Electrostatic machine roughly 1 kilowatt per pound

Norm,

Have a look at these patents, I think we are talking home power now via
electrostatics!


http://www.freepatentsonline.com/2194839.html

"The power which can be delivered by an electrostatic generating
apparatus of the type described may be illustrated by the following
example. If it is assumed that the rotor (as in Figs. 1 and 2) has ten
members of sixteen poles each with an external rotor diameter of 24
inches and a hub diameter of 6 inches and the separation between the
adjoining rotor and stator poles is 6 millimeters, and it is further
assumed that the rotor is rotated at a speed of 3600 revolutions per
minute, with a substantially constant output voltage E at 100,000 volts
and a constant inducing potential V at 100,000 volts impressed on the
rotor, then the electrical power output of such a machine would be about
20 kilowatts. It will be seen that, under these assumptions, a machine
of these physical characteristics possesses a power compactness
comparable with present electro-magnetic machines and makes available in
a single unit electrostatically generated direct current power of very
high voltage."


Variable capacitance electrostatic modification to above

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3107326.html

Mick!  Someone on this site asked about more info on vacuum 
electrostatic generators and I can tell you that there is a ton of info 
out there on how to build but! No one can explain just where the 
electrons come from since they operate in a vacuum dielectric media!  
Interesting!  Back when Joel & I were publishing the MRA, our friend 
Charles Yost (RIP) Electric Space Craft Journal, published an 
interesting article from the Encyclopedia Britannica. It clearly 
explained how a variable capacitance electrostatic machine was 
over-unity. We know this machine to be the Hyde Generator. It works just 
like the old air variable tuning capacitors (gang plate variable)  I 
built one of these generators and it does work just as described. I 
etched the gang plates, rotor and stator pie shaped capacitor plates so 
that when rotated at 3600 RPM it created the rapidly changing 
capacitance values of the unit and gave a pulsed output of HV 
electrostatic charge. There are two methods of generating charge. One is 
the old variable inductance generators where you pay the LENZ penalty of 
mutual inductance and the variable capacitance method where you do not 
have the LENZ effect.  All of the influence machines that I built both 
the Whinshurst and Holtz machines could be turned by hand with no LENZ 
drag effects.  My best Holtz machine used two small DC motors turning 
the disk counter rotation and suffered no drag effects other than 
windage, (air friction). That is the reason the high powered machines 
operate in a vacuum or Hydrogen dielectric media.  That eliminates the 
windage losses (air drag).    I was fascinated by all the articles on 
John G. Trump, MIT Professor who was instrumental in analyzing the Tesla 
papers after his death at Hiotle New Yorker in 1943.  There is a lot of 
speculation regarding his involvment in the Tesla papers.  Just remember 
that his patent work at MIT was long before Teslas' death, mostly around 
1936-38 time frame. He worked with Van de Graff on these Vacuum 
Electrostatic Generators.

https://federicovitaleblog.wordpress.com/2017/05/04/raytheon-trump-tesla-patent-raytheon-patents-bush-trump/

https://libraries.mit.edu/archives/research/collections/collections-mc/mc223.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Trump

Mick!  It is obvious after reading the power that is output by vacuum 
electrostatic machines that there has to be an Aetheric tapping that 
extracts electrons from some unknown source! Ideas????   Norm  PS: I 
agree that without the LENZ effect, we have a great opportunity to 
develop our source of DC power.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4151409.html

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4054826

https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/capacitor/cap_1.html

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9184676

I  just marvel over the Felici machine which puts out an impressive 3KW 
at ultra HVDC!

http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=teslaring;id=1;url=http%3A%2F%2Fu2%2Elege%2Enet%2Fnewebmasters%2Ecom__freeenergy%2Fexternal_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet%2Ecom%2Fhighvoltage%2FHVgenerator%2FHVgenerator%2Ehtm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AElectrostatic_generator


On 10/9/2018 11:49 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> Have a look at these patents, I think we are talking home power now 
> via electrostatics!
>
>
> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/2194839.html
>
> "The power which can be delivered by an electrostatic generating 
> apparatus of the type described may be illustrated by the following 
> example. If it is assumed that the rotor (as in Figs. 1 and 2) has ten 
> members of sixteen poles each with an external rotor diameter of 24 
> inches and a hub diameter of 6 inches and the separation between the 
> adjoining rotor and stator poles is 6 millimeters, and it is further 
> assumed that the rotor is rotated at a speed of 3600 revolutions per 
> minute, with a substantially constant output voltage E at 100,000 
> volts and a constant inducing potential V at 100,000 volts impressed 
> on the rotor, then the electrical power output of such a machine would 
> be about 20 kilowatts. It will be seen that, under these assumptions, 
> a machine of these physical characteristics possesses a power 
> compactness comparable with present electro-magnetic machines and 
> makes available in a single unit electrostatically generated direct 
> current power of very high voltage."
>
>
> Variable capacitance electrostatic modification to above
>
> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3107326.html
>
>

https://patents.google.com/patent/US2697793    After you read this 
lengthy description of the problem with the Van de Graff belt transfer 
method, you will so why they elected to go the Vacuum dielectric media 
approach!


On 10/10/2018 9:30 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Mick!  Someone on this site asked about more info on vacuum 
> electrostatic generators and I can tell you that there is a ton of 
> info out there on how to build but! No one can explain just where the 
> electrons come from since they operate in a vacuum dielectric media!  
> Interesting!  Back when Joel & I were publishing the MRA, our friend 
> Charles Yost (RIP) Electric Space Craft Journal, published an 
> interesting article from the Encyclopedia Britannica. It clearly 
> explained how a variable capacitance electrostatic machine was 
> over-unity. We know this machine to be the Hyde Generator. It works 
> just like the old air variable tuning capacitors (gang plate 
> variable)  I built one of these generators and it does work just as 
> described. I etched the gang plates, rotor and stator pie shaped 
> capacitor plates so that when rotated at 3600 RPM it created the 
> rapidly changing capacitance values of the unit and gave a pulsed 
> output of HV electrostatic charge.  There are two methods of 
> generating charge. One is the old variable inductance generators where 
> you pay the LENZ penalty of mutual inductance and the variable 
> capacitance method where you do not have the LENZ effect.  All of the 
> influence machines that I built both the Whinshurst and Holtz machines 
> could be turned by hand with no LENZ drag effects.  My best Holtz 
> machine used two small DC motors turning the disk counter rotation and 
> suffered no drag effects other than windage, (air friction). That is 
> the reason the high powered machines operate in a vacuum or Hydrogen 
> dielectric media.  That eliminates the windage losses (air drag).    I 
> was fascinated by all the articles on John G. Trump, MIT Professor who 
> was instrumental in analyzing the Tesla papers after his death at 
> Hiotle New Yorker in 1943.  There is a lot of speculation regarding 
> his involvment in the Tesla papers.  Just remember that his patent 
> work at MIT was long before Teslas' death, mostly around 1936-38 time 
> frame. He worked with Van de Graff on these Vacuum Electrostatic 
> Generators.
>
> https://federicovitaleblog.wordpress.com/2017/05/04/raytheon-trump-tesla-patent-raytheon-patents-bush-trump/
>
> https://libraries.mit.edu/archives/research/collections/collections-mc/mc223.html
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Trump
>
> Mick!  It is obvious after reading the power that is output by vacuum 
> electrostatic machines that there has to be an Aetheric tapping that 
> extracts electrons from some unknown source! Ideas????   Norm  PS: I 
> agree that without the LENZ effect, we have a great opportunity to 
> develop our source of DC power.
>
> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4151409.html
>
> https://patents.google.com/patent/US4054826
>
> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/capacitor/cap_1.html
>
> https://patents.google.com/patent/US9184676
>
> I  just marvel over the Felici machine which puts out an impressive 
> 3KW at ultra HVDC!
>
> http://www.webring.org/l/rd?ring=teslaring;id=1;url=http%3A%2F%2Fu2%2Elege%2Enet%2Fnewebmasters%2Ecom__freeenergy%2Fexternal_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet%2Ecom%2Fhighvoltage%2FHVgenerator%2FHVgenerator%2Ehtm
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AElectrostatic_generator
>
>
> On 10/9/2018 11:49 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> Have a look at these patents, I think we are talking home power now 
>> via electrostatics!
>>
>>
>> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/2194839.html
>>
>> "The power which can be delivered by an electrostatic generating 
>> apparatus of the type described may be illustrated by the following 
>> example. If it is assumed that the rotor (as in Figs. 1 and 2) has 
>> ten members of sixteen poles each with an external rotor diameter of 
>> 24 inches and a hub diameter of 6 inches and the separation between 
>> the adjoining rotor and stator poles is 6 millimeters, and it is 
>> further assumed that the rotor is rotated at a speed of 3600 
>> revolutions per minute, with a substantially constant output voltage 
>> E at 100,000 volts and a constant inducing potential V at 100,000 
>> volts impressed on the rotor, then the electrical power output of 
>> such a machine would be about 20 kilowatts. It will be seen that, 
>> under these assumptions, a machine of these physical characteristics 
>> possesses a power compactness comparable with present 
>> electro-magnetic machines and makes available in a single unit 
>> electrostatically generated direct current power of very high voltage."
>>
>>
>> Variable capacitance electrostatic modification to above
>>
>> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3107326.html
>>
>> 
>