Re: good new year,

Hi HD
 Yes still working on my Muller generator, bought some solid state relays so I can raise voltages and keep switches independent, also have taken it apart completelyt and re did about three times in two month...have gone to 12mm airgap between generator coils and rotor magnets to enhance the "phase shift" of when lenz law grabs the rotor...motor coils about 1.5mm airgap...ohms to the generator coils very high now, about 80ohms average...looking to get speed up under loading (no lenz) via the Thane Karl Heinz effect....cannot get backing magnets to do anyting on this machine.....
 here is link below where speed up under loading  it works at certain frequency...I think with these 8 magnets will need around 4000rpm to get it to work.....
 I know about the Steve Marks stuff.,...never done it however cannot say if I recommend it or not.....
 can you search the Clem motor??? IT looks really fun, : big chamber shoots out oil in 90 degree jets the thing goes like crazy....Clem was murdered he had 350hp motor they say... anyways looks like a really fun project for Mr Starks factory....
 Also the Thane Karl; Heinz  "Bitorroid" transformer looks very interesting too to try out can you search that too? Basically three coils in transformer and an extra flux-bar top and bottom that makes secondaries feed one another, instead of reflecting back to primary....
 some videos...clem motor last link (in German!)
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24I12hrpTDY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24I12hrpTDY
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVFXSZzUNmE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVFXSZzUNmE
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdL5EFkfxBQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdL5EFkfxBQ
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfWJIltf-UI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfWJIltf-UI

DougWow the Clem motor!Remember my mad foray into the stainless steel kitchen spoon turbine?I was making a turbine, as seen on TV, actually, as provided from a link to youtube from our group, of a guy using water pressure in his garage to make energy magic.
After buying that rather nifty pump, building the turbine and not having success, I moved on.Looking at the Clem though, I think I see where I may have screwed up.The type of turbine these Clem folks use is interesting. It is a glorified lawn sprinkler shielded to reuse the water.Now anyone who has used a pressure washer knows the little suckers develop equal and opposite reation at the other end of the gun. We have to do the math.That is not my strong point, but I see the point of basing practice on theory.One saves a lot of machine shop time.I am lucky to have machine tools that are emerging out of cardboard cartons in the barns.Doug, what are you thinking?Do you get any indication of how much over unity these guys are getting?That pool turbine football shaped pump I bought for that other experiment is a teriffic pump, delivering a lot, using small amperage. It might be a contender. It runs on 120 ac , that means we have to generate 120 ac somehow with the super charged lawn sprinkler.This is hilarious,Remember talk about no one over unity device being able to loop on its own?Well, this seems to be yet another tool in our tool box that we can combine with the rest, to make a workable system.It will look hilarious on the back of my 1954 Chev 1.5 ton with all this plumbers nightmare married to Tesla coils, done in tasteful clear plexi supplying power to drive down her the highway.It might be fun to make a working model to test this concept.I am stronger in the machine shop, than wrestling with IGBTs.I do hydraulics, just fine.I have moved my whole damn studio, plus storage basement, 4 hours East, to a 170 year old bunch of stone and timber structures on a space where I won't alarm my neighbours, working night or day.My nightmare, at present is to get all my trash organized. Last week's minus 30 C temperatures have turned into plus 4 and like the rest of the surroundings, I am coming out of survival mode, having to waddle around on snow shoes to avoid sinking down to my chest in snow.The Clem gives me some fun to look at doing. Thanks Doug.Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:19 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Hi HD

Yes still working on my Muller generator, bought some solid state relays so I can raise voltages and keep switches independent, also have taken it apart completelyt and re did about three times in two month...have gone to 12mm airgap between generator coils and rotor magnets to enhance the "phase shift" of when lenz law grabs the rotor...motor coils about 1.5mm airgap...ohms to the generator coils very high now, about 80ohms average...looking to get speed up under loading (no lenz) via the Thane Karl Heinz effect....cannot get backing magnets to do anyting on this machine.....

here is link below where speed up under loading  it works at certain frequency...I think with these 8 magnets will need around 4000rpm to get it to work.....

I know about the Steve Marks stuff.,...never done it however cannot say if I recommend it or not.....

can you search the Clem motor??? IT looks really fun, : big chamber shoots out oil in 90 degree jets the thing goes like crazy....Clem was murdered he had 350hp motor they say... anyways looks like a really fun project for Mr Starks factory....

Also the Thane Karl; Heinz  "Bitorroid" transformer looks very interesting too to try out can you search that too? Basically three coils in transformer and an extra flux-bar top and bottom that makes secondaries feed one another, instead of reflecting back to primary....

some videos...clem motor last link (in German!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24I12hrpTDY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVFXSZzUNmE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdL5EFkfxBQ




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfWJIltf-UI



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Kono
I woke up the other day dreaming about a Muller magnet motor variant I saw
years ago .I like it and think it has OU potential ..it wasn't a Muller in
the patent but in my dream it was . it's like 16 magnets stationary and 15
notational the stationary have very thin wire pancake coils over each one
maybe several layers .here's where it gets interesting the more windings
the coils have the greater the magnetic flux field or power by using fine
wire and much higher voltage I could add additional windings .now then a
rotating magnet comes in perfect alignment with a stationary the coil fires
using a photo diode switch .here's the point you fire once eliminating the
lockup and you have 29 neo's pulling in rotational  unison that's a strong
power configuration. A 1 to 29 ratio or 1 to 56 ratio ! Then use a Muller
to generate power .the author said he ran his ..with out the fine wire and
with out the Muller configuration on a 9 volt battery and got ? I think he
said 20,000 rpm ...on a nine volt battery ...what you think your a Muller
person ? Jim
On Jan 10, 2018 12:44 PM, "Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Doug
> Wow the Clem motor!
> Remember my mad foray into the stainless steel kitchen spoon turbine?
> I was making a turbine, as seen on TV, actually, as provided from a link
> to youtube from our group, of a guy using water pressure in his garage to
> make energy magic.
> After buying that rather nifty pump, building the turbine and not having
> success, I moved on.
> Looking at the Clem though, I think I see where I may have screwed up.
> The type of turbine these Clem folks use is interesting. It is a glorified
> lawn sprinkler shielded to reuse the water.
> Now anyone who has used a pressure washer knows the little suckers develop
> equal and opposite reation at the other end of the gun.
> We have to do the math.
> That is not my strong point, but I see the point of basing practice on
> theory.
> One saves a lot of machine shop time.
> I am lucky to have machine tools that are emerging out of cardboard
> cartons in the barns.
> Doug, what are you thinking?
> Do you get any indication of how much over unity these guys are getting?
> That pool turbine football shaped pump I bought for that other experiment
> is a teriffic pump, delivering a lot, using small amperage. It might be a
> contender. It runs on 120 ac , that means we have to generate 120 ac
> somehow with the super charged lawn sprinkler.
> This is hilarious,
> Remember talk about no one over unity device being able to loop on its own?
> Well, this seems to be yet another tool in our tool box that we can
> combine with the rest, to make a workable system.
> It will look hilarious on the back of my 1954 Chev 1.5 ton with all this
> plumbers nightmare married to Tesla coils, done in tasteful clear plexi
> supplying power to drive down her the highway.
> It might be fun to make a working model to test this concept.
> I am stronger in the machine shop, than wrestling with IGBTs.
> I do hydraulics, just fine.
> I have moved my whole damn studio, plus storage basement, 4 hours East, to
> a 170 year old bunch of stone and timber structures on a space where I
> won't alarm my neighbours, working night or day.
> My nightmare, at present is to get all my trash organized. Last week's
> minus 30 C temperatures have turned into plus 4 and like the rest of the
> surroundings, I am coming out of survival mode, having to waddle around on
> snow shoes to avoid sinking down to my chest in snow.
> The Clem gives me some fun to look at doing. Thanks Doug.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:19 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi HD
>
> Yes still working on my Muller generator, bought some solid state relays
> so I can raise voltages and keep switches independent, also have taken it
> apart completelyt and re did about three times in two month...have gone to
> 12mm airgap between generator coils and rotor magnets to enhance the "phase
> shift" of when lenz law grabs the rotor...motor coils about 1.5mm
> airgap...ohms to the generator coils very high now, about 80ohms
> average...looking to get speed up under loading (no lenz) via the Thane
> Karl Heinz effect....cannot get backing magnets to do anyting on this
> machine.....
>
> here is link below where speed up under loading  it works at certain
> frequency...I think with these 8 magnets will need around 4000rpm to get it
> to work.....
>
> I know about the Steve Marks stuff.,...never done it however cannot say if
> I recommend it or not.....
>
> can you search the Clem motor??? IT looks really fun, : big chamber shoots
> out oil in 90 degree jets the thing goes like crazy....Clem was murdered he
> had 350hp motor they say... anyways looks like a really fun project for Mr
> Starks factory....
>
> Also the Thane Karl; Heinz  "Bitorroid" transformer looks very interesting
> too to try out can you search that too? Basically three coils in
> transformer and an extra flux-bar top and bottom that makes secondaries
> feed one another, instead of reflecting back to primary....
>
> some videos...clem motor last link (in German!)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24I12hrpTDY
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVFXSZzUNmE
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdL5EFkfxBQ
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfWJIltf-UI
>
>
> 
>

Hi Douglas and Warren,

Nice to hear from you.

Here we have rebuild a turbine developed by Professor evert.
http://www.evert.de/ap0604.htm

It was a really excellent machine work but it doesn’t work as expected. I think there are missing some important Details. Regarding the clem engine I read something about this some months ago. But, frankly speaking, it will make only a real sense if we have good drawings and a good math. If we can work on this we could understand the way of working, then we can build it with the available stuff here in the lab.

Regarding bi torroid I will meet some guys the next months to work on this. We are going to check the circuits to understand something and protect us against Fails. We are intended to drive a HHo cell with this bi torroid while the other guys are sure to produce energy in the water and I believe it is produced in the bi torroid tansformer in the same matter as in my MEG replication. Maybe all of us are a Little bit in touch with the success then we can make something interesting. 

But the experience Shows, that to hit the bell it needs a lot of fortune.

The Clips about the thane Heintz effect are already on my HDD since some months, I suppose, that the Special effect with less consumption under load could be a resonnance effect. I have had the same effect with a rotoverter and also with the MEG under Special circumstances. But I have never reached a higher Generation of energy as consumed. As you know that I try to understand Things and would like to do the calculation when god gives me the time.



HD

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Von: Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 19:44
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: good new year,

  
Doug
Wow the Clem motor!
Remember my mad foray into the stainless steel kitchen spoon turbine?
I was making a turbine, as seen on TV, actually, as provided from a link to youtube from our group, of a guy using water pressure in his garage to make energy magic.
After buying that rather nifty pump, building the turbine and not having success, I moved on.
Looking at the Clem though, I think I see where I may have screwed up.
The type of turbine these Clem folks use is interesting. It is a glorified lawn sprinkler shielded to reuse the water.
Now anyone who has used a pressure washer knows the little suckers develop equal and opposite reation at the other end of the gun. 
We have to do the math.
That is not my strong point, but I see the point of basing practice on theory.
One saves a lot of machine shop time.
I am lucky to have machine tools that are emerging out of cardboard cartons in the barns.
Doug, what are you thinking?
Do you get any indication of how much over unity these guys are getting?
That pool turbine football shaped pump I bought for that other experiment is a teriffic pump, delivering a lot, using small amperage. It might be a contender. It runs on 120 ac , that means we have to generate 120 ac somehow with the super charged lawn sprinkler.
This is hilarious,
Remember talk about no one over unity device being able to loop on its own?
Well, this seems to be yet another tool in our tool box that we can combine with the rest, to make a workable system.
It will look hilarious on the back of my 1954 Chev 1.5 ton with all this plumbers nightmare married to Tesla coils, done in tasteful clear plexi supplying power to drive down her the highway.
It might be fun to make a working model to test this concept.
I am stronger in the machine shop, than wrestling with IGBTs.
I do hydraulics, just fine.
I have moved my whole damn studio, plus storage basement, 4 hours East, to a 170 year old bunch of stone and timber structures on a space where I won't alarm my neighbours, working night or day.
My nightmare, at present is to get all my trash organized. Last week's minus 30 C temperatures have turned into plus 4 and like the rest of the surroundings, I am coming out of survival mode, having to waddle around on snow shoes to avoid sinking down to my chest in snow.
The Clem gives me some fun to look at doing. Thanks Doug.
Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:19 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:
  
Hi HD
Yes still working on my Muller generator, bought some solid state relays so I can raise voltages and keep switches independent, also have taken it apart completelyt and re did about three times in two month...have gone to 12mm airgap between generator coils and rotor magnets to enhance the "phase shift" of when lenz law grabs the rotor...motor coils about 1.5mm airgap...ohms to the generator coils very high now, about 80ohms average...looking to get speed up under loading (no lenz) via the Thane Karl Heinz effect....cannot get backing magnets to do anyting on this machine.....
here is link below where speed up under loading  it works at certain frequency...I think with these 8 magnets will need around 4000rpm to get it to work.....
I know about the Steve Marks stuff.,...never done it however cannot say if I recommend it or not.....
can you search the Clem motor??? IT looks really fun, : big chamber shoots out oil in 90 degree jets the thing goes like crazy....Clem was murdered he had 350hp motor they say... anyways looks like a really fun project for Mr Starks factory....
Also the Thane Karl; Heinz  "Bitorroid" transformer looks very interesting too to try out can you search that too? Basically three coils in transformer and an extra flux-bar top and bottom that makes secondaries feed one another, instead of reflecting back to primary....
some videos...clem motor last link (in German!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24I12hrpTDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVFXSZzUNmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdL5EFkfxBQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfWJIltf-UI