Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery

And i am really thankfull for your sharing Norm!
Some sites you linked, i would not had found in another 20 years!

You provided this link. https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html 

But since my browser does not open kundoc sites (safety issues) i googled direct-thermodynamic-splittinng-of-water and found this.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0360319979901253

I think thats the article, and not the magnet get used up but the magnetic force of the magnet, sorry for my poor english, just give me another decade here and i will learn it eventually.

Norm i am really did not intend to affend  you. Sorry that it came out wrong

Jakob
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On Mon, 11/5/18, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
 To: [email protected]
 Received: Monday, November 5, 2018, 4:42 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       
   
   
     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my
 opinion!  I'm
       totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to
 experiment in! 
       Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher
 who said. ''
       Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions,
 not to find
       them!''   That certainly does not apply to
 me for I have shared
       all with the folks on this site.  I find you
 statement very
       interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet
 in 24 hours
       with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
 inefficient.  
       ??????        Care to share where you saw the
 power of a permanent
       magnet being used up!   We all here on this site
 share what ever
       knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking
 any monetary
       gain in any way! That is my approach!   I just
 contribute to the
       dialog when I run across something interesting and
 think it will
       assist you guys!   Norm
 
     
     
 
     On 11/3/2018
 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall
       [email protected]
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
     
     
       
        
       
           
             Thanks Norman,
 
               But i actually asced for ''most
 efficient way'' to split
               water known to you!
 
               I realize there are a lot of different
 technigues to do
               just that.
 
               And yes i realize you could give me a rather
 complex
               answer. But instead i hope for a 
 
               rather easy and reproductive answer since i am
 looking
               forward to solve my enerrgy 
 
               problems i just can not live with the
 momentary (sad and
               very stupid energy situation)
 
               I am still not giving up becouse of a couple
 mistakes and
               misunderstandings.
 
               If i would be a car dealer and you would ask
 me for a most
               efficient car available on the market
 
               i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since
 there are a
               lot of cars with better fuel economie
 
               even without being a hybrid and without
 additional cost
               like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added
 ECU's
 
               
 
               Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24
 hours with
               usual amount of gas looks to me extremely 
 
               inefficient.
 
               Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with
 output of 1,6
               ltr/min.
 
               Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery
 does this job,
               no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
 
               I honestly expected solide advise or a honest
 NO way boy,
               i just talking around.
 
               
 
               I heard once a phrase from a researcher who
 said. '' Slow
               down boy, we get paid for llooking for
 
               solutions, not to find them!'' That
 shoked me deeply and
               even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget
 it.
 
               Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the
 people. I
               really hope nobody on this forum only care 
 
               about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
 
               
 
               Jakob
 
               
 
              
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               On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan [email protected]
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               <[email protected]>
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               Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
 Magnetic
               Battery
 
               To: [email protected],
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 "Bob Paddock"
               <[email protected]>,
 "joel mcclain"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Jon Gentry"
               <[email protected]>,
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               <[email protected]>,
 "Toby Grotz"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Phil Rembold"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Angel Alvarez"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Fredric Fletcher"
               <[email protected]>
 
               Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
 
   
 
               Jacob!  That would be a rather complex
 answer
 
               but here is your
 
               starting point!
 
 https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
 
               After having been heavily involved in the COLD
 FUSION
 
               Research
 
               back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n
 the best
 
               catalyst in
 
               electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I
 still have
 
               the cell
 
               used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
 
 
               
 
               
 
               http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
 
               The hidden
 
               part of this research is the use of a nickel
 component
 
               in the
 
               combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V
 ignition
 
               systems to
 
discharge!
 
               My magnetic Battery when run as an
 electrolytic cell
 
               to produce
 
               hydrogen does produce a huge amount of
 hydrogen gas as
 
               shown by
 
               the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you
 to
 
               pursue the super
 
               high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes
 in an
 
               electrolytic
 
               cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is
 the rapid
 
               collection
 
               of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux
 across a
 
               .020"
 
               mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell
 into a
 
               super-conduction mode which takes out the
 driving DC
 
               power supply.
 
               You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled
 water
 
               and the gaps
 
               will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero
 ohms
 
               after a short
 
               period of running, the gathered ions totally
 short
 
               cell. During
 
               the brief runs there is a huge amount of
 hydrogen gas
 
               produced 
 
               which I burned off as it was generated.  Much
 can be
 
               said about
 
               driving the cell with high frequencies as the
 Myers
 
               research
 
               showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George
 Wiseman,
 
               Eagle Research
 
               is running well ahead of the crowd on the
 production
 
       
   Just for giggles!
 
               
 
               
 
               16 October
 
               1996
 
               To: Hal
 
               Fox,  Fusion Facts
 
               Elemental
 
               Replication ?
 
                
 
                     Around mid
 
               September
 
               I put together an
 
               electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel
 Cold
 
               Fusion Cell
 
               with the goal of
 
               exploring the possibilities of making what
 is
 
               termed “Pristine
 
               Water”.   This water
 
               which will be used by Homeopaths
 
               will have had all memory or information
 
               removed.  This is accomplished by
 
               recombining monatomic
 
               hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in
 a
 
               properly
 
               designed cell.  This is
 
               the ultimate in purity since this is
 
               water with conditions at the time of
 original
 
               creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
 
               coined by my dear
 
               friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
 
               Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
 
               successful operation
 
               producing water that had all the earmarks of
 a
 
               true “pristine
 
               water” a fellow
 
               researcher suggested using an alternate
 
               electrolyte.   A solution was selected
 
               that contained 77
 
               colloidal minerals as found in plants that are
 the
 
               easiest
 
               assimilated into the
 
               body.   With the
 
               electrolyte changed the
 
               cell was put back into operation as before
 with a
 
               nice
 
               recombination burn and
 
               production of the sought after “pristine
 
 water”.                                                                                                                                     
 
                      
 
                   After about an
 
               hour of
 
               operation the cell
 
               went absolutely “nuts” with the
 temperature
 
               rapidly climbing
 
               to boiling point
 
               and the current out of sight. 
 
               When the
 
               cell was opened we found a deep red sludge
 deposit
 
               which
 
               shorted the cell
 
               plates.   Our first
 
               thought was that the
 
               electrolytic action precipitated out the
 colloidal
 
               minerals
 
               which caused the
 
               deposit found.   The 
 
               electrolyte was allowed
 
               to settle out the
 
               precipitate.   After 
 
               decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
 
               was
 
               returned to the
 
               cell for another run. Again the cell
 operated
 
               normally for
 
               about an hour with a
 
               normal recombination burn and recovery of
 the
 
               water being
 
               consumed by the cell
 
               in the splitting action.   Again
 
               the cell
 
               temperature and current mirrored the first
 
               run. 
 
               Again the cell contained the same amount of
 
               sludge
 
               residue.   This process
 
               was repeated ten (10) times
 
               with exactly the same results.  
 
               All of
 
               the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on
 an
 
               electronic
 
               scale with a five
 
               decimal
 
              
 resolution.                     
 
               The cell plates and all hardware were
 
               weighed to
 
               determine any loss of
 
               mass that may contribute to the mass gain
 observed
 
               in the
 
               sludge.  Five hundred
 
               (500) ml of the original
 
               electrolyte solution used in the cell was
 vacuum
 
               distilled to
 
               determine the
 
               exact mass of colloidal minerals
 
               contained. 
 
               When all factors were considered we came
 
               out with a
 
               mass gain of  48 gm
 
               which cannot be explained by
 
               conventional
 
              
 electrolysis.                      
 
               
 
                   After talking
 
               to Dr.
 
               Robert Bass and Hal
 
               Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed
 on
 
               the
 
               transmutation of elements
 
               in the cold fusion cell which is the process
 that
 
               Dr. John
 
               Bockris has been so
 
               active in.   Both Dr.
 
               Bass and Hal Fox
 
               stated that what I was observing is not the
 same
 
               as the
 
               transmutation observed
 
               in the cold fusion cell since I have a
 overall
 
               mass gain and
 
               not a lateral
 
               movement of elements in the periodic table
 toward
 
               lighter
 
               elements with a
 
               resulting heat release.  This
 
               unusual
 
               cell operation has caused quite a reaction in
 the
 
               scientific
 
               community.  At this
 
               time I have built a complete new cell
 
               with every possible factor which could
 possibly
 
               explain the
 
               mass gain
 
               considered and documented.  The
 
               ten (10)
 
               consecutive runs on the new cell will be
 completed
 
               soon and a
 
               report will be
 
               forthcoming.   What is
 
               interesting about
 
               this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run
 was
 
               made with the
 
               original
 
               electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue
 was
 
               recovered
 
               as in the previous
 
               ten
 
 runs.                                                                       
 
               
 
                
 
               Since
 
               the same electrolyte is reused each time with
 only
 
               distilled
 
               water being added
 
               to replace the volume lost by the removal of
 the
 
               solids and
 
               the water recovered
 
               by the recombination burn we are hard pressed
 to
 
               explain the
 
               observed
 
               phenomenon.     The
 
               electrolyte appears
 
               stronger in mineral concentration and shows
 no
 
               sign of
 
               
 
              
 depletion.                                
 
               
 
                  After conferring
 
               with
 
               Joe Tyls we arrived at
 
               the conclusion that the 77 colloidal
 minerals
 
               contained in the
 
               electrolyte
 
               provide the atomic templates needed for the
 
               monatomic hydrogen
 
               (father of all
 
               the elements) to replicate selected elements
 in
 
               this exotic
 
               mixture.  If you
 
               subscribe to the theories of the late
 
               Walter Russell and his explanation of the
 octave
 
               based
 
               periodic table with
 
               monatonic hydrogen being what he describes
 as
 
               hydrons
 
               (precursor to hydrogen)
 
               then it is possible for the replication of
 
               elements directly
 
               from energy input
 
               alone.  This is how all
 
               matter was
 
               created in the beginning as described by
 
               Schappeller in “The
 
               Physics of the
 
               Primary State of Matter”.    I
 
               will keep
 
               all informed as to our progress and findings
 in
 
               this very
 
               intriguing venture.
 
                
 
               Norman
 
               Wootan
 
               P.O.
 
               Box 141049
 
               Dallas,
 
               TX 75214
 
               (214)
 
               360-0865
 
                
 
                
 
               CC:  Gene Mallove,
 
               Infinite
 
               Energy
 
               CC:  Dr. John
 
               Bockris, Texas