Re: [EVGRAY] Re: SCR TURN ON AND OFF INFO FROM FILES

Hey Guys
 put this video in browser and at 1:01 stop and look his plugin wire for the motor has one wire to white wire,the blue wire goes to Capacitor post and the other post of cap and lead from plugin go together and on side of fuel tank it says 1300 but I cant make out what is in front of the 1300 some of you may have a Genset just like this it would be interesting to know what it says .Thanks
Steve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeLPgjTiw3Y

 

 

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Hi Steve,

"I have lost the address for the one started with a rope but at least We have seen two of these things running in Indonesia ."
That's the first video on his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH6iJ81QohKRlzGbG73FcjA

Regards
Ole



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Hey Guys 
As I keep looking at the videos of the self runner I think I am learning a few things,as I looked at the two different videos of 2 different Guys doing the same thing the Gen set they have used looks to be a 2 cycle engine on it and they have taken the engine apart and still have the Crankshaft inside there turning with the rod and piston out of there it has to be out of balance so if anyone could take a round rod and machine it to go in that space would free up some friction make it a better unit. I am going to stop at some Washer and dryer Junk yards tomorrow and see if I can find a motor like that and will be looking for a 2 cycle Gen set.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-9Ei7v-ZY0&feature=youtu.be   ; I have lost the address for the one started with a rope but at least We have seen two of these things running in Indonesia .
Steve


 

 

 

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Hi Warren
I watched the Indonesian video a few more times, and that sure looks like a car alternator on the left side!
I looked at Univers al AC DC motorsm and  they have (what I have seen)  two brushes at 180 degrees  on both sides of shaft  at one end of shaft, and the brushes are very visible too, but I see none of these on the presumed motor on left side, and it looks just like a common car alternator to me still, also there are only three wires going into it (red white blue) so this also makes me wonder if it is car alternator...
.Also look at the presumed generator/alternator on the right - for sure this looks just like a generator out of a common genset, but maybe he is using that as motor (somehow) and note there are two wires coming from it, so it must be single phase.... thinking backwards, maybe this is not a genset generator but a motor for a waterpump or electric rickshaw/motorcycle....(doubt it) but he has an earlier video with a rickshaw that has solar panels mounted on it....he shows the invertor he uses later (but with label off) and it is 1500W type, and 230VA....so if this is AC to AC motor generator, he is running on 230VAC I presume and will guess..
I looked up converting car alternators into motors ....doesn't seem so practical to do unless 3ph and you have 3ph controllers I don't think he uses these in video.......


could be his :car alternator: rotor is specially made with permanent magnets in it, and stators also special, in that they hug the stator housing, and it becomes an AC motor.....I have built motors like this (that run on AC) but mine were "axial: like flat disc muller designs, but no reason not to do it all inside a car alternator housing and would not be that difficult either here is video I did of my permanent-magnet AC motors that work great as you have two magnets on  each side of coil, pulling and pushing same time...at 1:20 I explain, at 2:20 it should make sense....anyways imagine doing something just like this all contained into car alternator housing....(tthis AC motor design one of best thing I have come up with) IFthat generator on right side makes 60hz for example at 1800 rpm (4pole) or 60hz for example at 3600rpm (2 pole) then you could construct the AC motor inside the car alternator housing to synch up with what the generator makes by either 4 N-S magnets, or 2 larger size N-S magnets and corresponding coil sizes within the stator housing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuq92YQKmbk&t=26s
ciao
Kone

Hey Guys
same video at 3:17 says STAR        SPG1300 anybody seen one like it ???
Steve

 

 

 

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 Hey Guys
 put this video in browser and at 1:01 stop and look his plugin wire for the motor has one wire to white wire,the blue wire goes to Capacitor post and the other post of cap and lead from plugin go together and on side of fuel tank it says 1300 but I cant make out what is in front of the 1300 some of you may have a Genset just like this it would be interesting to know what it says .Thanks
Steve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeLPgjTiw3Y

 

 

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Hi Steve,

"I have lost the address for the one started with a rope but at least We have seen two of these things running in Indonesia ."
That's the first video on his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH6iJ81QohKRlzGbG73FcjA

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <cltractor@...> wrote :




Hey Guys 
As I keep looking at the videos of the self runner I think I am learning a few things,as I looked at the two different videos of 2 different Guys doing the same thing the Gen set they have used looks to be a 2 cycle engine on it and they have taken the engine apart and still have the Crankshaft inside there turning with the rod and piston out of there it has to be out of balance so if anyone could take a round rod and machine it to go in that space would free up some friction make it a better unit. I am going to stop at some Washer and dryer Junk yards tomorrow and see if I can find a motor like that and will be looking for a 2 cycle Gen set.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-9Ei7v-ZY0&feature=youtu.be   ; I have lost the address for the one started with a rope but at least We have seen two of these things running in Indonesia .
Steve


 

 

 

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From: konehead@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Feb 23, 2018 10:58 am
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Hi Warren
I watched the Indonesian video a few more times, and that sure looks like a car alternator on the left side!
I looked at Univers al AC DC motorsm and  they have (what I have seen)  two brushes at 180 degrees  on both sides of shaft  at one end of shaft, and the brushes are very visible too, but I see none of these on the presumed motor on left side, and it looks just like a common car alternator to me still, also there are only three wires going into it (red white blue) so this also makes me wonder if it is car alternator...
.Also look at the presumed generator/alternator on the right - for sure this looks just like a generator out of a common genset, but maybe he is using that as motor (somehow) and note there are two wires coming from it, so it must be single phase.... thinking backwards, maybe this is not a genset generator but a motor for a waterpump or electric rickshaw/motorcycle....(doubt it) but he has an earlier video with a rickshaw that has solar panels mounted on it....he shows the invertor he uses later (but with label off) and it is 1500W type, and 230VA....so if this is AC to AC motor generator, he is running on 230VAC I presume and will guess..
I looked up converting car alternators into motors ....doesn't seem so practical to do unless 3ph and you have 3ph controllers I don't think he uses these in video.......


could be his :car alternator: rotor is specially made with permanent magnets in it, and stators also special, in that they hug the stator housing, and it becomes an AC motor.....I have built motors like this (that run on AC) but mine were "axial: like flat disc muller designs, but no reason not to do it all inside a car alternator housing and would not be that difficult either here is video I did of my permanent-magnet AC motors that work great as you have two magnets on  each side of coil, pulling and pushing same time...at 1:20 I explain, at 2:20 it should make sense....anyways imagine doing something just like this all contained into car alternator housing....(tthis AC motor design one of best thing I have come up with) IFthat generator on right side makes 60hz for example at 1800 rpm (4pole) or 60hz for example at 3600rpm (2 pole) then you could construct the AC motor inside the car alternator housing to synch up with what the generator makes by either 4 N-S magnets, or 2 larger size N-S magnets and corresponding coil sizes within the stator housing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuq92YQKmbk&t=26s
ciao
Kone

hey Guys 
 Yes here it is
https://www.firmanindonesia.com/product-SPG1300.html    look familiar

 

 

 

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Hey Guys
same video at 3:17 says STAR        SPG1300 anybody seen one like it ???
Steve

 

 

 

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From: [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY <[email protected]>
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 Hey Guys
 put this video in browser and at 1:01 stop and look his plugin wire for the motor has one wire to white wire,the blue wire goes to Capacitor post and the other post of cap and lead from plugin go together and on side of fuel tank it says 1300 but I cant make out what is in front of the 1300 some of you may have a Genset just like this it would be interesting to know what it says .Thanks
Steve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeLPgjTiw3Y

 

 

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From: [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Feb 25, 2018 1:43 pm
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Hi Steve,

"I have lost the address for the one started with a rope but at least We have seen two of these things running in Indonesia ."
That's the first video on his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH6iJ81QohKRlzGbG73FcjA

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <cltractor@...> wrote :




Hey Guys 
As I keep looking at the videos of the self runner I think I am learning a few things,as I looked at the two different videos of 2 different Guys doing the same thing the Gen set they have used looks to be a 2 cycle engine on it and they have taken the engine apart and still have the Crankshaft inside there turning with the rod and piston out of there it has to be out of balance so if anyone could take a round rod and machine it to go in that space would free up some friction make it a better unit. I am going to stop at some Washer and dryer Junk yards tomorrow and see if I can find a motor like that and will be looking for a 2 cycle Gen set.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-9Ei7v-ZY0&feature=youtu.be   ; I have lost the address for the one started with a rope but at least We have seen two of these things running in Indonesia .
Steve


 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: konehead@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Feb 23, 2018 10:58 am
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: SCR TURN ON AND OFF INFO FROM FILES





Hi Warren
I watched the Indonesian video a few more times, and that sure looks like a car alternator on the left side!
I looked at Univers al AC DC motorsm and  they have (what I have seen)  two brushes at 180 degrees  on both sides of shaft  at one end of shaft, and the brushes are very visible too, but I see none of these on the presumed motor on left side, and it looks just like a common car alternator to me still, also there are only three wires going into it (red white blue) so this also makes me wonder if it is car alternator...
.Also look at the presumed generator/alternator on the right - for sure this looks just like a generator out of a common genset, but maybe he is using that as motor (somehow) and note there are two wires coming from it, so it must be single phase.... thinking backwards, maybe this is not a genset generator but a motor for a waterpump or electric rickshaw/motorcycle....(doubt it) but he has an earlier video with a rickshaw that has solar panels mounted on it....he shows the invertor he uses later (but with label off) and it is 1500W type, and 230VA....so if this is AC to AC motor generator, he is running on 230VAC I presume and will guess..
I looked up converting car alternators into motors ....doesn't seem so practical to do unless 3ph and you have 3ph controllers I don't think he uses these in video.......


could be his :car alternator: rotor is specially made with permanent magnets in it, and stators also special, in that they hug the stator housing, and it becomes an AC motor.....I have built motors like this (that run on AC) but mine were "axial: like flat disc muller designs, but no reason not to do it all inside a car alternator housing and would not be that difficult either here is video I did of my permanent-magnet AC motors that work great as you have two magnets on  each side of coil, pulling and pushing same time...at 1:20 I explain, at 2:20 it should make sense....anyways imagine doing something just like this all contained into car alternator housing....(tthis AC motor design one of best thing I have come up with) IFthat generator on right side makes 60hz for example at 1800 rpm (4pole) or 60hz for example at 3600rpm (2 pole) then you could construct the AC motor inside the car alternator housing to synch up with what the generator makes by either 4 N-S magnets, or 2 larger size N-S magnets and corresponding coil sizes within the stator housing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuq92YQKmbk&t=26s
ciao
Kone

Hi guys,
I have found another video from the same guy here: INOVASI BARU GENSET TANPA BBM

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He stated here clearly that he put a lie (yes, a LIE!!!) in his machine. What do you think guys?
Greetings from Germany,
Okki
 

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hey Guys 
 Yes here it is
https://www.firmanindonesia.com/product-SPG1300.html    look familiar

 
 
 
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Hey Guys
same video at 3:17 says STAR        SPG1300 anybody seen one like it ???
Steve
 
 
 
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 Hey Guys
 put this video in browser and at 1:01 stop and look his plugin wire for the motor has one wire to white wire,the blue wire goes to Capacitor post and the other post of cap and lead from plugin go together and on side of fuel tank it says 1300 but I cant make out what is in front of the 1300 some of you may have a Genset just like this it would be interesting to know what it says .Thanks
Steve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeLPgjTiw3Y
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Feb 25, 2018 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: SCR TURN ON AND OFF INFO FROM FILES



Hi Steve,

"I have lost the address for the one started with a rope but at least We have seen two of these things running in Indonesia ."
That's the first video on his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH6iJ81QohKRlzGbG73FcjA

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <cltractor@...> wrote :

Hey Guys 
As I keep looking at the videos of the self runner I think I am learning a few things,as I looked at the two different videos of 2 different Guys doing the same thing the Gen set they have used looks to be a 2 cycle engine on it and they have taken the engine apart and still have the Crankshaft inside there turning with the rod and piston out of there it has to be out of balance so if anyone could take a round rod and machine it to go in that space would free up some friction make it a better unit. I am going to stop at some Washer and dryer Junk yards tomorrow and see if I can find a motor like that and will be looking for a 2 cycle Gen set.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-9Ei7v-ZY0&feature=youtu.be   ; I have lost the address for the one started with a rope but at least We have seen two of these things running in Indonesia .
Steve

 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: konehead@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Feb 23, 2018 10:58 am
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: SCR TURN ON AND OFF INFO FROM FILES



Hi WarrenI watched the Indonesian video a few more times, and that sure looks like a car alternator on the left side!I looked at Univers al AC DC motorsm and  they have (what I have seen)  two brushes at 180 degrees  on both sides of shaft  at one end of shaft, and the brushes are very visible too, but I see none of these on the presumed motor on left side, and it looks just like a common car alternator to me still, also there are only three wires going into it (red white blue) so this also makes me wonder if it is car alternator....Also look at the presumed generator/alternator on the right - for sure this looks just like a generator out of a common genset, but maybe he is using that as motor (somehow) and note there are two wires coming from it, so it must be single phase.... thinking backwards, maybe this is not a genset generator but a motor for a waterpump or electric rickshaw/motorcycle....(doubt it) but he has an earlier video with a rickshaw that has solar panels mounted on it....he shows the invertor he uses later (but with label off) and it is 1500W type, and 230VA....so if this is AC to AC motor generator, he is running on 230VAC I presume and will guess..I looked up converting car alternators into motors ....doesn't seem so practical to do unless 3ph and you have 3ph controllers I don't think he uses these in video.......
could be his :car alternator: rotor is specially made with permanent magnets in it, and stators also special, in that they hug the stator housing, and it becomes an AC motor.....I have built motors like this (that run on AC) but mine were "axial: like flat disc muller designs, but no reason not to do it all inside a car alternator housing and would not be that difficult either here is video I did of my permanent-magnet AC motors that work great as you have two magnets on each side of coil, pulling and pushing same time...at 1:20 I explain, at 2:20 it should make sense....anyways imagine doing something just like this all contained into car alternator housing....(tthis AC motor design one of best thing I have come up with) IFthat generator on right side makes 60hz for example at 1800 rpm (4pole) or 60hz for example at 3600rpm (2 pole) then you could construct the AC motor inside the car alternator housing to synch up with what the generator makes by either 4 N-S magnets, or 2 larger size N-S magnets and corresponding coil sizes within the stator housinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuq92YQKmbk&t=26sciaoKone