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All liquids coalesce into balls or globes or spheres in space that's how
there making supper accurate ball bearings up there .
On Dec 17, 2017 07:49, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hi George,
>
> It's not good enough as a proof. Use the scientific method to refine
> theory. Use Occam's razor to simplify. Nature must optimize its energy to
> simple levels.
>
> Using mathematics is very fine. But a mathematical model must fit the
> actual observations and be able to predict new kind of observations to be
> correct. Bad science is like Einstein making thought experiments (gedanken
> experimenter) that doesn't apply to the real world. The flat earth theory
> (or conspiracy) can be compared to that.
>
> An experiment could be made from a high flying plane like 10 km above
> ground (passenger planes). From that height or from the top of Mount
> Everest a radio beam (MASER) or a LASER beam could be shone to all places
> of the earth if it is flat. Radio communication from that height could be
> heard all over the earth using moderate power if really the earth is flat.
> A transmitter of same power as is used from a geostationary communication
> satellite would be adequate. Actually one satellite placed the right place
> would be able to cover all of the flat earth.
>
> Another thing not covered by the flat earth conspiracy is why a Foucault
> pendulum behaves like it does? Why a frictionless gimbal mounted spinning
> flywheel (gyroscope) points in the same direction in space which is
> different from the moving earth direction. Why when applying some friction
> between the moving earth and flywheel of the gyroscope it becomes a
> gyrocompass aligning itself towards the North Star. Why the Coriolis force
> is acting on the oceans and atmosphere. Why all other planets and moons
> flown by are round if the earth isn't?
>
> This debate was done some hundred years ago. Why are we having it again?
> What have changed like are there some new experiments disproving the
> conclusion from that time? Or is it just the plain bad old divide and
> conquer tactic.
>
> I'm definitely not convinced in the earth being flat only in examples of
> narrow minded science not adequately describing nature. Why do they waste
> so much time it this? Is it because YouTube pays them for doing fake
> science like YouTube pays for fake news?! They should use the scientific
> method or the journalistic method to make the pieces fit together.
>
> Regards
> Ole
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> ---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :
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> Hi Ole,
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> This is on the subject we discussed.
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> https://youtu.be/mdo_Pl_Ev5Y
> Globe Earth "Mathematically" Impossible? <https://youtu.be/mdo_Pl_Ev5Y>
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> *From:* "onielsen@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 12 December 2017, 11:09
> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] Secrets Revealed! "What Masons have Been Hiding"
> Ancient cosmology. A must see and share video
>
>
> Hi George,
>
> "I've looked at the information you sent to me, and I want to discuss the
> subject of the real sun and the mirage sun and the photons from the real
> sun and the mirage sun."
> I guess that by the real sun is meant the place where the sun actually is
> and the mirage sun is the direction it is seen from an observer's point of
> view. If it is the problem with the photons speed discussed in the video an
> experiment can be done with slower moving waves like sound waves. The sound
> waves can be sent from a noisy jet fighter plane moving at high speed below
> the speed of the sound waves. As the plane also can be seen by light waves
> that moves almost at infinite speed compared to the speed of sound the
> sound of the plane will be heard from another place than where the plane is
> observed. This 'mirage' sound is not where the plane actually is but is
> where it was at the time the sound waves were emitted. This is not like in
> the video just a single particle sent from the plane. It is actually waves
> in all directions in the particles surrounding the plane. The same happens
> with light emitted by the sun. The waves consist of all photons around the
> sun. It's not necessary the actual photons emitted by the sun that is seen
> as the sun. Consider some kind of medium carrying the waves (aether
> theory). The light is then waves in that medium. Call it vacuum if not
> liking the old word for it (aether). Vacuum has physical constants like the
> vacuum permittivity and the vacuum permeability (or should it be aether
> permittivity and permeability?). Those two constants are what determine the
> signal propagation velocity which for vacuum is c (i.e. the speed of light
> in vacuum). For more dense materials like plastic or glass the constants
> differ giving a slower signal speed. This is what makes the light beam
> deflect when changing speed from entering a less dense to a denser material
> or vice versa.
>
> "So if we set up a camera recording a sunset will we be able to see when
> the real sun actually changes from a real sun to a mirage sun?
>
> Will it be the same for a sunrise? Will we see the mirage sun before the
> real sun becomes visible and how does the real sun and the mirage sun
> merge; will that be discernible?"
>
> No and yes same for sunrise. Because of what is seen is the mirage sun
> only and not the actual position of the sun. Use the analogy of sound
> emitted from a jet plane where the almost real position actually can be
> seen too. By geometric calculations and precise observations a change in
> the speed of the sun (or a star) across the sky should be able to be
> detected. The earth doesn't change angular speed to any degree during one
> revolution. Thus observing a change in the speed across the sky of the sun
> or any other far object like a star must be contributed to the deflection
> of the light from that object when passing through the atmosphere or
> perhaps even an aetheric field around the earth. ET contact sources have
> other explanations of light coming from the sun than our accepted school
> teachings. They use several densities of the medium where the waves travel.
> At lighter densities the signal speed is much faster than what we measure
> with our instruments at what is called the third density.
>
> "Also what about the photons, do you think they will fit into this
> scenario; how will they react with the real sun and the mirage sun, given
> the speed the earth is supposed to be travelling at? Will the photons have
> to change course after leaving the real sun and how will they do that?"
>
> Again use the analogy of the jet plane. The sound waves emitted don't have
> to change direction to be heard by an observer standing still at the
> ground. This is because the waves are emitted in all directions from the
> plane. The waves are transmitted as ripples in the air in all directions
> without the molecules actually having to travel all the way to the
> observer. Only the waves travel to the observer and everywhere else around
> the plane. The sun also emits its waves in all directions. Thus instead of
> observing photons from the real place of the sun other photons are seen
> from where the sun was at the point in time when the photons were actually
> emitted.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :
>
> Hi Ole,
>
> I've looked at the information you sent to me, and I want to discuss the
> subject of the real sun and the mirage sun and the photons from the real
> sun and the mirage sun.
>
> *"Astronomical Refraction and Terrestrial Refraction*
> Light is naturally available in our surrounding, either in day time or at
> night. Such light may derive from the natural or artificial resources. When
> we see an object located far from our standing place, we think that what we
> see is its actual appearance. We are frequently unaware that what we see is
> actually not the real appearance of such object. For example, once upon a
> time when we are at a beach and admiring the beauty of nature before the
> sun set. The sun looks moving down slowly, and in a certain time the lower
> part of the sun touches the edge of the sky or horizon. The panorama is so
> beautiful. However, when we see that beautiful panorama we are not aware
> that *the actual sun has already fallen under the horizon.* *So, what we
> see is not the actual sun, but the apparent sun, or the sun on its
> ‘apparent position’.* *Even, the horizon or the sky edge that we see is
> not the actual sky edge, but the illusive sky edge.*
>
> Such phenomena is caused by the occurrence of light refraction reaching to
> our eyes. The light refraction causing the presence of apparent sun is
> called ‘astronomical light curve’ or ‘Astronomical Refraction’, whereas the
> thing causing the presence of the illusive sky edge is called ‘earthy light
> curve’ or “Terrestrial Refraction”. *The said terrestrial refraction
> causes the phenomena of ‘Mirage’. And mirage is not an optical illusion,
> but an actual physical phenomena."*
>
> So if we set up a camera recording a sunset will we be able to see when
> the real sun actually changes from a real sun to a mirage sun?
>
> Will it be the same for a sunrise? Will we see the mirage sun before the
> real sun becomes visible and how does the real sun and the mirage sun
> merge; will that be discernible?
>
> Also what about the photons, do you think they will fit into this
> scenario; how will they react with the real sun and the mirage sun, given
> the speed the earth is supposed to be travelling at? Will the photons have
> to change course after leaving the real sun and how will they do that?
>
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