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Hi George,
"If someone teaches that 2+2 = 5 and I find out that it only = 4, then I want to set the record straight."
That's the way it's done when using the scientific method. Always refine and question the results.
"Ask yourself, why would generations of scientists lie to everybody?"
True science wants the truth. When using lies it all becomes complicated. Some branches of science are a full of patches. Instead of using patches a better way is to start all over by using the knowledge acquired until now and make a new theory fit for the observations. A true scientist isn't just following the money but would do science by following the scientific method to seek out truth. It's a pity the financiers don't agree to seek out the truth. But a financier wants to get back the money put into some research project. The truth may prevent such a plan or spoil it for other big investments perhaps made by the same investor. One early example of this is Edison Tesla and J.P. Morgen. The medical health research and food industry have lots of that kind of conflicts.
Nobody seems to be able to prove that the Earth is flat. At least no proof if the proofs are put through the scientific method to see if they are true. If accepting false science we can prove that the Earth is cylinder shaped or cube shaped having flat sides. This requires lots of patches and some observations will have to be discarded. Doing that is not true science.
Regards
Ole
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Mick,
If someone teaches that 2+2 = 5 and I find out that it only = 4, then I want to set the record straight.
Ask yourself, why would generations of scientists lie to everybody? Well those in the know, who are 33rd degree Masons and Jews, are in a conspiracy league against God. They lie about this Bible and gospel related subject.
The ball earth is a foundation for evolution and the Big Bang theory and this completely gets rid of God, the Creator.
The world is run by Satan the father of the lie, and his satanic elite, and their primary goal is to discredit and hide God, making us believe He doesn't exist and then to completely enslave mankind.
Without the ball earth lie, all of Satan's and his elite's deceptions are exposed and blown out of the water so to speak.
People are being herded along by the NWO to the point of no return, just as it was in Hitler's day, and if we don't wake people up now, it will suddenly be too late.
They plan to kill more than 7 billion people and keep 500 million dumbed-down people as their slaves.
Exposing the flat earth and the non moon landing and 9/11, and many other fake things is a way of waking people up and then we the people will have the power and the elite will be trying to find somewhere to hide.
The French revolution comes to mind.
Happy New Year mate!
George
From: "Mick mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, 30 December 2017, 10:48
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Some bible answers that may CLEAR some minds here ///
Hi George,
Quite the response, some good research. Have not heard of the book of Jasher for a long time.
Someone said never talk politics or religion if one desires to keep ones friends.
Can't say I abide by that as coming from the sensationalist rock music world always enjoy posting a bit of the politically incorrect just for fun and to always make a mockery of things provoked as sacred by the borg collective.
Since finding out at the highest levels of science and government and justice most everything on the planet is just social engineered petrodollar nazipharma tripe I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
So I shall inquire once more, after many people decide to agree the earth is flat then what?
Is this just to upset the apple cart or is there a long term plan or goal or agenda?
On 12/29/2017 6:13 PM, george gray canowindracd@... mailto:canowindracd@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
Hector,
Thanks for your link to a religious point of view of the earth.
Let the Bible tell you the real story, read the texts a few times if necessary until you understand the
meaning. Forget your previous knowledge, and think on these scriptures and ask yourself: What is the Bible really showing me concerning the nature of the heavens, the earth, the sun, moon and stars? What is the Bible telling me?
"It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in" Is. 40:22
We all know that a circle is not a ball. In fact, the Hebrew word used in this verse is "khoog" (pronounced chug). The word literally means, circle, circuit, and compass.
In all of these words, none of them bring up a picture of a ball. Furthermore if the earth were a ball, and God wished to communicate that here, then it would have required using the Hebrew word "dure" (pronounced dur). The Hebrew definition for dure is, a circle, pile, or ball.
If the shape of the earth was intended to be conveyed as a "ball" then the Hebrew word "dure" would have been the word used as found in Isaiah 22:18, "He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a BALL into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house."
It wasn't used there, instead the Hebrew word "khoog." was used. The flat earth depictions are exactly that, of a circle not a ball.
Another interesting example from Scripture is found in Joshua 10 where God caused the "sun to stand still."
"And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies.
Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day." - Joshua 10:13
If the sun is the centre of the universe and the earth is orbiting around it, then for this event to occur, it would have to have been the earth standing still, not the sun. However, if the earth is flat and the sun and moon rotate inside the firmament or dome above us, it would make perfect sense for the sun to stand still in order to prolong the day here, and notice that the moon also stopped.
Both the sun and the moon are inside our dome or firmament in the midst of heaven, over the flat earth.
Regarding The Firmament of the heaven or the dome above us: And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. - Genesis 1:6
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years. - Genesis 1:14.
Isaiah 13:9 says: Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. Isaiah 13:10 says: For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
So it is clear that the sun gives his light and the moon gives her light and the stars give their light and the light from the moon is not reflected from the sun.
Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea. - Job 9:8
Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass? - Job 37:18
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. - Psalms 19:1
Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands. - Psalms 102:25
Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain. - Psalms 104:2
Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself. - Isaiah 44:24
I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. - Isaiah 45:12
Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together. - Isaiah 48:13
He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion. - Jeremiah 10:12
The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. - Zechariah 12:1
Now here are some scriptures regarding The Waters And The Heaven of Heavens Above:
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. - Genesis 1:6
Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD's thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is. - Deuteronomy 10:14
Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens. - Psalms 148:4
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water. - 2 Peter 3:5
Scriptures Regarding The Earth Being Immovable:
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. - Joshua 10:13
Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. - 1 Chronicles 16:30
The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is established, that it cannot be moved. - Psalms 93:1
Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously. - Psalms 96:10
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. - Psalms 104:5
Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down. - Isaiah 38:8
Scriptures Regarding The Flat Earth:
And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come. - Jeremiah 49:36
Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land. - Ezekiel 7:2
The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth. - Daniel 4:11
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in. - Isaiah 40:22