Re: [EVGRAY] Secrets Revealed! "What Masons have Been Hiding" Ancient cosmology. A must see and share video

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Ole,
I copied some negative comments on the videos.
       perspective of Reality   3 months agoWait did i miss something? There was no mesurment overlay to compare the size change if any. the vid did not follow till the sun set as it would be further away and start to change in size the most at tjst point. But the vid stops before we could see what happens as it went out of view and set over the horizon. all I seen was longitude and latitude coordinates. Not an actual mesurment of the sun size as it sets. not only that but your tracking the sun. You have to have the scope fixed in the observation direction of the sun setting, And fixed in zoom. then time laps the sun as it sets with the overly mesurment graph in view as it does so. So we can watch it set as we see it move over the comparison mesurment markers. to see it change or not. this is just an opinion of observation. There's no mesurment of the sun in this vid. Wait didn't we just have this discussion that there was no vid of you with no measurements. You left out the most important mesurment of all. The sun's size. Really? You do see the problem right?

      Hank Jensen   8 minutes ago  I’m sorry in advance to be a complainer but I feel it’s important to say that your logic is poor. I am not a flat earther but if you take an orange and cut it, you are just making a flat circle. And whatever is below your vantage point from the now flat part of the orange is irrelevant, as you can essentially cut that off too and you would be left with a flat round disc. The horizon, whether flat or curved does in fact need to come around and connect to itself. We are always looking down on the earth. And the higher up we go, the more curvature we should see. Just as all the photos from balloons and nasa show us. So do you think, if these balloons or nasa were to show a 360 degree shot, the horizon would not connect to itself? You can see this for yourself with your own hand, curved in a ball, in front of your face. As you turn it, the highest level of the horizon stays at eye level but from every direction, you will see curvature on the left and right side. Flat earthers are using mathematically sound equations for the curvature we should see based on the size of the earth, the viewable distance and the height of the viewpoint. Off topic, Einstein himself said either coordinate system (round or flat) could be true. Like I said I am not a flat earther. But I am not an advocate that the earth is a globe either. There is quite a bit of conflicted data for those who open their eyes and see it. And i have yet to see a good explanation for the lack of curvature that the equations show us we should see. One of my best friends, who I trust strongly, believes there is no conspiracy and he has suggested that maybe light somehow bends via gravity and that is why we do not see solid (non photo) proof and why the numerous tests over water prove that there isn’t curvature where there should be. I would be interested in an explanation along those lines. But cutting a round object and making it flat, is not a good explanation. I suggest you take the video down as it gives people false information. I also suggest the majority of flat earth videos be taken down as well as most of them (not all) use poor logic. But the curvature issue is a real problem. NASA should have stepped up and put it to bed with sound proof that doesn’t involve a great lack of actual video footage above earth, of Earth and in space. I do not believe we went to the moon, traveling 25,000 miles per hour, 250,000 miles away, in the small Apollo vessels and landed there and flew back, 50 years ago and that we lost the technology to go back there. Nor do I believe it was ok to murder millions of Jews. Nor do I believe we evolved from non life or single celled life. And yet so many people believe and or believed in these things. You can call it conspiracy or you can call it lies to benefit the liars, but either way, there are a lot of liars out there. Some people, like me, don’t care about the mocking and fear mongering used to scare people into thinking that they are stupid for questioning things. It seems to me that you are somewhere in the middle of that type and that you genuinely want to help people understand and believe that you are clearing up a problem. But it’s not cleared up. You, being a doer, and me being just a sayer here, I’d like to watch a video that I don’t have to stop watching early on because the logic was not well thought through. Good luck and God bless. 


   Jimmy Jones   3 days ago  Okay bro. Lake Bihakail Russia is 395 miles long. Still with me? It freezes over every year and can be seen from one end to the other with minimal effort. Still with me? Now my questions to you are, "how many 395 mile sections of flat terrain does it take to make a sphere?" How did Richard Nixon make a 395,000 mile phone call in 1969? What's the formula for shuttles thrusting in a vacuum? Why have constellations remained in the exact sequences since hieroglyph cave drawings? Why does the horizon rise to eye level, regardless of altitude, if our terrain exhibits any form of rotundity? Why don't planes constantly dip their nose downward to account for the constant curvature they encounter to ensure they remain at the same cruising height? I thought so... Return to your programming... Dont forget to get your 8 glasses a day LMAO 


         DavidZimbeck   6 days ago   the stars prove a flat earth, otherwise your stars have to assume a "flat galaxy" and "flat solar system" which is totally retarded like a zillion coincidences in a row... so coincidental like saying my computer built itself. The southern star trail vids are shot with fish eye, highly edited and even so, there is refraction and thus stars at different elevations are effected by different amounts of refraction causing the southern curve pattern... and of course there is holography and dome lens effects too. Plus stars on the round earth system would have to be quintillions and even sextillions of miles away which is stupid as they are completely stable in the sky not refracting or being blocked in their journey.    From: "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
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    Hi George,

Explain the following.

Camera tracking the sun by only rotating in a 2D plane as if the Earth is rotating around some fixed axis 'Flat Earth - Proof the Size of the Sun does not change.' (8:14 minutes):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTDNVI1Cxd4

Some more education 'Proving the Earth is not Flat - Part 1 - The Horizon' (15:56 minutes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ksbh88OJs

Part 2 from the same source explains using the scientific method 'Proving the Earth is not Flat - Part 2 - The Stars' (17:27 minutes): 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGZEXkSX9wI

Please stop promoting fake science as we really don't need it for anything or perhaps only to divide and conquer if that's the purpose.

Regards
Ole


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Warren, and also Darrell and James,
Darrell and James, you are both familiar with the Bible and there are some 60-70 bible verses that show that we live on a flat immovable earth covered with an impenetrable dome and all created for us by God.
The ball earth is used to hide the flat immovable earth and the existence of the Creator and get us to believe in evolution.  This is what the Elite, the Illuminati, the Masons are hiding.  They want us to believe in the big-bang theory, so-called space, and the so-called universe, cosmos and also aliens. They want to keep us dumbed down under their control and not knowing the truth.

Nothing can enter or leave the earth through the firmament or dome; we live in a closed system with the sun and moon inside the dome and the stars are attached to the dome also known as the firmament.  Even Tesla agreed that the stars are attached to the firmament.

Soon we will hear about a fake alien invasion, just another false-flag operation to bring fear to the people so more of our freedoms can be taken away from us.

Warren, radio waves can be bounced off the dome and this has been done a lot.
Do you believe that atmospheric reflection of the water allows someone up the mast to see a ship 200 miles away at sea, which should be hidden by over 5 miles below the horizon due to the curvature of the earth?
If the ship is visible 200 miles away then common sense should tell us that there is no curvature of the earth for 200 miles.

Also using only common sense again, this photo below should prove that there is no curvature of the earth over the said distance of 443 Km.
https://youtu.be/hIHPi2rVVOw  World Record Distance Photo PROVES The Earth Is Flat!!! ✅youtu.beThis photograph proves without a doubt that the world is indeed flat! There is no measurable curvature that we can measure anywhere across the plane. This wo...
Common sense should also be used when we see Ireland from England. Ireland should be hidden 1 mile below the horizon.
https://youtu.be/FER0tnEFzLc
|  | Flat Earth - Ireland from England? ✅youtu.beCould this be Ireland as viewed from England? Thanks and credit go to: Sleeping Warrior Please see his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgc9BMkY5M3l... |

I hope all goes well for you in your new home mate and I'm glad it's you doing the moving and not me.Below is a funny for you to have a laugh.
Subject: Kids A psychiatrist was conducting a Group Therapy Session with five young mothers and their small children. "You all have obsessions,"he stated. "I am concerned that these individual obsessions are going to impact your children."  To the first mother, he said: "Mary, you are obsessed with eating. You've even named your daughter: Candy."  He turned to the second Mum: "Ann, your obsession is with money. It manifests itself in your children's names of Penny, Goldie and Frank.  He turned to the third Mum, "Joyce: Your obsession is alcohol. This too shows itself in your children's names: of Brandy and Sherry.You have even called your cat: Whisky."  He then turned to the fourth Mum: "June: Your obsession is with flowers. Your girls are called Rose, Daphne, and Poppy."  At this point, the fifth mother, Kathy, quietly got up from her seat, took her little boy by the hand and whispered: "Come on Dick,this guy has no idea what he's talking about, Grab Fanny and Willy, we're leaving..." 

      From: "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Sunday, 3 December 2017, 17:59
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    GeorgeLook out!Its happening again.You are being led astray into the wobbly world of pancakes, and sheets of paper.However attractive it is, constructing a World based on words written on paper, kids now have a habbit of making things with their 3 D printers.XY is easy, now try XYZ.All kidding asideAtmosphere reflection of the water and things on it is common enough for mariners to see under certain conditions, much like radio signals, in some conditions, bouncing off the ionishere. It is a trick of spherical math when learning to navigate, that we make an assumption of the sun travelling over the earth, to use the sextant readings.Don"t fo a second expect this little orb of consiousness is standing still in relationship to the cosmos, or we, our little globs of busy matter, aren't, in fact, composed of yet infinately smaller versions of that which outside the earth, the universe as we have come to know it.All of reality,  as we are familiar with it, is based on that which we can sense with our various failing body senses, and the abstract construction of what that perception leads us to imagine.We, as tool making primates, have managed to infest this entire orb because of our ability to make machines that extend our physical abilities, and our mental ones as well.Not all of us are equally gifted, in creating the various tools that humanity has nurtured. The conceptual ones sure get tricky when one foot is tied to a string and we find ourselves walking in circles in the dark, and tumble through space.It it works for you, hang on to that life raft, but bear in mind, the rest of humanity is occupied with other tasks, being free of that impediment, to some extent, or another.Now, if we could only restrain ourselves from making tools that hurt each other.Cheers Warren

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  On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 8:59 PM, george gray canowindracd@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       Darrell,

Actually the sextant proves the flat earth.Celestial Navigation-proves Flat Earth

  
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It has been well established that ships have been seen 200 miles away on the flat earth.  See below:

The Measurable Non-Curvature of the Flat Earth - The Atlantean ...
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/02/flat-earth-curvature.html   
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It has been well established that Polaris can bee seen below the equator.
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      From: "edarrell71@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
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    I can't figure out why the flat earthers can't understand that it would be very difficult to circumnavigate  the surface of this planet without a sextant!

 Oh! They probably have never heard of a sextant, much less ever site through one... 

https://www.marineinsight.com/marine-navigation/what-is-a-sextant/  

       

  

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