Electricky 4 Dummy's!

Watcha think my friends.??
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpvXEp1Idis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpvXEp1Idis

DarrellI think he is telling us about using automotive alternators, but leaves it a bit sketchy for me to quite follow how he intends to hook everything up.Cheers Warren

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Darrell,

I've been in the electrical trade for 64 years and those wires are too small to carry 90 amps and they would be flat out trying to carry 30 amps, so I didn't watch all the video.
George

 

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Watcha think my friends.??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpvXEp1Idis

Hi Warren,

"By upping the voltage one can carry higher amperage at high frequency."
The wires still heat according to the amount of current going through them. It doesn't matter if the voltage between them is high or low or even zero. Only the power transfer is changed by changing the voltage at a given current.

The power dissipated as heat in the wire equals the current through it multiplied by the voltage along the wire. This is not the voltage between the wires which doesn't affect the power dissipation. The voltage along the wire is the resistance of the wire multiplied by the current through it. Thus the power dissipation is also given as the current squared multiplied by the resistance of the wire.

The person in the video doesn't give much information and the video doesn't show much neither. If he intends to have 90A or perhaps 3 x 30A through the wires the insulation will probably melt of burn.

Regards
Ole

 

---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Jame Be kind. .George makes a valid observation. By upping the voltage one can carry higher amperage at high frequency.
 I am.more interested in seeing the units working, if that is possble.
 Although it may not apply in this case,
 When I made the induction stove top Tesla pancake coil, it was only very fine speaker wire yet to my amazement, I was able to drive a 3 hp tread mill motor like a Dremel tool, when connected to that skinny wire.
 I did not connect it to a scope so am quite clueless about the nature of the signal. However it is impressive that permanent magnet dc motors provide such dynamic results with such inadequet wires.
 This conversation reminds me to get back to those induction stove experiments with Tesla coils. They are super easy to make, and I haven't even unpacked my new induction furnace from the winter move of my studio.
 I meant to remind Sven that they work so well, and might be worth a try for high voltage concversion
 Cheers Warren
 
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 George this is flat earth technology .
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 Darrell,
 
 I've been in the electrical trade for 64 years and those wires are too small to carry 90 amps and they would be flat out trying to carry 30 amps, so I didn't watch all the video.
 
 George


 




 

 

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   Watcha think my friends.??

 https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=TpvXEp1Idis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpvXEp1Idis

George this is flat earth technology .
On Apr 29, 2018 8:35 AM, "george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> Darrell,
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> I've been in the electrical trade for 64 years and those wires are too
> small to carry 90 amps and they would be flat out trying to carry 30 amps,
> so I didn't watch all the video.
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> George
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> On Sunday, 29 April 2018, 8:11:01 am AEST, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> Watcha think my friends.??
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpvXEp1Idis
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JameBe kind. .George makes a valid observation. By upping the voltage one can carry higher amperage at high frequency.I am.more interested in seeing the units working, if that is possble.Although it may not apply in this case,When I made the induction stove top Tesla pancake coil, it was only very fine speaker wire yet to my amazement, I was able to drive a 3 hp tread mill motor like a Dremel tool, when connected to that skinny wire.I did not connect it to a scope so am quite clueless about the nature of the signal. However it is impressive that permanent magnet dc motors provide such dynamic results with such inadequet wires.This conversation reminds me to get back to those induction stove experiments with Tesla coils. They are super easy to make, and I haven't even unpacked my new induction furnace from the winter move of my studio.I meant to remind Sven that they work so well, and might be worth a try for high voltage concversionCheers Warren
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George this is flat earth technology . 
On Apr 29, 2018 8:35 AM, "george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

     

Darrell,

I've been in the electrical trade for 64 years and those wires are too small to carry 90 amps and they would be flat out trying to carry 30 amps, so I didn't watch all the video.
George

 

    On Sunday, 29 April 2018, 8:11:01 am AEST, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Watcha think my friends.??


https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=TpvXEp1Idis







       
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OleI am not so concerned with our alternator guy.I now am wondering what was happening to drive a 90 volt treadmill motor like a Dremel tool, doing very high rpms, considering the wire size was so tiny, coming from the spiral Tesla coil.As it is, with another experiment, I am testing these motors running off of the product of a bridge rectifier attached to the brushes to run the next motor in line , and so on, for as many big dc motors that I have, and noting the rise in voltage from one, to another, as well as thecurrent of the power supply.It is a very simple experiment, yet, is showing interesting progress.Cheers Warren

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  On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 6:29 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren,

"By upping the voltage one can carry higher amperage at high frequency."
The wires still heat according to the amount of current going through them. It doesn't matter if the voltage between them is high or low or even zero. Only the power transfer is changed by changing the voltage at a given current.

The power dissipated as heat in the wire equals the current through it multiplied by the voltage along the wire. This is not the voltage between the wires which doesn't affect the power dissipation. The voltage along the wire is the resistance of the wire multiplied by the current through it. Thus the power dissipation is also given as the current squared multiplied by the resistance of the wire.

The person in the video doesn't give much information and the video doesn't show much neither. If he intends to have 90A or perhaps 3 x 30A through the wires the insulation will probably melt of burn.

Regards
Ole




---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

JameBe kind. .George makes a valid observation. By upping the voltage one can carry higher amperage at high frequency.I am.more interested in seeing the units working, if that is possble.Although it may not apply in this case,When I made the induction stove top Tesla pancake coil, it was only very fine speaker wire yet to my amazement, I was able to drive a 3 hp tread mill motor like a Dremel tool, when connected to that skinny wire.I did not connect it to a scope so am quite clueless about the nature of the signal. However it is impressive that permanent magnet dc motors provide such dynamic results with such inadequet wires.This conversation reminds me to get back to those induction stove experiments with Tesla coils. They are super easy to make, and I haven't even unpacked my new induction furnace from the winter move of my studio.I meant to remind Sven that they work so well, and might be worth a try for high voltage concversionCheers Warren
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George this is flat earth technology .
On Apr 29, 2018 8:35 AM, "george gray canowindracd@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

 

Darrell,

I've been in the electrical trade for 64 years and those wires are too small tocarry 90 amps and they would be flat out trying to carry 30 amps, so I didn't watch all the video.
George



On Sunday, 29 April 2018, 8:11:01 am AEST, edarrell71@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 
Watcha think my friends.??


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Just a little joke guys .George is right .no nail biting .
On Apr 30, 2018 2:14 PM, "Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Ole
> I am not so concerned with our alternator guy.
> I now am wondering what was happening to drive a 90 volt treadmill motor
> like a Dremel tool, doing very high rpms, considering the wire size was so
> tiny, coming from the spiral Tesla coil.
> As it is, with another experiment, I am testing these motors running off
> of the product of a bridge rectifier attached to the brushes to run the
> next motor in line , and so on, for as many big dc motors that I have, and
> noting the rise in voltage from one, to another, as well as thecurrent of
> the power supply.
> It is a very simple experiment, yet, is showing interesting progress.
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 6:29 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Warren,
>
> "By upping the voltage one can carry higher amperage at high frequency."
> The wires still heat according to the amount of current going through
> them. It doesn't matter if the voltage between them is high or low or even
> zero. Only the power transfer is changed by changing the voltage at a given
> current.
>
> The power dissipated as heat in the wire equals the current through it
> multiplied by the voltage along the wire. This is not the voltage between
> the wires which doesn't affect the power dissipation. The voltage along the
> wire is the resistance of the wire multiplied by the current through it.
> Thus the power dissipation is also given as the current squared multiplied
> by the resistance of the wire.
>
> The person in the video doesn't give much information and the video
> doesn't show much neither. If he intends to have 90A or perhaps 3 x 30A
> through the wires the insulation will probably melt of burn.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
>
> Jame
> Be kind. .George makes a valid observation. By upping the voltage one can
> carry higher amperage at high frequency.
> I am.more interested in seeing the units working, if that is possble.
> Although it may not apply in this case,
> When I made the induction stove top Tesla pancake coil, it was only very
> fine speaker wire yet to my amazement, I was able to drive a 3 hp tread
> mill motor like a Dremel tool, when connected to that skinny wire.
> I did not connect it to a scope so am quite clueless about the nature of
> the signal. However it is impressive that permanent magnet dc motors
> provide such dynamic results with such inadequet wires.
> This conversation reminds me to get back to those induction stove
> experiments with Tesla coils. They are super easy to make, and I haven't
> even unpacked my new induction furnace from the winter move of my studio.
> I meant to remind Sven that they work so well, and might be worth a try
> for high voltage concversion
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:34 AM, James Glinski jglinski01@... [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> George this is flat earth technology .
> On Apr 29, 2018 8:35 AM, "george gray canowindracd@... [EVGRAY]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Darrell,
>
> I've been in the electrical trade for 64 years and those wires are too
> small to carry 90 amps and they would be flat out trying to carry 30 amps,
> so I didn't watch all the video.
>
> George
>
> 
>
>
> On Sunday, 29 April 2018, 8:11:01 am AEST, edarrell71@... [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Watcha think my friends.??
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=TpvXEp1Idis
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpvXEp1Idis>
>
>
>
> 
>

Hi Warren
 Give us some numbers eh! This is exciting and simple experiment...
 how about the input amps with one motor, with two, with three, etc. and voltage at end of string and rpms of motors too....maybe load that last motor turning a generator see what you get there too...
 keep ammeter on first motor all the time that is key if that does not rise...
 ciaoKone

Where in the world have all you guys been?   I have seen a lot of work 
trucks with high powered alternators that had switching circuits 
installed to enable the output of 120VAC to run power tools on job 
sites.  The circuits switched around the diodes taking them out of 
circuit which caused the alternator to output AC instead of DC. Yhr 
trucks had a fast idle pull cable installed to get the proper AC 
voltage.  This guy in the video is so amateurish, he did not even have 
the spade terminals on the field wires, just a no soldered wire loop.  
All of his output wires could not handle 90 amps since it looked like 
about # 12 ga. wires.  I could not figure out the reason for this post 
at all.


On 4/30/2018 3:04 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Just a little joke guys .George is right .no nail biting .
>
> On Apr 30, 2018 2:14 PM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Ole
>
>     I am not so concerned with our alternator guy.
>     I now am wondering what was happening to drive a 90 volt treadmill
>     motor like a Dremel tool, doing very high rpms, considering the
>     wire size was so tiny, coming from the spiral Tesla coil.
>     As it is, with another experiment, I am testing these motors
>     running off of the product of a bridge rectifier attached to the
>     brushes to run the next motor in line , and so on, for as many big
>     dc motors that I have, and noting the rise in voltage from one, to
>     another, as well as thecurrent of the power supply.
>     It is a very simple experiment, yet, is showing interesting progress.
>     Cheers Warren
>
>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>         On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 6:29 AM, [email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Warren,
>
>         "By upping the voltage one can carry higher amperage at high
>         frequency."
>         The wires still heat according to the amount of current going
>         through them. It doesn't matter if the voltage between them is
>         high or low or even zero. Only the power transfer is changed
>         by changing the voltage at a given current.
>
>         The power dissipated as heat in the wire equals the current
>         through it multiplied by the voltage along the wire. This is
>         not the voltage between the wires which doesn't affect the
>         power dissipation. The voltage along the wire is the
>         resistance of the wire multiplied by the current through it.
>         Thus the power dissipation is also given as the current
>         squared multiplied by the resistance of the wire.
>
>         The person in the video doesn't give much information and the
>         video doesn't show much neither. If he intends to have 90A or
>         perhaps 3 x 30A through the wires the insulation will probably
>         melt of burn.
>
>         Regards
>         Ole
>
>
>
>         ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>         <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
>
>         Jame
>         Be kind. .George makes a valid observation. By upping the
>         voltage one can carry higher amperage at high frequency.
>         I am.more interested in seeing the units working, if that is
>         possble.
>         Although it may not apply in this case,
>         When I made the induction stove top Tesla pancake coil, it was
>         only very fine speaker wire yet to my amazement, I was able to
>         drive a 3 hp tread mill motor like a Dremel tool, when
>         connected to that skinny wire.
>         I did not connect it to a scope so am quite clueless about the
>         nature of the signal. However it is impressive that permanent
>         magnet dc motors provide such dynamic results with such
>         inadequet wires.
>         This conversation reminds me to get back to those induction
>         stove experiments with Tesla coils. They are super easy to
>         make, and I haven't even unpacked my new induction furnace
>         from the winter move of my studio.
>         I meant to remind Sven that they work so well, and might be
>         worth a try for high voltage concversion
>         Cheers Warren
>
>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>                 On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:34 AM, James Glinski
>                 jglinski01@... [EVGRAY]
>                 <[email protected]
>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>                 George this is flat earth technology .
>
>                 On Apr 29, 2018 8:35 AM, "george gray canowindracd@...
>                 <mailto:canowindracd@...> [EVGRAY]"
>                 <[email protected]
>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>                     Darrell,
>
>                     I've been in the electrical trade for 64 years and
>                     those wires are too small to carry 90 amps and
>                     they would be flat out trying to carry 30 amps, so
>                     I didn't watch all the video.
>
>                     George
>
>                     
>
>
>                     On Sunday, 29 April 2018, 8:11:01 am AEST,
>                     edarrell71@... <mailto:edarrell71@...> [EVGRAY]
>                     <[email protected]
>                     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>                     Watcha think my friends.??
>
>                     https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=TpvXEp1Idis
>                     <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpvXEp1Idis>
>
>
>
>

Hi DougWill do ASAP
Spring has sprung here.Have to move everything out of the stone barn to spray urethane foam insulation on the inside of the steel roof 2 stories up. The foamers have to install scaffolds, and polyethylene sheeting, requiring everything out, and off the floor.Then the patchy concrete floor has to be broken up, foam laid down, re-rod, plastic tubing, and poured concrete if it is to be a year round workshop/studio.That means every machine and tool, work benches and shelves, sent to another barn, while this is being done.This move is a difficulty regarding my experiments as all the motors are very heavy, and need special care.This last winter was really impossible to work, yet even so, built the flywheel, and assembled many DC motors in one place but now have to move them again for several weeks.I will update as I am able.So far the experiments were done on the fly with ammeter, and multimeter and loving what I saw. Didn't write it down. so it is very unscientific, but just showed me it is doing the good thing again, same as before.(big relief)Cheers Warren
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  On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 2:27 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Hi Warren

Give us some numbers eh! This is exciting and simple experiment...

how about the input amps with one motor, with two, with three, etc. and voltage at end of string and rpms of motors too....maybe load that last motor turning a generator see what you get there too...

keep ammeter on first motor all the time that is key if that does not rise...

ciaoKone

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Norman my learned friend, you said; "I could not figure out the reason for this post at all.

The reason is in the title Norman... ;o)

Electricky 4 Dummy's!