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Doug,

More ingenious solutions to everyday parts replication, love your
style.  What is the resistance added to the system with the Nichrome
wire?  Any impedance in a resonant system will widen the Q like pulling
up two sliders on an EQ vs one.  Most brushes are a compromise in this
respect concerning wear and temperature vs Siemens of conductivity. 
However, one thing I don't find mentioned anywhere is hole conduction vs
electrons.  I don't think they work the same as often semiconductors are
superior for holes.  In this respect one may have a new look at Tesla's
claim that graphite is superior conductor of aetheric energy.  Nichrome
wire could fall into a similar category of a preference for holes and
therefor have a higher Q for this energy than copper, who knows...

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Hi Mick
Before thiz favoritte brush materiali was the silicone coated thousands of very thin wire stranded "noodle" wire they zell in hobby stores to hookup battery supplies in RC  carz or  planes.  Regular copper wire does not work well as a brusb against the copper commutator  it doesnt let instantaneous power throuvb very well. I have three spooks of Nichrome 32ga to make resistors, it seems to work best so far 
Kone

DougYou have a complex technical demand, regarding your commutators.I wish I knew more about the mechanical requirements of your "brushes"Brushes can be made from graphite, sinterized graphite bronze, and all kinds of weird stuff in between, depending on the rigidity, and accuracy also, of the armature segments of copper.I have made up quite a number of these prototype units for timing all kinds of gizmos, because I had to switch high current on and off reliably before solid state components, and for me, the knowledge how to use them.Also they were needed at 3:00  in the morning to be magic by 7:30 am crew call. I used epoxy and wood saw dust, sections of large diameter, and thickness, of copper pipe, cut with the band saw from the end, when the centre was filled with epoxy, then turned it on the metal lathe. I have used all sorts of brushes and if possible, their brush holders, scavanged from power tools, and appliances, I would find on the streets of the big city, or of course scrap yards, and salvage shops.It was my stock, and trade for making robots, space ships, and science fiction objects that didn't yet exist, but still had to appear to "work" and do something.Now, you have been doing amazing work with your apparatus.What do you think might make it better, if you had access to it?I don't suggest you burden yourself with  tons of machinery, and tools, as I have done.That leads to a whole bag of worms just coping with the logistics of space and place, in a warm, dry atmosphere, to the point of hardly being able to get anything done, just dealing with infrastructure shit.I am not sure of the solution, but it would be good to work together, somehow, pooling talents, and resources.A thought. Cheers Warren


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  On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 12:59 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Mick
Before thiz favoritte brush materiali was the silicone coated thousands of very thin wire stranded "noodle" wire they zell in hobby stores to hookup battery supplies in RC carz or planes. Regular copper wire does not work well as a brusb against the copper commutator it doesnt let instantaneous power throuvb very well. I have three spooks of Nichrome 32ga to make resistors, it seems to work best so far 
Kone
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The 32ga Ni Chrome brush wire just broke...this stuff not strong enough, my commitator not smooth but instead copper tape glued on top tbe urethane foam disc. I am going back to a hall effevt tripping a mosfet gor themotor co timing, and will use this brush commutator for peak coil shorting of the generator winds sharing the corewithotor coils.as this wad original pla, to use this brush commutatortodocoik shorting since it is such low resistance.
Kone

Hi Warrem
Very Fred fFlntstone i am doing now idea is to do peak coil shotring switching with this brush commutator it justneeds to last an hour or so for experimemts to get some numbers   Going bavk to hall efcect and mosfet for driving motor half of the spilt coils on ssme core, then use brushcommutaor for thepeak coil shorting onveneratorwinds on the split- coil wound core.
At least Igot a top speed of 1600rpm plus input around 300ma at 12v input for motorcoils so now need to match or exceed that using halls and mosfet.
Peak coil shorting of the generator winds likes brush commutators since such low resistance that way  and hyper spikes dont blow up e erything solid state.
Kone

DougIf they sell short bits of bigger diameter copper pipe, like 2" or so, there are possibly ABS fittings that may allow you make a really good solid assembly of thicker copper sectors, along with epoxy, mixed with very fine wood sanding saw dust.The trick is to use a band of something outside, like a drink bottle, perhaps, that will give a super smooth outside surface for real brushes, sitting in proper plastic brush holders, to glide against, when used as a mold, and removed.It may be a bit finicky using a jewelers' coping saw to hand cut the sectors out of copper pipe, but it does work pretty well in the kitchen.Epoxy is not smelly and won't annoy the neighbours, as you know.The very fine teeth of a jewelers' saw means that you don't need a superb vise, or anything, to do good work, cutting the copper pipe.Try to rough up the copper pipe pipe with coarse sand paper inside to help the epoxy to stick, but, you know that, along with soldering the leads, before sticking down, so the heat won't bother the adhesion.
Keep at it! The experiment seems to be successful, so far, giving you what you want to know. I hope.Cheers Warren
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  On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 5:45 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warrem
Very Fred fFlntstone i am doing now idea is to do peak coil shotring switching with this brush commutator it justneeds to last an hour or so for experimemts to get some numbers Going bavk to hall efcect and mosfet for driving motor half of the spilt coils on ssme core, then use brushcommutaor for thepeak coil shorting onveneratorwinds on the split- coil wound core.
At least Igot a top speed of 1600rpm plus input around 300ma at 12v input for motorcoils so now need to match or exceed that using halls and mosfet.
Peak coil shorting of the generator winds likes brush commutators since such low resistance that way and hyper spikes dont blow up e erything solid state.
Kone
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Hi Warren
I made a few copper commutators from copper pipe back in Seattle, i found abs plastic pipe exact same diameter so cut the teeth out of pipe then cut tbe abs to fit between have photos omewhere...
Also i bought about 16 copper starter motor commutators on ebay too they had 15 or 17 slots usually i used these too... anyways just went back to hall effects and a single mosfet works great...
Kone

DougI am pretty sure you are all over that, but for the benefit of all, thought others might like to know how it can be done too.Cheers Warren
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Hi Warren
I made a few copper commutators from copper pipe back in Seattle, i found abs plastic pipe exact same diameter so cut the teeth out of pipe then cut tbe abs to fit between have photos omewhere...
Also i bought about 16 copper starter motor commutators on ebay too they had 15 or 17 slots usually i used these too... anyways just went back to hall effects and a single mosfet works great...
Kone 
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For all of you that have built or are considering building an Adams 
Motor, please be advised that of the three that I built, only the one 
using the original sparking brush commutation showed any signs of 
Over-Unity.  It all goes back to what Kone has found in that the 
sparking event is where the O/U traits manifest.

On 2/11/2019 6:41 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Doug
>
> Youtube flipped open a Robert Adams description of his 800% efficient 
> motor, by Patrick Kelly about a year old.
> I had not read that before.
> It has some interesting information, and deals with similar 
> architectural solutions to your rotors, that might be helpful.
> Your brushes/ and electronic switching highbred  seems pretty good.
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>     On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 12:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Hi Warren
>     I made a few copper commutators from copper pipe back in Seattle,
>     i found abs plastic pipe exact same diameter so cut the teeth out
>     of pipe then cut tbe abs to fit between have photos omewhere...
>     Also i bought about 16 copper starter motor commutators on ebay
>     too they had 15 or 17 slots usually i used these too... anyways
>     just went back to hall effects and a single mosfet works great...
>     Kone
>
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2bPDDWqSvM&feature=youtu.be

http://antigravitypower.tripod.com/RobertAdams/

After reading the NEXUS article, I ordered the original plan package 
from New Zealand and built the original motor.

On 2/11/2019 6:58 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> For all of you that have built or are considering building an Adams 
> Motor, please be advised that of the three that I built, only the one 
> using the original sparking brush commutation showed any signs of 
> Over-Unity.  It all goes back to what Kone has found in that the 
> sparking event is where the O/U traits manifest.
>
> On 2/11/2019 6:41 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Hi Doug
>>
>> Youtube flipped open a Robert Adams description of his 800% efficient 
>> motor, by Patrick Kelly about a year old.
>> I had not read that before.
>> It has some interesting information, and deals with similar 
>> architectural solutions to your rotors, that might be helpful.
>> Your brushes/ and electronic switching highbred  seems pretty good.
>> Cheers Warren
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>     On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 12:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Warren
>>     I made a few copper commutators from copper pipe back in Seattle,
>>     i found abs plastic pipe exact same diameter so cut the teeth out
>>     of pipe then cut tbe abs to fit between have photos omewhere...
>>     Also i bought about 16 copper starter motor commutators on ebay
>>     too they had 15 or 17 slots usually i used these too... anyways
>>     just went back to hall effects and a single mosfet works great...
>>     Kone
>>
>

Hi Warren
Yes i have read through that Patrick Kelley Adams motor description and teally good youtub video too.
It is very good I like how he switches out the generator coils...
The most recent Adams motor was supposed to have 400v input and water cooled coils....
I got 1850rpm today amps in 350ma at18vdc
Also did 850rpm And 130ma and 6.3vdc...when grabbing shaft to slow, amp draw drops so that is good...
Kone

Hi DougYoutube flipped open a Robert Adams description of his 800% efficient motor, by Patrick Kelly about a year old.I had not read that before.It has some interesting information, and deals with similar architectural solutions to your rotors, that might be helpful.Your brushes/ and electronic switching highbred  seems pretty good.Cheers Warren

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  On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 12:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren
I made a few copper commutators from copper pipe back in Seattle, i found abs plastic pipe exact same diameter so cut the teeth out of pipe then cut tbe abs to fit between have photos omewhere...
Also i bought about 16 copper starter motor commutators on ebay too they had 15 or 17 slots usually i used these too... anyways just went back to hall effects and a single mosfet works great...
Kone 
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NormanThat is a bitch that Patrick Kelly is wrong! So! Again we see this spark event as the magic.Hello Zilano, Don Smith, and Kapanadze! Argh!But I trust your observation.Magnetos, make and break ignition, and of course the entire Tesla, and plasma events all have something in common.I keep trying with it. Maybe that is what is going on with my daisy chain of big DC motors?It worked, in front several people, though no experts, they saw ten big motors run for well over half and hour from a little 5 amp 12 volt gel cell at full frigging speed, any one of them capable of chewing away on 5 amps, by itself, let alone increasing in voltage down the line of motors.I need to return to that one, since it is so simple, and requires no great skill to put together quickly.I need a clean long table and some proper motor mounts, so they don't go flying off the table ,again, on start up, breaking loose the permanent magnets, as they bounce off the floor.Freeze thaw cycles are hard on the adhesives used to bond the magnets, too.
Take them all apart, re-glue the magnets down, lubricate the bearings, and check the brushes.Mount those motors, barn wood mounts, if needed.Test the diode bridgesHook them all up.Cheers Warren
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  On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 8:03 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

For all of you that have built or are considering building an Adams Motor, please be advised that of the three that I built, only the one using the original sparking brush commutation showed any signs of Over-Unity.  It all goes back to what Kone has found in that the sparking event is where the O/U traits manifest.
 
 On 2/11/2019 6:41 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Doug
 Youtube flipped open a Robert Adams description of his 800% efficient motor, by Patrick Kelly about a year old. I had not read that before. It has some interesting information, and deals with similar architectural solutions to your rotors, that might be helpful. Your brushes/ and electronic switching highbred  seems pretty good. Cheers Warren
 
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  On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 12:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
Hi Warren
 I made a few copper commutators from copper pipe back in Seattle, i found abs plastic pipe exact same diameter so cut the teeth out of pipe then cut tbe abs to fit between have photos omewhere...
 Also i bought about 16 copper starter motor commutators on ebay too they had 15 or 17 slots usually i used these too... anyways just went back to hall effects and a single mosfet works great...
 Kone 
       
   
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NormanAfter spending a couple of months in New Zealand, I have difficulty believing in the paranoid vision being projected around the Robert Adams aura.New Zealanders are even nicer than Canadians to each other. They really are!I can testify that they were more than nice to this crazy middle aged foreigner riding around up mountains on horseback, and getting himself thrown off, and nearly killed.Heroic work by volunteers, fording rivers, flying rescue helicopter. Ambulance four hours through the night in a deluge to intensive care hospital.10 days in intensive care ward, with exquisitely fine care.The people I met, and the day, to day thinking, I perceived, does not compute with the Robert Adams paranoia tale.New Zealanders as a group, are simply, matter of fact, scary gutsy.Nobody is going to bully them.With that inspiration, I have no hesitation offering a free proctology exam with my hay fork, if ever given such a threat to stop my experiments.Now in the US, where organized crime seems ordinary, and in fact, normal, on every level, I would not be so serene, and confident.Cheers Warren

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  On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 9:40 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2bPDDWqSvM&feature=youtu.be
 
http://antigravitypower.tripod.com/RobertAdams/
 
After reading the NEXUS article, I ordered the original plan package from New Zealand and built the original motor.
 
 On 2/11/2019 6:58 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
For all of you that have built or are considering building an Adams Motor, please be advised that of the three that I built, only the one using the original sparking brush commutation showed any signs of Over-Unity.  It all goes back to what Kone has found in that the sparking event is where the O/U traits manifest.
 
 On 2/11/2019 6:41 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Doug
 Youtube flipped open a Robert Adams description of his 800% efficient motor, by Patrick Kelly about a year old. I had not read that before. It has some interesting information, and deals with similar architectural solutions to your rotors, that might be helpful. Your brushes/ and electronic switching highbred  seems pretty good. Cheers Warren
 
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  On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 12:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
Hi Warren
 I made a few copper commutators from copper pipe back in Seattle, i found abs plastic pipe exact same diameter so cut the teeth out of pipe then cut tbe abs to fit between have photos  omewhere...
 Also i bought about 16 copper starter motor commutators on ebay too they had 15 or 17 slots usually i used these too... anyways just went back to hall effects and a single mosfet works  great...
 Kone 
       
   
  
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---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2bPDDWqSvM&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2bPDDWqSvM&feature=youtu.be
 http://antigravitypower.tripod.com/RobertAdams/ http://antigravitypower.tripod.com/RobertAdams/
 After reading the NEXUS article, I ordered the original plan package from New Zealand and built the original motor.

 On 2/11/2019 6:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 For all of you that have built or are considering building an Adams Motor, please be advised that of the three that I built, only the one using the original sparking brush commutation showed any signs of Over-Unity.  It all goes back to what Kone has found in that the sparking event is where the O/U traits manifest.

 On 2/11/2019 6:41 AM, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Doug
 Youtube flipped open a Robert Adams description of his 800% efficient motor, by Patrick Kelly about a year old.
 I had not read that before.
 It has some interesting information, and deals with similar architectural solutions to your rotors, that might be helpful.
 Your brushes/ and electronic switching highbred  seems pretty good.
 Cheers Warren
 
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 On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 12:30 PM, konehead@... mailto:konehead@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:

   Hi Warren
 I made a few copper commutators from copper pipe back in Seattle, i found abs plastic pipe exact same diameter so cut the teeth out of pipe then cut tbe abs to fit between have photos omewhere...
 Also i bought about 16 copper starter motor commutators on ebay too they had 15 or 17 slots usually i used these too... anyways just went back to hall effects and a single mosfet works great...
 Kone

Hi Warren.
For car or boat motor woyld be fun to have 6 or 10 of those dc motors arranged  in cluster, all shaftz connected tovether witb automotive toothed timing belt in serpentine fashion and central 1" thick central drive shaft they all connect to, and do the fwbr over brushes  trick from one connevting to other
Kone

DougThe boat solution is doable I think for my 20 canal boat that only requires 6 hp. I would take out the Yanmar that I just put in if I can get a self runner running that hp.Just two tread mill 3hp would do it but one needs the line of ten to make the magic energy. There is room for all of them, since many can fit in a plastic milk crate as they are only wire connected to anything and act as generators of sorts.Back to the bench on this one!Cheers Warren

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  On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 3:32 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren.
For car or boat motor woyld be fun to have 6 or 10 of those dc motors arranged in cluster, all shaftz connected tovether witb automotive toothed timing belt in serpentine fashion and central 1" thick central drive shaft they all connect to, and do the fwbr over brushes trick from one connevting to other
Kone
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Warren!

"So! Again we see this spark event as the magic.Hello Zilano, Don Smith, and Kapanadze! Arg"
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    Den måndag 11 februari 2019 16:14:14 CET, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> skrev:  
 
     
Norman
That is a bitch that Patrick Kelly is wrong! So! Again we see this spark event as the magic.Hello Zilano, Don Smith, and Kapanadze! Argh!But I trust your observation.Magnetos, make and break ignition, and of course the entire Tesla, and plasma events all have something in common.I keep trying with it. Maybe that is what is going on with my daisy chain of big DC motors?It worked, in front several people, though no experts, they saw ten big motors run for well over half and hour from a little 5 amp 12 volt gel cell at full frigging speed, any one of them capable of chewing away on 5 amps, by itself, let alone increasing in voltage down the line of motors.I need to return to that one, since it is so simple, and requires no great skill to put together quickly.I need a clean long table and some proper motor mounts, so they don't go flying off the table ,again, on start up, breaking loose the permanent magnets, as they bounce off the floor.Freeze thaw cycles are hard on the adhesives used to bond the magnets, too.
Take them all apart, re-glue the magnets down, lubricate the bearings, and check the brushes.Mount those motors, barn wood mounts, if needed.Test the diode bridgesHook them all up.Cheers Warren
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  On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 8:03 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

For all of you that have built or are considering building an Adams Motor, please be advised that of the three that I built, only the one using the original sparking brush commutation showed any signs of Over-Unity.  It all goes back to what Kone has found in that the sparking event is where the O/U traits manifest.
 
 On 2/11/2019 6:41 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Doug
 Youtube flipped open a Robert Adams description of his 800% efficient motor, by Patrick Kelly about a year old. I had not read that before. It has some interesting information, and deals with similar architectural solutions to your rotors, that might be helpful. Your brushes/ and electronic switching highbred  seems pretty good. Cheers Warren
 
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  On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 12:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
Hi Warren
 I made a few copper commutators from copper pipe back in Seattle, i found abs plastic pipe exact same diameter so cut the teeth out of pipe then cut tbe abs to fit between have photos omewhere...
 Also i bought about 16 copper starter motor commutators on ebay too they had 15 or 17 slots usually i used these too... anyways just went back to hall effects and a single mosfet works great...
 Kone 
       
   
    
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HermesThat is both interesting, and unfortunately, unobtainable, without internet hook up, and being tied into the system.Not that I am opposed to either, I just like to own the machines I use, to do with them as I feel like.Why, I might not use them as intended. I might just cut them up and only use part of them, for something I might be more interested in.
It feels like kow-towing to a dictator, when you purchase in this manner.Wow! Here we are, looking at a practical fusion device, perhaps, and bitching about how it is presented!The World has looked forward to fusion as an answer, but now we have it on our doorstep, it comes with a demigod. Bummer!It is bad enough that my computer, for the most part, no longer belongs to me. Every program wants to nickel and dime me every month just to use it like some bad drug habit. I hate that!It is like some cost accountant now has me listed as a perpetual account receivable, that can be used to kite some massive financial transactions, and other bull shit, when I only want to use my computer as another tool.Cheers Warren
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  On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 5:47 AM, Hermes Atar Trismegistus [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Warren!

"So! Again we see this spark event as the magic.Hello Zilano, Don Smith, and Kapanadze! Arg"
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    Den måndag 11 februari 2019 16:14:14 CET, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> skrev:  
 
     
Norman
That is a bitch that Patrick Kelly is wrong! So! Again we see this spark event as the magic.Hello Zilano, Don Smith, and Kapanadze! Argh!But I trust your observation.Magnetos, make and break ignition, and of course the entire Tesla, and plasma events all have something in common.I keep trying with it. Maybe that is what is going on with my daisy chain of big DC motors?It worked, in front several people, though no experts, they saw ten big motors run for well over half and hour from a little 5 amp 12 volt gel cell at full frigging speed, any one of them capable of chewing away on 5 amps, by itself, let alone increasing in voltage down the line of motors.I need to return to that one, since it is so simple, and requires no great skill to put together quickly.I need a clean long table and some proper motor mounts, so they don't go flying off the table ,again, on start up, breaking loose the permanent magnets, as they bounce off the floor.Freeze thaw cycles are hard on the adhesives used to bond the magnets, too.
Take them all apart, re-glue the magnets down, lubricate the bearings, and check the brushes.Mount those motors, barn wood mounts, if needed.Test the diode bridgesHook them all up.Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 8:03 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

For all of you that have built or are considering building an Adams Motor, please be advised that of the three that I built, only the one using the original sparking brush commutation showed any signs of Over-Unity.  It all goes back to what Kone has found in that the sparking event is where the O/U traits manifest.
 
 On 2/11/2019 6:41 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Doug
 Youtube flipped open a Robert Adams description of his 800% efficient motor, by Patrick Kelly about a year old. I had not read that before. It has some interesting information, and deals with similar architectural solutions to your rotors, that might be helpful. Your brushes/ and electronic switching highbred  seems pretty good. Cheers Warren
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 12:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
Hi Warren
 I made a few copper commutators from copper pipe back in Seattle, i found abs plastic pipe exact same diameter so cut the teeth out of pipe then cut tbe abs to fit between have photos omewhere...
 Also i bought about 16 copper starter motor commutators on ebay too they had 15 or 17 slots usually i used these too... anyways just went back to hall effects and a single mosfet works great...
 Kone 
       
   
    
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