Patent, Dotto

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I be damned, I see this could be use as a primary with oscillating 20k amps.But cooling and heating the ends would be be energy costly right?
 

    On Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:23 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

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Ever think of some "heat pumping" ???    Oscillating 20K amps! all kinds 
of possibilities plus you may get "Lift off" at the right freq!  Lol


On 3/22/2018 11:47 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> I be damned, I see this could be use as a primary with oscillating 20k 
> amps.
> But cooling and heating the ends would be be energy costly right?
>
>
> On Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:23 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] 
> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
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On 3/22/2018 10:02 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Ever think of some "heat pumping" ???    Oscillating 20K amps!   all 
> kinds of possibilities plus you may get "Lift off" at the right freq!  Lol
>
>
> On 3/22/2018 11:47 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>> I be damned, I see this could be use as a primary with oscillating 
>> 20k amps.
>> But cooling and heating the ends would be be energy costly right?
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:23 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
>>
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Talking about Anti-Gravity, take a look at this Patent. 
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771

I actually formed a Dotto ring out of 2 inch wide X 1/2 inch thick X 36 
inch long yielding a 12 inch  of pure copper bar stock into the familiar 
ring design of Dotto. By heating one end of ring with butane flame and 
cooling other end with liquid CO2, measured the millivolt differential 
of the ring ends and , using Ohms Law calculated a flowing current of 
several thousands of amps. You say , Flowing with open circuit of ring 
ends,  the current flows one way on the surface of the copper and 
returns to the other end via the core conductivity.   Really strange.  
The bridge is made of material which will cause oscillations in the 
current flow of which I never built.  At least I did the experiment.



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Ever think of some "heat pumping" ???    Oscillating 20K amps!   all 
kinds of possibilities plus you may get "Lift off" at the right freq!  Lol


On 3/22/2018 11:47 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> I be damned, I see this could be use as a primary with oscillating 20k 
> amps.
> But cooling and heating the ends would be be energy costly right?
>
>
> On Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:23 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] 
> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
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Here are my notes from the Dotto Ring experiment.

Yes! It worked to my satisfaction!  I had a piece of DC buss bar copper 
(99.9 copper), 36 " long X 3 " wide X 1/2 " thick that I heated and 
"dead soft" annealed to get a  four decimal place .0000 on a DVM.  
Formed the 12 " circle coil with a two inch opening between the ends. 
After forming the circle, had to re-anneal to remove any work hardening 
from the forming process!  (Very important).  Heated  one end with a 
Bunsen burner and cooled the other end with  some liquid CO2 and got 
about 50 milivolts on the DVM across the ends.  The bar resistivity was 
probably  around .ooo1 ohms Ohm's Law said there was about 500 amps 
flowing cause a good magnetic field was generated.   Satisfied me that 
the "Thermonic principle worked!   I had a lot of real neat RF Tank 
coils wound with 3/8" copper tubing that I got from Varian Corp. Dallas 
and the old Continental Corp, Dallas and asked Engineers about how they 
were made.  Same annealing process to lower resistance to lowest 
possible value then they were "silver plated"!  Hector has seen a 
"million" of them!  Lol

On 2/3/2019 7:25 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Talking about Anti-Gravity, take a look at this Patent. 
> https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
>
> I actually formed a Dotto ring out of 3 inch wide X 1/2 inch thick X 
> 36 inch long yielding a 12 inch  of pure copper bar stock into the 
> familiar ring design of Dotto. By heating one end of ring with butane 
> flame and cooling other end with liquid CO2, measured the millivolt 
> differential of the ring ends and , using Ohms Law calculated a 
> flowing current of several thousands of amps. You say , Flowing with 
> open circuit of ring ends,  the current flows one way on the surface 
> of the copper and returns to the other end via the core 
> conductivity.   Really strange. The bridge is made of material which 
> will cause oscillations in the current flow of which I never built.  
> At least I did the experiment.
>
>
>
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> kinds of possibilities plus you may get "Lift off" at the right freq!  Lol
>
>
> On 3/22/2018 11:47 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>> I be damned, I see this could be use as a primary with oscillating 
>> 20k amps.
>> But cooling and heating the ends would be be energy costly right?
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:23 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
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Norm,

It is interesting Walter Russell spoke that gravity was a temp
differential.  While that may be a part of it I think there is more to
it.  I have a difficult time ready Russell because of all the religious
stuff he throws in distracts me so he may have already gone over the
more part based on his paintings.  A temperature differential is
observed with a vortex.  Gravity is much more related to spin, molecular
angular momentum and spin locking in fermions and bosons.  Also like the
Dotto ring a closed vortex will display motion in opposing directions.

Norm, can you go into the Bernoulli relationships and what you have
found with gravity?   How to get low Reynolds numbers...

Thanks,

Mick

On 2/3/2019 8:25 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:

>  
>
> Talking about Anti-Gravity, take a look at this Patent. 
> https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
>
> I actually formed a Dotto ring out of 2 inch wide X 1/2 inch thick X
> 36 inch long yielding a 12 inch  of pure copper bar stock into the
> familiar ring design of Dotto. By heating one end of ring with butane
> flame and cooling other end with liquid CO2, measured the millivolt
> differential of the ring ends and , using Ohms Law calculated a
> flowing current of several thousands of amps. You say , Flowing with
> open circuit of ring ends,  the current flows one way on the surface
> of the copper and returns to the other end via the core
> conductivity.   Really strange.  The bridge is made of material which
> will cause oscillations in the current flow of which I never built. 
> At least I did the experiment.
>
>
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>
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>> I be damned, I see this could be use as a primary with oscillating
>> 20k amps.
>> But cooling and heating the ends would be be energy costly right?
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:23 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
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>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
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NormanI couldn't open the attachment link on my phone, but your description of the ring experiment was cool, so to speak.So, you take a 3 foot length of solid copper bar stock 1/2" thick, and roll it in a ring. Heat one end, and freeze the other to get a potential difference between the ends?You say current? Lots of current? How does it manifest itself?
A CO2 fire extinguisher gets you dry ice any time you want it.Butane, propane, what ever, gets you heat, maybe concentrated sunlight?Now lets talk making a practical fun gadget here! You suggest a lot of amps. How do you lead those suckers out of you toy, into the big World so we can have fun with them.Can it make the tires of my Tesla screech? A hot rodder's super charger on command?Pull you electric airplane out of a stall?What do we have here?Cheers Warren
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Talking about Anti-Gravity, take a look at this Patent.  https://patents.google.com/patent/US3839771
 
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Ever think of some "heat pumping" ???    Oscillating 20K amps!   all kinds of possibilities plus you may get "Lift off" at the right freq!  Lol
 
 
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