Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!

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Warren,
I thought that people might see that the bible supports a flat earth, but I guess ball earthers won't pay much attention to the bible.
If the earth is a sphere and is spinning around the sun, then we should really get rid of the bible.
No experiment has ever been performedwith such excruciating persistence and meticulous precision, and inevery conceivable manner, than that of trying to detect and measurethe motion of the Earth.
Yet they have all consistently andcontinually yielded a velocity for the Earth of exactly ZERO mph. Thetoil of thousands of exasperated researchers, in the extremely variedexperiments of Arago, De Coudre's induction, Fizeau, Fresnell drag,Hoek, Jaseja's lasers, Jenkins, Klinkerfuess, Michelson-Morleyinterferometry, Lord Rayleigh's polarimetry, Troughton-Noble torque,and the famous 'Airy's Failure' experiment, all conclusively failedto show any rotational or translational movement for the earth,whatsoever.
Some of these did of coursedemonstrate the existence of the ether and ether drag. In otherwords, every experiment formulated, devised, constructed, conductedand repeated by every empirical scientist in human history that hasattempted to objectively confirm the empirical premises underlyingthe Copernican Heliocentric model, to wit: that the earth is rotatingon its own axis at approximately 1037+ plus miles and hour (at theequator) and that the earth is orbiting the sun at the alleged speedof approximately 67,000 mph has come up with an absolutely nullresult…it has been repeatedly, conclusively, empirically andirrefutably scientifically demonstrated tens of thousands of timesthat the earth simply does not move.
No legitimate scientificexperiment ever conducted has indicated otherwise. At this point thishas become firmly fixed, confirmed, indubitable and unquestionablyestablished (but utterly suppressed) peer reviewed science, despiteall of the absurd, groundless, irrational, pseudo-scientific, strictlyexternal reality free grossly theoretical attempts (with no externalreferences) to make this empirical truth, fact and reality “goaway”.
Since the earth is and has been conclusively proven to bemotionless, the Copernican Heliocentric model has been absolutely,conclusively and decisively refuted. People can ignore the unrefuted and irrefutable scientific evidence and dogmatically andclose-mindedly cling to the now utterly refuted and disprovenpseudo-scientific myth and religion of Copernican Heliocentristicscientism and evolutionism, walking in step with millions ofother intelligent but uninformed and deluded people if they wish, butknow that they do so despite all the relevant continually confirmed,repeated and repeatable scientific evidence and at the risk of theloss of any scientific and intellectual honesty, integrity andcredibility they may have once possessed.
 We have obediently accepted Astronomy through education indoctrination.  People's love of Space is programmed by books, TV shows and movies.  The concept of no Space is incomprehensible to them.
Then there is the fact that nobody can find the curvature that goes with a ball earth; the truth is that no matter how high they go they can't find the curvature unless a Go-Pro lens is used.

Many people have the pride of higher learning. They have their bachelor in physics and their masters and tell us not to talk about the flat earth.  They say that science proved the Earth is a sphere a long time ago.  We live in a heliocentric solar system.  Galileo observed four moons orbiting Saturn with his telescope in 1610.
They go on to say: "I don't need to look at flat earth proofs.  I know the earth is not flat.  All the scientists in the world know the earth is not flat.  If you had half a brain you would know the earth is not flat."
The truth is, it is very difficult to shake free from 16+ years of programming where they spent 12 years in school, 4 years in college, 2 years for masters and 8 years average for PhD.
After 16+ years of programming comes Pride, Accomplishment and Absolute Knowledge.  The danger of Pride and Absolute Knowledge is when they come across evidence that challenges their Absolute Knowledge, their Pride won't allow it.
George
      From: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2018, 3:23
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
   
    GeorgeThe bible is a document, that has evolved from a middle Eastern desert people who developed a writen language, and spread through Romans into Europe. For centuries it was a complete library, to many, of human knowledge. It was a source of entertainment, law, psychology, medical advice, philosophy, and ethical direction.It in turn was writen, and rewriten, by a whole series of people over the centuries. Depending on the author, wars were fought, thousands died and were tortured, over various versions of text. Vigilantes, sought to exterminate anybody with the wrong publication.
Literary critics took a harsh view of any writing they didn't like.Special attention was given to people who "heard voices" ,( as many creative types can be prone to.) These people were sure they were being told things by that voice in their heads.Rather than those funny little elves in orange hats, who carry very little status, why not ascribe those voices to God, who trumps all, and can't be readily cross examined, except by someone equally "gifted".The formation of family units where the father is the complete autocrat with dictatorial powers over his entire brood, spouse, and perhaps followers, even though, he may be exhibiting clear markers for mental illness, seems to be supported in numerous stories.In one story, the kid's bonkers old man is going to cut his son's throat, hearing a voice in his head telling him to do this.If your neighbour into doing this, a call to emergency services, child protection authorities, and mental health professionals, is in order, although response by police in body armour, tasers, and Glocks, might be more disturbing to the neighbourhood, leaving an even larger blood pool, then a mere severed neck artery of a little kid.Mind you those teenagers can be pretty pesky, and many parents might be sympathized with, resorting to the knife.Perhaps in some states, a lenient court might consider him legally insane, as opposed to murder #1, but that bible guy is going to have to buy some pretty expensive legal expertise, and will certainly do time in a secure mental institution.God to the rescue! Maybe a damn big lightening bolt blowing off the courthouse door, might do it.Charles Manson, and the Reverend Jim Jones, both made themselves (in)famous as cult leaders, and autocrats.The divine right of kings, that blessing by God, to lord over other people, because you, yes, you, have been specially chosen.In one Dunieden mental hospital in NZ, I heard from a nurse who worked there, thatthere were no less than 9 Jesus Christs. One can only speculate how the dialog between them might go.Don't throw your bible away, who knows, it might be great source material?Cheers Warren
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  On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 7:38 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       You called it a religion, must we throw out the bible as it confirms a flat earth.  Is that what you think we must do to believe in a ball earth, throw out the bible?

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George

      From: "John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: EVGRAY YahooGroups <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018, 23:35
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
  
    It has been.
And the south pole has been gone to many times.
And you cannot present to me one iota of evidence for a flat earth.  You will now, not something that can't be easily shown to be false.
Flat earth is a religion, it relies on faith and makes obnoxious attempts to convert people..
Also, scams do that too.
John Berry
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:52 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

     Lutz,
The earth has been circumnavigated east to west millions of times but not once has it been done north to south. Ask yourself WHY? Because it is impossible on the flat earth.George

      From: "Lutz Liebers [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Monday, 8 January 2018, 7:18
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] To the "Flat Earthers"!!
   
     Why do those flat earthers never show the underside of their flat earth? 
 This would prove how flat it is, really.
 
 But here comes the ultimate proof that the earth is flat - the pope cannot fail (by definition): 
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 Don't be mislead by the small airplane on top of the flat "urbi et orbi". 
 It just shows, who else is engaged in the NWO... 
 At least to me.
 
 That's not a fake coin, instead you can buy it:
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