My question to the whole group !

28 messages · 2019-07-21T07:01:45-07:00 → 2019-07-24T05:05:01+00:00
You all have RV tool , the most efficient motor in the world and can be made with simple off the shelve motor ..oil capacitors switches & wire ///

It is OU out of the box and mechanically all you people need is a low lens law generator coupled to it !  


then my question is why you keep hunting red herrings and diving deep into the bull ass to breath deep into the bullshit! ???

why ? 

(H)

[2/28] Re: My question to the whole group !

2019-07-21T15:46:46-07:00 · unknown <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
What is RV tool?   

 

 Why is buying a "low lens law generator" superior to a FP motor that has the generator circuit already built in?
Eagle, will you provide schematics of these claims?  You make plenty of
outrageous claims but show no proof and then dump on respected people. 
PT Barnum bullshit, so prove up your claims if you have an Indian motor
that does as you say video it and show us plans.  You come on here and
have done nothing aside from sending a member a device to experiment
(which was pretty cool) with but then beyond an oily film there seems to
be a whole lot of nothing.

 

On 7/21/2019 3:46 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> What is RV tool?  
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> Why is buying a "low lens law generator" superior to a FP motor that
> has the generator circuit already built in?
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Please do not derail or hijack the thread Mich.
 

 I asked a much better question of Hector...
 

 What is RV tool?   

 

 Why is buying a "low lens law generator" superior to a FP motor that has the generator circuit already built in?

[5/28] Re: My question to the whole group !

2019-07-22T05:13:11+00:00 · Douglas Konzen <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Mr incredibly bad
The generator circuit is built in because 3ph so you can run it on single or two phase duh
 but it suffers from lemz law lugging when generator circuit is loaded with a load. 
So with 100w load on it now the motor part of it takes 200w or 300w or much more extra  to turn the motor spinning rotor.
  If you look at only voltage you dont see lemz law since not power smd is just voltage
Tell us how Joe gets around this please and not by calling lemz law lugging eddy curremts
 renaming or correcting the description is not explaining how Joe does it
Kone
Mr incredibly ignorant
Here is description of a rotovertor below in link (RV for short)
Since FP motors also 3pb.maybe similar circuit can be done with FP....ask Joe.
What happens with rotovertor is it creates a motor with very little draw and you tune shaft to load with the run cap.
If you extract power from run cap with series transformer and tuned caps and load, it becomes overunity motor with a " built in" generator phase you could call it (AKA rotary transformer phase)
An RV motor as a tool to see if a generator on shaft is Lenz law free is very good tool to check generator if it really is frer.
as you can get big 5bp size AC induction motor running 1800rpm on 120vac and 100ma and just a finger touch to shaft will raise the draw on meter so you can really see right away if generator on shaft wben loaded with a resistance or fills up caps from zero will cause more draw. If it does not cause extra draw ou can say it is Lenz free generator. The FP motor as generator is not perhapz there is a particular wiring to be done to it and very particular rpm window where it is lenz free. Ask Joe
https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/rotovertor-basic-circuit
Kone

[7/28] Re: My question to the whole group !

2019-07-22T06:40:20-07:00 · Douglas Konzen <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Shit on end of stick (descriptiive eh)  better the shit is cold rather than not as it stinks a lot less

[8/28] Re: My question to the whole group !

2019-07-22T07:23:17+00:00 · unknown <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Do you know the difference between Cold and Hot Electricity?
 Perhaps Norm would care to buy in on this debate? http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/books/330004.htm http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/books/330004.htm
 

 Lenz Law does not apply to Cold Electricity. AC is HOT. Boat anchors are HOT. This is not what you are looking for. Norm gave up it would seem as he didnt understand the Opposite and Equal Laws. 

 

 Hot takes POWER to generate due to Lenz laws. Cold does not take any power to MANIFEST. Its like it wants to escape the FP motor (from the Aether)

 

 As I have said on other forums, Throw away all your amp/voltmeters and O'Scopes. They will MOST CERTAINLY stop your progress. This includes Sviatlana as you clearly got her thinking muddled with them HOT Meters. If you even think you need them, you are thinking wrong.
 

 If you want to understand how Joe does it...
 Go back to what I have written in this last week and extract all the real science motor statements  and string just them together. If a light fails to go off in your head, go have a smoke Kone.  

 

 As far as Morin is concerned, In saying he is a Genius doesnt mean he knows it all. But he sure knows more than here. I also said if Joe were to give him just a few pointers, he could crack it...  He has generated Cold Electricity and grabbed the wires like I have.
 

 Again, has anyone made a FP motor  'just' a generator?
https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/rotovertor-basic-circuit https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/rotovertor-basic-circuit
 This is NOT the wiring of the FP Motor that Joe uses and has used for quite a few years. It makes Hot Electricity.

 This RV Link, the wiring Joe showed me 15 years ago on how to make any motor a generator as well. It doesnt make COLD electricity.
 

 Its Mr Ignoramus please.

[10/28] Re: My question to the whole group !

2019-07-22T07:53:35+00:00 · Douglas Konzen <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Mr incredibly condescending and ignorant
Duh yes I know difference between cold and hot and what resistance does and what.mo resistamce or filling caps does.e does. I would one to know if a motor lugs iwhen power is extracted from a generator on shaft or through secondary pick up or generator winds is that ok with you I buess.mot let's insteameratptd believe bullshit Morin.
Your advice is bullshit please shut up
 Norm has worked with rotovertor be knows lots more than you that is for sure I hope he is smart and ignores your antagonistical shot on end of stick
Kone

[11/28] Re: My question to the whole group !

2019-07-22T08:44:11+00:00 · Douglas Konzen <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Meant to write "antagonistic shit on a stick"

[12/28] Re: My question to the whole group !

2019-07-22T10:44:17+00:00 · unknown <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Given this is the forum of Grays Cold Electricity car engine.....
 I dont believe any one of you know an antagonistic shit on a stick fuck about it.
 

 as greenrevolution says  Show Me the Data...  How does the Sun produce Electricity Kone   anyone?
Eagle -Maybe this picture from Dale Pond works? Also interested in hearing more on Cold Electricity.L




    On Monday, July 22, 2019, 3:45:54 a.m. PDT, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     

Given this is the forum of Grays Cold Electricity car engine.....I dont believe any one of you know an antagonistic shit on a stick fuck about it.
as greenrevolution says  Show Me the Data...  How does the Sun produce Electricity Kone   anyone?
DougEase your adrenaline, or whatever juices the bile, and use your spam filter.The gap is dynamic, and will keep stretching forever wider, as it is only searching for response, and proof of existence.It is a condition that logic plays  very little in, and your ire, gets you cranked up, taking from those pleasant creative explorations, that help one, and all. Spam, and the troll is gone.Cheers WarrenSent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon., 22 Jul. 2019 at 3:56 a.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Mr incredibly condescending and ignorant
Duh yes I know difference between cold and hot and what resistance does and what.mo resistamce or filling caps does.e does. I would one to know if a motor lugs iwhen power is extracted from a generator on shaft or through secondary pick up or generator winds is that ok with you I buess.mot let's insteameratptd believe bullshit Morin.
Your advice is bullshit please shut up
 Norm has worked with rotovertor be knows lots more than you that is for sure I hope he is smart and ignores your antagonistical shot on end of stick
Kone
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  On Mon., 22 Jul. 2019 at 6:59 a.m., LA Copleston [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Eagle -Maybe this picture from Dale Pond works? Also interested in hearing more on Cold Electricity.L




    On Monday, July 22, 2019, 3:45:54 a.m. PDT, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     

Given this is the forum of Grays Cold Electricity car engine.....I dont believe any one of you know an antagonistic shit on a stick fuck about it.
as greenrevolution says  Show Me the Data...  How does the Sun produce Electricity Kone   anyone?
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Hi MerLynn

"I also said if Joe were to give him just a few pointers, he could crack it...  He has generated Cold Electricity and grabbed the wires like I have."

Can you give a definition on cold electricity? When Floyd Sweet got cold electricity or whatever kind of electricity it was between two fingers they got frozen which was very hurtful. When a wire shorted the current it got covered by frost. Sweet found it much more dangerous than ordinary electricity. Is that cold electricity or negative electricity?

On the other hand high frequency current can't be felt by out nerves. When high enough frequency it may not even penetrate the body because of the skin effect. But be extremely careful. It may still burn out the nerves or some internal organs if finding a path through them. Here is a guy lighting a 230V/15W incandescent bulb fed from a 500 kHz Tesla coil transmitted to a second coil and picked up by a hand to light the bulb. His body is the opposite terminal that closes the circuit through the lamp. The impedance of the lamp is matched enough to have the energy dissipated here. Hopefully not too great power is dissipated in the guy holding the lamp. The circuit is mainly capacitively coupled. Here is the video: 12 V SSTC Whireless Power Transmission for a 230 V Incandescent Light Bulb (0:55): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0_VAZLehwA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0_VAZLehwA.

In this next video another guy shows different tricks with a Tesla coil including lighting an incandescent lamp: SSTC Incadescent Lamp Lighting Stunt (3:52): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsOO-Bwj2MY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsOO-Bwj2MY.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

 Do you know the difference between Cold and Hot Electricity?
 Perhaps Norm would care to buy in on this debate? http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/books/330004.htm http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/books/330004.htm
 

 Lenz Law does not apply to Cold Electricity. AC is HOT. Boat anchors are HOT. This is not what you are looking for. Norm gave up it would seem as he didnt understand the Opposite and Equal Laws. 

 

 Hot takes POWER to generate due to Lenz laws. Cold does not take any power to MANIFEST. Its like it wants to escape the FP motor (from the Aether)

 

 As I have said on other forums, Throw away all your amp/voltmeters and O'Scopes. They will MOST CERTAINLY stop your progress. This includes Sviatlana as you clearly got her thinking muddled with them HOT Meters. If you even think you need them, you are thinking wrong.
 

 If you want to understand how Joe does it...
 Go back to what I have written in this last week and extract all the real science motor statements  and string just them together. If a light fails to go off in your head, go have a smoke Kone.  

 

 As far as Morin is concerned, In saying he is a Genius doesnt mean he knows it all. But he sure knows more than here. I also said if Joe were to give him just a few pointers, he could crack it...  He has generated Cold Electricity and grabbed the wires like I have.
 

 Again, has anyone made a FP motor  'just' a generator?

[17/28] Re: [EVGRAY] My question to the whole group !

2019-07-22T21:42:45+00:00 · james glinski <[email protected]>
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Diagrams not rhetoric .something real ?.

On Monday, July 22, 2019, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
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> Shit on end of stick (descriptiive eh) better the shit is cold rather than
> not as it stinks a lot less
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[18/28] Re: [EVGRAY] My question to the whole group !

2019-07-22T21:45:01+00:00 · james glinski <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CA+uJ=nfk=MdfTjutHfGh0+=301G7ffOeefCPP8DBLcapzGt77A@mail.gmail.com>
Get Joe on the  forum to extrapolate .

On Monday, July 22, 2019, James Glinski <[email protected]> wrote:

> Diagrams not rhetoric .something real ?.
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> On Monday, July 22, 2019, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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>> Shit on end of stick (descriptiive eh) better the shit is cold rather
>> than not as it stinks a lot less
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[19/28] Re: My question to the whole group !

2019-07-23T03:24:23-07:00 · Douglas Konzen <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Shit on end of stick means both the piece of shit stuck onto the end of stick
It is also the piece of shit holdinng tbe stick waving it in front of a dumbshit tempting tbe dumbshit with horseshit.
Just want.make that shit clear.haha
Let me state something , i give a rat ass about the sun except if i use solar cells  On EV gray motor RV is the ac equivalent of it  so built one and generate your own data , built a PM Rotor for it and find paradise lost ! 

Yess ! better than sex ! 

(H) 

---In [email protected], <eagleseeone@...> wrote :

 Given this is the forum of Grays Cold Electricity car engine.....
 I dont believe any one of you know an antagonistic shit on a stick fuck about it.
 

 as greenrevolution says  Show Me the Data...  How does the Sun produce Electricity Kone   anyone?