AW: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: The final evisoration

Hello Warren, for which project? Brain Praters circuits? I thought you wanted to rebuild the circuit from the video that was last posted with the many single coils and the fixed coil in the middle of the stator. Of course you can rewire the stator as a Rotoverter Primemover, the 6 leads are bifilar or multifilar wound, if so you can split them and connect a Tesla coil in series for higher impedance. Greetings Sven

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Sven

Duh! I was thinking it might be what was being under discussion. I take it this is wrong? It this not the kind of motor that you were suggesting we use?
It is a 3 phase 550 volt induction motor.
, as ordinary as can be, except for the extra bearing to support the worm.
Cheers Warren

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On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:20 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
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Hi Warren, your photo speaks volumes. laughing.
I saw that you have 6 leads probably 3 phases. 3 wires will probably be clamped together in a star connection or in a triangle each connected to each.

What are you doing with that?

Do you want to remove the old windings and install many single windings distributed 360 degrees, as in the circuit shown?

regards

Sven

SvenI don' t know what to do, as I didn't fully understand that the core had many single coils as opposed to the normal 3 phase motor coil with, I guess, 3 actual circuits, and coils, comprising of a wire on each end.So I barely have come to terms with those six wires, fumbling my way through making a couple of rotoverters, that seem to work, by some means, which I don't understand.
My ignorance, and confusion, have provided me with the, I guess, "stator" out of a working 3 phase motor.I am at the group's mercy regarding how best to make use of this resource, since I, myself, don't have a clue in the World beyond treating it like a rotoverter.Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 1:44 AM, 'S.friedrich' [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Hello Warren, for which project? Brain Praters circuits? I thought you wanted to rebuild the circuit from the video that was last posted with the many single coils and the fixed coil in the middle of the stator. Of course you can rewire the stator as a Rotoverter Primemover, the 6 leads are bifilar or multifilar wound, if so you can split them and connect a Tesla coil in series for higher impedance. Greetings Sven
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Von: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" 
Datum:13.03.2018 19:52 (GMT+01:00) 
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Sven
Duh! I was thinking it might be what was being under discussion. I take it this is wrong? It this not the kind of motor that you were suggesting we use?It is a 3 phase 550 volt induction motor., as ordinary as can be, except for the extra bearing to support the worm.Cheers Warren
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  On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:20 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren, your photo speaks volumes. laughing.
I saw that you have 6 leads probably 3 phases. 3 wires will probably be clamped together in a star connection or in a triangle each connected to each.

What are you doing with that?

Do you want to remove the old windings and install many single windings distributed 360 degrees, as in the circuit shown?

regards

Sven
    


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Good questions Warren... keep them flowing as there are a lot of us on the bus with you looking for answers.
 

 Like what are they calling a pole? is it one slot or a whole bunch like in an RV?
 

 Now Gerry says the output is wound in the same slot as the primary? 
 I thought the output was on something in the middle?
 

 Ron

Hi Ron,

"Like what are they calling a pole? is it one slot or a whole bunch like in an RV?"
A 6-poled motor has three pairs of NS-poles distributed uniformly around its circumference. This makes each of the poles extend several slots.

"Now Gerry says the output is wound in the same slot as the primary? "
Then this would be like a three phased transformer. How do we know if the patent applications hold their claims? This will require doing the experiment or knowing of somebody that have done it. Pierre Cotnoir's device definitely looks like a self-runner. Perhaps the patent application claims are valid even though those devices don't step through the poles the way Pierre's stator does. If it works like in the patent applications it is much simpler requiring only two or three phases and a locked rotor with windings for the output.

Regards
Ole

 

---In [email protected], <iron1of1@...> wrote :

 
 Good questions Warren... keep them flowing as there are a lot of us on the bus with you looking for answers.
 

 Like what are they calling a pole? is it one slot or a whole bunch like in an RV?
 

 Now Gerry says the output is wound in the same slot as the primary? 
 I thought the output was on something in the middle?
 

 Ron

Thanks Ole, that helps a bit
 

 Ron

Hi Ron
 two descriptions of "poles"  going on - one is the metal betwenn "slots" in the stator  (so 36 pole stator or 36 slot stator)
 Or it is how many magnetic-field magnetic-poles exist in the rotating field
 You have to imderstand context of whatever is being confused to figure it out! haha
 ciaoKone

Hi Ole and all
 By Gerry saying output is  wound in same slot as primary, I think maybe he means that there are two outputs, actually three including the backemf/recoil/flyback diodes....
 So one output is what comes out of that fixed rotor and its winds (700 ft of 2X 20GA wire) This is like secondary induced by the sequentially roataed filed around it....
 While the second output, would be all the winds in the stator that are NOT being pulsed during any one pulse.....and this might be the key ot the looping since it is not a collapsing field (it tries maybe but cannot) and the rotating field revolving around  is a continuous field, it never turns off as Pierre showed that he has oivelapping timing so that one feildd A turns on, then both fields A and the next, B, turn on, then A turns off, but B stays on and it goes like that sort of....
 Anyways it was explained to me that the winds and coils that do not get pulsed (5 more windings like this than what is pulsed at any one time) creates a situation where the field wants to collapse, but it cannot so the energy induced into this field exits out the diodes, and this fill up cap bank to keep it looping...no lenz law since no rotor to brake, no CEMFforces in transformer effect since field rotates sequentially the evil CEMF cannot do its damage since what it wanted to damage it cannot get a bullseye on as it just changed position before the CEMF could affect it.
 ciao Kone