Re: [EVGRAY] Re: SCR TURN ON AND OFF INFO FROM FILES
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[1/2] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: SCR TURN ON AND OFF INFO FROM FILES
2018-02-25T14:16:03-05:00
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Hey Ole That is the one,Kone just pointed out the one Guy has Tatoos the other doesent the one with tatoos starts his with a rope and also still has his fuel tank intact if you stop the video while he is winding the rope you can see this guy has used a nut and welded an extender to it to link the Motor to the end of crankshaft the other Guy that starts his with inverter looks like he used a universal joint out of an automobile steering shaft to hook his up so he would have a little wiggle room.I am going to bet one of these Guys learned how to do this from the other . Steve Thanks Ole -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> To: EVGRAY <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Feb 25, 2018 1:43 pm Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: SCR TURN ON AND OFF INFO FROM FILES Hi Steve, "I have lost the address for the one started with a rope but at least We have seen two of these things running in Indonesia ." That's the first video on his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH6iJ81QohKRlzGbG73FcjA Regards Ole ---In [email protected], <cltractor@...> wrote : Hey Guys As I keep looking at the videos of the self runner I think I am learning a few things,as I looked at the two different videos of 2 different Guys doing the same thing the Gen set they have used looks to be a 2 cycle engine on it and they have taken the engine apart and still have the Crankshaft inside there turning with the rod and piston out of there it has to be out of balance so if anyone could take a round rod and machine it to go in that space would free up some friction make it a better unit. I am going to stop at some Washer and dryer Junk yards tomorrow and see if I can find a motor like that and will be looking for a 2 cycle Gen set. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-9Ei7v-ZY0&feature=youtu.be ; I have lost the address for the one started with a rope but at least We have seen two of these things running in Indonesia . Steve -----Original Message----- From: konehead@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> To: EVGRAY <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Feb 23, 2018 10:58 am Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: SCR TURN ON AND OFF INFO FROM FILES Hi Warren I watched the Indonesian video a few more times, and that sure looks like a car alternator on the left side! I looked at Univers al AC DC motorsm and they have (what I have seen) two brushes at 180 degrees on both sides of shaft at one end of shaft, and the brushes are very visible too, but I see none of these on the presumed motor on left side, and it looks just like a common car alternator to me still, also there are only three wires going into it (red white blue) so this also makes me wonder if it is car alternator... .Also look at the presumed generator/alternator on the right - for sure this looks just like a generator out of a common genset, but maybe he is using that as motor (somehow) and note there are two wires coming from it, so it must be single phase.... thinking backwards, maybe this is not a genset generator but a motor for a waterpump or electric rickshaw/motorcycle....(doubt it) but he has an earlier video with a rickshaw that has solar panels mounted on it....he shows the invertor he uses later (but with label off) and it is 1500W type, and 230VA....so if this is AC to AC motor generator, he is running on 230VAC I presume and will guess.. I looked up converting car alternators into motors ....doesn't seem so practical to do unless 3ph and you have 3ph controllers I don't think he uses these in video....... could be his :car alternator: rotor is specially made with permanent magnets in it, and stators also special, in that they hug the stator housing, and it becomes an AC motor.....I have built motors like this (that run on AC) but mine were "axial: like flat disc muller designs, but no reason not to do it all inside a car alternator housing and would not be that difficult either here is video I did of my permanent-magnet AC motors that work great as you have two magnets on each side of coil, pulling and pushing same time...at 1:20 I explain, at 2:20 it should make sense....anyways imagine doing something just like this all contained into car alternator housing....(tthis AC motor design one of best thing I have come up with) IFthat generator on right side makes 60hz for example at 1800 rpm (4pole) or 60hz for example at 3600rpm (2 pole) then you could construct the AC motor inside the car alternator housing to synch up with what the generator makes by either 4 N-S magnets, or 2 larger size N-S magnets and corresponding coil sizes within the stator housing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuq92YQKmbk&t=26s ciao Kone
[2/2] Re: [EVGRAY] Re: SCR TURN ON AND OFF INFO FROM FILES
2018-02-25T19:24:26+00:00
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Douglas Konzen
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Hi Steve and all I just wrote to Okki in Germany who speaks Indonesian, and said he will translate what these guys are saying when he gets home from work.... maybe we can get a few more clues... I don't think the generator is 3ph but maybe still I have it backwards and the genset is actually working as a motor (perhaps PM rotor installed) while the car alternator looking thing is a car alternator making 3ph with the diodes pulled out of it....I don't know as is usual....I keep shifting from one way it is to the other, can't decide which it is but that sure at least looks like car alternator... Maybe this is the big video-joke as they think everyone will think the car alternator is a motor, and no one will figure it out what is going on.... ciao Kone
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