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Thanks Ole, and Happy New Year mate.
George
From: "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, 1 January 2018, 1:07
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Some bible answers that may CLEAR some minds here ///
Hi George,
"If someone teaches that 2+2 = 5 and I find out that it only = 4, then I want to set the record straight."
That's the way it's done when using the scientific method. Always refine and question the results.
"Ask yourself, why would generations of scientists lie to everybody?"
True science wants the truth. When using lies it all becomes complicated. Some branches of science are a full of patches. Instead of using patches a better way is to start all over by using the knowledge acquired until now and make a new theory fit for the observations. A true scientist isn't just following the money but would do science by following the scientific method to seek out truth. It's a pity the financiers don't agree to seek out the truth. But a financier wants to get back the money put into some research project. The truth may prevent such a plan or spoil it for other big investments perhaps made by the same investor. One early example of this is Edison Tesla and J.P. Morgen. The medical health research and food industry have lots of that kind of conflicts.
Nobody seems to be able to prove that the Earth is flat. At least no proof if the proofs are put through the scientific method to see if they are true. If accepting false science we can prove that the Earth is cylinder shaped or cube shaped having flat sides. This requires lots of patches and some observations will have to be discarded. Doing that is not true science.
Regards
Ole
---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :
Mick,
If someone teaches that 2+2 = 5 and I find out that it only = 4, then I want to set the record straight.
Ask yourself, why would generations of scientists lie to everybody? Well those in the know, who are 33rd degree Masons and Jews, are in a conspiracy league against God. They lie about this Bible and gospel related subject.
The ball earth is a foundation for evolution and the Big Bang theory and this completely gets rid of God, the Creator.
The world is run by Satan the father of the lie, and his satanic elite, and their primary goal is to discredit and hide God, making us believe He doesn't exist and then to completely enslave mankind.
Without the ball earth lie, all of Satan's and his elite's deceptions are exposed and blown out of the water so to speak.
People are being herded along by the NWO to the point of no return, just as it was in Hitler's day, and if we don't wake people up now, it will suddenly be too late.
They plan to kill more than 7 billion people and keep 500 million dumbed-down people as their slaves.
Exposing the flat earth and the non moon landing and 9/11, and many other fake things is a way of waking people up and then we the people will have the power and the elite will be trying to find somewhere to hide.
The French revolution comes to mind.
Happy New Year mate!
George
From: "Mick mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, 30 December 2017, 10:48
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Some bible answers that may CLEAR some minds here ///
Hi George,Quite the response, some good research. Have not heard of thebook of Jasher for a long time.
Someone said never talk politics or religion if one desires to keepones friends.
Can't say I abide by that as coming from the sensationalist rockmusic world always enjoy posting a bit of the politically incorrectjust for fun and to always make a mockery of things provoked assacred by the borg collective.
Since finding out at the highest levels of science and governmentand justice most everything on the planet is just social engineeredpetrodollar nazipharma tripe I try to give everyone the benefit ofthe doubt.
So I shall inquire once more, after many people decide to agree theearth is flat then what?
Is this just to upset the apple cart or is there a long term plan orgoal or agenda?
On 12/29/2017 6:13 PM, george graycanowindracd@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
Hector,
Thanksfor your link to a religious point of view of theearth.
Letthe Bible tell you the real story, read the textsa few times ifnecessary until you understand themeaning.Forget your previous knowledge, and think onthese scriptures and askyourself:What is theBible really showing me concerning thenature of the heavens, theearth, the sun, moon and stars?Whatis the Bible telling me?
"Itis he who sits above the circleof the earth, and its inhabitants arelike grasshoppers; who stretchesout the heavens like a curtain, and spreadsthem like a tent to dwellin" Is. 40:22
Weall know that a circle is not a ball. In fact, theHebrew word used in this verse is "khoog"(pronouncedchug). The word literally means, circle,circuit, and compass.
Inall of these words, none of them bring up apicture of a ball.Furthermore if the earth were a ball, and Godwished to communicatethat here, then it would have required using theHebrew word "dure" (pronounced dur). TheHebrew definitionfor dure is, a circle, pile, or ball.
Ifthe shape of the earth was intended to beconveyed as a "ball"then theHebrew word"dure" would have been the word used asfound in Isaiah22:18, "He will surely violentlyturn and toss thee like a BALL into a largecountry: there shalt thoudie, and there the chariots of thy glory shallbe the shame of thylord's house."
Itwasn't used there, instead the Hebrew word"khoog." wasused. The flat earth depictions are exactlythat, of a circle not aball.
Anotherinteresting example from Scripture is found inJoshua 10 where Godcaused the"sun tostand still."
"Andthesun stoodstill, and the moon stopped, untilthe nation took vengeance on their enemies.Isthis not written in the Book of Jashar? Thesun stopped in the midst of heaven and didnot hurry to set for abouta whole day." - Joshua10:13
Ifthe sun is the centre of the universe and theearth is orbitingaround it, then for this event to occur, it wouldhave to have beenthe earth standing still, not the sun. However, ifthe earth is flatand the sun and moon rotate inside the firmamentor dome above us, itwould make perfect sense for the sun to standstill in order toprolong the day here, andnotice that the moon also stopped.
Boththe sun and the moon are inside our dome orfirmament in the midst ofheaven, over the flat earth.
RegardingThe Firmament of the heaven or the dome above us:And God said, Letthere be a firmament in the midst of the waters,and let it dividethe waters from the waters. - Genesis 1:6
AndGod said, Letthere be lights in the firmament of theheaven todivide the day from the night; and let them befor signs, and forseasons, and for days, and years. - Genesis1:14.
Isaiah13:9 says: Behold, the day of the LORD cometh,cruel both with wrathand fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and heshall destroy thesinners thereof out of it. Isaiah 13:10 says: Forthe stars of heaven and the constellationsthereof shall not givetheir light: the sun shall be darkened in hisgoing forth, and themoon shall not cause her light to shine.
Soit is clear that the sun gives his light and themoon gives her lightand the stars give their light and the lightfrom the moon is notreflected from the sun.
Whichalone spreadethout the heavens,and treadeth upon the waves of the sea. - Job 9:8
Hastthou with him spread out thesky, which is strong, and as a moltenlooking glass?- Job 37:18
Theheavens declare the glory of God; and thefirmament sheweth his handywork.- Psalms 19:1
Ofold hast thou laid the foundation of the earth:and the heavens arethe work of thy hands. - Psalms 102:25
Whocoverest thyself with light as with a garment: whostretchest out theheavens like a curtain. - Psalms 104:2
Thussaith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formedthee from the womb,I am the LORD that maketh all things; thatstretcheth forth theheavens alone; that spreadethabroad the earth by myself. -Isaiah 44:24
Ihave made the earth, and created man upon it: I,even my hands, havestretched out the heavens, and all their host haveI commanded. -Isaiah 45:12
Minehand also hath laid thefoundation of theearth, and my right hand hathspanned the heavens: when Icall unto them, they stand up together. - Isaiah48:13
Hehath made the earth by his power, he hathestablished the world byhis wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens byhis discretion. -Jeremiah 10:12
Theburden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saiththe LORD, whichstretcheth forth the heavens,and layeth thefoundation of the earth,and formeth the spirit of man within him. -Zechariah 12:1
Nowhere are some scriptures regarding The WatersAnd The Heaven ofHeavens Above:AndGod said, Let there be afirmamentin the midst of the waters, and let it divide thewaters from thewaters. - Genesis 1:6
Behold,the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD'sthy God, the earthalso, with all that therein is. - Deuteronomy10:14
Praisehim, ye heavens of heavens, and yewatersthat be above the heavens. - Psalms148:4
Forthis they willingly are ignorant of, that by theword of God theheavens were of old, and the earth standingout of the water and inthe water. - 2 Peter 3:5
ScripturesRegarding The Earth Being Immovable:Andthesun stoodstill, and the moon stayed,until the people had avenged themselves upontheir enemies. Is notthis written in the book of Jasher? So thesun stood still in the midst of heaven, andhasted not to go down about a whole day. -Joshua 10:13
Fearbefore him, all the earth: theworld also shall be stable, that it be notmoved. -1 Chronicles 16:30
TheLORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; theLORD is clothed withstrength, wherewith he hath girded himself: theworld also is established, that it cannot bemoved.- Psalms 93:1
Sayamong the heathen that the LORD reigneth: theworld also shall be established that itshall not be moved:he shall judge the people righteously. -Psalms 96:10
Wholaid thefoundations of the earth,thatitshould not be removed for ever.- Psalms 104:5
Behold,I will bring again the shadow of the degrees,which is gone down inthe sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So thesun returned ten degrees, by whichdegrees it was gonedown. - Isaiah 38:8
ScripturesRegarding The Flat Earth:Andupon Elam will I bring the four winds from thefour quarters ofheaven, and will scatter them toward all thosewinds; and there shallbe no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shallnot come. - Jeremiah49:36
Also,thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto theland of Israel; Anend, the end is come upon the four corners of theland. - Ezekiel 7:2
Thetree grew, and was strong, and the heightthereof reached untoheaven, and the sight thereof to the end of allthe earth. -Daniel 4:11
Itis he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth,and the inhabitantsthereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth outthe heavens as acurtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwellin. - Isaiah 40:22
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