Fwd: Re: Magnetoelectric vs Electromagnetic

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From: 	Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
Subject: 	Re: Magnetoelectric vs Electromagnetic
To: 	Bert Pool <[email protected]>, Bob Paddock 
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Bert, Bob and all,  remember back a few years when NASA was speculating 
over a possibly space craft that could travel of near LUMINAL velocity 
by navigating in these huge magnetic tubes of force.  Along for the ride 
so to speak.    Now we know for a fact that Science has the ability to 
convert magnetic flux into photon power which is what my whole research 
has been about..     This is the reason for the NASA flux tube mapping 
operation.

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrCwOJkD4VcixgA5y8PxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=magnetic+flux+tube+mapping+by+NASA+satellite&fr=yhs-pty-pty_converter&hspart=pty&hsimp=yhs-pty_converter

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/30oct_ftes/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_tube

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_transfer_event

The space craft extracts its needed power from the magnetic flux tubs of 
force.



On 3/6/2019 4:26 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Yes!  Bert, Thought you would find that particular article rather 
> interesting.  After I read it, I thought about going to the Mr. 
> Peabody Way Back Machine and pull up all the writings by the Master 
> back then. Gee Wiz.
>
> Wilhelm Röntgen <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_R%C3%B6ntgen> 
> in 1888 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoelectric_effect   I 
> firmly believe that after we run full circle, we will realize that the 
> secret for what we are looking for is in the DIELECTRIC.   Hmmmmm.
>
> Norm
>
> On 3/6/2019 10:58 AM, Bert Pool wrote:
>>
>> Norm, all, that first article blew my mind!  I was wondering why I 
>> wasn't taught about the magnetoelectric effect back in my electronic 
>> school days, and then I saw that the scientific research references 
>> on this work only came about sometime around the year 2000 - 
>> practically new work, and long after my school days!
>>
>> So, moving a dielectric material through an electrostatic field 
>> causes the dielectric to be come magnetized!  I would assume that the 
>> magnetic field is only generated while the dielectric (or conversely, 
>> the electrostatic field) is moving?  And the magnetic field 
>> disappears (probably) when the relative movement stops?
>>
>> Norm, remember the PZT piezo disks you and Joel used with the MRA?
>>
>> Experiment: Take one of the PZT disks and mount it on a plastic or 
>> fiberglass arbor so it can be spun around its axis, kind of like a 
>> phonograph record.  Place a conductive metallic electrode above part 
>> of the piezo and one conductive metal electrode below, and apply an 
>> adjustable H.V d.c. electrostatic field to the plates.  You now have 
>> a moving piezo dielectric which is spinning through a static electric 
>> field.  You can easily measure whether a magnetic field is being 
>> produced by the dielectric with a simple magnetic compass or Hall 
>> effect sensor.  Note:  you'll probably have to grind the silver 
>> contact surfaces off both sides of the PZT piezo so that the spinning 
>> silver conductors don't screw with the creation of the dielectric's 
>> magnetic field.
>>
>> It is an easy enough experiment to do.
>>
>> Step two is to lock the PZT disk in place, so it does NOT move.  
>> Replace the single top metal electrode with a series of pie-slice 
>> shapeed electrodes arranged in a disk shape (kind of like a sliced 
>> pie, with the metal pie slices separated with a small gap).  You also 
>> replace the lower electrode with a similar series of pie-slice 
>> electrodes. Instead of rotating the PZT disk, you instead 
>> sequentially charge/discharge the pie segments of the electrostatic 
>> disks.  You would, thus, in effect, be creating a *rotating 
>> electrostatic field*!
>>
>> The obvious question now, is whether you would then be measuring a 
>> rotating magnetic field above the PZT disk?  As far as I know, there 
>> is no limit as to how fast you could sequentially charge the metal 
>> disk segments; in other words you could create a phenomenally fast 
>> rotating electrostatic field, and since there is no CURRENT flowing, 
>> that I can see, there likely is not a counter-emf force you have to 
>> fight!
>>
>> Bert
>>
>>
>> On 3/3/2019 8:57 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoelectric_effect
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_field
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetostatics
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatics
>>>
>>> Bert, If we are to fully understand AG and EMP, we need to 
>>> understand the subtle differences from normal.
>>>
>>> The current debate is how to shield against EMP and Space Radiation, 
>>> magnetic.  Pay particular attention to the first topic, especially 
>>> magnetostrictive and piezo materials
>>>
>>>