Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] buzzer OU

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Norman Wootan <[email protected]>

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Ole!  You have a wonderful ability and knowledge to provide explanations 
of conventional electronic theory and applications. BUT, some how fail 
to grasp what Hector and I have been trying to get across, NEUTRAL SPIKE 
ENERGY.  Since back in 1899, (page 25 Colorado Springs Notes) Tesla 
clearly outlined just how to get an earth response to unidirectional 
pulses. Simplicity from day one! The source of the energy spike is from 
the ground and that needs to be addressed.  My Ludgren buzzer 
experiments point out just how this earth response works. OK!  Take the 
buzzer along with the 6VDC power supply(battery)  ( when switch closed) 
is a closed loop.  Negative side of battery is grounded to buzzer frame 
ground side of circuit.  Being sure that you have no body contact with 
earth ground, hold the buzzer in your hand and energize and you will 
feel nothing (famous Bird on the Wire) because you are part of the 
isolated circuit path as buzzer  makes and breaks and produces the 
inductive kick (conventional electronics). Now ground your body to an 
earth ground contact and repeat experiment holding the metal frame of 
the buzzer and you will get the Penny winking crap knocked out of you!  
As hector and I have pointed out so many times, the Neutral Spike Energy 
comes from the earth ground source just as Mr. Tesla tried to convey, 
way back in 1899.   If a circuit with an inductor and capacitance is 
energized and electrical energy is stored in said circuit via 
magnetically saturated inductor and charged capacitor, (totally isolated 
from earth ground) that energy simply cannot be destroyed or lost. It 
changes form into what has been proven in Physics labs, a case of Anti 
Parallel Magnetic flux Annihilation.  In space, this phenomenon has been 
studies in the solar storms which produce the EMP burst that traverse 
space.  In the lab, we can duplicate this phenomenon, which when the 
exactly right X-L / X-C match, we get the earth response from the Anti 
Parallel Flux Annihilation.  I call it an Aetheric event and does not 
comply to conventional electronics theory.  If you want to call it Cold 
Electricity, be my guest.  BTW!!!  When a magnetic field collapses in a 
saturated inductor, assisted by a capacitor discharge (polarity) 
(Magneto-Electric Effect) we see a straight down line on the scope 
(compression of energy in time) due to the fact that the LENZ effect 
does not apply (mutual inductance).  All of my lab bench experiments 
have proven to me that all of this is real and easily replicated and can 
be seen by all of you.  Please go on-line and research Flux Annihilation 
and resulting EMP.

https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#12    Please read and 
understand that Tesla showed you how to use a small plasma tube way back 
in 1899 to get this effect!


Message 8171                                   DATE/TIME: 08/29/94 10:42
From   : JOEL MCCLAIN
To     : ALL
Subject: Energy
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One of the keys to understanding ZPE is to first obtain an accurate
definition of "ordinary" energy.  Just as there are many types of
matter, there are many types of energy, or are there?  If matter does
consist of concentrated energy, and particle physics does tend to
support this assumption, then does the type of energy affect the type
of matter which is created?  Are solids, liquids, gases and plasmas
the end result of, for example, stress, heat, magnetism and electric
energies?  If all of the forms of matter are based upon the classic
chart of the elements, and hydrogen in a fusion reaction creates
these elements, then what energy creates the fusion?  Is this energy
of necessity hot, since "cold fusion" research is well funded and
ongoing even today?  Will the matter created by cold fusion be, in
reality, antimatter relative to the matter created by hot fusion,
like energies that are out of phase?

In researching ZPE, we often see anomalous results which defy logical
explanation, because our current understanding does not include the
definitions of these events.  It's like discovering an all new color,
and trying to describe it, when it is nothing like the colors that we
know.  Russell could envision the opposing vortical energy flows on
an enormous level, creating galaxies at the vortical junction. This
revelation "hit" him after being struck by lightning, and after his
family thought that he had lost his sanity.  And yet, he used Tesla
coils in opposing phase with a third coil, and created a validated
ZPE generator.  His chart of the elements is resonance based, and
conforms to the music scale of notes, which conforms to PHI, the
Golden Ratio, which conforms to pyramid geometry.  That is why I have
said that a pyramid is a Tesla coil made of rock.

All of this conforms to the MAGIC_T, which is used today for radar
and other microwave energy.  But what IS energy?  Is there more than
one type, or just variations on a theme?  Part of the answer may be
found in the fact that both the Egyptians and the Mescalero Apaches
worshipped AMMON RA (the sun), as their supreme "creator".  This has
always been considered VERY SECRET by the Apache, who will not speak
his name out loud, except in special ceremonies, for fear of invoking
his wrath.  Somewhere on this planet, at some time, there were those
who KNEW the definition of energy...the "father" energy that creates
or makes possible all of the other lesser energies.  They gave AMMON
RA and pyramid technology to tribes all over the world, in the hope
that we might understand.

Logic demands that a definition of anything includes the SOURCE of
that thing, and that is where traditional physics is lacking. Energy
cannot be created or destroyed, so then, what is the source of the
current energy?  What was the source of the source, and where did the
hydrogen clouds come from, anyway?  On a more philosophical note, how
many more generations of humans will be condemned to starvation, war,
servitude and sickness, because we can't answer that one question?

Please share your thoughts on this.  With the answer to one question,
all else will be possible.  What is energy?
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Message 10354                                  DATE/TIME: 01/03/95 06:51
From   : BOB PADDOCK                        -- RECEIVED --
To     : JOEL MCCLAIN
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  |
  | JM> Mhos...hmmm...well, per the books, it was the closest thing I
could
  | JM> find to describe the effect...ok, I'll call it by it's proper
name:
  | JM> "energy density and energy transport in bidirectional EM wave
flux to
  | JM> create massless displacement current via hidden channel
(Whittaker
  | JM> Field) phase conjugate pumping"
  |
  |      I think I get it now(?).  By your use of the term
  | Mhos, I think you are implying Negative Resistance (Negative
  | power creation), which is entirely different than
  | Conductance (measured in the units Mhos).
  |
  |      Some times my "education" gets in the way the Mhos
  | being a case in point.  Can we come up with a term for
  | Negative Resistance, and Negative Power, and avoid the use
  | of Mhos so as not to confuse others?  Also "Displacement
  | Current" has a text book meaning and a "Free Energy" meaning
  | what do we do there?
  |
  |      Tunnel Didoes exhibit Negative Resistance.  Lambda
  | Diodes also do too.  Tunnel Didoes are expensive these days
  | ($50+).  But you can make a Lambda Diode out of back to back
  | P and N JFETs, connect all like leads together (gate to gate
  | ect).  Also the "Black Hole Antenna" work of Sutton, where
  | he synthesizes -L/-R/-C.  The problem here is that none of
  | these really have much to do with Free Energy.  So where
  | does that leave us?
  |
  |      I've read Whittakers papers, but the math in them is
  | far beyond my abilities today.  What I got out of them was
  | that Whittaker showed than any Hertzen Wave (Transverse
  | Vector Wave) could be broken down into its component Scaler
  | Waves. How does this relate to the MRA?
  |
  |      I've never quite "Got It" with the phase conjugate
  | pumping stuff yet, time for more study.  The timeless (-t)
  | reflection back to the source point always seemed like a fun
  | way to Zap the Zappers.... :-)
  | .
  | .
  | .
  |      Ok I've went and dug up Physics Today/April 1981
  | "Applications of optical phase conjugation" by Concetto R.
  | Guiliano [Has excellent references listed at the end for any
  | one thats interested].  Am I correct in assuming that the
  | MRA is acting as the pilot/reference path, and that Aether is
  | acting as the conjugator/source?  Still feel I'm missing a
  | connection here, I'll go dig out Beardon's books....
  |
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On 4/9/2018 6:09 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Mick,
>
> "I think Hector claimed to use a capacitor with one of these and get 
> it to keep ringing after removing the battery to start it.  I am not 
> sure how this could be accomplished unless he was using some energy 
> coming from the ground."
> I see two possibilities for any excess energy. The high voltage spike 
> could drag energy from the ground. The Testatika in Methernitha Linden 
> sorted the charges of the air and used them as an energy source. 
> Another possibility is the parametric change of the inductance of the 
> coil. Each time the armature moves away from the coil core the 
> inductance of the coil decreases. This represents more energy being 
> added by increasing the current. But energy has to be added to pull in 
> the armature in the first place. Perhaps some clever timing can do the 
> trick by storing energy in the coil a little while after the armature 
> has closed the magnetic circuit. Then when the coil is fully 
> magnetized the magnetic circuit is opened while extracting the current 
> at impedance match for best power transfer.
>
> I have thought of such an experiment for years. The timing will have 
> to be made variable as it has to fit the changing inductance of the 
> coil. The timing also must be out of phase with the armature. I see 
> this principle as a possible energy source in the Hendershot device. 
> Another possible energy source in that device could be mixing the 
> magnetic fields in the transformers.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
> Ole,
>
> Thanks for the explanation, really explicit.
>
> I think Hector claimed to use a capacitor with one of these and get it 
> to keep ringing after removing the battery to start it.  I am not sure 
> how this could be accomplished unless he was using some energy coming 
> from the ground.
>
>
> On 4/8/2018 5:54 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>     The energy isn't OU but the voltage is being transformed.
>>
>>     The high voltage is the flyback voltage (inductive kick back)
>>     generated when trying to break the current through a coil. A
>>     buzzer is actually a relay wired to power itself through a
>>     normally closed contact.
>>
>>
>>     Source of animation: https://wiki2.org/en/Electric_bell
>>
>>     The inside of a buzzer:
>>     [Click to Close]
>>     Source of image:
>>     http://www.electrachime.net/resonator-door-chimes/confused-buzzer/
>>
>>     The next image shows the inductive flyback voltage formed when
>>     disrupting the current through an inductor:
>>
>>     /Inductive kickback: (a) Switch open. (b) Switch closed, electron
>>     current flows from battery through coil which has polarity
>>     matching battery. Magnetic field stores energy. (c) Switch open,
>>     Current still flows in coil due to collapsing magnetic field.
>>     Note polarity change on coil. (d) Coil voltage vs time.
>>     Source of the above image and text:
>>     https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/semiconductors/chpt-3/inductor-commutating-circuits/
>>
>>     /When putting a low impedance like a diode across the inductor
>>     the flyback voltage is limited to the forward conduction voltage
>>     of the diode (voltage level d to the right). If putting a
>>     resistor in parallel to the coil the induced voltage is limited
>>     to the resistance multiplied by the current at cut off which is
>>     the voltage level (e)..
>>     /
>>     /
>>     When opening the switch without any snubber circuit the voltage
>>     is limited only by the breakdown voltage of the switch and the
>>     parasitic capacitance between the turns of the coil. This makes a
>>     door bell or a buzzer or a simple relay kick back.
>>
>>     Because the inductive spike happens fast a wire hasn't got low
>>     enough impedance to short the spike. A wire connected to earth
>>     has too high inductance to short the spike which just follows the
>>     wire. EMC rules applies to dampen such spikes. This requires
>>     guiding the spike to some resistance that can dissipate the
>>     energy as heat or store the energy in a capacitor. For best
>>     result the snubber has to be placed close to the EMP source. This
>>     would be close to the coil by using short wires. If the snubber
>>     is placed across the switch the wires between the switch and the
>>     coil will radiate the spike through space because of the loop
>>     area formed. Any loops are to be avoided as they form coils of
>>     one turn. Remove loops by twisting the wires.
>>
>>     A coil carrying current acts like a current source when the
>>     circuit is opened. The current always declines from the value it
>>     has during breaking the circuit. The voltage will adjust
>>     according to the impedance of the load and of course also to the
>>     parasitic capacitance of the coil.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>     Subject: 	Re: [EVGRAY] buzzer OU
>>     Date: 	Sat, 7 Apr 2018 16:40:53 -0500
>>     From: 	Norman Wootan <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>     To: 	[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Back in the day (70s) W.W. Grainger sold these Lungren mouse trap
>>     buzzers in 6 or 12 VDC!   Measured over 1,000 violts from these
>>     guys from frame ground side.  Knock the crap out of you if you
>>     were earth grounded and held the buzzer while ir was powered up
>>     with 6VDC input!
>>
>>
>>     On 4/7/2018 2:54 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>         Norm,
>>>
>>>         I found an old buzzer from the 70's in a box of junk.  What
>>>         did you used
>>>         to do with these to study neutral spikes?
>>>
>>>         Were you ever able to get one to ring continuously with the
>>>         right
>>>         capacitor and no other input besides momentary one?
>>>
>>
>
>

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