Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
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Norman Wootan
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On 11/11/2018 4:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: > > Sorry for the wrong magnet source!� The MRA magnet comes from the big > IBM HD See: > > > > > The source for the 1/4 cylindrical magnets is from Control Data, disk > pack drives. See: > > > On 11/10/2018 2:38 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: >> >> Norm looks like a brake caliper from a Tesla s model� lol >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of >> Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 3:01 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [3 >> Attachments] >> >> BTW, The 1/4 cylindrical section magnets come from these IBM, Main >> Frame HD assemblies!� I salvaged down 100s of them during the 90s. >> Read Write head, linear servo modules. See: >> >> On 11/10/2018 12:37 PM, bart woodard [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: >>> � >>> >>> I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise, >>> the results are immediate. >>> >>> https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html >>> >>> Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments >>> <https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html> >>> hannainst.com >>> Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover >>> can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf >>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] >>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 12:34 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 >>> Attachments] >>> � >>> � >>> >>> No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just >>> followed those that were! >>> >>> On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: >>>> � >>>> >>>> Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!! >>>> >>>> Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium >>>> and fluoride or the molten salt combo? >>>> >>>> On a hobbyist� basis approach? >>>> >>>> Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain >>>> his 1k output!. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf >>>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] >>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* November 9, 2018 3:12 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 >>>> Attachments] >>>> � >>>> � >>>> >>>> Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process >>>> you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & >>>> hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source). >>>> >>>> Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication >>>> experiment. See:� >>>> >>>> *Elemental Replication ?* >>>> >>>> *�* >>>> >>>> ����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis >>>> cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of >>>> exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine >>>> Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will >>>> have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished >>>> by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated >>>> in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity >>>> since this is water with conditions at the time of original >>>> creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend >>>> and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After >>>> several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all >>>> the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher >>>> suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was >>>> selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants >>>> that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the >>>> electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before >>>> with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after >>>> �pristine water�.��� >>>> >>>> >>>> The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was >>>> collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker >>>> for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into >>>> your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� >>>> Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension >>>> of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means >>>> that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the >>>> tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who >>>> were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information >>>> carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a >>>> plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you >>>> flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit >>>> it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up >>>> signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why >>>> the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their >>>> tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We >>>> had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water. >>>> See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology >>>> >>>> Hemorheology - Wikipedia <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology> >>>> en.m.wikipedia.org >>>> Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It >>>> can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. >>>> This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of >>>> friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the >>>> work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is >>>> transported to tissues and organs. >>>> >>>> �� >>>> http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE >>>> �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer >>>> >>>> � https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity >>>> >>>> I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for >>>> production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built >>>> of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not >>>> that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well! >>>> >>>> I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators >>>> and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were >>>> very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested >>>> whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or >>>> pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in >>>> the Elemental replication Part Two. See: >>>> >>>> >>>> Cell Description >>>> >>>> � >>>> >>>> ��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter >>>> of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level >>>> for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen >>>> which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass >>>> condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 >>>> inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has >>>> a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the >>>> interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and >>>> two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost >>>> electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive and >>>> negative terminals are provided for external connection of the >>>> power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack. >>>> >>>> ��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 >>>> cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L >>>> stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness. >>>> >>>> 4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 >>>> ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. >>>> 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. >>>> 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with >>>> alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which >>>> makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the >>>> 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided >>>> copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover >>>> conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell >>>> terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the anode and >>>> cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent >>>> deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please note that >>>> if allowed to come into contact with �charged� surfaces >>>> monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into >>>> their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules. >>>> >>>> ��������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������� >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: >>>>> � >>>>> >>>>> Hi Norm, >>>>> >>>>> The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all >>>>> ferromagnetic but at different spins. >>>>> >>>>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a >>>>> bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully >>>>> would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and >>>>> carbon monoxide, what do you think? >>>>> >>>>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone >>>>> accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for >>>>> water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what >>>>> results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free >>>>> water you put back together from the OH?� >>>>> >>>>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and >>>>> it is extremely painful and debilitating at times. >>>>> >>>>> Mick >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: >>>>>> � >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the >>>>>>> Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, >>>>>>> I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of >>>>>>> methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too >>>>>>> advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See: >>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There >>>>>>> is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot >>>>>>> of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of >>>>>>> splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap >>>>>>> energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that >>>>>>> I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741�� Please read >>>>>>> carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� >>>>>>> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still >>>>>>> had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new >>>>>>> Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from >>>>>>> Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. >>>>>>> They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to >>>>>>> 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over >>>>>>> traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline >>>>>>> fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to >>>>>>> Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and >>>>>>> Aquastone at considerable savings." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be >>>>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or >>>>>>> on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM >>>>>>> TECHNOLOGY PART 2_* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated >>>>>>> his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla >>>>>>> Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any >>>>>>> temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the >>>>>>> need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam >>>>>>> of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam >>>>>>> at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI >>>>>>> with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system >>>>>>> operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, >>>>>>> diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and >>>>>>> converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: >>>>>>> The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the >>>>>>> unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled >>>>>>> air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition >>>>>>> resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. >>>>>>> This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full >>>>>>> spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the >>>>>>> increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could >>>>>>> this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and >>>>>>> oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy >>>>>>> resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was >>>>>>> addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the >>>>>>> "Engineering News Record". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical >>>>>>> way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is >>>>>>> needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and >>>>>>> cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be >>>>>>> developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and >>>>>>> ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can >>>>>>> also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or >>>>>>> sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water >>>>>>> both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting >>>>>>> applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and >>>>>>> sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where >>>>>>> contamination has occurred. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water >>>>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high >>>>>>> frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments >>>>>>> with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with >>>>>>> Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the >>>>>>> Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� >>>>>>> The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying >>>>>>> the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� >>>>>>> Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction >>>>>>> generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested >>>>>>> them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits >>>>>>> to release crude oil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: >>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H) * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *�* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency >>>>>>> resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the >>>>>>> feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit >>>>>>> was designed for vehicle application and had too many >>>>>>> limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This >>>>>>> type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it >>>>>>> targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which >>>>>>> breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen >>>>>>> atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system >>>>>>> that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled >>>>>>> the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *�* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, >>>>>>> reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the >>>>>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and >>>>>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in >>>>>>> one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could >>>>>>> be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder >>>>>>> form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for >>>>>>> the most efficient hydrogen production with the least >>>>>>> undesirable output material.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *�* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above >>>>>>> 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the >>>>>>> process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that >>>>>>> easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) >>>>>>> more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the >>>>>>> stoichiometric feed stock ratios.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres >>>>>>> of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype >>>>>>> machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in >>>>>>> 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the >>>>>>> process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I >>>>>>> was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, >>>>>>> Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 >>>>>>> miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow >>>>>>> grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I >>>>>>> suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the >>>>>>> entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South >>>>>>> Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just >>>>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may >>>>>>> be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have >>>>>>> been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� >>>>>>> As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come >>>>>>> visit from PR!� Lol >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote: >>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i >>>>>>>> never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than >>>>>>>> death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost >>>>>>>> by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will >>>>>>>> loose all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered >>>>>>>> that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they >>>>>>>> will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that >>>>>>>> will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (H)� � >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >>>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cmon Hector, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bad taste! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his >>>>>>>> work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he >>>>>>>> desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone >>>>>>>> fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is >>>>>>>> still kind enough to help point us in the right directions >>>>>>>> around here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "*Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on >>>>>>>> challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve >>>>>>>> accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my >>>>>>>> legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...> >>>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a >>>>>>>>> breeding bull with no balls ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my >>>>>>>>> opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have >>>>>>>>> no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a >>>>>>>>> phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we >>>>>>>>> get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find >>>>>>>>> them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I >>>>>>>>> have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find you >>>>>>>>> statement very interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % >>>>>>>>> of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to >>>>>>>>> me extremely inefficient.�� >>>>>>>>> ??????������� Care to share where you saw >>>>>>>>> the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We >>>>>>>>> all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on >>>>>>>>> the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any >>>>>>>>> way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the >>>>>>>>> dialog when I run across something interesting and think >>>>>>>>> it will assist you guys!�� Norm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... >>>>>>>>> <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Norman, >>>>>>>>>> But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to >>>>>>>>>> split water known to you! >>>>>>>>>> I realize there are a lot of different technigues to >>>>>>>>>> do just that. >>>>>>>>>> And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex >>>>>>>>>> answer. But instead i hope for a >>>>>>>>>> rather easy and reproductive answer since i am >>>>>>>>>> looking forward to solve my enerrgy >>>>>>>>>> problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad >>>>>>>>>> and very stupid energy situation) >>>>>>>>>> I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes >>>>>>>>>> and misunderstandings. >>>>>>>>>> If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a >>>>>>>>>> most efficient car available on the market >>>>>>>>>> i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there >>>>>>>>>> are a lot of cars with better fuel economie >>>>>>>>>> even without being a hybrid and without additional >>>>>>>>>> cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours >>>>>>>>>> with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely >>>>>>>>>> inefficient. >>>>>>>>>> Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output >>>>>>>>>> of 1,6 ltr/min. >>>>>>>>>> Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this >>>>>>>>>> job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it. >>>>>>>>>> I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way >>>>>>>>>> boy, i just talking around. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' >>>>>>>>>> Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for >>>>>>>>>> solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply >>>>>>>>>> and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it. >>>>>>>>>> Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the >>>>>>>>>> people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care >>>>>>>>>> about what he/she will be doing tomorrow. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jakob >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic >>>>>>>>>> Battery >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool" >>>>>>>>>> <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob >>>>>>>>>> Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, >>>>>>>>>> "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" >>>>>>>>>> <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...> >>>>>>>>>> Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer >>>>>>>>>> but here is your >>>>>>>>>> starting point! >>>>>>>>>> https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html��� >>>>>>>>>> After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION >>>>>>>>>> Research >>>>>>>>>> back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best >>>>>>>>>> catalyst in >>>>>>>>>> electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have >>>>>>>>>> the cell >>>>>>>>>> used in the Elemental Replication experiments. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm���� >>>>>>>>>> The hidden >>>>>>>>>> part of this research is the use of a nickel component >>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>> combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition >>>>>>>>>> systems to >>>>>>>>>> enable water injection in gas engine which high >>>>>>>>>> lighted the >>>>>>>>>> Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC >>>>>>>>>> discharge! >>>>>>>>>> My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell >>>>>>>>>> to produce >>>>>>>>>> hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as >>>>>>>>>> shown by >>>>>>>>>> the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to >>>>>>>>>> pursue the super >>>>>>>>>> high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an >>>>>>>>>> electrolytic >>>>>>>>>> cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid >>>>>>>>>> collection >>>>>>>>>> of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a >>>>>>>>>> .020" >>>>>>>>>> mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a >>>>>>>>>> super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC >>>>>>>>>> power supply. >>>>>>>>>> You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water >>>>>>>>>> and the gaps >>>>>>>>>> will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms >>>>>>>>>> after a short >>>>>>>>>> period of running, the gathered ions totally short >>>>>>>>>> cell. During >>>>>>>>>> the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas >>>>>>>>>> produced� >>>>>>>>>> which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be >>>>>>>>>> said about >>>>>>>>>> driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers >>>>>>>>>> research >>>>>>>>>> showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman, >>>>>>>>>> Eagle Research >>>>>>>>>> is running well ahead of the crowd on the production >>>>>>>>>> of H-H-O. >>>>>>>>>> Just for giggles! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 16 October >>>>>>>>>> 1996 >>>>>>>>>> To: Hal >>>>>>>>>> Fox,� Fusion Facts >>>>>>>>>> Elemental >>>>>>>>>> Replication ? >>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>> ����� Around mid >>>>>>>>>> September >>>>>>>>>> I put together an >>>>>>>>>> electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold >>>>>>>>>> Fusion Cell >>>>>>>>>> with the goal of >>>>>>>>>> exploring the possibilities of making what is >>>>>>>>>> termed �Pristine >>>>>>>>>> Water�.�� This water >>>>>>>>>> which will be used by Homeopaths >>>>>>>>>> will have had all memory or information >>>>>>>>>> removed.� This is accomplished by >>>>>>>>>> recombining monatomic >>>>>>>>>> hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a >>>>>>>>>> properly >>>>>>>>>> designed cell.� This is >>>>>>>>>> the ultimate in purity since this is >>>>>>>>>> water with conditions at the time of original >>>>>>>>>> creation.� �Holly Water�is a term >>>>>>>>>> coined by my dear >>>>>>>>>> friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of >>>>>>>>>> Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of >>>>>>>>>> successful operation >>>>>>>>>> producing water that had all the earmarks of a >>>>>>>>>> true �pristine >>>>>>>>>> water� a fellow >>>>>>>>>> researcher suggested using an alternate >>>>>>>>>> electrolyte.�� A solution was selected >>>>>>>>>> that contained 77 >>>>>>>>>> colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the >>>>>>>>>> easiest >>>>>>>>>> assimilated into the >>>>>>>>>> body.�� With the >>>>>>>>>> electrolyte changed the >>>>>>>>>> cell was put back into operation as before with a >>>>>>>>>> nice >>>>>>>>>> recombination burn and >>>>>>>>>> production of the sought after �pristine >>>>>>>>>> water�.������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������� >>>>>>>>>> ������� >>>>>>>>>> ��� After about an >>>>>>>>>> hour of >>>>>>>>>> operation the cell >>>>>>>>>> went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature >>>>>>>>>> rapidly climbing >>>>>>>>>> to boiling point >>>>>>>>>> and the current out of sight.� >>>>>>>>>> When the >>>>>>>>>> cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> shorted the cell >>>>>>>>>> plates.�� Our first >>>>>>>>>> thought was that the >>>>>>>>>> electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal >>>>>>>>>> minerals >>>>>>>>>> which caused the >>>>>>>>>> deposit found.�� The� >>>>>>>>>> electrolyte was allowed >>>>>>>>>> to settle out the >>>>>>>>>> precipitate.�� After� >>>>>>>>>> decanting off,� the clear electrolyte >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> returned to the >>>>>>>>>> cell for another run. Again the cell operated >>>>>>>>>> normally for >>>>>>>>>> about an hour with a >>>>>>>>>> normal recombination burn and recovery of the >>>>>>>>>> water being >>>>>>>>>> consumed by the cell >>>>>>>>>> in the splitting action.�� Again >>>>>>>>>> the cell >>>>>>>>>> temperature and current mirrored the first >>>>>>>>>> run.� >>>>>>>>>> Again the cell contained the same amount of >>>>>>>>>> sludge >>>>>>>>>> residue.�� This process >>>>>>>>>> was repeated ten (10) times >>>>>>>>>> with exactly the same results.�� >>>>>>>>>> All of >>>>>>>>>> the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an >>>>>>>>>> electronic >>>>>>>>>> scale with a five >>>>>>>>>> decimal >>>>>>>>>> resolution.��������������������� >>>>>>>>>> The cell plates and all hardware were >>>>>>>>>> weighed to >>>>>>>>>> determine any loss of >>>>>>>>>> mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed >>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>> sludge.� Five hundred >>>>>>>>>> (500) ml of the original >>>>>>>>>> electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum >>>>>>>>>> distilled to >>>>>>>>>> determine the >>>>>>>>>> exact mass of colloidal minerals >>>>>>>>>> contained.� >>>>>>>>>> When all factors were considered we came >>>>>>>>>> out with a >>>>>>>>>> mass gain of� 48 gm >>>>>>>>>> which cannot be explained by >>>>>>>>>> conventional >>>>>>>>>> electrolysis.���������������������� >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ��� After talking >>>>>>>>>> to Dr. >>>>>>>>>> Robert Bass and Hal >>>>>>>>>> Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> transmutation of elements >>>>>>>>>> in the cold fusion cell which is the process that >>>>>>>>>> Dr. John >>>>>>>>>> Bockris has been so >>>>>>>>>> active in.�� Both Dr. >>>>>>>>>> Bass and Hal Fox >>>>>>>>>> stated that what I was observing is not the same >>>>>>>>>> as the >>>>>>>>>> transmutation observed >>>>>>>>>> in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall >>>>>>>>>> mass gain and >>>>>>>>>> not a lateral >>>>>>>>>> movement of elements in the periodic table toward >>>>>>>>>> lighter >>>>>>>>>> elements with a >>>>>>>>>> resulting heat release.� This >>>>>>>>>> unusual >>>>>>>>>> cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the >>>>>>>>>> scientific >>>>>>>>>> community. �At this >>>>>>>>>> time I have built a complete new cell >>>>>>>>>> with every possible factor which could possibly >>>>>>>>>> explain the >>>>>>>>>> mass gain >>>>>>>>>> considered and documented.� The >>>>>>>>>> ten (10) >>>>>>>>>> consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed >>>>>>>>>> soon and a >>>>>>>>>> report will be >>>>>>>>>> forthcoming.�� What is >>>>>>>>>> interesting about >>>>>>>>>> this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was >>>>>>>>>> made with the >>>>>>>>>> original >>>>>>>>>> electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was >>>>>>>>>> recovered >>>>>>>>>> as in the previous >>>>>>>>>> ten >>>>>>>>>> runs.����������������������������������������������������������������������� >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>> Since >>>>>>>>>> the same electrolyte is reused each time with only >>>>>>>>>> distilled >>>>>>>>>> water being added >>>>>>>>>> to replace the volume lost by the removal of the >>>>>>>>>> solids and >>>>>>>>>> the water recovered >>>>>>>>>> by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to >>>>>>>>>> explain the >>>>>>>>>> observed >>>>>>>>>> phenomenon.���� The >>>>>>>>>> electrolyte appears >>>>>>>>>> stronger in mineral concentration and shows no >>>>>>>>>> sign of >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> depletion.�������������������������������� >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> �� After conferring >>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> Joe Tyls we arrived at >>>>>>>>>> the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals >>>>>>>>>> contained in the >>>>>>>>>> electrolyte >>>>>>>>>> provide the atomic templates needed for the >>>>>>>>>> monatomic hydrogen >>>>>>>>>> (father of all >>>>>>>>>> the elements) to replicate selected elements in >>>>>>>>>> this exotic >>>>>>>>>> mixture.� If you >>>>>>>>>> subscribe to the theories of the late >>>>>>>>>> Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave >>>>>>>>>> based >>>>>>>>>> periodic table with >>>>>>>>>> monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as >>>>>>>>>> hydrons >>>>>>>>>> (precursor to hydrogen) >>>>>>>>>> then it is possible for the replication of >>>>>>>>>> elements directly >>>>>>>>>> from energy input >>>>>>>>>> alone.� This is how all >>>>>>>>>> matter was >>>>>>>>>> created in the beginning as described by >>>>>>>>>> Schappeller in �The >>>>>>>>>> Physics of the >>>>>>>>>> Primary State of Matter�.��� I >>>>>>>>>> will keep >>>>>>>>>> all informed as to our progress and findings in >>>>>>>>>> this very >>>>>>>>>> intriguing venture. >>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>> Norman >>>>>>>>>> Wootan >>>>>>>>>> P.O. >>>>>>>>>> Box 141049 >>>>>>>>>> Dallas, >>>>>>>>>> TX 75214 >>>>>>>>>> (214) >>>>>>>>>> 360-0865 >>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>> CC:� Gene Mallove, >>>>>>>>>> Infinite >>>>>>>>>> Energy >>>>>>>>>> CC:� Dr. John >>>>>>>>>> Bockris, Texas >>>>>>>>>> A/M >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM, >>>>>>>>>> Jakob Wall >>>>>>>>>> wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...> >>>>>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Norman, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> BTW, what is the most effective water split >>>>>>>>>> device that >>>>>>>>>> you ever put you hands on? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As HHO researcher for dekades you should be >>>>>>>>>> able to point >>>>>>>>>> us directly to the most effective known! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please be specific about reconstruction of the >>>>>>>>>> same, since >>>>>>>>>> we are in public domain it will become public >>>>>>>>>> knowledge >>>>>>>>>> and public good. I assume you intend nothing >>>>>>>>>> else,rigth ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> >>>>>>>>>> [EVGRAY] >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's >>>>>>>>>> Magnetic >>>>>>>>>> Battery [3 Attachments] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, >>>>>>>>>> "Bob >>>>>>>>>> Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, >>>>>>>>>> "joel mcclain" >>>>>>>>>> <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, >>>>>>>>>> "Jon Gentry" >>>>>>>>>> <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, >>>>>>>>>> "Lane Wootan" >>>>>>>>>> <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>, >>>>>>>>>> "Mbking42" >>>>>>>>>> <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, >>>>>>>>>> "Toby Grotz" >>>>>>>>>> <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, >>>>>>>>>> "Phil Rembold" >>>>>>>>>> <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, >>>>>>>>>> "Angel Alvarez" >>>>>>>>>> <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, >>>>>>>>>> "Fredric Fletcher" >>>>>>>>>> <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>, >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To understand the unwinding of a thread >>>>>>>>>> leading >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> to Magnetic >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery, >>>>>>>>>> we have >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> to dust off >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> our� 9th grade Chemistry Books! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm����� >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I guess Dr. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic >>>>>>>>>> Current. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (Jon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump >>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> that you can >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> make the helix tube Vortex!� >>>>>>>>>> Ferricpetacarbonyl or >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> micro fine neo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> powder to provide the liquid metal for pump >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> circuit. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lots of reading here!���� Please think >>>>>>>>>> about the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ramifications of >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr. >>>>>>>>>> Ehrenhaft! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777 -- >>>>>>>>>> #yiv6050531777ygrp-mkp { >>>>>>>>>> border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px >>>>>>>>>> 0;padding:0 10px;} >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-mkp hr { >>>>>>>>>> border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 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