Re: AW: [EVGRAY] Re: Strobe

4 messages · 2018-03-19T19:21:28-05:00 → 2018-03-20T00:02:31+00:00

[1/4] Re: AW: [EVGRAY] Re: Strobe

2018-03-19T19:21:28-05:00 · Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Hector, I loved working with the mechanical adjustable "Mouse Trap" 
buzzers which easily gave the "Neutral Spike energy! I agree that "solid 
state devices" do not survive the EMP like pulse of a Neutral Spike!    
The numerous experiments with the 5 ton A/C compressor (Locked Rotor)  
single phase 230VAC used mechanical 2 pole contactor (long throw) and a 
mechanical overload current relay to drop out contactor at "locked rotor 
current draw" 82 amps which gave a totall stator/rotor super saturation 
of iron.  At this "super saturated" condition, the 40 mfd start 
capacitor & 5 mfd run capacitor (both energized in circuit) discharged 
back through  windings at instant that magnetic flux decay happened.  A 
very loud bamg signaled a huge earth ground "Spike" from the motor iron 
and frame ground.  Really interesting "effect"!  "Easily replicated for 
anyone who wants to try it at considerable power. 230 VAC @ 82 amps 
initiates sequence!  "Piece of cake"!

No fancy electronics involved here, just simple mechanical components!


On 3/19/2018 6:29 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> the resistance of the xenon tube is alike in a thyratron , that is why 
> i call xenon tubes the poor mans thyratron ...
>
> anyway you can use a lone scr but is more susceptible at destruction 
> by EMP
>
>
> on the diode 1kv and as fast as i can get with the lowest internal 
> resistance ...
>
> (H)
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <s.friedrich@...> wrote :
>
>
> ok ok, we start again at the coilbanger. Of course, switching the 
> rewind diode on and off is an option to see what happens. I always 
> thought you can make any inductor deliver that energy. I still have 
> the circuit. An indication at which inductance we have to look at high 
> impedance ignites the xenon tube only weakly. What performance does 
> the xenon tube have at least? What kind of diode would you use or 
> which power class and if it has to be very fast? Greetings Sven
>
> Von Samsung Mobile gesendet
>
>
> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
> Von: "arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]"
> Datum:19.03.2018 21:29 (GMT+01:00)
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: [EVGRAY] Re: Strobe
>
> Ok a series of experiment to do .....
>
> flash unit with a coil  , remove reverse diode  flash , put reverse 
> diode flash
>
>
> predicted result  diode in will flash more faster more intense .
>
> diode out will flash slower a bit less intense .......
>
> that means you have recovered  collapse energy spike and return it to the
> capacitor .....
>
> on Normans commentary i highlighted  he states clearly  capacitor must 
> match specific coil requirements to deliver the right joule volt 
> ampere to excite whatever OU coil you might want to use  and recover 
> its potential within the return spike  as i have mention to go on an 
> easy trail  a circuit to excite and a circuit to harvest following the 
> proper logarithmic path  of excitation and gain curve ... yes i know  
> its dealing with advanced solid state stuff but i have no choice if 
> you have to understand rotary dynamics of RV
> and other similar devices that PLAY on the same rules!
>
> in other words this is totally applicable to pulsemotors and making 
> any brushed generator work as an EV Gray motor without having to 
> suffer the
> Jinx curse EV gray devices ended with .
>
> pause ....
>
> awaiting  feedback ..
>
> (H)
>
>
>

[2/4] AW: [EVGRAY] Re: Strobe

2018-03-19T22:09:54+01:00 · Sven Friedrich <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
ok ok, we start again at the coilbanger. Of course, switching the rewind diode on and off is an option to see what happens. I always thought you can make any inductor deliver that energy. I still have the circuit. An indication at which inductance we have to look at high impedance ignites the xenon tube only weakly. What performance does the xenon tube have at least? What kind of diode would you use or which power class and if it has to be very fast? Greetings Sven

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-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
Datum:19.03.2018  21:29  (GMT+01:00) 
An: [email protected] 
Betreff: [EVGRAY] Re: Strobe 

Ok a series of experiment to do .....  

flash unit with a coil  , remove reverse diode  flash , put reverse diode flash 


predicted result  diode in will flash more faster more intense .

diode out will flash slower a bit less intense ....... 

that means you have recovered  collapse energy spike and return it to the 
capacitor .....

on Normans commentary i highlighted  he states clearly  capacitor must match specific coil requirements to deliver the right joule volt ampere to excite whatever OU coil you might want to use  and recover its potential within the return spike  as i have mention to go on an easy trail  a circuit to excite and a circuit to harvest following the proper logarithmic path  of excitation and gain curve ... yes i know  its dealing with advanced solid state stuff but i have no choice if you have to understand rotary dynamics of RV 
and other similar devices that PLAY on the same rules! 

in other words this is totally applicable to pulsemotors and making any brushed generator work as an EV Gray motor without having to suffer the 
Jinx curse EV gray devices ended with . 

pause ....

awaiting  feedback ..

(H)

[3/4] Re: AW: [EVGRAY] Re: Strobe

2018-03-19T23:29:13+00:00 · triadutrad <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
the resistance of the xenon tube is alike in a thyratron , that is why i call xenon tubes the poor mans thyratron ...

anyway you can use a lone scr but is more susceptible at destruction by EMP 


on the diode 1kv and as fast as i can get with the lowest internal resistance ...

(H) 



---In [email protected], <s.friedrich@...> wrote :

 

 ok ok, we start again at the coilbanger. Of course, switching the rewind diode on and off is an option to see what happens. I always thought you can make any inductor deliver that energy. I still have the circuit. An indication at which inductance we have to look at high impedance ignites the xenon tube only weakly. What performance does the xenon tube have at least? What kind of diode would you use or which power class and if it has to be very fast? Greetings Sven
 

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-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: "arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]" 
Datum:19.03.2018 21:29 (GMT+01:00) 
An: [email protected] 
Betreff: [EVGRAY] Re: Strobe 

   Ok a series of experiment to do .....  

flash unit with a coil  , remove reverse diode  flash , put reverse diode flash 


predicted result  diode in will flash more faster more intense .

diode out will flash slower a bit less intense ....... 

that means you have recovered  collapse energy spike and return it to the 
capacitor .....

on Normans commentary i highlighted  he states clearly  capacitor must match specific coil requirements to deliver the right joule volt ampere to excite whatever OU coil you might want to use  and recover its potential within the return spike  as i have mention to go on an easy trail  a circuit to excite and a circuit to harvest following the proper logarithmic path  of excitation and gain curve ... yes i know  its dealing with advanced solid state stuff but i have no choice if you have to understand rotary dynamics of RV 
and other similar devices that PLAY on the same rules! 

in other words this is totally applicable to pulsemotors and making any brushed generator work as an EV Gray motor without having to suffer the 
Jinx curse EV gray devices ended with . 

pause ....

awaiting  feedback ..

(H)

[4/4] Re: AW: [EVGRAY] Re: Strobe

2018-03-20T00:02:31+00:00 · triadutrad <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
an over-unity coil is attained as 

s saturation point in joules  AVS  ampere volt seconds for maximal magnetic tensor .. maximal current at N volts P 

then 


collapse of field in Ampere volt seconds were time volts and ampere feed into a captive accumulator were ambient temperature & electron noise transduces to electron potential within the collapse charge,  stochastic resonance applies , electron EASER also applies ..

the tendency of this to happen enhanced is in using low magnetic Remanence hi saturation metal cores ( iron thunderbolt )

i have stated MU metal is one item  ( speaker magnet metal end caps ) as other sources are $1000 per pound of the stuff if you test them you will see they don't retain any magnetic field and have an extremely hi magnetic saturation point else the speakers fry in no time !

other is transformers coils and cores ....

(H)