Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] buzzer OU

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On 4/9/2018 8:49 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Ole!  You have a wonderful ability and knowledge to provide 
> explanations of conventional electronic theory and applications.  BUT, 
> some how fail to grasp what Hector and I have been trying to get 
> across, NEUTRAL SPIKE ENERGY. Since back in 1899, (page 25 Colorado 
> Springs Notes) Tesla clearly outlined just how to get an earth 
> response to unidirectional pulses. Simplicity from day one!  The 
> source of the energy spike is from the ground and that needs to be 
> addressed.  My Ludgren buzzer experiments point out just how this 
> earth response works. OK!  Take the buzzer along with the 6VDC power 
> supply(battery)  ( when switch closed) is a closed loop.  Negative 
> side of battery is grounded to buzzer frame ground side of circuit.  
> Being sure that you have no body contact with earth ground, hold the 
> buzzer in your hand and energize and you will feel nothing (famous 
> Bird on the Wire) because you are part of the isolated circuit path as 
> buzzer  makes and breaks and produces the inductive kick (conventional 
> electronics). Now ground your body to an earth ground contact and 
> repeat experiment holding the metal frame of the buzzer and you will 
> get the Penny winking crap knocked out of you!  As hector and I have 
> pointed out so many times, the Neutral Spike Energy comes from the 
> earth ground source just as Mr. Tesla tried to convey, way back in 
> 1899.   If a circuit with an inductor and capacitance is energized and 
> electrical energy is stored in said circuit via magnetically saturated 
> inductor and charged capacitor, (totally isolated from earth ground) 
> that energy simply cannot be destroyed or lost. It changes form into 
> what has been proven in Physics labs, a case of Anti Parallel Magnetic 
> flux Annihilation.  In space, this phenomenon has been studies in the 
> solar storms which produce the EMP burst that traverse space. In the 
> lab, we can duplicate this phenomenon, which when the exactly right 
> X-L / X-C match, we get the earth response from the Anti Parallel Flux 
> Annihilation.  I call it an Aetheric event and does not comply to 
> conventional electronics theory.  If you want to call it Cold 
> Electricity, be my guest.  BTW!!!  When a magnetic field collapses in 
> a saturated inductor, assisted by a capacitor discharge (polarity) 
> (Magneto-Electric Effect) we see a straight down line on the scope 
> (compression of energy in time) due to the fact that the LENZ effect 
> does not apply (mutual inductance).  All of my lab bench experiments 
> have proven to me that all of this is real and easily replicated and 
> can be seen by all of you.  Please go on-line and research Flux 
> Annihilation and resulting EMP.
>
> https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#12 Please read and understand 
> that Tesla showed you how to use a small plasma tube way back in 1899 
> to get this effect!
>
>
> Message 8171                                   DATE/TIME: 08/29/94 10:42
> From   : JOEL MCCLAIN
> To     : ALL
> Subject: Energy
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> One of the keys to understanding ZPE is to first obtain an accurate
> definition of "ordinary" energy.  Just as there are many types of
> matter, there are many types of energy, or are there?  If matter does
> consist of concentrated energy, and particle physics does tend to
> support this assumption, then does the type of energy affect the type
> of matter which is created?  Are solids, liquids, gases and plasmas
> the end result of, for example, stress, heat, magnetism and electric
> energies?  If all of the forms of matter are based upon the classic
> chart of the elements, and hydrogen in a fusion reaction creates
> these elements, then what energy creates the fusion?  Is this energy
> of necessity hot, since "cold fusion" research is well funded and
> ongoing even today?  Will the matter created by cold fusion be, in
> reality, antimatter relative to the matter created by hot fusion,
> like energies that are out of phase?
>
> In researching ZPE, we often see anomalous results which defy logical
> explanation, because our current understanding does not include the
> definitions of these events.  It's like discovering an all new color,
> and trying to describe it, when it is nothing like the colors that we
> know.  Russell could envision the opposing vortical energy flows on
> an enormous level, creating galaxies at the vortical junction.  This
> revelation "hit" him after being struck by lightning, and after his
> family thought that he had lost his sanity.  And yet, he used Tesla
> coils in opposing phase with a third coil, and created a validated
> ZPE generator.  His chart of the elements is resonance based, and
> conforms to the music scale of notes, which conforms to PHI, the
> Golden Ratio, which conforms to pyramid geometry.  That is why I have
> said that a pyramid is a Tesla coil made of rock.
>
> All of this conforms to the MAGIC_T, which is used today for radar
> and other microwave energy.  But what IS energy?  Is there more than
> one type, or just variations on a theme?  Part of the answer may be
> found in the fact that both the Egyptians and the Mescalero Apaches
> worshipped AMMON RA (the sun), as their supreme "creator".  This has
> always been considered VERY SECRET by the Apache, who will not speak
> his name out loud, except in special ceremonies, for fear of invoking
> his wrath.  Somewhere on this planet, at some time, there were those
> who KNEW the definition of energy...the "father" energy that creates
> or makes possible all of the other lesser energies.  They gave AMMON
> RA and pyramid technology to tribes all over the world, in the hope
> that we might understand.
>
> Logic demands that a definition of anything includes the SOURCE of
> that thing, and that is where traditional physics is lacking.  Energy
> cannot be created or destroyed, so then, what is the source of the
> current energy?  What was the source of the source, and where did the
> hydrogen clouds come from, anyway?  On a more philosophical note, how
> many more generations of humans will be condemned to starvation, war,
> servitude and sickness, because we can't answer that one question?
>
> Please share your thoughts on this.  With the answer to one question,
> all else will be possible.  What is energy?
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 10354                                  DATE/TIME: 01/03/95 06:51
> From   : BOB PADDOCK                        -- RECEIVED --
> To     : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: (R) Your Messages
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
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>  |
>  | JM> Mhos...hmmm...well, per the books, it was the closest thing I
> could
>  | JM> find to describe the effect...ok, I'll call it by it's proper
> name:
>  | JM> "energy density and energy transport in bidirectional EM wave
> flux to
>  | JM> create massless displacement current via hidden channel
> (Whittaker
>  | JM> Field) phase conjugate pumping"
>  |
>  |      I think I get it now(?).  By your use of the term
>  | Mhos, I think you are implying Negative Resistance (Negative
>  | power creation), which is entirely different than
>  | Conductance (measured in the units Mhos).
>  |
>  |      Some times my "education" gets in the way the Mhos
>  | being a case in point.  Can we come up with a term for
>  | Negative Resistance, and Negative Power, and avoid the use
>  | of Mhos so as not to confuse others?  Also "Displacement
>  | Current" has a text book meaning and a "Free Energy" meaning
>  | what do we do there?
>  |
>  |      Tunnel Didoes exhibit Negative Resistance.  Lambda
>  | Diodes also do too.  Tunnel Didoes are expensive these days
>  | ($50+).  But you can make a Lambda Diode out of back to back
>  | P and N JFETs, connect all like leads together (gate to gate
>  | ect).  Also the "Black Hole Antenna" work of Sutton, where
>  | he synthesizes -L/-R/-C.  The problem here is that none of
>  | these really have much to do with Free Energy.  So where
>  | does that leave us?
>  |
>  |      I've read Whittakers papers, but the math in them is
>  | far beyond my abilities today.  What I got out of them was
>  | that Whittaker showed than any Hertzen Wave (Transverse
>  | Vector Wave) could be broken down into its component Scaler
>  | Waves. How does this relate to the MRA?
>  |
>  |      I've never quite "Got It" with the phase conjugate
>  | pumping stuff yet, time for more study.  The timeless (-t)
>  | reflection back to the source point always seemed like a fun
>  | way to Zap the Zappers.... :-)
>  | .
>  | .
>  | .
>  |      Ok I've went and dug up Physics Today/April 1981
>  | "Applications of optical phase conjugation" by Concetto R.
>  | Guiliano [Has excellent references listed at the end for any
>  | one thats interested].  Am I correct in assuming that the
>  | MRA is acting as the pilot/reference path, and that Aether is
>  | acting as the conjugator/source?  Still feel I'm missing a
>  | connection here, I'll go dig out Beardon's books....
>  |
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> On 4/9/2018 6:09 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mick,
>>
>> "I think Hector claimed to use a capacitor with one of these and get 
>> it to keep ringing after removing the battery to start it.  I am not 
>> sure how this could be accomplished unless he was using some energy 
>> coming from the ground."
>> I see two possibilities for any excess energy. The high voltage spike 
>> could drag energy from the ground. The Testatika in Methernitha 
>> Linden sorted the charges of the air and used them as an energy 
>> source. Another possibility is the parametric change of the 
>> inductance of the coil. Each time the armature moves away from the 
>> coil core the inductance of the coil decreases. This represents more 
>> energy being added by increasing the current. But energy has to be 
>> added to pull in the armature in the first place. Perhaps some clever 
>> timing can do the trick by storing energy in the coil a little while 
>> after the armature has closed the magnetic circuit. Then when the 
>> coil is fully magnetized the magnetic circuit is opened while 
>> extracting the current at impedance match for best power transfer.
>>
>> I have thought of such an experiment for years. The timing will have 
>> to be made variable as it has to fit the changing inductance of the 
>> coil. The timing also must be out of phase with the armature. I see 
>> this principle as a possible energy source in the Hendershot device. 
>> Another possible energy source in that device could be mixing the 
>> magnetic fields in the transformers.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ole
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>
>> Ole,
>>
>> Thanks for the explanation, really explicit.
>>
>> I think Hector claimed to use a capacitor with one of these and get 
>> it to keep ringing after removing the battery to start it.  I am not 
>> sure how this could be accomplished unless he was using some energy 
>> coming from the ground.
>>
>>
>> On 4/8/2018 5:54 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>     The energy isn't OU but the voltage is being transformed.
>>>
>>>     The high voltage is the flyback voltage (inductive kick back)
>>>     generated when trying to break the current through a coil. A
>>>     buzzer is actually a relay wired to power itself through a
>>>     normally closed contact.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Source of animation: https://wiki2.org/en/Electric_bell
>>>
>>>     The inside of a buzzer:
>>>     [Click to Close]
>>>     Source of image:
>>>     http://www.electrachime.net/resonator-door-chimes/confused-buzzer/
>>>
>>>     The next image shows the inductive flyback voltage formed when
>>>     disrupting the current through an inductor:
>>>
>>>     /Inductive kickback: (a) Switch open. (b) Switch closed,
>>>     electron current flows from battery through coil which has
>>>     polarity matching battery. Magnetic field stores energy. (c)
>>>     Switch open, Current still flows in coil due to collapsing
>>>     magnetic field. Note polarity change on coil. (d) Coil voltage
>>>     vs time.
>>>     Source of the above image and text:
>>>     https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/semiconductors/chpt-3/inductor-commutating-circuits/
>>>
>>>     /When putting a low impedance like a diode across the inductor
>>>     the flyback voltage is limited to the forward conduction voltage
>>>     of the diode (voltage level d to the right). If putting a
>>>     resistor in parallel to the coil the induced voltage is limited
>>>     to the resistance multiplied by the current at cut off which is
>>>     the voltage level (e)..
>>>     /
>>>     /
>>>     When opening the switch without any snubber circuit the voltage
>>>     is limited only by the breakdown voltage of the switch and the
>>>     parasitic capacitance between the turns of the coil. This makes
>>>     a door bell or a buzzer or a simple relay kick back.
>>>
>>>     Because the inductive spike happens fast a wire hasn't got low
>>>     enough impedance to short the spike. A wire connected to earth
>>>     has too high inductance to short the spike which just follows
>>>     the wire. EMC rules applies to dampen such spikes. This requires
>>>     guiding the spike to some resistance that can dissipate the
>>>     energy as heat or store the energy in a capacitor. For best
>>>     result the snubber has to be placed close to the EMP source.
>>>     This would be close to the coil by using short wires. If the
>>>     snubber is placed across the switch the wires between the switch
>>>     and the coil will radiate the spike through space because of the
>>>     loop area formed. Any loops are to be avoided as they form coils
>>>     of one turn. Remove loops by twisting the wires.
>>>
>>>     A coil carrying current acts like a current source when the
>>>     circuit is opened. The current always declines from the value it
>>>     has during breaking the circuit. The voltage will adjust
>>>     according to the impedance of the load and of course also to the
>>>     parasitic capacitance of the coil.
>>>
>>>     Regards
>>>     Ole
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>     Subject: 	Re: [EVGRAY] buzzer OU
>>>     Date: 	Sat, 7 Apr 2018 16:40:53 -0500
>>>     From: 	Norman Wootan <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>     To: 	[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Back in the day (70s) W.W. Grainger sold these Lungren mouse
>>>     trap buzzers in 6 or 12 VDC!   Measured over 1,000 violts from
>>>     these guys from frame ground side.  Knock the crap out of you if
>>>     you were earth grounded and held the buzzer while ir was powered
>>>     up with 6VDC input!
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 4/7/2018 2:54 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>>         Norm,
>>>>
>>>>         I found an old buzzer from the 70's in a box of junk.  What
>>>>         did you used
>>>>         to do with these to study neutral spikes?
>>>>
>>>>         Were you ever able to get one to ring continuously with the
>>>>         right
>>>>         capacitor and no other input besides momentary one?
>>>>
>>>
>>
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