Re: [EVGRAY] Environmental Health Trust 5G and the IOT: Scientific Overview of Human Health Risks - Environmental Health Trust

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 5:30 PM Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:

> https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/

https://microwavenews.com/ keeps up on these studies.

6G (not a typo):

https://www.eetasia.com/news/article/18091706-6g-being-discussed

Warnings as far back as 18 years ago:

"Cell Phones - Convenience Or 21st Century Plague?"
Compiled by Dr. Nick Begich and [the late] James Roderick
Copyright Begich & Roderick July 20007-26-00

https://rense.com/general2/cell.htm

https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
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You guys will just have to excuse me for  this injection of my opinion 
in regards to the proliferation of high power ever-increasing 
frequencies in our environment.    Before I completed my DeVry 
Electronics Course, 1953, nightly, we listened to the old XERF, Del Rio, 
TX  on an old Stromberg Carlson receiver in our living room.  The only 
folks exposed to the 50KW, 250KW (licensed to 500KW) Am / FM 1570khz 
output were the residence around the Del Rio area. Single transmitter 
covering the entire 48 states at the time and most of Canada and down to 
South America. With cell phones we have seen the expansion of the G's, 
4G now up to 5G which means that with increase frequencies we have a 10 
fold increase in number of transmitter sites to provide the necessary 
coverage. Interesting that you read the history then form your opinion. See

http://vvchc.net/marker/radio.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHRF-FM

https://www.electronicdesign.com/communications/understanding-wireless-range-calculations

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency

By operating in the frequency range of 15ghz there will be an exponential number of new high power millimeter wave transmitters that exposes everyone to the now proven harmful effects.

The old ham radio buffs and Engineers on here (Bob Paddock) and Hector will appreciate this input.

Opinions are like Ass Holes, we all have one.    Norm


On 12/27/2018 4:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
>
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>

Please refer to the PDF, FCC Fsct Sheet

On 12/28/2018 8:39 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> You guys will just have to excuse me for  this injection of my opinion 
> in regards to the proliferation of high power ever-increasing 
> frequencies in our environment.    Before I completed my DeVry 
> Electronics Course, 1953, nightly, we listened to the old XERF, Del 
> Rio, TX  on an old Stromberg Carlson receiver in our living room.  The 
> only folks exposed to the 50KW, 250KW (licensed to 500KW) Am / FM 
> 1570khz output were the residence around the Del Rio area. Single 
> transmitter covering the entire 48 states at the time and most of 
> Canada and down to South America. With cell phones we have seen the 
> expansion of the G's, 4G now up to 5G which means that with increase 
> frequencies we have a 10 fold increase in number of transmitter sites 
> to provide the necessary coverage. Interesting that you read the 
> history then form your opinion. See
>
> http://vvchc.net/marker/radio.html
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHRF-FM
>
> https://www.electronicdesign.com/communications/understanding-wireless-range-calculations
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency
>
> By operating in the frequency range of 15ghz there will be an exponential number of new high power millimeter wave transmitters that exposes everyone to the now proven harmful effects.
>
> The old ham radio buffs and Engineers on here (Bob Paddock) and Hector will appreciate this input.
>
> Opinions are like Ass Holes, we all have one.    Norm
>
>
> On 12/27/2018 4:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>> https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
>>
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>>

Millimetre-length electromagnetic waves were first investigated in the 
1890s by Indian scientist Jagadish Chandra Bose 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose>.   Now this is 
really going back a long time as to the problem identification and alert.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose

On 12/28/2018 8:52 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Please refer to the PDF, FCC Fsct Sheet
>
> On 12/28/2018 8:39 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> You guys will just have to excuse me for  this injection of my 
>> opinion in regards to the proliferation of high power ever-increasing 
>> frequencies in our environment.    Before I completed my DeVry 
>> Electronics Course, 1953, nightly, we listened to the old XERF, Del 
>> Rio, TX  on an old Stromberg Carlson receiver in our living room.  
>> The only folks exposed to the 50KW, 250KW (licensed to 500KW) Am / FM 
>> 1570khz output were the residence around the Del Rio area. Single 
>> transmitter covering the entire 48 states at the time and most of 
>> Canada and down to South America. With cell phones we have seen the 
>> expansion of the G's, 4G now up to 5G which means that with increase 
>> frequencies we have a 10 fold increase in number of transmitter sites 
>> to provide the necessary coverage. Interesting that you read the 
>> history then form your opinion. See
>>
>> http://vvchc.net/marker/radio.html
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHRF-FM
>>
>> https://www.electronicdesign.com/communications/understanding-wireless-range-calculations
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency
>>
>> By operating in the frequency range of 15ghz there will be an exponential number of new high power millimeter wave transmitters that exposes everyone to the now proven harmful effects.
>>
>> The old ham radio buffs and Engineers on here (Bob Paddock) and Hector will appreciate this input.
>>
>> Opinions are like Ass Holes, we all have one.    Norm
>>
>>
>> On 12/27/2018 4:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
>>>
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>>>

This for Steven Elswick,

During a November 1894 (or 1895^[24] 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24> 
) public demonstration at Town Hall of Kolkata, Bose ignited gunpowder 
and rang a bell at a distance using millimetre range wavelength 
microwaves.^[25] 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-iiscbose-25> 
Lieutenant Governor Sir William Mackenzie witnessed Bose's demonstration 
in the Kolkata Town Hall. Bose wrote in a Bengali essay, /Adrisya Alok/ 
(Invisible Light), "The invisible light can easily pass through brick 
walls, buildings etc. Therefore, messages can be transmitted by means of 
it without the mediation of wires."^[24] 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24> 


Bose's first scientific paper, "On polarisation of electric rays by 
double-refracting crystals" was communicated to the Asiatic Society of 
Bengal in May 1895, within a year of Lodge's paper. His second paper was 
communicated to the Royal Society of London by Lord Rayleigh in October 
1895. In December 1895, the London journal /Electrician/ (Vol. 36) 
published Bose's paper, "On a new electro-polariscope". At that time, 
the word /coherer/, coined by Lodge, was used in the English-speaking 
world for Hertzian wave receivers or detectors. The /Electrician/ 
readily commented on Bose's coherer. (December 1895). /The Englishman/ 
(18 January 1896) quoted from the /Electrician/ and commented as follows:

    Should Professor Bose succeed in perfecting and patenting his
    ‘Coherer’, we may in time see the whole system of coast lighting
    throughout the navigable world revolutionised by a Bengali scientist
    working single handed in our Presidency College Laboratory.

Bose planned to "perfect his coherer" but never thought of patenting 
it.^[24] 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24> 


<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jagadish_Chandra_Bose_microwave_apparatus.png> 

Diagram of microwave receiver and transmitter apparatus, from Bose's 
1897 paper.

Bose went to London on a lecture tour in 1896 and met Italian inventor 
Guglielmo Marconi <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guglielmo_Marconi>, 
who had been developing a radio wave wireless telegraphy 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_telegraphy> system for over a 
year and was trying to market it to the British post service. In an 
interview, Bose expressed his disinterest in commercial telegraphy and 
suggested others use his research work. In 1899, Bose announced the 
development of a "/iron-mercury-iron coherer 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherer> with telephone detector/" in a 
paper presented at the Royal Society 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society>, London.^[26] 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-pkbandyo-26> 


On 12/28/2018 9:12 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Millimetre-length electromagnetic waves were first investigated in the 
> 1890s by Indian scientist Jagadish Chandra Bose 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose>.   Now this is 
> really going back a long time as to the problem identification and alert.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose
>
> On 12/28/2018 8:52 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Please refer to the PDF, FCC Fsct Sheet
>>
>> On 12/28/2018 8:39 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> You guys will just have to excuse me for  this injection of my 
>>> opinion in regards to the proliferation of high power 
>>> ever-increasing frequencies in our environment.    Before I 
>>> completed my DeVry Electronics Course, 1953, nightly, we listened to 
>>> the old XERF, Del Rio, TX  on an old Stromberg Carlson receiver in 
>>> our living room.  The only folks exposed to the 50KW, 250KW 
>>> (licensed to 500KW) Am / FM 1570khz output were the residence around 
>>> the Del Rio area. Single transmitter covering the entire 48 states 
>>> at the time and most of Canada and down to South America. With cell 
>>> phones we have seen the expansion of the G's, 4G now up to 5G which 
>>> means that with increase frequencies we have a 10 fold increase in 
>>> number of transmitter sites to provide the necessary coverage. 
>>> Interesting that you read the history then form your opinion. See
>>>
>>> http://vvchc.net/marker/radio.html
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHRF-FM
>>>
>>> https://www.electronicdesign.com/communications/understanding-wireless-range-calculations
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency
>>>
>>> By operating in the frequency range of 15ghz there will be an exponential number of new high power millimeter wave transmitters that exposes everyone to the now proven harmful effects.
>>>
>>> The old ham radio buffs and Engineers on here (Bob Paddock) and Hector will appreciate this input.
>>>
>>> Opinions are like Ass Holes, we all have one.    Norm
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/27/2018 4:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
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>>>>

Of interest here is Tesla's work with wireless transmission, see Page 
25, Colorado Springs Notes. 1899 Houston St. Lab experimentation with 
wireless Telegraphy.

On 12/28/2018 9:27 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> This for Steven Elswick,
>
> During a November 1894 (or 1895^[24] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24> 
> ) public demonstration at Town Hall of Kolkata, Bose ignited gunpowder 
> and rang a bell at a distance using millimetre range wavelength 
> microwaves.^[25] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-iiscbose-25> 
> Lieutenant Governor Sir William Mackenzie witnessed Bose's 
> demonstration in the Kolkata Town Hall. Bose wrote in a Bengali essay, 
> /Adrisya Alok/ (Invisible Light), "The invisible light can easily pass 
> through brick walls, buildings etc. Therefore, messages can be 
> transmitted by means of it without the mediation of wires."^[24] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24> 
>
>
> Bose's first scientific paper, "On polarisation of electric rays by 
> double-refracting crystals" was communicated to the Asiatic Society of 
> Bengal in May 1895, within a year of Lodge's paper. His second paper 
> was communicated to the Royal Society of London by Lord Rayleigh in 
> October 1895. In December 1895, the London journal /Electrician/ (Vol. 
> 36) published Bose's paper, "On a new electro-polariscope". At that 
> time, the word /coherer/, coined by Lodge, was used in the 
> English-speaking world for Hertzian wave receivers or detectors. The 
> /Electrician/ readily commented on Bose's coherer. (December 1895). 
> /The Englishman/ (18 January 1896) quoted from the /Electrician/ and 
> commented as follows:
>
>     Should Professor Bose succeed in perfecting and patenting his
>     ‘Coherer’, we may in time see the whole system of coast lighting
>     throughout the navigable world revolutionised by a Bengali
>     scientist working single handed in our Presidency College Laboratory.
>
> Bose planned to "perfect his coherer" but never thought of patenting 
> it.^[24] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24> 
>
>
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jagadish_Chandra_Bose_microwave_apparatus.png> 
>
> Diagram of microwave receiver and transmitter apparatus, from Bose's 
> 1897 paper.
>
> Bose went to London on a lecture tour in 1896 and met Italian inventor 
> Guglielmo Marconi <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guglielmo_Marconi>, 
> who had been developing a radio wave wireless telegraphy 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_telegraphy> system for over 
> a year and was trying to market it to the British post service. In an 
> interview, Bose expressed his disinterest in commercial telegraphy and 
> suggested others use his research work. In 1899, Bose announced the 
> development of a "/iron-mercury-iron coherer 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherer> with telephone detector/" in 
> a paper presented at the Royal Society 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society>, London.^[26] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-pkbandyo-26> 
>
>
> On 12/28/2018 9:12 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Millimetre-length electromagnetic waves were first investigated in 
>> the 1890s by Indian scientist Jagadish Chandra Bose 
>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose>. Now this is 
>> really going back a long time as to the problem identification and 
>> alert.
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose
>>
>> On 12/28/2018 8:52 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Please refer to the PDF, FCC Fsct Sheet
>>>
>>> On 12/28/2018 8:39 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You guys will just have to excuse me for  this injection of my 
>>>> opinion in regards to the proliferation of high power 
>>>> ever-increasing frequencies in our environment.    Before I 
>>>> completed my DeVry Electronics Course, 1953, nightly, we listened 
>>>> to the old XERF, Del Rio, TX on an old Stromberg Carlson receiver 
>>>> in our living room.  The only folks exposed to the 50KW, 250KW 
>>>> (licensed to 500KW) Am / FM 1570khz output were the residence 
>>>> around the Del Rio area. Single transmitter covering the entire 48 
>>>> states at the time and most of Canada and down to South America. 
>>>> With cell phones we have seen the expansion of the G's, 4G now up 
>>>> to 5G which means that with increase frequencies we have a 10 fold 
>>>> increase in number of transmitter sites to provide the necessary 
>>>> coverage. Interesting that you read the history then form your 
>>>> opinion. See
>>>>
>>>> http://vvchc.net/marker/radio.html
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHRF-FM
>>>>
>>>> https://www.electronicdesign.com/communications/understanding-wireless-range-calculations
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency
>>>>
>>>> By operating in the frequency range of 15ghz there will be an exponential number of new high power millimeter wave transmitters that exposes everyone to the now proven harmful effects.
>>>>
>>>> The old ham radio buffs and Engineers on here (Bob Paddock) and Hector will appreciate this input.
>>>>
>>>> Opinions are like Ass Holes, we all have one.    Norm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/27/2018 4:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherer

On 12/28/2018 9:27 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> This for Steven Elswick,
>
> During a November 1894 (or 1895^[24] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24> 
> ) public demonstration at Town Hall of Kolkata, Bose ignited gunpowder 
> and rang a bell at a distance using millimetre range wavelength 
> microwaves.^[25] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-iiscbose-25> 
> Lieutenant Governor Sir William Mackenzie witnessed Bose's 
> demonstration in the Kolkata Town Hall. Bose wrote in a Bengali essay, 
> /Adrisya Alok/ (Invisible Light), "The invisible light can easily pass 
> through brick walls, buildings etc. Therefore, messages can be 
> transmitted by means of it without the mediation of wires."^[24] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24> 
>
>
> Bose's first scientific paper, "On polarisation of electric rays by 
> double-refracting crystals" was communicated to the Asiatic Society of 
> Bengal in May 1895, within a year of Lodge's paper. His second paper 
> was communicated to the Royal Society of London by Lord Rayleigh in 
> October 1895. In December 1895, the London journal /Electrician/ (Vol. 
> 36) published Bose's paper, "On a new electro-polariscope". At that 
> time, the word /coherer/, coined by Lodge, was used in the 
> English-speaking world for Hertzian wave receivers or detectors. The 
> /Electrician/ readily commented on Bose's coherer. (December 1895). 
> /The Englishman/ (18 January 1896) quoted from the /Electrician/ and 
> commented as follows:
>
>     Should Professor Bose succeed in perfecting and patenting his
>     ‘Coherer’, we may in time see the whole system of coast lighting
>     throughout the navigable world revolutionised by a Bengali
>     scientist working single handed in our Presidency College Laboratory.
>
> Bose planned to "perfect his coherer" but never thought of patenting 
> it.^[24] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24> 
>
>
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jagadish_Chandra_Bose_microwave_apparatus.png> 
>
> Diagram of microwave receiver and transmitter apparatus, from Bose's 
> 1897 paper.
>
> Bose went to London on a lecture tour in 1896 and met Italian inventor 
> Guglielmo Marconi <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guglielmo_Marconi>, 
> who had been developing a radio wave wireless telegraphy 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_telegraphy> system for over 
> a year and was trying to market it to the British post service. In an 
> interview, Bose expressed his disinterest in commercial telegraphy and 
> suggested others use his research work. In 1899, Bose announced the 
> development of a "/iron-mercury-iron coherer 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherer> with telephone detector/" in 
> a paper presented at the Royal Society 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society>, London.^[26] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-pkbandyo-26> 
>
>
> On 12/28/2018 9:12 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Millimetre-length electromagnetic waves were first investigated in 
>> the 1890s by Indian scientist Jagadish Chandra Bose 
>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose>. Now this is 
>> really going back a long time as to the problem identification and 
>> alert.
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose
>>
>> On 12/28/2018 8:52 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Please refer to the PDF, FCC Fsct Sheet
>>>
>>> On 12/28/2018 8:39 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You guys will just have to excuse me for  this injection of my 
>>>> opinion in regards to the proliferation of high power 
>>>> ever-increasing frequencies in our environment.    Before I 
>>>> completed my DeVry Electronics Course, 1953, nightly, we listened 
>>>> to the old XERF, Del Rio, TX on an old Stromberg Carlson receiver 
>>>> in our living room.  The only folks exposed to the 50KW, 250KW 
>>>> (licensed to 500KW) Am / FM 1570khz output were the residence 
>>>> around the Del Rio area. Single transmitter covering the entire 48 
>>>> states at the time and most of Canada and down to South America. 
>>>> With cell phones we have seen the expansion of the G's, 4G now up 
>>>> to 5G which means that with increase frequencies we have a 10 fold 
>>>> increase in number of transmitter sites to provide the necessary 
>>>> coverage. Interesting that you read the history then form your 
>>>> opinion. See
>>>>
>>>> http://vvchc.net/marker/radio.html
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHRF-FM
>>>>
>>>> https://www.electronicdesign.com/communications/understanding-wireless-range-calculations
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency
>>>>
>>>> By operating in the frequency range of 15ghz there will be an exponential number of new high power millimeter wave transmitters that exposes everyone to the now proven harmful effects.
>>>>
>>>> The old ham radio buffs and Engineers on here (Bob Paddock) and Hector will appreciate this input.
>>>>
>>>> Opinions are like Ass Holes, we all have one.    Norm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/27/2018 4:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>

Norm,

Fusors are really cool.
http://www.fusor.net/doug-coulters-solar-power-star-in-a-jar/
What is your opinion concerning harvest of the extra electrons produced
by secondary emission as an energy potential to deliver more in than out?

What were the health issues raised from people living in Del Rio in
proximity to all the RF?

These higher frequencies deliver more energy upon the receiver but are
also much easier to block.  Most of the medical problems would come from
some sort of multipath into the tHz region where DNA is designed to
receive. Knowing they are using longitudinal modulation techniques with
the fast rise time digital has scary implications...  time will tell but
the inverse square law is definitely your friend.


On 12/28/2018 9:39 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> You guys will just have to excuse me for  this injection of my opinion
> in regards to the proliferation of high power ever-increasing
> frequencies in our environment.    Before I completed my DeVry
> Electronics Course, 1953, nightly, we listened to the old XERF, Del
> Rio, TX  on an old Stromberg Carlson receiver in our living room.  The
> only folks exposed to the 50KW, 250KW (licensed to 500KW) Am / FM
> 1570khz output were the residence around the Del Rio area. Single
> transmitter covering the entire 48 states at the time and most of
> Canada and down to South America. With cell phones we have seen the
> expansion of the G's, 4G now up to 5G which means that with increase
> frequencies we have a 10 fold increase in number of transmitter sites
> to provide the necessary coverage. Interesting that you read the
> history then form your opinion. See 
>
> http://vvchc.net/marker/radio.html
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHRF-FM
>
> https://www.electronicdesign.com/communications/understanding-wireless-range-calculations
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency
>
> By operating in the frequency range of 15ghz there will be an exponential number of new high power millimeter wave transmitters that exposes everyone to the now proven harmful effects.  
>
> The old ham radio buffs and Engineers on here (Bob Paddock) and Hector will appreciate this input.
>
> Opinions are like Ass Holes, we all have one.    Norm
>
>
> On 12/27/2018 4:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>> https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
>>
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It is called LiFi.


On Fri, Dec 28, 2018, 10:43 AM James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected] wrote:

>
>
> For local web and blue tooth why not lght it multiplexes well and we have
> fiber optic cables and you don't have to be sticking radio waves in your
> ear or bathing in them around your house .you can jam more in to light that
> other emw .and it doesn't hurt people .you could use the street lights and
> pourch lights in towns to broadcast .why go with harmful energy .?
>
> On Friday, December 28, 2018, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> This for Steven Elswick,
>>
>> During a November 1894 (or 1895[24]
>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24>)
>> public demonstration at Town Hall of Kolkata, Bose ignited gunpowder and
>> rang a bell at a distance using millimetre range wavelength microwaves.
>> [25]
>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-iiscbose-25>
>> Lieutenant Governor Sir William Mackenzie witnessed Bose's demonstration in
>> the Kolkata Town Hall. Bose wrote in a Bengali essay, *Adrisya Alok*
>> (Invisible Light), "The invisible light can easily pass through brick
>> walls, buildings etc. Therefore, messages can be transmitted by means of it
>> without the mediation of wires."[24]
>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24>
>>
>> Bose's first scientific paper, "On polarisation of electric rays by
>> double-refracting crystals" was communicated to the Asiatic Society of
>> Bengal in May 1895, within a year of Lodge's paper. His second paper was
>> communicated to the Royal Society of London by Lord Rayleigh in October
>> 1895. In December 1895, the London journal *Electrician* (Vol. 36)
>> published Bose's paper, "On a new electro-polariscope". At that time, the
>> word *coherer*, coined by Lodge, was used in the English-speaking world
>> for Hertzian wave receivers or detectors. The *Electrician* readily
>> commented on Bose's coherer. (December 1895). *The Englishman* (18
>> January 1896) quoted from the *Electrician* and commented as follows:
>>
>> Should Professor Bose succeed in perfecting and patenting his ‘Coherer’,
>> we may in time see the whole system of coast lighting throughout the
>> navigable world revolutionised by a Bengali scientist working single handed
>> in our Presidency College Laboratory.
>>
>> Bose planned to "perfect his coherer" but never thought of patenting it.
>> [24]
>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24>
>>
>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jagadish_Chandra_Bose_microwave_apparatus.png>
>> Diagram of microwave receiver and transmitter apparatus, from Bose's 1897
>> paper.
>>
>> Bose went to London on a lecture tour in 1896 and met Italian inventor Guglielmo
>> Marconi <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guglielmo_Marconi>, who had
>> been developing a radio wave wireless telegraphy
>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_telegraphy> system for over a
>> year and was trying to market it to the British post service. In an
>> interview, Bose expressed his disinterest in commercial telegraphy and
>> suggested others use his research work. In 1899, Bose announced the
>> development of a "*iron-mercury-iron coherer
>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherer> with telephone detector*" in a
>> paper presented at the Royal Society
>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society>, London.[26]
>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-pkbandyo-26>
>> On 12/28/2018 9:12 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Millimetre-length electromagnetic waves were first investigated in the
>> 1890s by Indian scientist Jagadish Chandra Bose
>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose>.   Now this is
>> really going back a long time as to the problem identification and alert.
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose
>> On 12/28/2018 8:52 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Please refer to the PDF, FCC Fsct Sheet
>> On 12/28/2018 8:39 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> You guys will just have to excuse me for  this injection of my opinion in
>> regards to the proliferation of high power ever-increasing frequencies in
>> our environment.    Before I completed my DeVry Electronics Course, 1953,
>> nightly, we listened to the old XERF, Del Rio, TX  on an old Stromberg
>> Carlson receiver in our living room.  The only folks exposed to the 50KW,
>> 250KW (licensed to 500KW) Am / FM 1570khz output were the residence around
>> the Del Rio area. Single transmitter covering the entire 48 states at the
>> time and most of Canada and down to South America. With cell phones we have
>> seen the expansion of the G's, 4G now up to 5G which means that with
>> increase frequencies we have a 10 fold increase in number of transmitter
>> sites to provide the necessary coverage. Interesting that you read the
>> history then form your opinion. See
>>
>> http://vvchc.net/marker/radio.html
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHRF-FM
>> https://www.electronicdesign.com/communications/understanding-wireless-range-calculations
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency
>>
>> By operating in the frequency range of 15ghz there will be an exponential number of new high power millimeter wave transmitters that exposes everyone to the now proven harmful effects.
>>
>> The old ham radio buffs and Engineers on here (Bob Paddock) and Hector will appreciate this input.
>>
>> Opinions are like Ass Holes, we all have one.    Norm
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/27/2018 4:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
>>
>>
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>> 
>

Warren, in this historical article, Dr. Brinkley started to put his RCA 
transmitter on his boat to make a floating international Radia Station.  
See  https://vvchc.net/histproj/radio-xera.html The Governments sure 
harassed him!

On 12/28/2018 8:39 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> You guys will just have to excuse me for  this injection of my opinion 
> in regards to the proliferation of high power ever-increasing 
> frequencies in our environment.    Before I completed my DeVry 
> Electronics Course, 1953, nightly, we listened to the old XERF, Del 
> Rio, TX  on an old Stromberg Carlson receiver in our living room.  The 
> only folks exposed to the 50KW, 250KW (licensed to 500KW) Am / FM 
> 1570khz output were the residence around the Del Rio area. Single 
> transmitter covering the entire 48 states at the time and most of 
> Canada and down to South America. With cell phones we have seen the 
> expansion of the G's, 4G now up to 5G which means that with increase 
> frequencies we have a 10 fold increase in number of transmitter sites 
> to provide the necessary coverage. Interesting that you read the 
> history then form your opinion. See
>
> http://vvchc.net/marker/radio.html
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHRF-FM
>
> https://www.electronicdesign.com/communications/understanding-wireless-range-calculations
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency
>
> By operating in the frequency range of 15ghz there will be an exponential number of new high power millimeter wave transmitters that exposes everyone to the now proven harmful effects.
>
> The old ham radio buffs and Engineers on here (Bob Paddock) and Hector will appreciate this input.
>
> Opinions are like Ass Holes, we all have one.    Norm
>
>
> On 12/27/2018 4:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>> https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
>>
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For local web and blue tooth why not lght it multiplexes well and we have
fiber optic cables and you don't have to be sticking radio waves in your
ear or bathing in them around your house .you can jam more in to light that
other emw .and it doesn't hurt people .you could use the street lights and
pourch lights in towns to broadcast .why go with harmful energy .?

On Friday, December 28, 2018, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> This for Steven Elswick,
>
> During a November 1894 (or 1895[24]
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24>)
> public demonstration at Town Hall of Kolkata, Bose ignited gunpowder and
> rang a bell at a distance using millimetre range wavelength microwaves.
> [25]
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-iiscbose-25>
> Lieutenant Governor Sir William Mackenzie witnessed Bose's demonstration in
> the Kolkata Town Hall. Bose wrote in a Bengali essay, *Adrisya Alok*
> (Invisible Light), "The invisible light can easily pass through brick
> walls, buildings etc. Therefore, messages can be transmitted by means of it
> without the mediation of wires."[24]
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24>
>
> Bose's first scientific paper, "On polarisation of electric rays by
> double-refracting crystals" was communicated to the Asiatic Society of
> Bengal in May 1895, within a year of Lodge's paper. His second paper was
> communicated to the Royal Society of London by Lord Rayleigh in October
> 1895. In December 1895, the London journal *Electrician* (Vol. 36)
> published Bose's paper, "On a new electro-polariscope". At that time, the
> word *coherer*, coined by Lodge, was used in the English-speaking world
> for Hertzian wave receivers or detectors. The *Electrician* readily
> commented on Bose's coherer. (December 1895). *The Englishman* (18
> January 1896) quoted from the *Electrician* and commented as follows:
>
> Should Professor Bose succeed in perfecting and patenting his ‘Coherer’,
> we may in time see the whole system of coast lighting throughout the
> navigable world revolutionised by a Bengali scientist working single handed
> in our Presidency College Laboratory.
>
> Bose planned to "perfect his coherer" but never thought of patenting it.
> [24]
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24>
>
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jagadish_Chandra_Bose_microwave_apparatus.png>
> Diagram of microwave receiver and transmitter apparatus, from Bose's 1897
> paper.
>
> Bose went to London on a lecture tour in 1896 and met Italian inventor Guglielmo
> Marconi <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guglielmo_Marconi>, who had been
> developing a radio wave wireless telegraphy
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_telegraphy> system for over a
> year and was trying to market it to the British post service. In an
> interview, Bose expressed his disinterest in commercial telegraphy and
> suggested others use his research work. In 1899, Bose announced the
> development of a "*iron-mercury-iron coherer
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherer> with telephone detector*" in a
> paper presented at the Royal Society
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society>, London.[26]
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-pkbandyo-26>
> On 12/28/2018 9:12 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Millimetre-length electromagnetic waves were first investigated in the
> 1890s by Indian scientist Jagadish Chandra Bose
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose>.   Now this is
> really going back a long time as to the problem identification and alert.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose
> On 12/28/2018 8:52 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Please refer to the PDF, FCC Fsct Sheet
> On 12/28/2018 8:39 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> You guys will just have to excuse me for  this injection of my opinion in
> regards to the proliferation of high power ever-increasing frequencies in
> our environment.    Before I completed my DeVry Electronics Course, 1953,
> nightly, we listened to the old XERF, Del Rio, TX  on an old Stromberg
> Carlson receiver in our living room.  The only folks exposed to the 50KW,
> 250KW (licensed to 500KW) Am / FM 1570khz output were the residence around
> the Del Rio area. Single transmitter covering the entire 48 states at the
> time and most of Canada and down to South America. With cell phones we have
> seen the expansion of the G's, 4G now up to 5G which means that with
> increase frequencies we have a 10 fold increase in number of transmitter
> sites to provide the necessary coverage. Interesting that you read the
> history then form your opinion. See
>
> http://vvchc.net/marker/radio.html
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHRF-FM
> https://www.electronicdesign.com/communications/understanding-wireless-range-calculations
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency
>
> By operating in the frequency range of 15ghz there will be an exponential number of new high power millimeter wave transmitters that exposes everyone to the now proven harmful effects.
>
> The old ham radio buffs and Engineers on here (Bob Paddock) and Hector will appreciate this input.
>
> Opinions are like Ass Holes, we all have one.    Norm
>
>
>
> On 12/27/2018 4:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
>
>
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>
> 
>

Norman, 

 I would like to think you are preaching to the choir on this 5G topic.
 

 It is ghastly, the consequences that is.
 

 However your introduction of this topic to the group is appreciated especially because of your stature and respect we have for you.
 

 In this house there is no microwave oven or wifi router,  blasting away 24/7, all hard wired.
 

 However I think the idiots will again prevail because of the profit generated in installing a "new" system every few years. Pathetic.
 

 Ron

If you use carbon that you can fource air through the current is much
increased .I've seen them with holes in the blocks for blowing air into .

On Friday, December 28, 2018, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Of interest here is Tesla's work with wireless transmission, see Page 25,
> Colorado Springs Notes. 1899 Houston St. Lab experimentation with wireless
> Telegraphy.
>
> On 12/28/2018 9:27 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> This for Steven Elswick,
>
> During a November 1894 (or 1895[24]
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24>)
> public demonstration at Town Hall of Kolkata, Bose ignited gunpowder and
> rang a bell at a distance using millimetre range wavelength microwaves.
> [25]
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-iiscbose-25>
> Lieutenant Governor Sir William Mackenzie witnessed Bose's demonstration in
> the Kolkata Town Hall. Bose wrote in a Bengali essay, *Adrisya Alok*
> (Invisible Light), "The invisible light can easily pass through brick
> walls, buildings etc. Therefore, messages can be transmitted by means of it
> without the mediation of wires."[24]
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24>
>
> Bose's first scientific paper, "On polarisation of electric rays by
> double-refracting crystals" was communicated to the Asiatic Society of
> Bengal in May 1895, within a year of Lodge's paper. His second paper was
> communicated to the Royal Society of London by Lord Rayleigh in October
> 1895. In December 1895, the London journal *Electrician* (Vol. 36)
> published Bose's paper, "On a new electro-polariscope". At that time, the
> word *coherer*, coined by Lodge, was used in the English-speaking world
> for Hertzian wave receivers or detectors. The *Electrician* readily
> commented on Bose's coherer. (December 1895). *The Englishman* (18
> January 1896) quoted from the *Electrician* and commented as follows:
>
> Should Professor Bose succeed in perfecting and patenting his ‘Coherer’,
> we may in time see the whole system of coast lighting throughout the
> navigable world revolutionised by a Bengali scientist working single handed
> in our Presidency College Laboratory.
>
> Bose planned to "perfect his coherer" but never thought of patenting it.
> [24]
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-Mukherji14-25-24>
>
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jagadish_Chandra_Bose_microwave_apparatus.png>
> Diagram of microwave receiver and transmitter apparatus, from Bose's 1897
> paper.
>
> Bose went to London on a lecture tour in 1896 and met Italian inventor Guglielmo
> Marconi <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guglielmo_Marconi>, who had been
> developing a radio wave wireless telegraphy
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_telegraphy> system for over a
> year and was trying to market it to the British post service. In an
> interview, Bose expressed his disinterest in commercial telegraphy and
> suggested others use his research work. In 1899, Bose announced the
> development of a "*iron-mercury-iron coherer
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherer> with telephone detector*" in a
> paper presented at the Royal Society
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society>, London.[26]
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose#cite_note-pkbandyo-26>
> On 12/28/2018 9:12 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Millimetre-length electromagnetic waves were first investigated in the
> 1890s by Indian scientist Jagadish Chandra Bose
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose>.   Now this is
> really going back a long time as to the problem identification and alert.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagadish_Chandra_Bose
> On 12/28/2018 8:52 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Please refer to the PDF, FCC Fsct Sheet
> On 12/28/2018 8:39 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> You guys will just have to excuse me for  this injection of my opinion in
> regards to the proliferation of high power ever-increasing frequencies in
> our environment.    Before I completed my DeVry Electronics Course, 1953,
> nightly, we listened to the old XERF, Del Rio, TX  on an old Stromberg
> Carlson receiver in our living room.  The only folks exposed to the 50KW,
> 250KW (licensed to 500KW) Am / FM 1570khz output were the residence around
> the Del Rio area. Single transmitter covering the entire 48 states at the
> time and most of Canada and down to South America. With cell phones we have
> seen the expansion of the G's, 4G now up to 5G which means that with
> increase frequencies we have a 10 fold increase in number of transmitter
> sites to provide the necessary coverage. Interesting that you read the
> history then form your opinion. See
>
> http://vvchc.net/marker/radio.html
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHRF-FM
> https://www.electronicdesign.com/communications/understanding-wireless-range-calculations
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency
>
> By operating in the frequency range of 15ghz there will be an exponential number of new high power millimeter wave transmitters that exposes everyone to the now proven harmful effects.
>
> The old ham radio buffs and Engineers on here (Bob Paddock) and Hector will appreciate this input.
>
> Opinions are like Ass Holes, we all have one.    Norm
>
>
>
> On 12/27/2018 4:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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