Re: [EVGRAY] Secrets Revealed! "What Masons have Been Hiding" Ancient cosmology. A must see and share video

I wonder what would come out if you put flat earth into the bible codes ?
Probably something like .What hell are you taking about ?😊

On Dec 5, 2017 08:29, "george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:



Hi Ole,

With respect mate.

You said:

*"If the truth is wanted use the scientific method. This way a theory is
discarded in favor of a better theory. The theory best describing the issue
wins. This way science progresses by getting closer to the truth when using
the scientific method". *

As you advised me to do, here are a couple of videos that use the *scientific
method* to prove the flat earth.

When we can see the moon in Perth and at the exact same time people can see
the moon in Nashville, Tennessee, we know for sure that the earth can't be
a ball and it has to be flat.

Flat Earth, its over, Moon tells all. <https://youtu.be/rSP_afWjKss>

Flat Earth, its over, Moon tells all.
Think I said Dec 18th should be Dec 12th Here is the moon chart
http://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/moon/light....
<https://youtu.be/rSP_afWjKss>


This Viral Video Flattenes The Globe Forever | Undeniable Proofs | The
Earth Is Flat <https://youtu.be/3d84Pu67X7Y>

This Viral Video Flattenes The Globe Forever | Undeniable Proofs | The
Eart...
We must have been crazy to believe to live on a spinning ball in space.
Like Sub and Share Thanks!! Best undenie...
<https://youtu.be/3d84Pu67X7Y>



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*From:* "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Tuesday, 5 December 2017, 10:08

*Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] Secrets Revealed! "What Masons have Been Hiding"
Ancient cosmology. A must see and share video


Hi George,

If the truth is wanted use the scientific method. This way a theory is
discarded in favor of a better theory. The theory best describing the issue
wins. This way science progresses by getting closer to the truth when using
the scientific method. As the flat earth theory can't explain a lot of
observations and doesn't predict solar eclipses etc. which the sun centered
theory has easy explanations and predictions for this later theory is to be
preferred. Use Occam's razor to choose the simplest explanation as nature
economizes its energy.

By choosing people's opinions form the debate doesn't make us come closer
to the truth. Doing experiments to have nature answer questions is a much
better way as proposed by the scientific method. When the answers of the
experiments fit the theoretical predictions the theory works. A better
theory may still come forth if the current theory doesn't explain all the
experimental facts (answers). This is why theories are refined or
completely discarded in favor of better theories.

VoysovReason has a video series showing some of the many problems of the
flat earth theory and showing how a better theory predicts the observed
results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ksbh88OJs&list=PLAbO4DdyTGZpp-IOSB7qUbb_
QYYg9ZA9B

Of course if there’s no wish to be enlightened all results of research can
be skipped or chosen only to fit into an incomplete theory to be able to
stay in the dark. We can't help you then. But don't believe you can move
people into the dark when they've first been enlightened. To promote the
flat earth theory it has to be better than the state of the art of the
current theory.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :

Ole,

I copied some negative comments on the videos.

[image: perspective of Reality]
<https://www.youtube.com/user/viper55420able>
perspective of Reality <https://www.youtube.com/user/viper55420able> 3
months ago
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTDNVI1Cxd4&lc=Ugze6-0E7D9L0D-NTXd4AaABAg>
Wait did i miss something? There was no mesurment overlay to compare the
size change if any. the vid did not follow till the sun set as it would be
further away and start to change in size the most at tjst point. But the
vid stops before we could see what happens as it went out of view and set
over the horizon. all I seen was longitude and latitude coordinates. Not an
actual mesurment of the sun size as it sets. not only that but your
tracking the sun. You have to have the scope fixed in the observation
direction of the sun setting, And fixed in zoom. then time laps the sun as
it sets with the overly mesurment graph in view as it does so. So we can
watch it set as we see it move over the comparison mesurment markers. to
see it change or not. this is just an opinion of observation. There's no
mesurment of the sun in this vid. Wait didn't we just have this discussion
that there was no vid of you with no measurements. You left out the most
important mesurment of all. The sun's size. Really? You do see the problem
right?


Hank Jensen <https://www.youtube.com/user/hankjnsn35> 8 minutes ago
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ksbh88OJs&lc=UgwYLpuJA0K4cOrhTdh4AaABAg>
I’m sorry in advance to be a complainer but I feel it’s important to say
that your logic is poor. I am not a flat earther but if you take an orange
and cut it, you are just making a flat circle. And whatever is below your
vantage point from the now flat part of the orange is irrelevant, as you
can essentially cut that off too and you would be left with a flat round
disc. The horizon, whether flat or curved does in fact need to come around
and connect to itself. We are always looking down on the earth. And the
higher up we go, the more curvature we should see. Just as all the photos
from balloons and nasa show us. So do you think, if these balloons or nasa
were to show a 360 degree shot, the horizon would not connect to itself?
You can see this for yourself with your own hand, curved in a ball, in
front of your face. As you turn it, the highest level of the horizon stays
at eye level but from every direction, you will see curvature on the left
and right side. Flat earthers are using mathematically sound equations for
the curvature we should see based on the size of the earth, the viewable
distance and the height of the viewpoint. Off topic, Einstein himself said
either coordinate system (round or flat) could be true. Like I said I am
not a flat earther. But I am not an advocate that the earth is a globe
either. There is quite a bit of conflicted data for those who open their
eyes and see it. And i have yet to see a good explanation for the lack of
curvature that the equations show us we should see. One of my best friends,
who I trust strongly, believes there is no conspiracy and he has suggested
that maybe light somehow bends via gravity and that is why we do not see
solid (non photo) proof and why the numerous tests over water prove that
there isn’t curvature where there should be. I would be interested in an
explanation along those lines. But cutting a round object and making it
flat, is not a good explanation. I suggest you take the video down as it
gives people false information. I also suggest the majority of flat earth
videos be taken down as well as most of them (not all) use poor logic. But
the curvature issue is a real problem. NASA should have stepped up and put
it to bed with sound proof that doesn’t involve a great lack of actual
video footage above earth, of Earth and in space. I do not believe we went
to the moon, traveling 25,000 miles per hour, 250,000 miles away, in the
small Apollo vessels and landed there and flew back, 50 years ago and that
we lost the technology to go back there. Nor do I believe it was ok to
murder millions of Jews. Nor do I believe we evolved from non life or
single celled life. And yet so many people believe and or believed in these
things. You can call it conspiracy or you can call it lies to benefit the
liars, but either way, there are a lot of liars out there. Some people,
like me, don’t care about the mocking and fear mongering used to scare
people into thinking that they are stupid for questioning things. It seems
to me that you are somewhere in the middle of that type and that you
genuinely want to help people understand and believe that you are clearing
up a problem. But it’s not cleared up. You, being a doer, and me being just
a sayer here, I’d like to watch a video that I don’t have to stop watching
early on because the logic was not well thought through. Good luck and God
bless.


Jimmy Jones <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOeomRH06yWzssWJVIQhHOw> 3
days ago
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGZEXkSX9wI&lc=UgzQhjMo6c60Ku94UA54AaABAg>
Okay bro. Lake Bihakail Russia is 395 miles long. Still with me? It freezes
over every year and can be seen from one end to the other with minimal
effort. Still with me? Now my questions to you are, "how many 395 mile
sections of flat terrain does it take to make a sphere?" How did Richard
Nixon make a 395,000 mile phone call in 1969? What's the formula for
shuttles thrusting in a vacuum? Why have constellations remained in the
exact sequences since hieroglyph cave drawings? Why does the horizon rise
to eye level, regardless of altitude, if our terrain exhibits any form of
rotundity? Why don't planes constantly dip their nose downward to account
for the constant curvature they encounter to ensure they remain at the same
cruising height? I thought so... Return to your programming... Dont forget
to get your 8 glasses a day LMAO


[image: DavidZimbeck] <https://www.youtube.com/user/DavidZimbeck>
DavidZimbeck <https://www.youtube.com/user/DavidZimbeck> 6 days ago
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGZEXkSX9wI&lc=UgwL9R7Jl42_EMMoEqZ4AaABAg>
the stars prove a flat earth, otherwise your stars have to assume a "flat
galaxy" and "flat solar system" which is totally retarded like a zillion
coincidences in a row... so coincidental like saying my computer built
itself. The southern star trail vids are shot with fish eye, highly edited
and even so, there is refraction and thus stars at different elevations are
effected by different amounts of refraction causing the southern curve
pattern... and of course there is holography and dome lens effects too.
Plus stars on the round earth system would have to be quintillions and even
sextillions of miles away which is stupid as they are completely stable in
the sky not refracting or being blocked in their journey.
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