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The circle of the earth is a shit English translation it says globe or ball
.in Hebrew. I'm surprised any one understands the Bible even when new info
shows the old was wrong .they still prefer the wrong. And get mad about it
. get an analytical new testament concordance and reread and edit .it's
about 10.00 on line for one. You can't just read it and expect the hi mucky
mucks to have gone over it and put it right .they rarely do .its become a
business model for many and when you tell the faithful that there's many
translational errors well that's your monetary base that leaves .so nothing
is done to straiten it out .go along to get a long .the cash must flow !
And the seminary's are the worst .that's why there called cemetery's .even
the authors of the king james version said they looked forward to the day
when there translation was set right .it's wasn't written for accuracy but
for oratory no body could read 400 years ago .and that's how they put it
together by how it sounded not by truth .hay in the beginning was God and
the word was with God and the word WAS God .well if your using other words
other than what are in the Greek.. grammar and all ..are you really
worshiping God ??or something else ? Like a mess? Or social engineering? Or
go along to get along . it's about faith not planets and they really made
sure though damaging the translation you would probably never get it right
. it's not even taught in churches . the protocols of faith . it's criminal
what's happen ! It was written that Wolf's would inter into the church and
tear it to shreds and they did .
On Dec 29, 2017 5:48 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hi George,
>
> Quite the response, some good research. Have not heard of the book of
> Jasher for a long time.
> Someone said never talk politics or religion if one desires to keep ones
> friends.
>
> Can't say I abide by that as coming from the sensationalist rock music
> world always enjoy posting a bit of the politically incorrect just for fun
> and to always make a mockery of things provoked as sacred by the borg
> collective.
>
> Since finding out at the highest levels of science and government and
> justice most everything on the planet is just social engineered petrodollar
> nazipharma tripe I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
>
> So I shall inquire once more, after many people decide to agree the earth
> is flat then what?
>
> Is this just to upset the apple cart or is there a long term plan or goal
> or agenda?
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> On 12/29/2017 6:13 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> wrote:
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> Hector,
>
> Thanks for your link to a religious point of view of the earth.
>
> Let the Bible tell you the real story, read the texts a few times if
> necessary until you understand the
> meaning. Forget your previous knowledge, and think on these scriptures and
> ask yourself:* What is the Bible really showing me concerning the nature
> of the heavens, the earth, the sun, moon and stars?* *What is the Bible
> telling me?*
>
> "It is he who sits above the *circle *of the earth, and its inhabitants
> are like grasshoppers; who *stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and
> spreads them like a tent to dwell in" *Is. 40:22
>
> We all know that a circle is not a ball. In fact, *the Hebrew word used
> in this verse is "khoog" (pronounced chug). The word literally means,
> circle, circuit, and compass.*
>
> In all of these words, none of them bring up a picture of a ball.
> Furthermore if the earth were a ball, and God wished to communicate that
> here, then it would have required using *the Hebrew word "dure"
> (pronounced dur). The Hebrew definition for dure is, a circle, pile, or
> ball.*
>
> If the shape of the earth was intended to be conveyed as a "ball" then *the
> Hebrew word "dure" would have been the word used as found in Isaiah 22:18, *"He
> will surely violently turn and toss thee like a BALL into a large country:
> there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the
> shame of thy lord's house."
>
> *It wasn't used there, instead the Hebrew word "khoog." was used. The flat
> earth depictions are exactly that, of a circle not a ball.*
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> Another interesting example from Scripture is found in Joshua 10 where God
> caused *the "sun to stand still."*
>
> "And *the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, *until the nation took
> vengeance on their enemies.
> Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? *The sun stopped in the midst
> of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day." **- *Joshua
> 10:13
>
> If the sun is the centre of the universe and the earth is orbiting around
> it, then for this event to occur, it would have to have been the earth
> standing still, not the sun. However, if the earth is flat and the sun and
> moon rotate inside the firmament or dome above us, it would make perfect
> sense for the sun to stand still in order to prolong the day here, and*
> notice that the moon also stopped.*
>
> *Both the sun and the moon are inside our dome or firmament in the midst
> of heaven, over the flat earth.*
>
> Regarding The Firmament of the heaven or the dome above us: And God said,
> Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the
> waters from the waters. - Genesis 1:6
>
> And God said, *Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven *to
> divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons,
> and for days, and years. - Genesis 1:14.
>
> Isaiah 13:9 says: Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with
> wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the
> sinners thereof out of it. Isaiah 13:10 says: For the stars of heaven and
> the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be
> darkened in his going forth, and the* moon shall not cause her light to
> shine.*
>
> *So it is clear that the sun gives his light and the moon gives her light
> and the stars give their light and the light from the moon is not reflected
> from the sun.*
>
> Which alone *spreadeth out the heavens*, and treadeth upon the waves of
> the sea. - Job 9:8
>
> Hast thou with him spread out *the sky, which is strong, and as a molten
> looking glass*? - Job 37:18
>
> The heavens declare the glory of God; and *the firmament sheweth his
> handywork*. - Psalms 19:1
>
> Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the
> work of thy hands. - Psalms 102:25
>
> Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the
> heavens like a curtain. - Psalms 104:2
>
> Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb,
> I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens
> alone; that *spreadeth* abroad the earth by myself. - Isaiah 44:24
>
> I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have
> stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. - Isaiah
> 45:12
>
> Mine hand also hath laid *the foundation of the earth*, and my right hand
> hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together. -
> Isaiah 48:13
>
> He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his
> wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion. - Jeremiah
> 10:12
>
> The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which
> stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth *the foundation of the earth*,
> and formeth the spirit of man within him. - Zechariah 12:1
>
> *Now here are some scriptures regarding The Waters And The Heaven of
> Heavens Above:*
> And God said, Let there be *a firmament* in the midst of the waters, and
> let it divide the waters from the waters. - Genesis 1:6
>
> Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD's thy God, the
> earth also, with all that therein is. - Deuteronomy 10:14
>
> Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and *ye waters that be above the
> heavens*. - Psalms 148:4
>
> For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God *the
> heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the
> water*. - 2 Peter 3:5
>
> *Scriptures Regarding The Earth Being Immovable:*
> And *the sun stood still, and the moon stayed*, until the people had
> avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of
> Jasher? So *the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, *and hasted not
> to go down about a whole day. - Joshua 10:13
>
> Fear before him, all the earth: *the world also shall be stable, that it
> be not moved. *- 1 Chronicles 16:30
>
> The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with
> strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: *the world also is
> established, that it cannot be moved.* - Psalms 93:1
>
> Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: *the world also shall be
> established that it shall not be moved*: he shall judge the people
> righteously. - Psalms 96:10
>
> Who laid *the foundations of the earth**, **that it should not be removed
> for ever**. *- Psalms 104:5
>
> Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down
> in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So *the sun returned ten
> degrees*, by which degrees it was gone down. - Isaiah 38:8
>
> *Scriptures Regarding The Flat Earth:*
> And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of
> heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no
> nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come. - Jeremiah 49:36
>
> Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An
> end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land. - Ezekiel 7:2
>
> *The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto
> heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth. *- Daniel 4:11
>
> It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants
> thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain,
> and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in. - Isaiah 40:22
>
> Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and
> sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them. - Matthew
> 4:8
>
> And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had
> been a great sheet knit at *the four corners*, and let down to the earth.
> - Acts 10:11
>
> I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A
> certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven
> by four corners; and it came even to me. - Acts 11:5
>
> And after these things I saw four angels standing on *the four corners of
> the earth*, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not
> blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. - Revelation 7:1
>
> And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in *the four quarters
> of the earth*, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the
> number of whom is as the sand of the sea. - Revelation 20:8
>
> *There are no scriptures that teach that the earth is a round spinning
> ball orbiting the sun?*
>
> Also, the verses which speak about the "four corners" of the earth only
> makes sense in respect to the flat earth. If the earth were a ball there
> wouldn't be one corner, let alone four.
>
> *Notice that the sun and moon are inside the Dome or Firmament of the
> Earth and also the stars are attached to the dome or firmament.*
>
> In Genesis 1:6: “And God said, ‘Let there be an expanse in the midst of
> the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters’” (ESV). *The
> Hebrew word for “expanse” is “raqiya.” It literally means a firmament or a
> visible arch in the sky. *The NIV translates the word there as *“vault.” *Jamieson-Fausset-Brown
> Bible Commentary adds *“firmament—an expanse—a beating out as a plate of
> metal.”*
>
> There are more references for this. In Job 37:18 it reads, “Can you, like
> him, *spread out the skies, hard as a cast metal mirror?” *The Hebrew
> word for “spread out” is from the Hebrew word “raqa,” which is the Hebrew
> root for “raqiya” that was used in Genesis. It literally means to “pound
> the earth, by analogy to expand (by hammering), by implication it means to
> overlay (with thin sheets of metal). Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible
> Commentary *says it means a “molten looking glass—image of the bright
> smiling sky. *Mirrors were then formed of molten polished metal, not
> glass.”
>
> In Amos 9:6: “It is he that buildeth his stories in the heaven, and hath
> founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea,
> and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name”
> (KJV), however. The ESV renders the verse this way: “who builds his upper
> chambers in the heavens and founds his *vault upon the earth*; who calls
> for the waters of the sea and pours them out upon the surface of the earth—
> the LORD is his name.”
>
> The Hebrew word translated as *"vault" is ‘aguddah’ *whose verb form
> means to "bind, fit, or construct." Commenting on this verse, Richard S.
> Cripps states that *"here it seems that the 'heavens' are 'bound' or
> fitted into a solid vault, the ends of which are upon the earth."*
>
> Some evangelicals claim that the Bible contains at least three references
> to a spherical earth (Is.40:22; Job 22:14; Prov. 8:27). The Hebrew word *hug
> *used here cannot be translated as sphere (which is rendered by a
> different word), but must again be interpreted as *a solid vault
> overarching the earth. *The Anchor Bible translation of Is. 40:22: *"God
> sits upon the **dome **of the earth." *Job 22:14 says that God *"walks on
> **the vault** (**hug**) of heaven," *again suggesting something solid. *Hug
> *can also refer to the circular perimeter of the sky-dome: "He drew a
> circle (*hug*) on the face of the deep...and made *firm the skies above*"
> (Prov. 8:27-28).
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> The question arises, how is there a vault if we can see out into the night
> sky? *God has placed the **"heavens" within the dome**. *The references
> used here in the Hebrew referring to metal simply are referring to the
> “strength” of the dome, not necessarily its composition, which certainly
> could be transparent to allow for the blue sky which separated the "waters
> from the waters."
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> *From:* "[email protected] [EVGRAY]"
> <[email protected][EVGRAY]> <[email protected]>
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> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 27 December 2017, 13:15
> *Subject:* [EVGRAY] Some bible answers that may CLEAR some minds here ///
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> https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/the-universe-confirms-the-bible/
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> Enjoy the reading ..
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> (H)
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