Sequence of pulsed stator poles in Cotnoir generator

Hi Ole
 I cannot see the gif - did you put it on overunity,.com too?
 I usually cannot see photos and drawings and stuff put up here on yahoo in the coversations section.....
 Can you upload into photo in files section here?
 I really want to get to the bottom of the DZ Cotnoir generator and figure out how it works....sure seems to me it has to do with coherent fields combining power, not cancelling....
 ciaoKone

Hi Kone,

I did put the gif animation on overunity.com too: https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg520097/#msg520097 https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg520097/#msg520097

But it has to be downloaded and put into a browser (just drag and drop into browser window) to see it running. I attach it here again and hope it will work this time.

Regards
Ole


 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Ole
 I cannot see the gif - did you put it on overunity,.com too?
 I usually cannot see photos and drawings and stuff put up here on yahoo in the coversations section.....
 Can you upload into photo in files section here?
 I really want to get to the bottom of the DZ Cotnoir generator and figure out how it works....sure seems to me it has to do with coherent fields combining power, not cancelling....
 ciaoKone

Hi Kone,

I looks like Yahoo is having one of its bad days! The upload to overunity.com only contains the first frame. Thus the animation was now made as an mp4 video: https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg520139/#msg520139 https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg520139/#msg520139

I just tested the file by downloading it and it does work. Only thing is the video player has to be put in repeat mode to see repeated revolutions.

I attach the mp4-file here too. Hope Yahoo accepts it this time.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

 Hi Kone,

I did put the gif animation on overunity.com too: https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg520097/#msg520097 https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg520097/#msg520097

But it has to be downloaded and put into a browser (just drag and drop into browser window) to see it running. I attach it here again and hope it will work this time.

Regards
Ole

One last try to attach the video file

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

 Hi Kone,

I looks like Yahoo is having one of its bad days! The upload to overunity.com only contains the first frame. Thus the animation was now made as an mp4 video: https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg520139/#msg520139 https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg520139/#msg520139

I just tested the file by downloading it and it does work. Only thing is the video player has to be put in repeat mode to see repeated revolutions.

I attach the mp4-file here too. Hope Yahoo accepts it this time.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

 Hi Kone,

I did put the gif animation on overunity.com too: https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg520097/#msg520097 https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg520097/#msg520097

But it has to be downloaded and put into a browser (just drag and drop into browser window) to see it running. I attach it here again and hope it will work this time.

Regards
Ole

Very good mate, thanks Ole,
George
 

    On Thursday, 19 April 2018, 8:43:24 pm AEST, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
I made a gif animation of the Cotnoir generator showing the steps of the poles. This shows how two sets of fields are superimposed and probably are becoming coherent without using resonance. This prevents having to readjust everything each time the load is altered.

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :


Hi all

Here is more on DZ generator looper by Pierre Contori -  This my very latest diagram and explanation how to wire and pulse stators and create rotating field,,,,. this from all the info Pierre has given out so far....just learned today the coils are 22GA wire, 35 turns...I think one is LHR and other is RHR not sure but probably to create NS 

https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator

Hi Ole
 I cannot see the attached gif animation at all (no link or anything to be seen)
 Seems as though George could see it however...but I cannot..
 Everyday is a bad day at yahoo but also your gif on ou.;com also did not animater there....
 Can you make yourself a folder in files section of EVGRAY or EVGRAYTOO or EVGRAYTOOB or EVGRAYTOOC and upload it there??
 I would really like to see your idea of Pierres field rotation....I have a 30 pole stator ready to wind but am waiting for some replication to work right or at least fully understand how it works (even better) before I do the windings...have a big spool of 22GA wire ready to go.
 ciao
 Kone

Hi Ole
 OK I just watched your mp4 in repeat mode on ou.com....thanks that is very descriptive I finally understand it  with the double layers "Crawling" around the stators.....
 What about flipping polarities every "two segments"??? but continuing the crawl-motion?
 Such as if you follow the blue segment it goes top one ON then bottom blue ON but also now bottome red ON too,,,,then red and next cycler.
 So the "middle" segment is red-blue combined....hope this makes a little sense but am thinking good idea to flip polarites as much as possible to get maximum AC induction...however that may be done and still crawl that field around and still keep fields in coherence too...
 I have a feeling there is some coil-shorting going on during the combined-segments and this adds to power via hyper ringing through the diodes into super caps....
 I asked on ou.com if your animation is "how it is" I hope Pierre answers...Luc is deleting posts (not good) there....I don't know if anyone will answer.
 Maybe you can present this animation to Pierre "personally" on his youtube  videos see what he says directly....it is easy to use google translator to French.
 ciaoKone

Hi Kone,

 "I cannot see the attached gif animation at all (no link or anything to be seen)
 Seems as though George could see it however...but I cannot."
It went through by email every single time. Only in the forum it didn't show up.

I can't upload files or photos to the EVGRAY forum but it's possible to do so to the EVGRAYTOO which I did. It does work from that forum https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAYTOO/files/The%20Pierre%20Cotnoir%20device/ https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAYTOO/files/The%20Pierre%20Cotnoir%20device/.

Regards
Ole

 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Ole
 I cannot see the attached gif animation at all (no link or anything to be seen)
 Seems as though George could see it however...but I cannot..
 Everyday is a bad day at yahoo but also your gif on ou.;com also did not animater there....
 Can you make yourself a folder in files section of EVGRAY or EVGRAYTOO or EVGRAYTOOB or EVGRAYTOOC and upload it there??
 I would really like to see your idea of Pierres field rotation....I have a 30 pole stator ready to wind but am waiting for some replication to work right or at least fully understand how it works (even better) before I do the windings...have a big spool of 22GA wire ready to go.
 ciao
 Kone

Hi Kone,

"What about flipping polarities every "two segments"??? but continuing the crawl-motion?"
This way the wave form won't be sinusoidal. It may still work for 'creating' energy though. 

"So the "middle" segment is red-blue combined"
This will cancel the fields as they oppose each other. The power source will see this as a short as the inductances are canceled. This way only the resistance of the wires will limit the current which means converting the input power to heat.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Ole
 OK I just watched your mp4 in repeat mode on ou.com....thanks that is very descriptive I finally understand it  with the double layers "Crawling" around the stators.....
 What about flipping polarities every "two segments"??? but continuing the crawl-motion?
 Such as if you follow the blue segment it goes top one ON then bottom blue ON but also now bottome red ON too,,,,then red and next cycler.
 So the "middle" segment is red-blue combined....hope this makes a little sense but am thinking good idea to flip polarites as much as possible to get maximum AC induction...however that may be done and still crawl that field around and still keep fields in coherence too...
 I have a feeling there is some coil-shorting going on during the combined-segments and this adds to power via hyper ringing through the diodes into super caps....
 I asked on ou.com if your animation is "how it is" I hope Pierre answers...Luc is deleting posts (not good) there....I don't know if anyone will answer.
 Maybe you can present this animation to Pierre "personally" on his youtube  videos see what he says directly....it is easy to use google translator to French.
 ciaoKone

Luc Choquette of overunity.com made a solid state replication of the Cotnoir device: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RhUY8HX90Y&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RhUY8HX90Y&feature=youtu.be

Let's hope he will show it in self-running mode.



Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

 I made a gif animation of the Cotnoir generator showing the steps of the poles. This shows how two sets of fields are superimposed and probably are becoming coherent without using resonance. This prevents having to readjust everything each time the load is altered.

Regards
Ole

Kone,

I think I saw something awhile back about you removing the devices from
solid state relays, what was the purpose of dissecting the units?


On 6/4/2018 10:37 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Ole
> Yes a great build.Luc just finished now testing it.
> I put up dome comments on ou.com about it I saw you there too..
> Those 600v 50a hyper fast diodes are going to work wonders also the
> 40a solid state relays all good and already he is operating it at some
> good high frequency.
> I think there is cohesion of actual backemf forces riding on top of
> the flyback spikes when it opetates.like it should
> And this runs through diodes also pulling out the generator effect of
> locked rotor inducing itself back into to overlapping stator winds.
> In other words the locked rotor winds when induced by rotating stator
> field does not.just pump itself out to the load but also as well
> induced itself back into the stator winds which are not being pulsed
> during that "crawl" rotation you made animation of...just thought of
> this now as I write maybe this secret in what does that locked rotor
> field do or "give back" to the rotating stator field that creates the
> locked rotor field in first place
> Kone
>
>

Hi Ole
Yes a great build.Luc just finished now testing it.
I put up dome comments on ou.com about it I saw you there too..
Those 600v 50a hyper fast diodes are going to work wonders also the 40a solid state relays all good and already he is operating it at some good high frequency.
I think there is cohesion of actual backemf forces riding on top of the flyback spikes when it opetates.like it should 
And this runs through diodes also pulling out the generator effect of locked rotor inducing itself back into to overlapping stator winds.
In other words the locked rotor winds when induced by rotating stator field does not.just pump itself out to the load but also as well induced  itself back into the stator winds which are not being pulsed during that "crawl" rotation you made animation of...just thought of this now as I write maybe this secret in what does that locked rotor field do or "give back" to the rotating  stator field  that creates the locked rotor field in first place
Kone

Kone,

So why not just buy the mosfets individually?   Yes hyper for sure, with 
experiments with a closed coil hitting it with pulses in the audio 
region but with nansec rise/fall times I was seeing stuff generated into 
the gHz.  Also was seeing some of the same strange pulse patterns that 
Norm showed us in his experiments.


On 6/5/2018 12:13 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Mick
> This is idea Ismael Aviso gave me, as those SSrelays have a single 
> mosfet within them and for peak coil hlrting you need two mosfets 
> bidirectionally connected side by side in order to switch a.c. the 
> coil shorting creates ( hyper a.c. ringing) and so you can make fully 
> isolated at the gates bidirectional mosfet switches using dug- out SSRs
> I would use total of 8 mosfets with 4 in paralell each side of 
> bidirectionally connected clusters to lower resistance so better hyper 
> ringing
> Kone
>
>

Hi Mick 
This is idea Ismael Aviso gave me, as those  SSrelays have a single mosfet within them and for peak coil hlrting you need two mosfets bidirectionally connected side by side in order to switch a.c. the coil shorting creates ( hyper a.c. ringing) and so you can make fully isolated at the gates bidirectional mosfet switches using dug- out SSRs
I would use total of 8 mosfets with 4 in paralell each side of bidirectionally connected clusters to lower resistance so better hyper ringing
Kone

Kone,

I thought perhaps the SSR had some unobtanium MOSFET or something, did
not understand going through the hassle of digging one out of the case
rather than purchasing a new one or pair.

Very nice circuit for harvesting AC and I like the simple interface to
the gate drivers, those make all the diff.  I would not harvest using
closed coils unless being used to seed resonate another open circuit.
Keeping a circuit closed eliminates all gains I have perceived.  My
forays were for data gathering only and it was very interesting to see
the high frequencies available from simple fast switch closure at audio
freqs.  Very little is said in electronics theory concerning these modes
other than how to eliminate the "noise" these states cause. 

Excellent web site you created with very good insight.  I hope we hear
more about the Cotnoir device and he releases his "secret".  The secret
is often the core material with ability to rapidly switch poles at a
knee point that requires less input than the existing inertia.  This
asymmetric core concept also includes the magamp saturation idea to
switch the flux circuit off and on at the proper points such as when one
might need to bypass Lenz's ass.  One reason why these super fast
magnetic switching materials like the Hyperco are so cool.

BTW you might not be aware but Iroquis brothers were important to the
writing of the US constitution as much was taken from their inter tribal
accord which was designed as a limit to government interference, not to
confer rights as many misinterpret as those come from the creator. ( A
good reason even atheist should appreciate having God in the laws so one
always strives higher than a man)  It is sad that America has abused the
folly of the people in order to cause violence around the planet in
order for petroleum companies to profit.  But of all the countries I
have visited I believe this one has the most freedom of choice (not
saying much) and the most likelihood of one being successful if one puts
in the energy for that.  I hate all governments as I don't believe I
need to be governed but unfortunately most of the "hu-mans" can not live
without a daddy or mommy or someone demanding them to be civil to one
another and to redistribute their work product.  Most of the Indian
tribes owned slaves too, along with the Africans so blaming that on
America is binary without dumping on Indians and Africans in the
process.  The saddest part of all is given the freedom of choice people
still sign up to kill one another for money, or some other dimwitted
concept of patriotism hero worship bullshit.  When over 90 percent of
people refuse to show up for war profiteering not fighting an evil
oppressor then we will have moved forward as a species, at this point
most earthlings are dumb fucking monkeys who should not be allowed out
of the gravity well to fuck things up in other places.  And I don't mean
kind creatures like the vegetarian great apes and orangutans but rather
violent fucking murderous chimps.

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/06/28/us/iroquois-constitution-a-forerunner-to-colonists-democratic-principles.html

Ole was the only one who came up with a logical answer when Warren asked
how to stop poverty by keeping reproduction below the GDP.  Even though
that's a great start I don't agree it's possible as there will always be
a lazy faction of non achievers that will exist in a lower threshold
which people will always refer to as impoverished. If all was overunity
star trek level then those types would become like the surface dwellers
in the time machine, the Eloi I think it was.  Ever try to interest a
kid science who did not want to progress beyond kicking a ball around? 
People who don't have anything better to do will just fuck and reproduce
like insects even if the babies starve to death afterwards due to lack
of food availability.  The people who try to provide food availability
are used for an income stream by the African communist dictators and the
people continue to starve to death.  Take away guns they use machetes to
chop each other up, a very pathetic species indeed...


On 6/5/2018 7:16 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> HI Mick
>
> I do buy individual mosfetsm parallel them and hook them up in
> bidirectional fashion (gates connect and source leads connect,
> switching happens between drain A and drain B) - and si U tear out the
> mosfet inside the SSR (usually this has blown up so good reason to
> convert these to bidirectional mosfet switching for peak coil shorting)
>
> The method I do is not to have a closed coil (shorted out) in first
> place, then pulse it, but rather opposite, that is to have open coil,
> and either pulse it with DC and then time the short of the coil to
> happen just before it saturates,
>
> (this Ismael method for his MEG and other stuff)
>
> or, what I usually do is have a generator coil (air coil or coil with
> very fast core material) and sweep a magnet past the coil to induce
> some power (permanent magnet rotor and stationary generator coil)
>
> then at the peak period of the sinewave that will happen, that is when
> I short the coil with a switch with a fairly narrow pulse width...
>
> mosfets conduct only one way, so to keep the hyper ringing happening
> (rings during the switch closure period! NOT when switch opens, which
> is other animal - the flyback/backemf recoil spike in a pulsed DC
> inductor)
>
> So to sustain the rringing which is those AC spikey clusters seen in
> link below, you need a switch that switches AC and lets the AC "flow"
> too within the switch.. so that is why bidirectional mosfets...
>
> Here is circuit I do for peak coil shorting....note also the diode
> going from source to drain on each mosfet:..look at the scope shot at
> bottom of page, this is 60hz generator coil signal (neo magnet past
> big aircoil)  and look at the ringing that happens when the coil is
> shorted at that peak period...in this case with mechanical
> brush-commutator....
>
> The middle drawing on this page shows a simple two-stage output
> circuit where first caps fill by themselves, then caps discharge by
> themselves which is required in peak coil shorting circuits to extract
> power without killing everything with a direct resistive load.
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/shorting-coils-circuits
>
>
>
>

HI Mick
 I do buy individual mosfetsm parallel them and hook them up in bidirectional fashion (gates connect and source leads connect, switching happens between drain A and drain B) - and si U tear out the mosfet inside the SSR (usually this has blown up so good reason to convert these to bidirectional mosfet switching for peak coil shorting)
 The method I do is not to have a closed coil (shorted out) in first place, then pulse it, but rather opposite, that is to have open coil, and either pulse it with DC and then time the short of the coil to happen just before it saturates, 
 (this Ismael method for his MEG and other stuff)
 or, what I usually do is have a generator coil (air coil or coil with very fast core material) and sweep a magnet past the coil to induce some power (permanent magnet rotor and stationary generator coil)
 then at the peak period of the sinewave that will happen, that is when I short the coil with a switch with a fairly narrow pulse width...
 mosfets conduct only one way, so to keep the hyper ringing happening (rings during the switch closure period! NOT when switch opens, which is other animal - the flyback/backemf recoil spike in a pulsed DC inductor)
 So to sustain the rringing which is those AC spikey clusters seen in link below, you need a switch that switches AC and lets the AC "flow" too within the switch.. so that is why bidirectional mosfets...
 Here is circuit I do for peak coil shorting....note also the diode going from source to drain on each mosfet:..look at the scope shot at bottom of page, this is 60hz generator coil signal (neo magnet past big aircoil)  and look at the ringing that happens when the coil is shorted at that peak period...in this case with mechanical brush-commutator....
 The middle drawing on this page shows a simple two-stage output circuit where first caps fill by themselves, then caps discharge by themselves which is required in peak coil shorting circuits to extract power without killing everything with a direct resistive load.
 https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/shorting-coils-circuits https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/shorting-coils-circuits