-C match, we get the earth response from the Anti Parallel Flux Annihilation. I call it an Aetheric event and does not comply to conventional electronics theory. If you want to call it Cold Electricity, be my guest. BTW!!! When a magnetic field collapses in a saturated inductor, assisted by a capacitor discharge (polarity) (Magneto-Electric Effect) we see a straight down line on the scope (compression of energy in time) due to the fact that the LENZ effect does not apply (mutual inductance). All of my lab bench experiments have proven to me that all of this is real and easily replicated and can be seen by all of you. Please go on-line and research Flux Annihilation and resulting EMP.
https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#12 https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#12 Please read and understand that Tesla showed you how to use a small plasma tube way back in 1899 to get this effect!
Message 8171 DATE/TIME: 08/29/94 10:42
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
To : ALL
Subject: Energy
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
One of the keys to understanding ZPE is to first obtain an accurate
definition of "ordinary" energy. Just as there are many types of
matter, there are many types of energy, or are there? If matter does
consist of concentrated energy, and particle physics does tend to
support this assumption, then does the type of energy affect the type
of matter which is created? Are solids, liquids, gases and plasmas
the end result of, for example, stress, heat, magnetism and electric
energies? If all of the forms of matter are based upon the classic
chart of the elements, and hydrogen in a fusion reaction creates
these elements, then what energy creates the fusion? Is this energy
of necessity hot, since "cold fusion" research is well funded and
ongoing even today? Will the matter created by cold fusion be, in
reality, antimatter relative to the matter created by hot fusion,
like energies that are out of phase?
In researching ZPE, we often see anomalous results which defy logical
explanation, because our current understanding does not include the
definitions of these events. It's like discovering an all new color,
and trying to describe it, when it is nothing like the colors that we
know. Russell could envision the opposing vortical energy flows on
an enormous level, creating galaxies at the vortical junction. This
revelation "hit" him after being struck by lightning, and after his
family thought that he had lost his sanity. And yet, he used Tesla
coils in opposing phase with a third coil, and created a validated
ZPE generator. His chart of the elements is resonance based, and
conforms to the music scale of notes, which conforms to PHI, the
Golden Ratio, which conforms to pyramid geometry. That is why I have
said that a pyramid is a Tesla coil made of rock.
All of this conforms to the MAGIC_T, which is used today for radar
and other microwave energy. But what IS energy? Is there more than
one type, or just variations on a theme? Part of the answer may be
found in the fact that both the Egyptians and the Mescalero Apaches
worshipped AMMON RA (the sun), as their supreme "creator". This has
always been considered VERY SECRET by the Apache, who will not speak
his name out loud, except in special ceremonies, for fear of invoking
his wrath. Somewhere on this planet, at some time, there were those
who KNEW the definition of energy...the "father" energy that creates
or makes possible all of the other lesser energies. They gave AMMON
RA and pyramid technology to tribes all over the world, in the hope
that we might understand.
Logic demands that a definition of anything includes the SOURCE of
that thing, and that is where traditional physics is lacking. Energy
cannot be created or destroyed, so then, what is the source of the
current energy? What was the source of the source, and where did the
hydrogen clouds come from, anyway? On a more philosophical note, how
many more generations of humans will be condemned to starvation, war,
servitude and sickness, because we can't answer that one question?
Please share your thoughts on this. With the answer to one question,
all else will be possible. What is energy?
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Message 10354 DATE/TIME: 01/03/95 06:51
From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) Your Messages
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
| JM> Mhos...hmmm...well, per the books, it was the closest thing I
could
| JM> find to describe the effect...ok, I'll call it by it's proper
name:
| JM> "energy density and energy transport in bidirectional EM wave
flux to
| JM> create massless displacement current via hidden channel
(Whittaker
| JM> Field) phase conjugate pumping"
|
| I think I get it now(?). By your use of the term
| Mhos, I think you are implying Negative Resistance (Negative
| power creation), which is entirely different than
| Conductance (measured in the units Mhos).
|
| Some times my "education" gets in the way the Mhos
| being a case in point. Can we come up with a term for
| Negative Resistance, and Negative Power, and avoid the use
| of Mhos so as not to confuse others? Also "Displacement
| Current" has a text book meaning and a "Free Energy" meaning
| what do we do there?
|
| Tunnel Didoes exhibit Negative Resistance. Lambda
| Diodes also do too. Tunnel Didoes are expensive these days
| ($50+). But you can make a Lambda Diode out of back to back
| P and N JFETs, connect all like leads together (gate to gate
| ect). Also the "Black Hole Antenna" work of Sutton, where
| he synthesizes -L/-R/-C. The problem here is that none of
| these really have much to do with Free Energy. So where
| does that leave us?
|
| I've read Whittakers papers, but the math in them is
| far beyond my abilities today. What I got out of them was
| that Whittaker showed than any Hertzen Wave (Transverse
| Vector Wave) could be broken down into its component Scaler
| Waves. How does this relate to the MRA?
|
| I've never quite "Got It" with the phase conjugate
| pumping stuff yet, time for more study. The timeless (-t)
| reflection back to the source point always seemed like a fun
| way to Zap the Zappers.... :-)
| .
| .
| .
| Ok I've went and dug up Physics Today/April 1981
| "Applications of optical phase conjugation" by Concetto R.
| Guiliano [Has excellent references listed at the end for any
| one thats interested]. Am I correct in assuming that the
| MRA is acting as the pilot/reference path, and that Aether is
| acting as the conjugator/source? Still feel I'm missing a
| connection here, I'll go dig out Beardon's books....
|
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On 4/9/2018 6:09 AM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
Hi Mick,
"I think Hector claimed to use a capacitor with one of these and get it to keep ringing after removing the battery to start it. I am not sure how this could be accomplished unless he was using some energy coming from the ground."
I see two possibilities for any excess energy. The high voltage spike could drag energy from the ground. The Testatika in Methernitha Linden sorted the charges of the air and used them as an energy source. Another possibility is the parametric change of the inductance of the coil. Each time the armature moves away from the coil core the inductance of the coil decreases. This represents more energy being added by increasing the current. But energy has to be added to pull in the armature in the first place. Perhaps some clever timing can do the trick by storing energy in the coil a little while after the armature has closed the magnetic circuit. Then when the coil is fully magnetized the magnetic circuit is opened while extracting the current at impedance match for best power transfer.
I have thought of such an experiment for years. The timing will have to be made variable as it has to fit the changing inductance of the coil. The timing also must be out of phase with the armature. I see this principle as a possible energy source in the Hendershot device. Another possible energy source in that device could be mixing the magnetic fields in the transformers.
Regards
Ole
---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <mkjekyll@...> mailto:mkjekyll@... wrote :
Ole,
Thanks for the explanation, really explicit.
I think Hector claimed to use a capacitor with one of these and get it to keep ringing after removing the battery to start it. I am not sure how this could be accomplished unless he was using some energy coming from the ground.
On 4/8/2018 5:54 PM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
The energy isn't OU but the voltage is being transformed.
The high voltage is the flyback voltage (inductive kick back) generated when trying to break the current through a coil. A buzzer is actually a relay wired to power itself through a normally closed contact.
Source of animation: https://wiki2.org/en/Electric_bell https://wiki2.org/en/Electric_bell
The inside of a buzzer:
Source of image: http://www.electrachime.net/resonator-door-chimes/confused-buzzer/ http://www.electrachime.net/resonator-door-chimes/confused-buzzer/
The next image shows the inductive flyback voltage formed when disrupting the current through an inductor:
Inductive kickback: (a) Switch open. (b) Switch closed, electron current flows from battery through coil which has polarity matching battery. Magnetic field stores energy. (c) Switch open, Current still flows in coil due to collapsing magnetic field. Note polarity change on coil. (d) Coil voltage vs time.
Source of the above image and text: https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/semiconductors/chpt-3/inductor-commutating-circuits/ https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/semiconductors/chpt-3/inductor-commutating-circuits/
When putting a low impedance like a diode across the inductor the flyback voltage is limited to the forward conduction voltage of the diode (voltage level d to the right). If putting a resistor in parallel to the coil the induced voltage is limited to the resistance multiplied by the current at cut off which is the voltage level (e)..
When opening the switch without any snubber circuit the voltage is limited only by the breakdown voltage of the switch and the parasitic capacitance between the turns of the coil. This makes a door bell or a buzzer or a simple relay kick back.
Because the inductive spike happens fast a wire hasn't got low enough impedance to short the spike. A wire connected to earth has too high inductance to short the spike which just follows the wire. EMC rules applies to dampen such spikes. This requires guiding the spike to some resistance that can dissipate the energy as heat or store the energy in a capacitor. For best result the snubber has to be placed close to the EMP source. This would be close to the coil by using short wires. If the snubber is placed across the switch the wires between the switch and the coil will radiate the spike through space because of the loop area formed. Any loops are to be avoided as they form coils of one turn. Remove loops by twisting the wires.
A coil carrying current acts like a current source when the circuit is opened. The current always declines from the value it has during breaking the circuit. The voltage will adjust according to the impedance of the load and of course also to the parasitic capacitance of the coil.
Regards
Ole
---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <nwootan@...> mailto:nwootan@... wrote :
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] buzzer OU Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 16:40:53 -0500 From: Norman Wootan <nwootan@...> mailto:nwootan@... To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
Back in the day (70s) W.W. Grainger sold these Lungren mouse trap buzzers in 6 or 12 VDC! Measured over 1,000 violts from these guys from frame ground side. Knock the crap out of you if you were earth grounded and held the buzzer while ir was powered up with 6VDC input!
On 4/7/2018 2:54 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
Norm,
I found an old buzzer from the 70's in a box of junk. What did you used
to do with these to study neutral spikes?
Were you ever able to get one to ring continuously with the right
capacitor and no other input besides momentary one?