Re: [EVGRAY] Tunning Stub Romex

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On 7/5/2019 4:00 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Hi Mick,
>
> I'm not sure I follow. If you mean one phased motors having a help or
> start winding this winding has a capacitor in series to make a phase
> shifted current. The big motors are three phased. For two speeds the
> pole pair number is changed. For reducing the start current the motor
> is started in star connection and switched to delta connection. I.e.
> the voltage is changed across the motor windings.
>
> The inductance of the motor windings is what makes the power reactive.
> At high load the power becomes more active. It's like a transformer
> without any load. This acts like an inductor which has lagging
> reactive power. The current lags the voltage. When loading the
> transformer its secondary induces an opposite directed magnetic field
> which cancels the magnetic field of the primary coil. This makes the
> power become resistive or active or real.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
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> Ole, I was referring to the old style motors that require a certain
> amount of active on the grid.  There are still a lot of those in
> factories with the tapped winding's for two speed operation like the
> old lathe motors.  My understanding, which may be incorrect as I never
> worked in distribution, is that AC induction motors require some
> reactive power to run properly notwithstanding the lagging PF they add
> themselves.
>
> On 7/5/2019 1:54 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>      
>>
>>     Hi Mick,
>>
>>     Traditionally factories having high inductive reactive power puts
>>     capacitor loads to force back the power factor closer to active
>>     power. I.e. power factor closer to one. Now many motors are
>>     controlled by frequency controllers. Such electronic devices must
>>     have power factor correction in them. If having low power factor
>>     at high power you are billed for that as it wastes energy in
>>     heating the wires. Modern smart energy meters do measure reactive
>>     power and even communicates with the power distribution companies
>>     to better be able to keep the grid stable. Many houses deliver
>>     power back to the grid by their free energy solar panels. In this
>>     country (DK) with lots of wind turbines the grid has proven
>>     itself stable even when running the whole country on only wind
>>     power during days with much wind. I think this is attributed to a
>>     smart grid with communication between the wind turbines. No more
>>     power must be made than is being consumed to prevent the
>>     frequency of the grid in changing. During 24 hours this account
>>     must fit.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
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>>     Ole, What are they doing to keep enough reactive power available
>>     on the industrial 3 phase source lines sinking to many AC
>>     induction motors?
>>
>>     On 7/5/2019 1:53 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY]
>>     wrote:
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>>>          
>>>
>>>         Hi Hector,
>>>
>>>         The power factor correction became necessary when
>>>         regulations required less pollution on the grid. The
>>>         original sine wave from the generators of the power plants
>>>         got more and more harmonics.
>>>         'FROM EDN EUROPE: Active power factor correction'
>>>         https://www.edn.com/electronics-news/4359296/FROM-EDN-EUROPE-Active-power-factor-correction.
>>>
>>>         'New power regulations bring power-factor correction to
>>>         lower-power supplies'
>>>         https://www.edn.com/electronics-news/4363595/New-power--regulations-bring-power-factor--correction-to--lower-power-supplies.
>>>
>>>         Now there are active power factor correction integrated
>>>         circuit controllers put in many power supplies. I guess they
>>>         will work for motors too.
>>>
>>>         Regards
>>>         Ole
>>>
>>>
>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <arkresearch@...>
>>>         <mailto:arkresearch@...> wrote :
>>>
>>>          Most of the people in the background had being getting
>>>         patents and many of the things they have are just result of
>>>         the RV R&D  from Inverter fridges  .6 amps to washing
>>>         machines and window air conditioners that had gone from
>>>         12amps and 10 amps to 5 and 3 amps .
>>>
>>>         well if they want better things that that PAY me because
>>>         this AMERICA is fucking capitalist and sucks democrat donkey
>>>         dicks on its way to a feudal communist hell were everyone
>>>         will be equally fucked  !
>>>
>>>         all i had given can be lost in 17 minutes along with what
>>>         you had received in the last 200 years !
>>>
>>>         ( not any longer my problem )   as told many here had looped
>>>         , that is neither my problem if you don't give a shit all i
>>>         know that upon pooping up this same people are the ones
>>>         buying them out to shut up or fucking their lives for good !
>>>
>>>         green energy movements are a farce , as well as all involved
>>>         in false interests controlling all
>>>
>>>         that is a fact !
>>>
>>>         (H)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>         <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>
>>>         Hector,
>>>
>>>         I don't need the RV I have other ways that are more
>>>         portable.  I was just pointing out why you don't get funding
>>>         when there are people in the background who have been
>>>         waiting to fund..  Free energy is a weird duck, some people
>>>         can do it for awhile then try as they might cannot replicate
>>>         their earlier efforts then often get caught faking it.  I
>>>         probably would have built an RV though for the learning but
>>>         realized that getting stuck on an advanced modality and
>>>         asking for help would be like milking a stone, and I don't
>>>         live where stones have milk.
>>>         You designed something got a bunch of people to follow you. 
>>>         Well at least you did a hell of a lot more than most, but in
>>>         the end denied your students advancement rather than the
>>>         inverse per your claim.  The "people don't read" argument
>>>         lacks merit. 
>>>
>>>         Have a nice 4th, don't blow anything up.
>>>
>>>         On 7/4/2019 8:44 AM, arkresearch@...
>>>         <mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>>                  
>>>>
>>>>                 believe it or not its all public its simply people
>>>>                 don't fucking read and after Brian prater went
>>>>                 public with his looped lawnmower engine and what
>>>>                 happened to him i don't force anyone to  show they
>>>>                 looped , if  i ask funding for R&D its for making
>>>>                 public other things that make all you have mere
>>>>                 kids toys , but in a country that prefers to fund a
>>>>                 fucking wall at the tune of $20 million in one week
>>>>                 instead of funding free energy R&D .
>>>>
>>>>                 I may say may it go to hell ! 
>>>>
>>>>                 dont ask me for more tips ! and  just fucking READ
>>>>                 ! getting stuck                      
>>>>
>>>>                 (H) 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 ---In [email protected]
>>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>                 <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>                 Hector, The reason you are not funded is because
>>>>                 you drop the ball on the RV and do not explain in
>>>>                 simple terms step by step how to add the parts to
>>>>                 the third phase to move it up to the killowatts.
>>>>                 these people put hard earned money and time into
>>>>                 the project and follow your teaching and you
>>>>                 dropped the fucking ball and then bitch no one
>>>>                 funds you,  Cut the victimology bullshit, step up
>>>>                 and give directions like original Rv how to go to
>>>>                 next level, if indeed it can go to a next level? 
>>>>                 it's July and no aliens at the door...  You leave
>>>>                 the earth and could have done something and like
>>>>                 the rest Gray, Sweet etc. will take it all to the
>>>>                 fucking grave, very sad indeed!  Dropping
>>>>                 breadcrumb clues does not count.  False Evidence
>>>>                 Appearing Real
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 ...
>>>
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