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Re: [EVGRAY] Re: water heaters

2 messages · 2018-08-26T03:41:11+00:00 → 2018-08-26T14:25:56+00:00

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2018-08-26T03:41:11+00:00 · pafim1 <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves, that we are underlings".  Shakespeare

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On Sat, 8/25/18, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: water heaters
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
 Date: Saturday, August 25, 2018, 6:39 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       DougContemplating
 air to liquid heat pump artangement for first off the start
 heating system. It is all off the shelf except the software
 for the heat pump compressor drive.Looking
 for a software guy who might be able to hack an air to air
 system to handle a liquid heat exchanger, instead of an air
 handler fan and rad as supplied stock.Europeans
 are much more advanced than Canadian installations, I have
 been told.Non
 of this precludes other additional parallel systems to add
 heat.
 From
 what Mike tells me, the brushless motors on the compressors,
 speed up and slow down as conditions change, operated by
 logic sensors, within the factory stock program.Throwing
 a monkey wrench into the ordered system, such as unknown
 devices in parallel, may cause it to malfunction.I
 like my machines to be less fussy, with a greater tolerance
 for error, usually only available with steam punk Variacs,
 and knife switches.But
 I can freeze my ass off in October in this evil climate
 without heat, here in this part of Canada.Expedience
 is part of the immediate equation, with little fooling
 around. The days are getting shorter, unlike where Hector
 is, with a uniform 6:00 am to 6:00 pm daylight, year
 round.Not
 around here!Cheers
 Warren
 Sent
 from Yahoo Mail on Android 
    On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 at 8:26
 PM, Warren
 Keillor<[email protected]>
 wrote:   
 DougInteresting!Sounds
 easy to make.My
 system is very flexible to accept any heat source, I
 think.At
 present, it will be an air to air electric heat pump, which
 is only about three times as efficient as a Chromalux type
 resistance hot water heater. It will use about 10 amps of
 220 volts to warm the concrete floor of a stone barn
 18'x36' inside measurement with walls 2'
 thick.As
 you know, I have s good collection of motors.Until
 this workshop is up, and running, my machine shop is an
 oxyacetylene cutting torch, drill press and an old Lincoln
 225 amp arc welder. I hsve been able to fo a lot of heavy
 work so far, bit dither around wishing to get my big lathe
 and milling machine, up and running.Do
 you have further info on this heat source, and the possible
 efficiency of it?Cheers
 Warren
 Sent
 from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  
 On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 at 6:35 PM, [email protected]
 [EVGRAY]<[email protected]>
 wrote:   
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Hi Warren and Mick
 
 Super easy simple and cheap to make rotating heater
 
 Go to youtube xearch type in fuel less heater or friction
 heater.
 
 It's simply metal can with holes drilled in that spins
 inside slightly larger can...fill with water, spin it and
 the water gets hot very quickly.
 
 Kone
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
    
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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2018-08-26T14:25:56+00:00 · Warren Keillor <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]> 
JoeIt has always been thusWe seek to capture our  passion, and energy, from higher celestial bodies.I just want the floor to radiate infrared in my stone cave, in perpetuity, without concern.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 at 11:41 PM, Joe Bloe [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves, that we are underlings". Shakespeare

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 8/25/18, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: water heaters
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
 Date: Saturday, August 25, 2018, 6:39 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 DougContemplating
 air to liquid heat pump artangement for first off the start
 heating system. It is all off the shelf except the software
 for the heat pump compressor drive.Looking
 for a software guy who might be able to hack an air to air
 system to handle a liquid heat exchanger, instead of an air
 handler fan and rad as supplied stock.Europeans
 are much more advanced than Canadian installations, I have
 been told.Non
 of this precludes other additional parallel systems to add
 heat.
 From
 what Mike tells me, the brushless motors on the compressors,
 speed up and slow down as conditions change, operated by
 logic sensors, within the factory stock program.Throwing
 a monkey wrench into the ordered system, such as unknown
 devices in parallel, may cause it to malfunction.I
 like my machines to be less fussy, with a greater tolerance
 for error, usually only available with steam punk Variacs,
 and knife switches.But
 I can freeze my ass off in October in this evil climate
 without heat, here in this part of Canada.Expedience
 is part of the immediate equation, with little fooling
 around. The days are getting shorter, unlike where Hector
 is, with a uniform 6:00 am to 6:00 pm daylight, year
 round.Not
 around here!Cheers
 Warren
 Sent
 from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 at 8:26
 PM, Warren
 Keillor<[email protected]>
 wrote: 
 DougInteresting!Sounds
 easy to make.My
 system is very flexible to accept any heat source, I
 think.At
 present, it will be an air to air electric heat pump, which
 is only about three times as efficient as a Chromalux type
 resistance hot water heater. It will use about 10 amps of
 220 volts to warm the concrete floor of a stone barn
 18'x36' inside measurement with walls 2'
 thick.As
 you know, I have s good collection of motors.Until
 this workshop is up, and running, my machine shop is an
 oxyacetylene cutting torch, drill press and an old Lincoln
 225 amp arc welder. I hsve been able to fo a lot of heavy
 work so far, bit dither around wishing to get my big lathe
 and milling machine, up and running.Do
 you have further info on this heat source, and the possible
 efficiency of it?Cheers
 Warren
 Sent
 from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
 
 On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 at 6:35 PM, [email protected]
 [EVGRAY]<[email protected]>
 wrote: 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi Warren and Mick
 
 Super easy simple and cheap to make rotating heater
 
 Go to youtube xearch type in fuel less heater or friction
 heater.
 
 It's simply metal can with holes drilled in that spins
 inside slightly larger can...fill with water, spin it and
 the water gets hot very quickly.
 
 Kone
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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