Re: [EVGRAY] Fw: Hal Puthoff

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Norm,

Did you ever try to power a plasma globe with the Tesla fire? 
I am curious concerning the legendary directional rays of light.

I use vacuum tubes for audio and have a feeling they are moving an
energy sand does not, it's more than hearing.  I don't know if this is
just a factor of super clean electrons with no holes and nothing to run
into or something else.

The magnetoelectric effect, did you find a way to store this in cap
banks, or does it to be fractioned first in some way?

Another problem with this Yahoo space is stuff disappears as it is a
poor repository.

I would love to learn more about this effect and how one might be able
to take advantage of it without getting hurt.  I have searched for this
and can find only one text file called Norman Ferroresonance.

The main reason people are cycling over the same thing here is that the
guru's here are teaching these modalities.  There is so much bullshit
out there that it is a preference to put ones time into something that
is not a dead end and has people still living that can provide insight. 
There are very few who have had the time or inclination to build
original Tesla designs and have that extra foot up in insight.



On 3/17/2018 2:42 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> See interspersed comments!
>
>
> On 3/17/2018 1:17 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Hi Norm,
>>
>> We started a conversation a few months back concerning the two
>> systems you were privy to in chasing Tesla fire.  The experiment of
>> your friend with the ignition coil magnets and fluorescent tubes and
>> your magnetically quenched spark gap.
>>
>> Can you elaborate on the final effects of the results and what you
>> derived playing with the resulting energies?
>>
> The Crane Cams ignition power packs, magnets and tubes were for Ken
> Hawkin's work with the Herkimer diamonds ( double pointed quartz
> crystals) treating and matching them to provide a communications pathway.
>
> My Tesla fire experiment was based on his disruptive transformer
> (built exact) outputting 60KVDC "unidirectional DC discharge"
> absolutely no ring down! Used a super powerful magnetic horn gap.
> brilliant white fire which Tesla himself described and the stinging
> effects in the room. I had a 200kv X-ray power supply with variac to
> reduce output down to 60kv. I had tons of HV rectifiers since I was
> wrecking down X-ray equipment from the medical facilities and
> hospitals. Ken was working with the diamonds along with Dr. Milewski &
> Paul Walker.   I just experimented with the beautiful white brush
> discharges called "Tesla Fire".   No practical application on my
> part!  Just curiosity!
>>
>> In response to your response.  Not everyone is beating on hollow logs,
>>
> I brought this up cause my being on this site since Doug initially set
> it up, I see a continuous "recycling" of the same tried and failed
> experiments. You are all over 21 and free to experiment with anything
> you desire! I would like to see an interest in something in a new
> approach.
>>
>> Sven is beating on a big transformer trying to overcome burning out
>> devices in order to harness and harvest the ferroresonant effect.  
>> He could use some help shutting off his SCR's but the language is a
>> bit of a barrier.
>>
> After destroying boxes of solid state devices fooling with "Neutral
> Spike" recovery, I went back to the old tried and tested vacuum tube
> approach.  "Tougher than an anvil"!   I had lots of Thyratrons.  Boat
> loads of really big IGBTs which proved to be useless around "spike"
> energy.
>>
>>  I know at least in my case there is an ego block when one works hard
>> on a difficult problem and comes to an epiphany as the remedy is hard
>> won giving away the results demands a tenacious process.  This being
>> one is looking for the worthiness of the requester, has he or she
>> come to the question by way of experiments worthy of a solid answer. 
>> I don't disagree with merit based assessment however, how many fine
>> inventions or scientific discovery are lost due to the ego? 
>> I don't know a good answer to this dilemma but feel much of the great
>> work people like you have done may be lost to humanity in 20 or 30 years.
>>
> Of all the various experimentation, the "Magneto Electric Effect",
> which is the "Neutral Spike" shows the most lucrative promise.    You
> have to see the effects to believe it!  When you see it, you will come
> away in disbelief!! "Huge destructive power" carried over very small
> wires that don't even get hot. Really weird effects.  Brilliant
> "green" flash discharges.  I have read all available on this type of
> electricity and its effects, if we could find a way to capture and
> store it. I had a folder on here captioned "Ferroresonance Capture"! 
> At "targeted resonance" there is a 10X multiplication of voltage &
> current. Hector has worked on this also!
>
>
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 8:22 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Steve!  BTW! the big thing we are seeing a lot of is "wireless
>>> electricity" via "nano crystal" technology.  Based on our work with
>>> the MRA, I would say to watch this very carefully cause we got into
>>> "exotic communications" (highly discrete) by using quartz crystals
>>> that "talked to one another"!  Just hide and watch!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/17/2018 10:17 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank You! Steve. Yes! There is a lot that "is known" and Hector &
>>>> I have shared a lot "tongue in cheek" to this group and the
>>>> response is always a "return to beating on hollow logs with clubs"!
>>>> We can show you the "path" to tapping that "magneto electric
>>>> phenomenon", a form of electricity "inverse" to convention but you
>>>> will not experiment with what is given to you.  Classic example,
>>>> given by Hector and I is the "classic Coil Banger"!  Hector and I
>>>> call it "Neutral Spike" which is an earth response to being
>>>> "tweaked" with unidirectional (DC) pulses.  I posted the 1899,
>>>> Tesla experiments with Telegraphy, Page 25 of the Colorado Springs
>>>> Notes.  Tesla layed out a simple explanation as to how his big coil
>>>> was to operate at Warden Cliff after his work in Colorado which was
>>>> a verification of his theory. (wireless power transmission). I just
>>>> posted again articles on the ferroresonance phenomenon which
>>>> through (targeted resonance) you get a magnification of 10X
>>>> current  and voltage which can be captured.  Instead, engineers
>>>> "Mitigate" by use of techniques to prevent!!  Almost all power
>>>> driver modules have "spike supression" snubber diodes for self
>>>> preservation.  "Kone" discussion.  Look at Power MOSFETs and IGBTs
>>>> and see in the schematics the snubber diodes built in which "shunts
>>>> to ground" the spike energy you guys are trying to use! "Duh"!  We
>>>> built the MRA and shared to the whole world a method of creating
>>>> O/U performance via highly tuned resonance (ultra high Q) which
>>>> Hector verified as being the  key operating point when dealing with
>>>> resonant circuits.  The form of electricity, again I will say is a
>>>> little foreign to the experimenter.  Sparky Sweet stated the very
>>>> same findings with his "Sweet VTA".  Please study very carefully
>>>> the depictions taken from page 25 of the Colorado Springs Notes
>>>> where Tesla showed you how to pulse the earth with as little as
>>>> .025A or 25 milliamps a DC unidirectional pulse that can be
>>>> received anywhere on earth.  Very subtle explanation that goes over
>>>> everyone's head like a 747 flying at 45.000 ft.   A lot of what you
>>>> are seeking is right in front of you and has been pointed out before.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/15/2018 8:38 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Norman
>>>>>  I have always thought that there was more that you could tell Us
>>>>> but for some reason You are holding back information that Mankind
>>>>> could use for our benefit,( I understand there are things that
>>>>> People have worked with in Gov that they do not and can not talk
>>>>> about)I feel like you give us a little info with the links you
>>>>> hand out .I have a friend that was Friends with Colonel James
>>>>> Woods and he disclosed some things to me that was never news or
>>>>> talked about We do not hear of in the News.I thank you for your
>>>>> service
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]>; Bert Pool
>>>>> <[email protected]>; Joel McClain <[email protected]>;
>>>>> Norman Wootan <[email protected]>; Lane Wootan
>>>>> <[email protected]>; Pre Mbold <[email protected]>; Jon Gentry
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Thu, Mar 15, 2018 7:51 am
>>>>> Subject: [EVGRAY] Fw: Hal Puthoff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>     ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>>>>     *From:* "Boyd Bland" <[email protected]
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>>>>>     *To:* "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>"
>>>>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>     *Cc:*
>>>>>     *Sent:* Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:03 AM
>>>>>     *Subject:* Hal Puthoff
>>>>>     *
>>>>>     *Ran across this article that mentions Hal Puthoff.  Thought
>>>>>     I'd send it to you for your thoughts on it.  Let me know what
>>>>>     you think.*
>>>>>     *Boyd*
>>>>>
>>>>>     *
>>>>>     *
>>>>>     *
>>>>>     *
>>>>>     *
>>>>>     *
>>>>>     *
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>>>>>
>>>>>     *Jon Rappoport: 'Head of secret Pentagon program says UFOs can
>>>>>     “warp space-time”—what?'*
>>>>>     *Posted By: hobie [Send E-Mail
>>>>>     <http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?bem=95280>]
>>>>>     Date: Monday, 12-Mar-2018 23:28:48*
>>>>>
>>>>>             =====
>>>>>             https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2018/03/12/head-of-secret-pentagon-program-says-ufos-can-warp-space-time-what/
>>>>>             Head of secret Pentagon program says UFOs can “warp
>>>>>             space-time”—what?
>>>>>
>>>>>             by Jon Rappoport
>>>>>
>>>>>             March 12, 2018
>>>>>
>>>>>             Luis Elizondo, former head of a secret Pentagon
>>>>>             program studying UFOs, is now extending his recent
>>>>>             remarks about craft witnessed in our skies…
>>>>>
>>>>>             In an interview with the UK Daily Star (2/8)
>>>>>             <https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/680562/Alien-UFOs-Luis-Elizondo-Pentagon-program-AATIP>,
>>>>>             Elizondo made the following boggling comments:
>>>>>
>>>>>             “For the first time, we have a compelling picture that
>>>>>             what we are seeing is explained in our current
>>>>>             understanding of physics, advanced physics, and
>>>>>             quantum mechanics.”
>>>>>
>>>>>             “We do believe all these observables we’ve been
>>>>>             seeing, sudden and extreme [UFO] acceleration,
>>>>>             hypersonic velocities, low observability, trans medium
>>>>>             travel, and last but not least, positive lift,
>>>>>             anti-gravity – is really the manifestation of a single
>>>>>             technology.”
>>>>>
>>>>>             “So it’s not five exotic technologies we’re trying to
>>>>>             figure out, it’s one, and we think we know that one too.”
>>>>>
>>>>>             “We believe it has to do with a high amount of energy
>>>>>             and the ability to warp space-time, not by a lot, but
>>>>>             by a little.”
>>>>>
>>>>>             The Sun also obtained a comment from Elizondo’s
>>>>>             colleague, physicist Hal Puthoff: “Puthoff came to the
>>>>>             conclusion that the [UFO] craft can effectively create
>>>>>             their own time-space bubble, which allows them to fly
>>>>>             at such incredible speeds.”
>>>>>
>>>>>             My, my.
>>>>>
>>>>>             A space-time bubble? Warping space-time?
>>>>>
>>>>>             Elizondo claims such stunning capacities can be
>>>>>             understood by Earth physics—but at what level?
>>>>>             Speculative? Conceptual? Or in a way that would allow
>>>>>             American engineers to build their own craft capable of
>>>>>             performing staggering feats and maneuvers? It’s easy
>>>>>             to say, “We understand this,” when no assembly is
>>>>>             required and you just spin hypotheses. I can come up
>>>>>             with a hypothesis which explains how multi-ton stones
>>>>>             were transported up a mountain road, centuries ago in
>>>>>             Peru, and fitted together perfectly, with primitive
>>>>>             technology—as long as I don’t actually have to
>>>>>             replicate the feat now, using ancient means. I can
>>>>>             blow that kind of smoke.
>>>>>
>>>>>             As I’ve discussed in several previous articles,
>>>>>             Elizondo (a former intelligence officer who ran
>>>>>             clandestine operations in Latin America), and a host
>>>>>             of other former Pentagon and CIA players, are now
>>>>>             attached to rock musician Tom DeLonge and his
>>>>>             fledgling To the Stars Academy.
>>>>>
>>>>>             This odd marriage raises questions. For example, are
>>>>>             the high-level players using DeLonge to disseminate
>>>>>             the UFO story as a THREAT-FROM-SPACE SCENARIO,
>>>>>             requiring gigantic new sums of money to build defenses
>>>>>             against extra-terrestrial attacks?
>>>>>
>>>>>             The Pentagon-CIA nexus has always positioned “UFO
>>>>>             disclosure” in those terms. “We have a battle to
>>>>>             fight, and we must prepare ourselves against potential
>>>>>             alien forces. Give us more money.”
>>>>>
>>>>>             Elizondo has now doubled down. He’s claiming
>>>>>             scientists understand how UFOs do what they do.
>>>>>
>>>>>             Let’s see some evidence.
>>>>>
>>>>>             Not just concepts and abstract equations, but
>>>>>             hardware—located, perhaps, at the famed and walled-off
>>>>>             Lockheed Skunk Works in Palmdale, California.
>>>>>
>>>>>             Or is Elizondo merely passing along
>>>>>             sensational-sounding “information,” designed to rope
>>>>>             in a new generation of UFO enthusiasts, and lead them
>>>>>             to accept a “threat-from-space” story?
>>>>>
>>>>>             Is the “warp” really about a space-drive, or is it
>>>>>             about Elizondo’s distortion of facts?
>>>>>
>>>>>             ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>             ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>             Jon Rappoport
>>>>>
>>>>>             The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX
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>>>>>             FROM THE MATRIX
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>>>>>             <http://marketplace..mybigcommerce.com/power-outside-the-matrix/>,
>>>>>             Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the
>>>>>             29^th  District of California. He maintains a
>>>>>             consulting practice for private clients, the purpose
>>>>>             of which is the expansion of personal creative power.
>>>>>             Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an
>>>>>             investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles
>>>>>             on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch,
>>>>>             LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers
>>>>>             and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered
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>>>>>             <http://j.mp/1SfPuzL>.
>>>>>             **************************************************************
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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