Re: Warren's daisy chain motors - Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Most lightning active point on planet

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OleThe motors don't seem to be super magnets or anything like them, more the ferrrite magnet type.I have had to crazy glue the occasional motor magnets back in place, and looking at these magnets, found them nothig special.
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  On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:13 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Kone,

As motors and generators are the same component they can transform energy between mechanical and electrical states. As well as the transformation between different kinds of energy they can store both of these kinds of energy thus making them work as both active and reactive power components. The diode bridges (a single diode between each motor would give less loss) prevent power from going back in the daisy chain. If monitoring the speed perhaps pulses of power is operating across the chain.

I can get cheap motors but don't know if they'll work for such an experiment. The high efficient motors work very well as generators (dynamos) but are expensive. It would be nice to know how efficient the motors have to be or what kind of motors that work for the experiment.

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Ole



---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :


Hi Ole

I think the most important feature of DC motors, if they will work or not, with Warren's daisy chain FWBR experiment,

is if the DC motors have any sort of  suppresion of the spark-flash at the brushes, such as some DC motors will have a diode that simply shoots the spike right back into the windings, some DC motors will have the placement of the brush-spacing to be just right so that the spike does not manifest at cetain rpms , some DC motors might have a magnet near the brushes to suppress the spike flash.....I would think you would want DC motors with no form of spark flash suppression for this experiment to work as it did for Warren.

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