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Ok George,
I understand your point, but we are all already "their" slaves because
we pay taxes by force which finance evil shit and evil people. In the
US over 50% of the population derives income from the government who
produce nothing so easy to see it's a ponzy scheme as it's unsustainable.
Every evening on the news they espouse the drivel right from Marx which
states victim hood and entitlement, he and Engels used different words
such as proletariat and bourgeois. In one part of South America where
people are proud to have a job and go to work it's becoming the exact
opposite in the US where they desire to kill off the middle class. I
just had to fill out papers for residency and one line inquired Male-
Female- Undecided so this drivel is spreading worldwide.
After the engineered crash in 2007-8 they did not subtract the destroyed
debt from the national debt but rebooted the financial system and left
the slave numbers in place. This is why in 2006 they stopped printing
the M3 statistic from the central bank so they could reboot and use the
old numbers.
If 911 which is an obvious bullshit sled ride will not get past peoples
brain barrier the flat earth is like convincing someone to push lead
ingots up Everest.
You want to be this agent of change which is a noble goal as one is
either part of the solution or problem then I would suggest building an
RV or something else over unity measurable 3d solid in front of ones
face so you can prove your point rather than using outside claims, it
will sink in better. Same as your dietary cures can be proven on the
spot when ones body heals itself.
If you think Bastille day will be repeated, they already took your guns
down there, good luck with that. One of the reasons they will not let
the people use the aetheric energies is they can make very dangerous
weapons. One guy with a backpack can shut down a whole division of
modern electronic warfare devices. So this is a second good use of this
information to replicate and determine how to make use of so one can
defend oneself from the big wipe if it comes by way of the military.
They are hoping it comes naturally so they can hide underground when
earth gets rebooted. If not, once the androids come online and can
replace any human job then the artificial wipe begins.
Ask yourself this question, using cell towers can one broadcast a
carrier that sterilizes the population, what vector will be used for the
big wipe. Doesn't take much to do in a city, just cutoff the banking
and in a week or two people will form into mad max tribes as most have
been conditioned by the imaginary money so much they forgot how to
interact and barter with one another.
One long generation of no reproduction can do it also.
So we either get this free energy off the ground or we are all cannon
fodder for the petrodollar pharmanazis. I think the flat earth theories
waste a lot of time of people attempting to move towards a free energy
economy so are more on the problem side than solution side. If you are
distracting people from this goal it does not matter if you are right or
not, think about it.
On 12/31/2017 12:50 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]
wrote:
> Mick,
>
> If someone teaches that 2+2 = 5 and I find out that it only = 4, then
> I want to set the record straight.
>
> Ask yourself, why would generations of scientists lie to everybody?
> Well those in the know, who are 33rd degree Masons and Jews, are in a
> conspiracy league against God. They lie about this Bible and gospel
> related subject.
>
> The ball earth is a foundation for evolution and the Big Bang theory
> and this completely gets rid of God, the Creator.
>
> The world is run by Satan the father of the lie, and his satanic
> elite, and their primary goal is to discredit and hide God, making us
> believe He doesn't exist and then to completely enslave mankind.
>
> Without the ball earth lie, all of Satan's and his elite's deceptions
> are exposed and blown out of the water so to speak.
>
> People are being herded along by the NWO to the point of no return,
> just as it was in Hitler's day, and if we don't wake people up now, it
> will suddenly be too late.
>
> They plan to kill more than 7 billion people and keep 500 million
> dumbed-down people as their slaves.
>
> Exposing the flat earth and the non moon landing and 9/11, and many
> other fake things is a way of waking people up and then we the people
> will have the power and the elite will be trying to find somewhere to
> hide.
>
> The French revolution comes to mind.
>
> Happy New Year mate!
>
> George
>
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> *From:* "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Saturday, 30 December 2017, 10:48
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] Some bible answers that may CLEAR some minds
> here ///
>
> Hi George,
> Quite the response, some good research. Have not heard of the book of
> Jasher for a long time.
> Someone said never talk politics or religion if one desires to keep
> ones friends.
>
> Can't say I abide by that as coming from the sensationalist rock music
> world always enjoy posting a bit of the politically incorrect just for
> fun and to always make a mockery of things provoked as sacred by the
> borg collective.
>
> Since finding out at the highest levels of science and government and
> justice most everything on the planet is just social engineered
> petrodollar nazipharma tripe I try to give everyone the benefit of the
> doubt.
>
> So I shall inquire once more, after many people decide to agree the
> earth is flat then what?
>
> Is this just to upset the apple cart or is there a long term plan or
> goal or agenda?
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/29/2017 6:13 PM, george gray [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>> Hector,
>>
>> Thanks for your link to a religious point of view of the earth.
>>
>> Let the Bible tell you the real story, read the texts a few times if
>> necessary until you understand the
>> meaning. Forget your previous knowledge, and think on these
>> scriptures and ask yourself:/*What is the Bible really showing me
>> concerning the nature of the heavens, the earth, the sun, moon and
>> stars?*//**//*What is the Bible telling me?*/
>>
>> "It is he who sits above the *circle *of the earth, and its
>> inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who *stretches out the heavens
>> like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in" *Is. 40:22
>>
>> We all know that a circle is not a ball. In fact, *the Hebrew word
>> used in this verse is "khoog" (pronounced chug). The word literally
>> means, circle, circuit, and compass.*
>>
>> In all of these words, none of them bring up a picture of a ball.
>> Furthermore if the earth were a ball, and God wished to communicate
>> that here, then it would have required using *the Hebrew word "dure"
>> (pronounced dur). The Hebrew definition for dure is, a circle, pile,
>> or ball.*
>>
>> If the shape of the earth was intended to be conveyed as a "ball"
>> then *the Hebrew word "dure" would have been the word used as found
>> in Isaiah 22:18, *"He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a
>> BALL into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the
>> chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house."
>>
>> *It wasn't used there, instead the Hebrew word "khoog." was used. The
>> flat earth depictions are exactly that, of a circle not a ball.*
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>> Another interesting example from Scripture is found in Joshua 10
>> where God caused *the "sun to stand still."*
>>
>> "And *the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, *until the nation
>> took vengeance on their enemies.
>> Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? *The sun stopped in the
>> midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day." **-
>> *Joshua 10:13
>>
>> If the sun is the centre of the universe and the earth is orbiting
>> around it, then for this event to occur, it would have to have been
>> the earth standing still, not the sun. However, if the earth is flat
>> and the sun and moon rotate inside the firmament or dome above us, it
>> would make perfect sense for the sun to stand still in order to
>> prolong the day here, and_notice that the moon also stopped._
>>
>> *Both the sun and the moon are inside our dome or firmament in the
>> midst of heaven, over the flat earth.*
>>
>> Regarding The Firmament of the heaven or the dome above us: And God
>> said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it
>> divide the waters from the waters. - Genesis 1:6
>>
>> And God said, *Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven *to
>> divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for
>> seasons, and for days, and years. - Genesis 1:14.
>>
>> Isaiah 13:9 says: Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with
>> wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall
>> destroy the sinners thereof out of it. Isaiah 13:10 says: For the
>> stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their
>> light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the_moon
>> shall not cause her light to shine._
>> _
>> _
>> *So it is clear that the sun gives his light and the moon gives her
>> light and the stars give their light and the light from the moon is
>> not reflected from the sun.*
>>
>> Which alone *spreadeth out the heavens*, and treadeth upon the waves
>> of the sea. - Job 9:8
>>
>> Hast thou with him spread out *the sky, which is strong, and as a
>> molten looking glass*? - Job 37:18
>>
>> The heavens declare the glory of God; and *the firmament sheweth his
>> handywork*. - Psalms 19:1
>>
>> Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens
>> are the work of thy hands. - Psalms 102:25
>>
>> Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out
>> the heavens like a curtain. - Psalms 104:2
>>
>> Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the
>> womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the
>> heavens alone; that *spreadeth* abroad the earth by myself. - Isaiah
>> 44:24
>>
>> I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands,
>> have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
>> - Isaiah 45:12
>>
>> Mine hand also hath laid *the foundation of the earth*, and my right
>> hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up
>> together. - Isaiah 48:13
>>
>> He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by
>> his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion. -
>> Jeremiah 10:12
>>
>> The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which
>> stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth *the foundation of the
>> earth*, and formeth the spirit of man within him. - Zechariah 12:1
>> *
>> *
>> **
>> *Now here are some scriptures regarding The Waters And The Heaven of
>> Heavens Above:*
>> And God said, Let there be *a firmament* in the midst of the waters,
>> and let it divide the waters from the waters. - Genesis 1:6
>>
>> Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD's thy God,
>> the earth also, with all that therein is. - Deuteronomy 10:14
>>
>> Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and *ye waters that be above the
>> heavens*. - Psalms 148:4
>>
>> For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God *the
>> heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in
>> the water*. - 2 Peter 3:5
>>
>> *Scriptures Regarding The Earth Being Immovable:*
>> And *the sun stood still, and the moon stayed*, until the people had
>> avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the
>> book of Jasher? So *the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, *and
>> hasted not to go down about a whole day. - Joshua 10:13
>>
>> Fear before him, all the earth: *the world also shall be stable, that
>> it be not moved. *- 1 Chronicles 16:30
>>
>> The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed
>> with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: _*the world also is
>> established, that it cannot be moved.*_**- Psalms 93:1
>>
>> Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: _*the world also shall
>> be established that it shall not be moved*_: he shall judge the
>> people righteously. - Psalms 96:10
>>
>> Who laid _*the foundations of the earth*__, __*that it should not be
>> removed for ever*__. _- Psalms 104:5
>>
>> Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone
>> down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So *the sun
>> returned ten degrees*, by which degrees it was gone down. - Isaiah 38:8
>>
>> *Scriptures Regarding The Flat Earth:*
>> And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of
>> heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall
>> be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come. - Jeremiah
>> 49:36
>>
>> Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of
>> Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land. -
>> Ezekiel 7:2
>>
>> *The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto
>> heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth. *- Daniel 4:11
>>
>> It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the
>> inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the
>> heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in. -
>> Isaiah 40:22
>>
>> Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and
>> sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them. -
>> Matthew 4:8
>>
>> And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as
>> it had been a great sheet knit at *the four corners*, and let down to
>> the earth. - Acts 10:11
>>
>> I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A
>> certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from
>> heaven by four corners; and it came even to me. - Acts 11:5
>>
>> And after these things I saw four angels standing on *the four
>> corners of the earth*, holding the four winds of the earth, that the
>> wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. -
>> Revelation 7:1
>>
>> And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in *the four
>> quarters of the earth*, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to
>> battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. - Revelation 20:8
>>
>> *There are no scriptures that teach that the earth is a round
>> spinning ball orbiting the sun?*
>>
>> Also, the verses which speak about the "four corners" of the earth
>> only makes sense in respect to the flat earth. If the earth were a
>> ball there wouldn't be one corner, let alone four.
>>
>> *Notice that the sun and moon are inside the Dome or Firmament of the
>> Earth and also the stars are attached to the dome or firmament.*
>>
>> In Genesis 1:6: “And God said, ‘Let there be an expanse in the midst
>> of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters’”
>> (ESV). *The Hebrew word for “expanse” is “raqiya.” It literally means
>> a firmament or a visible arch in the sky. *The NIV translates the
>> word there as *“vault.” *Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary adds
>> *“firmament—an expanse—a beating out as a plate of metal..”*
>>
>> There are more references for this. In Job 37:18 it reads, “Can you,
>> like him, *spread out the skies, hard as a cast metal mirror?” *The
>> Hebrew word for “spread out” is from the Hebrew word “raqa,” which is
>> the Hebrew root for “raqiya” that was used in Genesis. It literally
>> means to “pound the earth, by analogy to expand (by hammering), by
>> implication it means to overlay (with thin sheets of metal).
>> Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary *says it means a “molten
>> looking glass—image of the bright smiling sky. *Mirrors were then
>> formed of molten polished metal, not glass.”
>>
>> In Amos 9:6: “It is he that buildeth his stories in the heaven, and
>> hath founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the waters
>> of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD
>> is his name” (KJV), however. The ESV renders the verse this way: “who
>> builds his upper chambers in the heavens and founds his *vault upon
>> the earth*; who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out
>> upon the surface of the earth— the LORD is his name.”
>>
>> The Hebrew word translated as *"vault" is ‘aguddah’ *whose verb form
>> means to "bind, fit, or construct." Commenting on this verse, Richard
>> S. Cripps states that *"here it seems that the 'heavens' are 'bound'
>> or fitted into a solid vault, the ends of which are upon the earth."*
>>
>> Some evangelicals claim that the Bible contains at least three
>> references to a spherical earth (Is.40:22; Job 22:14; Prov. 8:27).
>> The Hebrew word /*hug */used here cannot be translated as sphere
>> (which is rendered by a different word), but must again be
>> interpreted as *a solid vault overarching the earth. *The Anchor
>> Bible translation of Is. 40:22: *"God sits upon the *_*dome *_*of the
>> earth." *Job 22:14 says that God *"walks on *_*the
>> vault*_*(*/*hug*/*) of heaven," *again suggesting something solid.
>> /*Hug* /can also refer to the circular perimeter of the sky-dome: "He
>> drew a circle (/hug/) on the face of the deep...and made *firm the
>> skies above*" (Prov. 8:27-28).
>>
>> The question arises, how is there a vault if we can see out into the
>> night sky? *God has placed the *_*"heavens" within the dome*_*. *The
>> references used here in the Hebrew referring to metal simply are
>> referring to the “strength” of the dome, not necessarily its
>> composition, which certainly could be transparent to allow for the
>> blue sky which separated the "waters from the waters."
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>> *From:* "[email protected] [EVGRAY]"
>> <mailto:[email protected][EVGRAY]> <[email protected]>
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 27 December 2017, 13:15
>> *Subject:* [EVGRAY] Some bible answers that may CLEAR some minds here ///
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>> https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/the-universe-confirms-the-bible/
>>
>>
>> Enjoy the reading ..
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>> (H)
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