Re: AW: [EVGRAY] Re: good new year,

HDTry a Rotoverter1.614 or 1.618 is available using an off the shelf WEG 3 phase Chinese. Motor and a selection of oil filled caps, switches go make a nice job of it, and it is a runner. Then put a multi voltage transformer in series with the caps and then pull the load off it. The load is more amps than you put in.Mine is reliable and works fine.I even have two of them , one with seals and grease, the othet without.They are identical. There is a 200 ma penalty to have seals and grease, no load, full rpm. I have run off the other plus ran a Rene charget for 12 batteries.You can do this too, or something even better.One device compounded with other working devices puts you way over the top. Heat pumps? Etc.Cheers Warren

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  On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:52 PM, HD Zeddies [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Hi Douglas and Warren,

  

Nice to hear from you.

  

Here we have rebuild a turbine developed by Professor evert.

http://www.evert.de/ap0604.htm

  

It was a really excellent machine work but it doesn’t work as expected. I think there are missing some important Details. Regarding the clem engine I read something about this some months ago. But, frankly speaking, it will make only a real sense if we have good drawings and a good math. If we can work on this we could understand the way of working, then we can build it with the available stuff here in the lab.

  

Regarding bi torroid I will meet some guys the next months to work on this. We are going to check the circuits to understand something and protect us against Fails. We are intended to drive a HHo cell with this bi torroid while the other guys are sure to produce energy in the water and I believe it is produced in the bi torroid tansformer in the same matter as in my MEG replication. Maybe all of us are a Little bit in touch with the success then we can make something interesting. 

  

But the experience Shows, that to hit the bell it needs a lot of fortune.

  

The Clips about the thane Heintz effect are already on my HDD since some months, I suppose, that the Special effect with less consumption under load could be a resonnance effect. I have had the same effect with a rotoverter and also with the MEG under Special circumstances. But I have never reached a higher Generation of energy as consumed. As you know that I try to understand Things and would like to do the calculation when god gives me the time.

  

  

  

HD

  

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Von: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 19:44
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: good new year,

  

  

Doug

Wow the Clem motor!

Remember my mad foray into the stainless steel kitchen spoon turbine?

I was making a turbine, as seen on TV, actually, as provided from a link to youtube from our group, of a guy using water pressure in his garage to make energy magic.
After buying that rather nifty pump, building the turbine and not having success, I moved on.

Looking at the Clem though, I think I see where I may have screwed up.

The type of turbine these Clem folks use is interesting. It is a glorified lawn sprinkler shielded to reuse the water.

Now anyone who has used a pressure washer knows the little suckers develop equal and opposite reation at the other end of the gun. 

We have to do the math.

That is not my strong point, but I see the point of basing practice on theory.

One saves a lot of machine shop time.

I am lucky to have machine tools that are emerging out of cardboard cartons in the barns.

Doug, what are you thinking?

Do you get any indication of how much over unity these guys are getting?

That pool turbine football shaped pump I bought for that other experiment is a teriffic pump, delivering a lot, using small amperage. It might be a contender. It runs on 120 ac , that means we have to generate 120 ac somehow with the super charged lawn sprinkler.

This is hilarious,

Remember talk about no one over unity device being able to loop on its own?

Well, this seems to be yet another tool in our tool box that we can combine with the rest, to make a workable system.

It will look hilarious on the back of my 1954 Chev 1.5 ton with all this plumbers nightmare married to Tesla coils, done in tasteful clear plexi supplying power to drive down her the highway.

It might be fun to make a working model to test this concept.

I am stronger in the machine shop, than wrestling with IGBTs.

I do hydraulics, just fine.

I have moved my whole damn studio, plus storage basement, 4 hours East, to a 170 year old bunch of stone and timber structures on a space where I won't alarm my neighbours, working night or day.

My nightmare, at present is to get all my trash organized. Last week's minus 30 C temperatures have turned into plus 4 and like the rest of the surroundings, I am coming out of survival mode, having to waddle around on snow shoes to avoid sinking down to my chest in snow.

The Clem gives me some fun to look at doing. Thanks Doug.

Cheers Warren

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On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:19 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]

<[email protected]> wrote:

  

Hi HD

Yes still working on my Muller generator, bought some solid state relays so I can raise voltages and keep switches independent, also have taken it apart completelyt and re did about three times in two month...have gone to 12mm airgap between generator coils and rotor magnets to enhance the "phase shift" of when lenz law grabs the rotor...motor coils about 1.5mm airgap...ohms to the generator coils very high now, about 80ohms average...looking to get speed up under loading (no lenz) via the Thane Karl Heinz effect....cannot get backing magnets to do anyting on this machine......

here is link below where speed up under loading  it works at certain frequency...I think with these 8 magnets will need around 4000rpm to get it to work.....

I know about the Steve Marks stuff.,...never done it however cannot say if I recommend it or not.....

can you search the Clem motor??? IT looks really fun, : big chamber shoots out oil in 90 degree jets the thing goes like crazy....Clem was murdered he had 350hp motor they say... anyways looks like a really fun project for Mr Starks factory....

Also the Thane Karl; Heinz  "Bitorroid" transformer looks very interesting too to try out can you search that too? Basically three coils in transformer and an extra flux-bar top and bottom that makes secondaries feed one another, instead of reflecting back to primary.....

some videos...clem motor last link (in German!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24I12hrpTDY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVFXSZzUNmE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdL5EFkfxBQ

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfWJIltf-UI

  




  
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HD
Try a Rotoverter1.614 or 1.618 is available using an off the shelf WEG 3 phase Chinese. Motor and a selection of oil filled caps, switches go make a nice job of it, and it is a runner. Then put a multi voltage transformer in series with the caps and then pull the load off it. The load is more amps than you put in.Mine is reliable and works fine.I even have two of them , one with seals and grease, the othet without.They are identical. There is a 200 ma penalty to have seals and grease, no load, full rpm. I have run off the other plus ran a Rene charget for 12 batteries.You can do this too, or something even better.One device compounded with other working devices puts you way over the top. Heat pumps? Etc.Cheers Warren

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  On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:52 PM, HD Zeddies [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Hi Douglas and Warren,

  

Nice to hear from you.

  

Here we have rebuild a turbine developed by Professor evert.

http://www.evert.de/ap0604.htm

  

It was a really excellent machine work but it doesn’t work as expected. I think there are missing some important Details. Regarding the clem engine I read something about this some months ago. But, frankly speaking, it will make only a real sense if we have good drawings and a good math. If we can work on this we could understand the way of working, then we can build it with the available stuff here in the lab.

  

Regarding bi torroid I will meet some guys the next months to work on this. We are going to check the circuits to understand something and protect us against Fails. We are intended to drive a HHo cell with this bi torroid while the other guys are sure to produce energy in the water and I believe it is produced in the bi torroid tansformer in the same matter as in my MEG replication. Maybe all of us are a Little bit in touch with the success then we can make something interesting. 

  

But the experience Shows, that to hit the bell it needs a lot of fortune.

  

The Clips about the thane Heintz effect are already on my HDD since some months, I suppose, that the Special effect with less consumption under load could be a resonnance effect. I have had the same effect with a rotoverter and also with the MEG under Special circumstances. But I have never reached a higher Generation of energy as consumed. As you know that I try to understand Things and would like to do the calculation when god gives me the time.

  

  

  

HD

  

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Von: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 19:44
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: good new year,

  

  

Doug

Wow the Clem motor!

Remember my mad foray into the stainless steel kitchen spoon turbine?

I was making a turbine, as seen on TV, actually, as provided from a link to youtube from our group, of a guy using water pressure in his garage to make energy magic.
After buying that rather nifty pump, building the turbine and not having success, I moved on.

Looking at the Clem though, I think I see where I may have screwed up.

The type of turbine these Clem folks use is interesting. It is a glorified lawn sprinkler shielded to reuse the water.

Now anyone who has used a pressure washer knows the little suckers develop equal and opposite reation at the other end of the gun. 

We have to do the math.

That is not my strong point, but I see the point of basing practice on theory.

One saves a lot of machine shop time.

I am lucky to have machine tools that are emerging out of cardboard cartons in the barns.

Doug, what are you thinking?

Do you get any indication of how much over unity these guys are getting?

That pool turbine football shaped pump I bought for that other experiment is a teriffic pump, delivering a lot, using small amperage. It might be a contender. It runs on 120 ac , that means we have to generate 120 ac somehow with the super charged lawn sprinkler.

This is hilarious,

Remember talk about no one over unity device being able to loop on its own?

Well, this seems to be yet another tool in our tool box that we can combine with the rest, to make a workable system.

It will look hilarious on the back of my 1954 Chev 1.5 ton with all this plumbers nightmare married to Tesla coils, done in tasteful clear plexi supplying power to drive down her the highway.

It might be fun to make a working model to test this concept.

I am stronger in the machine shop, than wrestling with IGBTs.

I do hydraulics, just fine.

I have moved my whole damn studio, plus storage basement, 4 hours East, to a 170 year old bunch of stone and timber structures on a space where I won't alarm my neighbours, working night or day.

My nightmare, at present is to get all my trash organized. Last week's minus 30 C temperatures have turned into plus 4 and like the rest of the surroundings, I am coming out of survival mode, having to waddle around on snow shoes to avoid sinking down to my chest in snow.

The Clem gives me some fun to look at doing. Thanks Doug.

Cheers Warren

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On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:19 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]

<[email protected]> wrote:

  

Hi HD

Yes still working on my Muller generator, bought some solid state relays so I can raise voltages and keep switches independent, also have taken it apart completelyt and re did about three times in two month...have gone to 12mm airgap between generator coils and rotor magnets to enhance the "phase shift" of when lenz law grabs the rotor...motor coils about 1.5mm airgap...ohms to the generator coils very high now, about 80ohms average...looking to get speed up under loading (no lenz) via the Thane Karl Heinz effect....cannot get backing magnets to do anyting on this machine......

here is link below where speed up under loading  it works at certain frequency...I think with these 8 magnets will need around 4000rpm to get it to work.....

I know about the Steve Marks stuff.,...never done it however cannot say if I recommend it or not.....

can you search the Clem motor??? IT looks really fun, : big chamber shoots out oil in 90 degree jets the thing goes like crazy....Clem was murdered he had 350hp motor they say... anyways looks like a really fun project for Mr Starks factory....

Also the Thane Karl; Heinz  "Bitorroid" transformer looks very interesting too to try out can you search that too? Basically three coils in transformer and an extra flux-bar top and bottom that makes secondaries feed one another, instead of reflecting back to primary.....

some videos...clem motor last link (in German!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24I12hrpTDY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVFXSZzUNmE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdL5EFkfxBQ

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfWJIltf-UI

  




  
    
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   ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Warren Keillor" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc:  Sent: Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:17 PM Subject: Re: AW: [EVGRAY] Re: good new year,  HDTry a Rotoverter1.614 or 1.618 is available using an off the shelf WEG 3 phase Chinese. Motor and a selection of oil filled caps, switches go make a nice job of it, and it is a runner. Then put a multi voltage transformer in series with the caps and then pull the load off it. The load is more amps than you put in.Mine is reliable and works fine.I even have two of them , one with seals and grease, the othet without.They are identical. There is a 200 ma penalty to have seals and grease, no load, full rpm. I have run off the other plus ran a Rene charget for 12 batteries.You can do this too, or something even better.One device compounded with other working devices puts you way over the top. Heat pumps? Etc.Cheers Warren

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  On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:52 PM, HD Zeddies [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Hi Douglas and Warren,

  

Nice to hear from you.

  

Here we have rebuild a turbine developed by Professor evert.

http://www.evert.de/ap0604.htm

  

It was a really excellent machine work but it doesn’t work as expected. I think there are missing some important Details. Regarding the clem engine I read something about this some months ago. But, frankly speaking, it will make only a real sense if we have good drawings and a good math. If we can work on this we could understand the way of working, then we can build it with the available stuff here in the lab.

  

Regarding bi torroid I will meet some guys the next months to work on this. We are going to check the circuits to understand something and protect us against Fails. We are intended to drive a HHo cell with this bi torroid while the other guys are sure to produce energy in the water and I believe it is produced in the bi torroid tansformer in the same matter as in my MEG replication. Maybe all of us are a Little bit in touch with the success then we can make something interesting. 

  

But the experience Shows, that to hit the bell it needs a lot of fortune.

  

The Clips about the thane Heintz effect are already on my HDD since some months, I suppose, that the Special effect with less consumption under load could be a resonnance effect. I have had the same effect with a rotoverter and also with the MEG under Special circumstances. But I have never reached a higher Generation of energy as consumed. As you know that I try to understand Things and would like to do the calculation when god gives me the time.

  

  

  

HD

  

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Von: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 19:44
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: good new year,

  

  

Doug

Wow the Clem motor!

Remember my mad foray into the stainless steel kitchen spoon turbine?

I was making a turbine, as seen on TV, actually, as provided from a link to youtube from our group, of a guy using water pressure in his garage to make energy magic.
After buying that rather nifty pump, building the turbine and not having success, I moved on.

Looking at the Clem though, I think I see where I may have screwed up.

The type of turbine these Clem folks use is interesting. It is a glorified lawn sprinkler shielded to reuse the water.

Now anyone who has used a pressure washer knows the little suckers develop equal and opposite reation at the other end of the gun. 

We have to do the math.

That is not my strong point, but I see the point of basing practice on theory.

One saves a lot of machine shop time.

I am lucky to have machine tools that are emerging out of cardboard cartons in the barns.

Doug, what are you thinking?

Do you get any indication of how much over unity these guys are getting?

That pool turbine football shaped pump I bought for that other experiment is a teriffic pump, delivering a lot, using small amperage. It might be a contender. It runs on 120 ac , that means we have to generate 120 ac somehow with the super charged lawn sprinkler.

This is hilarious,

Remember talk about no one over unity device being able to loop on its own?

Well, this seems to be yet another tool in our tool box that we can combine with the rest, to make a workable system.

It will look hilarious on the back of my 1954 Chev 1.5 ton with all this plumbers nightmare married to Tesla coils, done in tasteful clear plexi supplying power to drive down her the highway.

It might be fun to make a working model to test this concept.

I am stronger in the machine shop, than wrestling with IGBTs.

I do hydraulics, just fine.

I have moved my whole damn studio, plus storage basement, 4 hours East, to a 170 year old bunch of stone and timber structures on a space where I won't alarm my neighbours, working night or day.

My nightmare, at present is to get all my trash organized. Last week's minus 30 C temperatures have turned into plus 4 and like the rest of the surroundings, I am coming out of survival mode, having to waddle around on snow shoes to avoid sinking down to my chest in snow.

The Clem gives me some fun to look at doing. Thanks Doug.

Cheers Warren

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On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:19 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]

<[email protected]> wrote:

  

Hi HD

Yes still working on my Muller generator, bought some solid state relays so I can raise voltages and keep switches independent, also have taken it apart completelyt and re did about three times in two month...have gone to 12mm airgap between generator coils and rotor magnets to enhance the "phase shift" of when lenz law grabs the rotor...motor coils about 1.5mm airgap...ohms to the generator coils very high now, about 80ohms average...looking to get speed up under loading (no lenz) via the Thane Karl Heinz effect....cannot get backing magnets to do anyting on this machine......

here is link below where speed up under loading  it works at certain frequency...I think with these 8 magnets will need around 4000rpm to get it to work.....

I know about the Steve Marks stuff.,...never done it however cannot say if I recommend it or not.....

can you search the Clem motor??? IT looks really fun, : big chamber shoots out oil in 90 degree jets the thing goes like crazy....Clem was murdered he had 350hp motor they say... anyways looks like a really fun project for Mr Starks factory....

Also the Thane Karl; Heinz  "Bitorroid" transformer looks very interesting too to try out can you search that too? Basically three coils in transformer and an extra flux-bar top and bottom that makes secondaries feed one another, instead of reflecting back to primary.....

some videos...clem motor last link (in German!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24I12hrpTDY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVFXSZzUNmE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdL5EFkfxBQ

  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfWJIltf-UI

  




  
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