Muller

Hi guysI have been going back and reviewing videos, this time, Muller replications.There are some very nice projects that have been done, clearly running over unity.Doug's work is built on an impressively pragmatic body of work by many contributors, adding validity to his devices, even beyond his excellent videos.I find myself drawn back towards working on my Romaro.Muller, and Kone, project, now, after initially being thrown off, when finding Lenz's law drag.It is not quite so simple.There is a lot more work than hooking up a load and discovering it bogs down.This is where going back to roots is useful to cementing one's understanding of the entire processLike all of our successful machines and circuits, it is about timing, and management of those waves of energyIt seems to be all about harvesting, holding, and re-directing differentials, from as many dimensions as one can muster,+,-, perhaps future, maybe past, and so on.Thus is the joyful edge of discovery, where we probe things that need poking at, but few even can bring themselves to consider the existence of that beyond their orthodox education, and experience.
Beyond the box is a slimy mush, where we blindly feel our way, helping each other in turns.Anybody bothering to build some of these devices, now knows that free energy is more than Internet fraud, although, an amazing number of video makers seem to concentrate on producing bull shit, for reasons, I have trouble even imagining.Can positive hits pay so much?There seems to be a mad fervor to suck children into being bummed out by bogus devices made from craft store toys, all under the promise of "free energy"Oh, I have tried some of those things from well lit, carefully made, and staged, videos. They are not hugely expensive productions, but some upper end prosumer skills, and equipment, have been used to make those videos.There is usually some cheap trick involved to fake the results, rather than an honest display of an experiment or how to do it video.The number of these that are made, is astounding.I don't see many "how to take out your own appendix" videos, by comparison. Which, in fact, could be more interesting, perhaps, than faking energy devices.Hector tends to roll into more lurid images that I would rather not look into.Cheers Warren
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Hi Waren

I apologize for to send you to question off topic but have a good reason.

You were writing before about some cancer treatment.
My brother got one(sadly) on the lung adenoma cancer.
Have you any personal experience and good scope about the subject.
Thanks in advance

popp

On 12/16/18, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi guysI have been going back and reviewing videos, this time, Muller
> replications.There are some very nice projects that have been done, clearly
> running over unity.Doug's work is built on an impressively pragmatic body of
> work by many contributors, adding validity to his devices, even beyond his
> excellent videos.I find myself drawn back towards working on my
> Romaro.Muller, and Kone, project, now, after initially being thrown off,
> when finding Lenz's law drag.It is not quite so simple.There is a lot more
> work than hooking up a load and discovering it bogs down.This is where going
> back to roots is useful to cementing one's understanding of the entire
> processLike all of our successful machines and circuits, it is about timing,
> and management of those waves of energyIt seems to be all about harvesting,
> holding, and re-directing differentials, from as many dimensions as one can
> muster,+,-, perhaps future, maybe past, and so on.Thus is the joyful edge of
> discovery, where we probe things that need poking at, but few even can bring
> themselves to consider the existence of that beyond their orthodox
> education, and experience.
> Beyond the box is a slimy mush, where we blindly feel our way, helping each
> other in turns.Anybody bothering to build some of these devices, now knows
> that free energy is more than Internet fraud, although, an amazing number of
> video makers seem to concentrate on producing bull shit, for reasons, I have
> trouble even imagining.Can positive hits pay so much?There seems to be a mad
> fervor to suck children into being bummed out by bogus devices made from
> craft store toys, all under the promise of "free energy"Oh, I have tried
> some of those things from well lit, carefully made, and staged, videos. They
> are not hugely expensive productions, but some upper end prosumer skills,
> and equipment, have been used to make those videos.There is usually some
> cheap trick involved to fake the results, rather than an honest display of
> an experiment or how to do it video.The number of these that are made, is
> astounding.I don't see many "how to take out your own appendix" videos, by
> comparison. Which, in fact, could be more interesting, perhaps, than faking
> energy devices.Hector tends to roll into more lurid images that I would
> rather not look into.Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Popps,
Any cancer is easy to cure. Watch this video and follow its advice.
Cancer Cure is Easy

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Remember Garlic kills cancer, also remember cooked and processed foods feed cancer.
Keep the body loaded up with lots of raw garlic and only eat raw fruits and vegetables and water without fluoride.
The cancer will be gone in about 6 to 8 weeks and sometimes its gone in just over 3 weeks but keep it up for at least 6 weeks to make sure.

After it's gone don't rush back to eating the way you ate before getting cancer.
If you need any more advice let me know.
George
    On Tuesday, 18 December 2018, 7:21:54 pm AEDT, david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Hi Waren

I apologize for to send you to question off topic but have a good reason.

You were writing before about some cancer treatment.
My brother got one(sadly) on the lung adenoma cancer.
Have you any personal experience and good scope about the subject.
Thanks in advance

popp

On 12/16/18, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi guysI have been going back and reviewing videos, this time, Muller
> replications.There are some very nice projects that have been done, clearly
> running over unity.Doug's work is built on an impressively pragmatic body of
> work by many contributors, adding validity to his devices, even beyond his
> excellent videos.I find myself drawn back towards working on my
> Romaro.Muller, and Kone, project, now, after initially being thrown off,
> when finding Lenz's law drag.It is not quite so simple.There is a lot more
> work than hooking up a load and discovering it bogs down.This is where going
> back to roots is useful to cementing one's understanding of the entire
> processLike all of our successful machines and circuits, it is about timing,
> and management of those waves of energyIt seems to be all about harvesting,
> holding, and re-directing differentials, from as many dimensions as one can
> muster,+,-, perhaps future, maybe past, and so on.Thus is the joyful edge of
> discovery, where we probe things that need poking at, but few even can bring
> themselves to consider the existence of that beyond their orthodox
> education, and experience.
> Beyond the box is a slimy mush, where we blindly feel our way, helping each
> other in turns.Anybody bothering to build some of these devices, now knows
> that free energy is more than Internet fraud, although, an amazing number of
> video makers seem to concentrate on producing bull shit, for reasons, I have
> trouble even imagining.Can positive hits pay so much?There seems to be a mad
> fervor to suck children into being bummed out by bogus devices made from
> craft store toys, all under the promise of "free energy"Oh, I have tried
> some of those things from well lit, carefully made, and staged, videos. They
> are not hugely expensive productions, but some upper end prosumer skills,
> and equipment, have been used to make those videos.There is usually some
> cheap trick involved to fake the results, rather than an honest display of
> an experiment or how to do it video.The number of these that are made, is
> astounding.I don't see many "how to take out your own appendix" videos, by
> comparison. Which, in fact, could be more interesting, perhaps, than faking
> energy devices.Hector tends to roll into more lurid images that I would
> rather not look into.Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Dear George

Thank you for good advice..
Just curious..are you too cancer survivor and if yes what type(if any)..

rgds

pop

On 12/18/18, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:
>  Popps,
> Any cancer is easy to cure. Watch this video and follow its advice.
> Cancer Cure is Easy
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> Cancer Cure is Easy
>
> I did a hurried video 3 years ago and left out the importance of garlic,
> which is most important, because it is...
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>
>  |
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>  |
>
>
>
>
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> Remember Garlic kills cancer, also remember cooked and processed foods feed
> cancer.
> Keep the body loaded up with lots of raw garlic and only eat raw fruits and
> vegetables and water without fluoride.
> The cancer will be gone in about 6 to 8 weeks and sometimes its gone in just
> over 3 weeks but keep it up for at least 6 weeks to make sure.
>
> After it's gone don't rush back to eating the way you ate before getting
> cancer.
> If you need any more advice let me know.
> George
>     On Tuesday, 18 December 2018, 7:21:54 pm AEDT, david jones
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Waren
>
> I apologize for to send you to question off topic but have a good reason.
>
> You were writing before about some cancer treatment.
> My brother got one(sadly) on the lung adenoma cancer.
> Have you any personal experience and good scope about the subject.
> Thanks in advance
>
> popp
>
> On 12/16/18, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi guysI have been going back and reviewing videos, this time, Muller
>> replications.There are some very nice projects that have been done,
>> clearly
>> running over unity.Doug's work is built on an impressively pragmatic body
>> of
>> work by many contributors, adding validity to his devices, even beyond
>> his
>> excellent videos.I find myself drawn back towards working on my
>> Romaro.Muller, and Kone, project, now, after initially being thrown off,
>> when finding Lenz's law drag.It is not quite so simple.There is a lot
>> more
>> work than hooking up a load and discovering it bogs down.This is where
>> going
>> back to roots is useful to cementing one's understanding of the entire
>> processLike all of our successful machines and circuits, it is about
>> timing,
>> and management of those waves of energyIt seems to be all about
>> harvesting,
>> holding, and re-directing differentials, from as many dimensions as one
>> can
>> muster,+,-, perhaps future, maybe past, and so on.Thus is the joyful edge
>> of
>> discovery, where we probe things that need poking at, but few even can
>> bring
>> themselves to consider the existence of that beyond their orthodox
>> education, and experience.
>> Beyond the box is a slimy mush, where we blindly feel our way, helping
>> each
>> other in turns.Anybody bothering to build some of these devices, now
>> knows
>> that free energy is more than Internet fraud, although, an amazing number
>> of
>> video makers seem to concentrate on producing bull shit, for reasons, I
>> have
>> trouble even imagining.Can positive hits pay so much?There seems to be a
>> mad
>> fervor to suck children into being bummed out by bogus devices made from
>> craft store toys, all under the promise of "free energy"Oh, I have tried
>> some of those things from well lit, carefully made, and staged, videos.
>> They
>> are not hugely expensive productions, but some upper end prosumer skills,
>> and equipment, have been used to make those videos.There is usually some
>> cheap trick involved to fake the results, rather than an honest display
>> of
>> an experiment or how to do it video.The number of these that are made, is
>> astounding.I don't see many "how to take out your own appendix" videos,
>> by
>> comparison. Which, in fact, could be more interesting, perhaps, than
>> faking
>> energy devices.Hector tends to roll into more lurid images that I would
>> rather not look into.Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>

Popps,
During the years I have allowed my body to suffer many things as research experiments to see how to cure them.  I had 11 melanomas and allowed some to get a good hold but was able to cure them all.
Garlic is the key, 4 or more cloves a day. It is like a natural chemotherapy but doesn't harm any part of the body and it targets and kills cancer cells.  An easy way to eat a lot of garlic is to chop it up very fine and mash it in with a banana and add a little Virgin Olive oil. This is the only thing you can eat from a bottle, the Virgin Olive oil.  But remember you can only eat raw plant foods and pure water, no fluoride.  Some bottled waters are no good and the pH is acidic. Toothpaste with fluoride is no good either.

Nothing may pass the  lips except raw fruits and vegetables and nothing cooked or out of a can, bottle or packet.  No dairy, alcohol and nothing with man made sugar in it. Women can't have the Pill or HRT or implants of these.
People  on blood pressure medication will have to continue to take it and there may be other medications that are necessary to maintain life.

Follow this advice and the cancer will be cured.
George

    On Tuesday, 18 December 2018, 11:05:25 pm AEDT, david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Dear George

Thank you for good advice..
Just curious..are you too cancer survivor and if yes what type(if any)..

rgds

pop

On 12/18/18, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Popps,
> Any cancer is easy to cure. Watch this video and follow its advice.
> Cancer Cure is Easy
>
> |
> |
> |
> | | |
>
> |
>
> |
> |
> | |
> Cancer Cure is Easy
>
> I did a hurried video 3 years ago and left out the importance of garlic,
> which is most important, because it is...
> |
>
> |
>
> |
>
>
>
>
>
> Remember Garlic kills cancer, also remember cooked and processed foods feed
> cancer.
> Keep the body loaded up with lots of raw garlic and only eat raw fruits and
> vegetables and water without fluoride.
> The cancer will be gone in about 6 to 8 weeks and sometimes its gone in just
> over 3 weeks but keep it up for at least 6 weeks to make sure.
>
> After it's gone don't rush back to eating the way you ate before getting
> cancer.
> If you need any more advice let me know.
> George
> On Tuesday, 18 December 2018, 7:21:54 pm AEDT, david jones
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Waren
>
> I apologize for to send you to question off topic but have a good reason.
>
> You were writing before about some cancer treatment.
> My brother got one(sadly) on the lung adenoma cancer.
> Have you any personal experience and good scope about the subject.
> Thanks in advance
>
> popp
>
> On 12/16/18, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi guysI have been going back and reviewing videos, this time, Muller
>> replications.There are some very nice projects that have been done,
>> clearly
>> running over unity.Doug's work is built on an impressively pragmatic body
>> of
>> work by many contributors, adding validity to his devices, even beyond
>> his
>> excellent videos.I find myself drawn back towards working on my
>> Romaro.Muller, and Kone, project, now, after initially being thrown off,
>> when finding Lenz's law drag.It is not quite so simple.There is a lot
>> more
>> work than hooking up a load and discovering it bogs down.This is where
>> going
>> back to roots is useful to cementing one's understanding of the entire
>> processLike all of our successful machines and circuits, it is about
>> timing,
>> and management of those waves of energyIt seems to be all about
>> harvesting,
>> holding, and re-directing differentials, from as many dimensions as one
>> can
>> muster,+,-, perhaps future, maybe past, and so on.Thus is the joyful edge
>> of
>> discovery, where we probe things that need poking at, but few even can
>> bring
>> themselves to consider the existence of that beyond their orthodox
>> education, and experience.
>> Beyond the box is a slimy mush, where we blindly feel our way, helping
>> each
>> other in turns.Anybody bothering to build some of these devices, now
>> knows
>> that free energy is more than Internet fraud, although, an amazing number
>> of
>> video makers seem to concentrate on producing bull shit, for reasons, I
>> have
>> trouble even imagining.Can positive hits pay so much?There seems to be a
>> mad
>> fervor to suck children into being bummed out by bogus devices made from
>> craft store toys, all under the promise of "free energy"Oh, I have tried
>> some of those things from well lit, carefully made, and staged, videos.
>> They
>> are not hugely expensive productions, but some upper end prosumer skills,
>> and equipment, have been used to make those videos.There is usually some
>> cheap trick involved to fake the results, rather than an honest display
>> of
>> an experiment or how to do it video.The number of these that are made, is
>> astounding.I don't see many "how to take out your own appendix" videos,
>> by
>> comparison. Which, in fact, could be more interesting, perhaps, than
>> faking
>> energy devices.Hector tends to roll into more lurid images that I would
>> rather not look into.Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>

DavidI'm sorry to hear of that your brother is ill.No, it wasn't me.I don't have any experience on the subject.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 3:21 AM, david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Waren

I apologize for to send you to question off topic but have a good reason.

You were writing before about some cancer treatment.
My brother got one(sadly) on the lung adenoma cancer.
Have you any personal experience and good scope about the subject.
Thanks in advance

popp

On 12/16/18, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi guysI have been going back and reviewing videos, this time, Muller
> replications.There are some very nice projects that have been done, clearly
> running over unity.Doug's work is built on an impressively pragmatic body of
> work by many contributors, adding validity to his devices, even beyond his
> excellent videos.I find myself drawn back towards working on my
> Romaro.Muller, and Kone, project, now, after initially being thrown off,
> when finding Lenz's law drag.It is not quite so simple.There is a lot more
> work than hooking up a load and discovering it bogs down.This is where going
> back to roots is useful to cementing one's understanding of the entire
> processLike all of our successful machines and circuits, it is about timing,
> and management of those waves of energyIt seems to be all about harvesting,
> holding, and re-directing differentials, from as many dimensions as one can
> muster,+,-, perhaps future, maybe past, and so on.Thus is the joyful edge of
> discovery, where we probe things that need poking at, but few even can bring
> themselves to consider the existence of that beyond their orthodox
> education, and experience.
> Beyond the box is a slimy mush, where we blindly feel our way, helping each
> other in turns.Anybody bothering to build some of these devices, now knows
> that free energy is more than Internet fraud, although, an amazing number of
> video makers seem to concentrate on producing bull shit, for reasons, I have
> trouble even imagining.Can positive hits pay so much?There seems to be a mad
> fervor to suck children into being bummed out by bogus devices made from
> craft store toys, all under the promise of "free energy"Oh, I have tried
> some of those things from well lit, carefully made, and staged, videos. They
> are not hugely expensive productions, but some upper end prosumer skills,
> and equipment, have been used to make those videos.There is usually some
> cheap trick involved to fake the results, rather than an honest display of
> an experiment or how to do it video.The number of these that are made, is
> astounding.I don't see many "how to take out your own appendix" videos, by
> comparison. Which, in fact, could be more interesting, perhaps, than faking
> energy devices.Hector tends to roll into more lurid images that I would
> rather not look into.Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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Hi George
Thanks for giving advice on cancer to Popps for his brother that is very kind of you .
You also gave me advice for my brother a couple years ago who developed a  diiabetic condition, so I gave him what you wrote and it really helped him so thanks for that..
One problem is when someone finds they have cancer, every loved one and friend will flood them with this cancer cure and that cancer cure and everyone is well meaning but it just makes for confusion  and sometimes no action at all happens...so i hope you can convince Popps brother to.follow your advice...
especially do not go for the  standard chemo therapy treatments  as that is in itself a death sentence.
Kone

George,

What is the advice you give for Diabetes, is it the same as your video
or are there some other additions like the garlic?



On 12/18/2018 5:00 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
> Popps,
>
> Any cancer is easy to cure. Watch this video and follow its advice.
>
> Cancer Cure is Easy <https://vimeo.com/293806638>
>
>
> 	
>
> 	
>
>
>     Cancer Cure is Easy
>
> I did a hurried video 3 years ago and left out the importance of
> garlic, which is most important, because it is...
>
> <https://vimeo.com/293806638>
>
>
>
>
> Remember Garlic kills cancer, also remember cooked and processed foods
> feed cancer.
>
> Keep the body loaded up with lots of raw garlic and only eat raw
> fruits and vegetables and water without fluoride.
>
> The cancer will be gone in about 6 to 8 weeks and sometimes its gone
> in just over 3 weeks but keep it up for at least 6 weeks to make sure.
>
> After it's gone don't rush back to eating the way you ate before
> getting cancer.
>
> If you need any more advice let me know.
>
> George
>
> On Tuesday, 18 December 2018, 7:21:54 pm AEDT, david jones
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>  
>
> Hi Waren
>
> I apologize for to send you to question off topic but have a good reason.
>
> You were writing before about some cancer treatment.
> My brother got one(sadly) on the lung adenoma cancer.
> Have you any personal experience and good scope about the subject.
> Thanks in advance
>
> popp
>
> On 12/16/18, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi guysI have been going back and reviewing videos, this time, Muller
> > replications.There are some very nice projects that have been done,
> clearly
> > running over unity.Doug's work is built on an impressively pragmatic
> body of
> > work by many contributors, adding validity to his devices, even
> beyond his
> > excellent videos.I find myself drawn back towards working on my
> > Romaro.Muller, and Kone, project, now, after initially being thrown off,
> > when finding Lenz's law drag.It is not quite so simple.There is a
> lot more
> > work than hooking up a load and discovering it bogs down.This is
> where going
> > back to roots is useful to cementing one's understanding of the entire
> > processLike all of our successful machines and circuits, it is about
> timing,
> > and management of those waves of energyIt seems to be all about
> harvesting,
> > holding, and re-directing differentials, from as many dimensions as
> one can
> > muster,+,-, perhaps future, maybe past, and so on.Thus is the joyful
> edge of
> > discovery, where we probe things that need poking at, but few even
> can bring
> > themselves to consider the existence of that beyond their orthodox
> > education, and experience.
> > Beyond the box is a slimy mush, where we blindly feel our way,
> helping each
> > other in turns.Anybody bothering to build some of these devices, now
> knows
> > that free energy is more than Internet fraud, although, an amazing
> number of
> > video makers seem to concentrate on producing bull shit, for
> reasons, I have
> > trouble even imagining.Can positive hits pay so much?There seems to
> be a mad
> > fervor to suck children into being bummed out by bogus devices made from
> > craft store toys, all under the promise of "free energy"Oh, I have tried
> > some of those things from well lit, carefully made, and staged,
> videos. They
> > are not hugely expensive productions, but some upper end prosumer
> skills,
> > and equipment, have been used to make those videos.There is usually some
> > cheap trick involved to fake the results, rather than an honest
> display of
> > an experiment or how to do it video.The number of these that are
> made, is
> > astounding.I don't see many "how to take out your own appendix"
> videos, by
> > comparison. Which, in fact, could be more interesting, perhaps, than
> faking
> > energy devices.Hector tends to roll into more lurid images that I would
> > rather not look into.Cheers Warren
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>

Thanks, George..will transfer to brother
On 12/18/18, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:
>  Popps,
> During the years I have allowed my body to suffer many things as research
> experiments to see how to cure them.  I had 11 melanomas and allowed some to
> get a good hold but was able to cure them all.
> Garlic is the key, 4 or more cloves a day. It is like a natural chemotherapy
> but doesn't harm any part of the body and it targets and kills cancer
> cells.  An easy way to eat a lot of garlic is to chop it up very fine and
> mash it in with a banana and add a little Virgin Olive oil. This is the only
> thing you can eat from a bottle, the Virgin Olive oil.  But remember you can
> only eat raw plant foods and pure water, no fluoride.  Some bottled waters
> are no good and the pH is acidic. Toothpaste with fluoride is no good
> either.
>
> Nothing may pass the  lips except raw fruits and vegetables and nothing
> cooked or out of a can, bottle or packet.  No dairy, alcohol and nothing
> with man made sugar in it. Women can't have the Pill or HRT or implants of
> these.
> People  on blood pressure medication will have to continue to take it and
> there may be other medications that are necessary to maintain life.
>
> Follow this advice and the cancer will be cured.
> George
>
>     On Tuesday, 18 December 2018, 11:05:25 pm AEDT, david jones
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Dear George
>
> Thank you for good advice..
> Just curious..are you too cancer survivor and if yes what type(if any)..
>
> rgds
>
> pop
>
> On 12/18/18, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Popps,
>> Any cancer is easy to cure. Watch this video and follow its advice.
>> Cancer Cure is Easy
>>
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> | | |
>>
>> |
>>
>> |
>> |
>> | |
>> Cancer Cure is Easy
>>
>> I did a hurried video 3 years ago and left out the importance of garlic,
>> which is most important, because it is...
>> |
>>
>> |
>>
>> |
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Remember Garlic kills cancer, also remember cooked and processed foods
>> feed
>> cancer.
>> Keep the body loaded up with lots of raw garlic and only eat raw fruits
>> and
>> vegetables and water without fluoride.
>> The cancer will be gone in about 6 to 8 weeks and sometimes its gone in
>> just
>> over 3 weeks but keep it up for at least 6 weeks to make sure.
>>
>> After it's gone don't rush back to eating the way you ate before getting
>> cancer.
>> If you need any more advice let me know.
>> George
>> On Tuesday, 18 December 2018, 7:21:54 pm AEDT, david jones
>> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Waren
>>
>> I apologize for to send you to question off topic but have a good reason.
>>
>> You were writing before about some cancer treatment.
>> My brother got one(sadly) on the lung adenoma cancer.
>> Have you any personal experience and good scope about the subject.
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> popp
>>
>> On 12/16/18, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi guysI have been going back and reviewing videos, this time, Muller
>>> replications.There are some very nice projects that have been done,
>>> clearly
>>> running over unity.Doug's work is built on an impressively pragmatic
>>> body
>>> of
>>> work by many contributors, adding validity to his devices, even beyond
>>> his
>>> excellent videos.I find myself drawn back towards working on my
>>> Romaro.Muller, and Kone, project, now, after initially being thrown off,
>>> when finding Lenz's law drag.It is not quite so simple.There is a lot
>>> more
>>> work than hooking up a load and discovering it bogs down.This is where
>>> going
>>> back to roots is useful to cementing one's understanding of the entire
>>> processLike all of our successful machines and circuits, it is about
>>> timing,
>>> and management of those waves of energyIt seems to be all about
>>> harvesting,
>>> holding, and re-directing differentials, from as many dimensions as one
>>> can
>>> muster,+,-, perhaps future, maybe past, and so on.Thus is the joyful
>>> edge
>>> of
>>> discovery, where we probe things that need poking at, but few even can
>>> bring
>>> themselves to consider the existence of that beyond their orthodox
>>> education, and experience.
>>> Beyond the box is a slimy mush, where we blindly feel our way, helping
>>> each
>>> other in turns.Anybody bothering to build some of these devices, now
>>> knows
>>> that free energy is more than Internet fraud, although, an amazing
>>> number
>>> of
>>> video makers seem to concentrate on producing bull shit, for reasons, I
>>> have
>>> trouble even imagining.Can positive hits pay so much?There seems to be a
>>> mad
>>> fervor to suck children into being bummed out by bogus devices made from
>>> craft store toys, all under the promise of "free energy"Oh, I have tried
>>> some of those things from well lit, carefully made, and staged, videos.
>>> They
>>> are not hugely expensive productions, but some upper end prosumer
>>> skills,
>>> and equipment, have been used to make those videos.There is usually some
>>> cheap trick involved to fake the results, rather than an honest display
>>> of
>>> an experiment or how to do it video.The number of these that are made,
>>> is
>>> astounding.I don't see many "how to take out your own appendix" videos,
>>> by
>>> comparison. Which, in fact, could be more interesting, perhaps, than
>>> faking
>>> energy devices.Hector tends to roll into more lurid images that I would
>>> rather not look into.Cheers Warren
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>>
>
>

Popps,
I forgot to mention NO SMOKING, it feeds the cancer.
George

    On Wednesday, 19 December 2018, 5:56:44 am AEDT, david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Thanks, George..will transfer to brother
On 12/18/18, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Popps,
> During the years I have allowed my body to suffer many things as research
> experiments to see how to cure them. I had 11 melanomas and allowed some to
> get a good hold but was able to cure them all.
> Garlic is the key, 4 or more cloves a day. It is like a natural chemotherapy
> but doesn't harm any part of the body and it targets and kills cancer
> cells. An easy way to eat a lot of garlic is to chop it up very fine and
> mash it in with a banana and add a little Virgin Olive oil. This is the only
> thing you can eat from a bottle, the Virgin Olive oil. But remember you can
> only eat raw plant foods and pure water, no fluoride. Some bottled waters
> are no good and the pH is acidic. Toothpaste with fluoride is no good
> either.
>
> Nothing may pass the lips except raw fruits and vegetables and nothing
> cooked or out of a can, bottle or packet. No dairy, alcohol and nothing
> with man made sugar in it. Women can't have the Pill or HRT or implants of
> these.
> People on blood pressure medication will have to continue to take it and
> there may be other medications that are necessary to maintain life.
>
> Follow this advice and the cancer will be cured.
> George
>
> On Tuesday, 18 December 2018, 11:05:25 pm AEDT, david jones
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Dear George
>
> Thank you for good advice..
> Just curious..are you too cancer survivor and if yes what type(if any)..
>
> rgds
>
> pop
>
> On 12/18/18, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Popps,
>> Any cancer is easy to cure. Watch this video and follow its advice.
>> Cancer Cure is Easy
>>
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> | | |
>>
>> |
>>
>> |
>> |
>> | |
>> Cancer Cure is Easy
>>
>> I did a hurried video 3 years ago and left out the importance of garlic,
>> which is most important, because it is...
>> |
>>
>> |
>>
>> |
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Remember Garlic kills cancer, also remember cooked and processed foods
>> feed
>> cancer.
>> Keep the body loaded up with lots of raw garlic and only eat raw fruits
>> and
>> vegetables and water without fluoride.
>> The cancer will be gone in about 6 to 8 weeks and sometimes its gone in
>> just
>> over 3 weeks but keep it up for at least 6 weeks to make sure.
>>
>> After it's gone don't rush back to eating the way you ate before getting
>> cancer.
>> If you need any more advice let me know.
>> George
>> On Tuesday, 18 December 2018, 7:21:54 pm AEDT, david jones
>> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Waren
>>
>> I apologize for to send you to question off topic but have a good reason.
>>
>> You were writing before about some cancer treatment.
>> My brother got one(sadly) on the lung adenoma cancer.
>> Have you any personal experience and good scope about the subject.
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> popp
>>
>> On 12/16/18, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi guysI have been going back and reviewing videos, this time, Muller
>>> replications.There are some very nice projects that have been done,
>>> clearly
>>> running over unity.Doug's work is built on an impressively pragmatic
>>> body
>>> of
>>> work by many contributors, adding validity to his devices, even beyond
>>> his
>>> excellent videos.I find myself drawn back towards working on my
>>> Romaro.Muller, and Kone, project, now, after initially being thrown off,
>>> when finding Lenz's law drag.It is not quite so simple.There is a lot
>>> more
>>> work than hooking up a load and discovering it bogs down.This is where
>>> going
>>> back to roots is useful to cementing one's understanding of the entire
>>> processLike all of our successful machines and circuits, it is about
>>> timing,
>>> and management of those waves of energyIt seems to be all about
>>> harvesting,
>>> holding, and re-directing differentials, from as many dimensions as one
>>> can
>>> muster,+,-, perhaps future, maybe past, and so on.Thus is the joyful
>>> edge
>>> of
>>> discovery, where we probe things that need poking at, but few even can
>>> bring
>>> themselves to consider the existence of that beyond their orthodox
>>> education, and experience.
>>> Beyond the box is a slimy mush, where we blindly feel our way, helping
>>> each
>>> other in turns.Anybody bothering to build some of these devices, now
>>> knows
>>> that free energy is more than Internet fraud, although, an amazing
>>> number
>>> of
>>> video makers seem to concentrate on producing bull shit, for reasons, I
>>> have
>>> trouble even imagining.Can positive hits pay so much?There seems to be a
>>> mad
>>> fervor to suck children into being bummed out by bogus devices made from
>>> craft store toys, all under the promise of "free energy"Oh, I have tried
>>> some of those things from well lit, carefully made, and staged, videos.
>>> They
>>> are not hugely expensive productions, but some upper end prosumer
>>> skills,
>>> and equipment, have been used to make those videos.There is usually some
>>> cheap trick involved to fake the results, rather than an honest display
>>> of
>>> an experiment or how to do it video.The number of these that are made,
>>> is
>>> astounding.I don't see many "how to take out your own appendix" videos,
>>> by
>>> comparison. Which, in fact, could be more interesting, perhaps, than
>>> faking
>>> energy devices.Hector tends to roll into more lurid images that I would
>>> rather not look into.Cheers Warren
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>>
>
>

Thanks Doug.
George

    On Wednesday, 19 December 2018, 6:23:09 am AEDT, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Hi George
Thanks for giving advice on cancer to Popps for his brother that is very kind of you .
You also gave me advice for my brother a couple years ago who developed a diiabetic condition, so I gave him what you wrote and it really helped him so thanks for that..
One problem is when someone finds they have cancer, every loved one and friend will flood them with this cancer cure and that cancer cure and everyone is well meaning but it just makes for confusion and sometimes no action at all happens...so i hope you can convince Popps brother to.follow your advice...
especially do not go for the standard chemo therapy treatments as that is in itself a death sentence.
Kone

Thanks Kone!!

Fortunately, my brother doesn't want to take any of official treatment
(chemo, radiation, surgery etc..)
popps
On 12/18/18, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi George
> Thanks for giving advice on cancer to Popps for his brother that is very
> kind of you .
> You also gave me advice for my brother a couple years ago who developed a
> diiabetic condition, so I gave him what you wrote and it really helped him
> so thanks for that..
> One problem is when someone finds they have cancer, every loved one and
> friend will flood them with this cancer cure and that cancer cure and
> everyone is well meaning but it just makes for confusion  and sometimes no
> action at all happens...so i hope you can convince Popps brother to.follow
> your advice...
> especially do not go for the  standard chemo therapy treatments  as that is
> in itself a death sentence.
> Kone

Hi Popps
That's good  your brother is smart...however surgery  might be.needed but I don't know..
lots of times doctors will refuse to do a surgery unless chemo treatments are included for their own malpractice nsurance reasons.
And also doctors have fears of being sued by their patient, for not following the.mainstream program of chemotherapy
.then also the  hospitals will refuse cancer surgeries unless chemotherapy s included bevause also fears of the hospital being sued...
Follow advice of George!  
Try and find survivors with same sort of cancer and see what they did to beat it too...
Kone

Thanks Kone!

He had adenoma lung cancer (slow growing) in the middle between l/r
lung in the center root.
popps

On 12/19/18, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Popps
> That's good  your brother is smart...however surgery  might be.needed but I
> don't know..
> lots of times doctors will refuse to do a surgery unless chemo treatments
> are included for their own malpractice nsurance reasons.
> And also doctors have fears of being sued by their patient, for not
> following the.mainstream program of chemotherapy
> .then also the  hospitals will refuse cancer surgeries unless chemotherapy s
> included bevause also fears of the hospital being sued...
> Follow advice of George!
> Try and find survivors with same sort of cancer and see what they did to
> beat it too...
> Kone

Mick,
A lot of experiments were done on army men where they force fed fat into their diet and this made them diabetics, and when they eliminated fat from the diet in 2 weeks the men were no longer diabetics.
So for diabetes type 2 just remove all fat from the diet and this will cure the problem in most cases, but in long standing cases Reflexology treatment may be necessary.

For diabetes type 1, Reflexology treatment is needed and this heals the pancreas and allows it to produce insulin.  WARNING should be given when carrying out this treatment because after 1 treatment the pancreas can start making insulin again and the patient may have to alter/reduce the daily intake of insulin to allow for this, otherwise the patient may have an insulin overload.
I have seen 1 treatment cause the patient to have to reduce his dose of insulin by 50%.
The best treatment is to go on the natural diet of raw fruits and vegetables while having the Reflexology treatment for type 1 and also use Reflexology and the diet for type 2
I had a cancer patient who had been a diabetic for 25 years and after 5 days of treatment he was not a diabetic anymore. In fact he didn't need his daily does of insulin after only 3 days but we made sure by going the 5 days.
In all health problems the natural diet of raw fruits and vegetables is the key to success.
George

    On Wednesday, 19 December 2018, 11:22:52 am AEDT, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
 

George,
 
What is the advice you give for Diabetes, is it the same as your video or are there some other additions like the garlic?
 

 
 

 
 On 12/18/2018 5:00 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
       Popps, 
  Any cancer is easy to cure. Watch this video and follow its advice. 
   Cancer Cure is Easy 
   
|  
|  
|  
| 
  | 
  |

  |

  |
|  
|  |  
Cancer Cure is Easy
 
I did a hurried video 3 years ago and left out the  importance of garlic, which is most important, because it is...
  |

  |

  |

  
  
  
  
  Remember Garlic kills cancer, also remember cooked and processed foods feed cancer. 
  Keep the body loaded up with lots of raw garlic and only eat raw fruits and vegetables and water without fluoride. 
  The cancer will be gone in about 6 to 8 weeks and sometimes its gone in just over 3 weeks but keep it up for at least 6 weeks to make sure.
  
  After it's gone don't rush back to eating the way you ate before getting cancer. 
  If you need any more advice let me know. 
  George 
      On Tuesday, 18 December 2018, 7:21:54 pm AEDT, david jones [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
  
          
Hi Waren
 
 I apologize for to send you to question off topic but have a good reason.
 
 You were writing before about some cancer treatment.
 My brother got one(sadly) on the lung adenoma cancer.
 Have you any personal experience and good scope about the subject.
 Thanks in advance
 
 popp
 
 On 12/16/18, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:
 > Hi guysI have been going back and reviewing videos, this time, Muller
 > replications.There are some very nice projects that have been done, clearly
 > running over unity.Doug's work is built on an impressively pragmatic body of
 > work by many contributors, adding validity to his devices, even beyond his
 > excellent videos.I find myself drawn back towards working on my
 > Romaro.Muller, and Kone, project, now, after initially being thrown off,
 > when finding Lenz's law drag.It is not quite so simple.There is a lot more
 > work than hooking up a load and discovering it bogs down.This is where going
 > back to roots is useful to cementing one's understanding of the entire
 > processLike all of our successful machines and circuits, it is about timing,
 > and management of those waves of energyIt seems to be all about harvesting,
 > holding, and re-directing differentials, from as many dimensions as one can
 > muster,+,-, perhaps future, maybe past, and so on.Thus is the joyful edge of
 > discovery, where we probe things that need poking at, but few even can bring
 > themselves to consider the existence of that beyond their orthodox
 > education, and experience.
 > Beyond the box is a slimy mush, where we blindly feel our way, helping each
 > other in turns.Anybody bothering to build some of these devices, now knows
 > that free energy is more than Internet fraud, although, an amazing number of
 > video makers seem to concentrate on producing bull shit, for reasons, I have
 > trouble even imagining.Can positive hits pay so much?There seems to be a mad
 > fervor to suck children into being bummed out by bogus devices made from
 > craft store toys, all under the promise of "free energy"Oh, I have tried
 > some of those things from well lit, carefully made, and staged, videos. They
 > are not hugely expensive productions, but some upper end prosumer skills,
 > and equipment, have been used to make those videos.There is usually some
 > cheap trick involved to fake the results, rather than an honest display of
 > an experiment or how to do it video.The number of these that are made, is
 > astounding.I don't see many "how to take out your own appendix" videos, by
 > comparison. Which, in fact, could be more interesting, perhaps, than faking
 > energy devices.Hector tends to roll into more lurid images that I would
 > rather not look into.Cheers Warren
 > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

George,
 

 How does reflexology work and what in your opinion is the best school of same as I imagine like many other practices there are multiple interpretations?
 

 I am very lacking in knowledge in this modality of healing.but understand it to be similar to acupressure so can it be done by oneself or does one require another person to apply to the pressure points?

mkjekyll my friend, Reflexology is a scam.
 

 https://www.steadyhealth.com/topics/reflexology-is-a-scam-why-can-t-everyone-see-that https://www.steadyhealth.com/topics/reflexology-is-a-scam-why-can-t-everyone-see-that

DarrellPerhaps reflexology  is lumped into cure alls, which we all would wish there were .In among the one person's reply was a refrence to acupuncture.After my devastating horse accident, in New Zealand a few years ago, one of the seven doctors attending me in the intensive care unit, right from the beginning, was a physiotherapist. In that teaching hospital, a leading trauma center, in the far south, was a visiting American physician, a specialist in upper body trauma, who joined that group of doctors attending me, as besides a destroyed rib cage, and other bone major bone injuries, I had a punctured lung that a rib had penetrated.In this hospital, everyone treated each other with professional respect, and worked as a team for the good of the patients, not unlike St Mike's in Toronto, which shares that same collegial attitude towards healing.The medical practice in United States tends not to include physio therapists as doctors, giving them the same status of opinion, in a circle around the patient's bed. The American doctor had difficulty relinquishing his status of opinion to a "mere" physiotherapist.I was receiving excellent care, given that I was only a pathetic wreck, not able to move, with tubes in every orifice, and what looked like an oil refinery pipeline set of junctions on each arm, plus a tube out the side of my chest.As my recovery progressed, the visiting specialist had an apparatus brought in that I had to blow in, to help the lung to be able to inflate.It was very painful, and uncomfortable, to reach the target goals on the various meters.By contrast, the physio, after observing my struggles, made up a simple device from a plastic drink bottle,  full of water, with a straw, that I just had to try to blow bubbles into. It was so simple, cheap, and easy to use, but for me, most of all, relatively pain free. I used it frequently, and recovered quickly.Later, back in Toronto, still recovering, as a full time job, walking was a painful effort, as was assuming much other than a pathetic fetal position.My upper body trauma specialist treating me, recommended soft tissue physiotherapy.I arrived at her office a gnomeish heap, and first had acupuncture.Needles were inserted in an array, with electrodes then attached.I was put in a room and left to buzz.Amazing! I could walk, and stand straight.In the weeks that followed, I made remarkable recovery, with suction cups on scar tissue, physical manipulation of the muscles, and excellent care by a "chiropractor"Much medicine, and treatment, is dictated by insurance companies, and who they will fund.It is in interesting both New Zealand, and Canada, have pretty good public funded health care systems, that I experienced personally, to be excellent.Chiropractors are not covered in Ontario, but certainly should be.When there is competition for funds, human greed takes over, rather than focusing on patient care. Each little school of medicine, not to speak of big pharma grab for a piece of the pie, who just happens to be flesh and bone, and not made of money.All human knowledge should be shared with all sciences combined, taking the exploitation,  and greed out of the equation.Cheers WarrenSent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 at 1:08 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

mkjekyll my friend, Reflexology is a scam.
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Ji Popps
 you guys will decide best treatment and plan I am sure, but just thinking considering where his tumor is, perhaps some sort of steam or mist inhaler with garlic or whatever ingredients to it  can better target that tumor right between his lungs...for surgery, I think they would normally have to saw through his ribs, pull them apart and cut it out then put ribs back togethe, but perhaps there is some "non evasive" arthoscopic means with miniature camera and cutting device like they will do with heart and othersurgeries sometime and insert through armpit or groin the devices...(I don't know)
 Kone

Warren Darrell and all I can say that Warren is right on with his thoughts He has been through it and knows,My wife has been through it and knows.We are in our seventies and still try to lead active lives .About 3 years ago she started having problems just like she was having a heart attack ,I have had her in all the major hospitals in a hundred mile radius,all the Specialist had looked at her all the test you can think of has been run,she had one of these spells while I was close to a hospital I floor boarded the truck and ran up to the emergency door and they got her in there hooked her up to all the Monitors and every thing was normal with her lying there limber as a noodle. any way about 2 months ago we had a friend that had gotten so bad he could hardly walk he is a young fellow in his 40's, he had found one of these Doctors I call him a Quack because he is different he is Chirpractor but not a standard one .The insurance would not Pay a dime on it I had to pay for it but let Me tell you it worked I have My little Woman back and as the Bible says She is a Helpmate ,she does all the yard work around the House keeps the house clean,cooks and I love to eat I can go Work on Farm equiptment again and not have to worry about being close so I can take her to the Hospital .Now if I had spent all My money on new Cadilacs and put it all in the fuel tank instead of saving it I would not have been able to see if this Alternative deal would work.Now all these specialist at the Hospitals agreed after all the test that it was an Electrical problem but none of them knew how to make the electricity flow with just pills and We both have been to regular chirpractors but none of them had the KeySteve 


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DarrellPerhaps reflexology  is lumped into cure alls, which we all would wish there were .In among the one person's reply was a refrence to acupuncture.After my devastating horse accident, in New Zealand a few years ago, one of the seven doctors attending me in the intensive care unit, right from the beginning, was a physiotherapist. In that teaching hospital, a leading trauma center, in the far south, was a visiting American physician, a specialist in upper body trauma, who joined that group of doctors attending me, as besides a destroyed rib cage, and other bone major bone injuries, I had a punctured lung that a rib had penetrated.In this hospital, everyone treated each other with professional respect, and worked as a team for the good of the patients, not unlike St Mike's in Toronto, which shares that same collegial attitude towards healing.The medical practice in United States tends not to include physio therapists as doctors, giving them the same status of opinion, in a circle around the patient's bed. The American doctor had difficulty relinquishing his status of opinion to a "mere" physiotherapist.I was receiving excellent care, given that I was only a pathetic wreck, not able to move, with tubes in every orifice, and what looked like an oil refinery pipeline set of junctions on each arm, plus a tube out the side of my chest.As my recovery progressed, the visiting specialist had an apparatus brought in that I had to blow in, to help the lung to be able to inflate.It was very painful, and uncomfortable, to reach the target goals on the various meters.By contrast, the physio, after observing my struggles, made up a simple device from a plastic drink bottle,  full of water, with a straw, that I just had to try to blow bubbles into. It was so simple, cheap, and easy to use, but for me, most of all, relatively pain free. I used it frequently, and recovered quickly.Later, back in Toronto, still recovering, as a full time job, walking was a painful effort, as was assuming much other than a pathetic fetal position.My upper body trauma specialist treating me, recommended soft tissue physiotherapy.I arrived at her office a gnomeish heap, and first had acupuncture.Needles were inserted in an array, with electrodes then attached.I was put in a room and left to buzz.Amazing! I could walk, and stand straight.In the weeks that followed, I made remarkable recovery, with suction cups on scar tissue, physical manipulation of the muscles, and excellent care by a "chiropractor"Much medicine, and treatment, is dictated by insurance companies, and who they will fund.It is in interesting both New Zealand, and Canada, have pretty good public funded health care systems, that I experienced personally, to be excellent.Chiropractors are not covered in Ontario, but certainly should be.When there is competition for funds, human greed takes over, rather than focusing on patient care. Each little school of medicine, not to speak of big pharma grab for a piece of the pie, who just happens to be flesh and bone, and not made of money.All human knowledge should be shared with all sciences combined, taking the exploitation,  and greed out of the equation.Cheers WarrenSent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 at 1:08 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       mkjekyll my friend, Reflexology is a scam.
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