Re: AW: Re: [EVGRAY] Sven, this is old style 3 pole magneto coils for Outboard Marine outboards!

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2018-03-20T08:32:36-05:00
Norman Wootan <[email protected]>

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I stated that the "condenser" value was .026mfd "NOT" .026uf


On 3/19/2018 9:22 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> The output can be designed to fit whatever voltage and current (and 
> power) that is needed. Of course some physical limits exist depending 
> on how good materials are available. Less capacitance gives higher 
> impedance which means higher voltage and power but lasting for a 
> shorter period of time. This is with the initial magnetic energy held 
> constant. The flyback pulse is a half period of a full oscillation.
>
> Here are some values of the inductance of the primary coil depending 
> on how long the cycle time is with a 26nF = .026uF capacitor:
>
> The length of the arc can give a clue of the output voltage. But then 
> we have to know the windings ratio between the primary and secondary 
> coils to be able to calculate the inductance of the coils.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> At the time that I worked on these "beast",(1956-63) I did not have a 
> LCR meter!   For $17 bucks on EBay you can buy one and measure it!
>
>
> On 3/19/2018 8:02 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>     Hi Norman,
>>
>>     At least one more parameter is needed for such a calculation. If
>>     knowing the capacitance and the time of the pulse or perhaps the
>>     energy of the pulse the inductance can be calculated.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>>     The .026 mfd condenser was a perfect "L/C" match so do your math
>>     and solve the impedance of the iron core coil!
>>
>>
>>     On 3/19/2018 7:12 PM, 'S.friedrich' s.friedrich@...
>>     <mailto:s.friedrich@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>         Hello Norm, that means this vote could not reach with any
>>>         other LC!?!. For me that seems to be an ignition coil with
>>>         breaker contact like the old Vw beetle. But this capacitor
>>>         is very small, how big was the inductance of the coil in Henry?
>>>
>>>
>>>         Von Samsung Mobile gesendet
>>>
>>>
>>>         -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>         Von: "Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]"
>>>         Datum:20.03.2018 01:02 (GMT+01:00)
>>>         An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>         Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Sven, this is old style 3 pole magneto
>>>         coils for Outboard Marine outboards!
>>>
>>>         Sven, this 3 pole coil design was used for many years by
>>>         Outboard Marine Corp 40s up to the 70s in the two cylinder
>>>         magnetos.  I had a magneto test bench where I could
>>>         experiment with the careful timing adjustments of the
>>>         breaker points (before breakerless solid state
>>>         commutation).  by careful adjustment of breaker gap/timing
>>>         you could get magneto operating at peak of resonant curve in
>>>         the "Ultra high Q" region!  At idle, (300 RPM) a very well
>>>         tuned magneto of this design would yield a good one inch
>>>         bright blue arc.  The condenser for this type of coil was
>>>         .026mfd which was a "perfect match" to the impedance of the
>>>         iron core coil.  I had various values of condensers
>>>         (capacitors) but only the proper value would yield maximum
>>>         performance!
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 3/19/2018 6:02 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>         https://m.ebay.com/itm/Ignition-Coil-for-Some-Early-Model-Johnson-Evinrude-2-Cylinder-Replaces-584477-/220888888795
>>>>
>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>>>
>>
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