Re: [EVGRAY] ram pump

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Warren Keillor <[email protected]>

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Hi BartI was going through my spam file for the first time in ages.Wow! Half our group was here.My Samsung phone!Anyway, your power plant is interesting.The Tesla 3 phase alternators up at Big Shute in Georgian Bay may even be more Tesla's work.The castings say "George Westinghouse"as opposed to Westinghouse Electric, which may be earlier, much the same as Chicago World's Fair units of 1893.I believe they will be still up there at the mouth of the Trent Canal museum, at Big Shute.

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  On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 at 11:07 AM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

James
Once again I am out of touch!  looks like a worldly change your chasing!Tesla (at times) , had a never ending supply of finances and elements ,components as well as machining as every one wanted to be part of his next as well I am sure.
   Would be nice to look at hold an inspect some of his builds.Like the resonating device he had on the building destroying itself!Was it connected to its particulate in a way that we were not aware of?Or just sitting there resonating as some believe.
Are you against earth grounds in your quest?One of His first project is in my neighbor hood and I drive by it almost every day.Its a small water wheel station providing power for 200 +- houses.When the grid would go down , there was a strip of houses powered by this location thatstayed up and running. Mine was one.I believe it was his test project before the NF. I have not looked into it though.
http://www.technology.niagarac.on.ca/people/mcsele/interest/decew-falls-generating-station/
Bart
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: March 29, 2019 3:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EVGRAY] ram pump  
I'm looking at don smiths work and taking it a step or goal or gate at a time .right now its the source of voltage and frequency that's on the table .and trying to keep it simple  .a joule thief with out a core runs fast enough but its only about 50 volts out so I need to raise it .thinking a Cockcroft multiplying set up with diodes and caps might  work .but where I would like to be is that wire and coil part the second gate .he said that chose your frequency and wire according and devide another into one quarter length one for the first coil then for the final coils the twins that are wound clock and counter clock wise .I want to be to the point of inserting the L 1 into the L2  to see the turning with out the caps .that would put me 2/3 ed the way through the system with validation of success up!to that point . but I was thinking .any radio wave frequency from the source can ring it .just to see it work .but I'll not digress I'm trying to get the beginning going .with out a store bought hi voltage neon trans former .its funny you can get the volts but no frequency or frequency and no volts  what a pain in the as it is to get both to gether in one place .and stable .don showed us how to tune it by inserting part of the L1 into the L2 not needing caps to find resonance ...so wire is cheap as hell .... why not see it in action .its just a old way of tuning AM radios  but with power . and the less soild  state the less to burn up .the k.I.s.s principal.

On Friday, March 29, 2019, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


 

 James ,  you are trying to get some thing in the 40kHz range.  Its been like forever since I have played.I learned it all fast and am loosing it fast as its some thing that really needs repetitive time and efforts,as well changes daily ,best to keep notes on these I find. Now a day I am down to an old fluke multi-meter.With a scrap of wire copper for measuring amps. So I guess it would be size and time.Its really just any and all.   I never read Don Smith work so I do not know his principle.I remember scanning some thing on him faintly. On quick glance and poor memory but I remember
a large device .  It was a schedule when I was submerged in other projects.  
As far as lighting needs I am going  the easiest route with the best no maintenance percentile.
   I had designed an led t8 in the rough in 2001. Shown it to some Chinese guys in TO.Got a discount ! lol    I did The New Roads GM dealership in MarkHam it looked sharp at night.
https://www.google.com/maps/uv ?hl=en&pb=!1s0x882ace1c8a1459f 3:0xdc88c21e217b702d!2m22!2m2! 1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m16!1b1!2 m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1 !1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!2m2!1m1!1e6! 3m1!7e115!4shttps://lh5.google usercontent.com/p/AF1QipPQjeDn JrgYchXc1UtBmYV7prsnQ4Eto_ zfSXFz%3Dw260-h175-n-k-no! 5snew+roads+dealership+in+ Markham+-+Google+Search&imagek ey=!1e10!2sAF1QipPQjeDnJrgYchX c1UtBmYV7prsnQ4Eto_zfSXFz

If you grab a t8 and disassemble it you will see a cascading application. Can go from 220
to as low as you wish.
If I remember correctly at all they run 97 volt min @ .300 ma to trigger it....I do not remember the exact details any longer. Sorry

Bart:)


From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of bart woodard [email protected] [EVoing to go the GRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: March 28, 2019 9:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] ram pump  

What project are you working on James? Herbal teas are nice at the end of the day.


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From: "James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-03-28 9:30 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] ram pump 

 
I've found that the ferrite magnet rings  run the frequency down to much for my uses .I'm only looking for around 40khz  .haven't done anything yet .today I had to clean up and fix my meter and just tired from all the attempts this week with little to show for it ..but will do better .

On Thursday, March 28, 2019, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


 

Hi  James,  I have a perfect memory, just no retainer value! lol  It was also 2012-2013?  I was working with the guy on over-unity.com .Went to see him in South Carolina (another family trip) and helped he 
in developing some advanced at the time lighting. I got a deal on used super capsfrom Maxwell. So it was not really I only !
Problem was he has a case of clinical depression, communications were terrible.
He had over a million hits. He asked for me not to disclose his name.He also kept in touch daily with Lasersaber https://www.youtube.com/chann el/UCIKzUKkh7XtnSYPW0AJb-9w

But he was the guy I mentioned on other posts in the past about he and his uncle 
working on circuits for the rover.  This guy was amazing , he developed timers 
to power themselves by means of adding elements and popping them in the 
oven for specific time periods. Collecting any of all values and pumping them straightback in.  He liked the small ferrite magnet rings . Would wind one side maybe 
10 wraps with 18-20 gauge  and across from it 100 wraps  28-32 gauge.He threw in a pot , I think 10k maybe? and scoped it. I remember doing calculations on a 3200mafor time run expediencies.
Still have some in boxes some wheres and was going to dig them out.Honestly I left  my better lab top in Finland and will get it back at the end of May.Its got a lot of past projects on it. In  the mean time I will sift throughmy grocery bags of thumb drives. Now a day its easier to just order from China really.
As well eye sight has become a struggle. This is now old , so there may be betteravailable now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=xzNfXcN8HNY

|  | ant chip - YouTubechip the size of a piss ant runs 59 leds full bright. runs days to 0.15 vdc cutoff.amazing but near impossible to solder ..used smd to dip converter to use it.www.youtube.com |

So sorry not back to speed yet ,but working on it!Hope this helps any.
Bart:)










From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of James [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: March 28, 2019 4:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] ram pump  


What Joule thief. Cross that ? I've recently been looking at them .and the ones with the core material don't get past 7 kHz it seen but a air core done like a normal straight coil form ? Well I got one going at 300 kHz .so I'm going to shorten it some and match it to several other wires then wind it .shooting for over 40 kHz then by using a 3055 on it and running it up to six volts I might get the out put at over 50 volts maybe much more .then use it in a don Smith energy extractor .with it resonance with the other wires the Joule thief being 1/4 wave length of the next coil then back down to the 1/4 wave length on the last two .to pull 12 volts from it .if this works it will be mostly coils and a 3055 no caps except the super caps at the end of the line .don used to do a sliding tuining coil in to coil system .brain dead simple way to hit resonance from coil to coil with out caps !! But here's the idea that came to me don gave us a way to tune the first two coils by sliding ! Well what will happen if the last coil was another slider ? Could we hit resonance with all three ??.I'm going to run some small test to see effect .the way you know you got resonance between  the first and second coil is sparks though a spark gap .the third well maybe a light blub .don't know but with out resonance you got zip . 
On Mar 28, 2019 1:36 PM, "bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

 

YUP  !     BACK  to the country!!   lolI had once the perfect place.   Funny how some times it can be right in front of you. lolLike I said it reminds me of a joule thief.  I have been able to crank 1000 leds for 8 hrs on a    aa.Finical  ,so stable 100  with  multiple apps perhaps!   Really you could work this to any level!
The reading pile is piling up again!

From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of James [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: March 28, 2019 1:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] ram pump  
You know if you had several in one steam and pumped the water up hill like a hundred feet the trip back could generate a lot of power though several generators coming back down ...a couple of old boys made a water generator that was like bucket's on a chain ...looked like a escalator but it held the water all the way down to the ground they said it can be used by people with a small stream .

On Thursday, March 28, 2019, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


 

Thanks Bob                         Most likely my lack of computer skills, as I can not seem to get any vids to run...........Like your Murphys law precursor, seems rightfully applied. 
Looks like you have given this some respectful efforts!Ongoing accumulated head pressure deserves some mindful respect as well, thanks for the heads up!I will need to find a corner chair with a light! lolBart:)

From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: March 28, 2019 12:37 PM
To: EVGRAY YahooGroups
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] ram pump  
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 10:19 AM bart woodard [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

> I friend over the Christmas holidays has asked me to help him
> build a ram pump. I think this is another one of those amazing
> inventions.

Yes. Been around for hundreds of years.

They are also known as Thromp Pumps or Klack Pumps from the sound they make............
I wrote about them at the link below. Took a Check-Vale apart and put
it together backwards as the compression valve.
Reset was a 4" drain pipe as feed and some 1.5" fittings with a 1............5"
output pipe.

Bellocq, Toribio: Compression Wave Pump. Where we are applying the
concepts of Resonance and other electrical properties to plumbing.

https://web.archive.org/web/20 110813074433/http://www.unusua lresearch.com/Pump/bellocq.htm

Mr Bellocq's grandson sent me a video of it running:

https://web.archive.org/web/20 100308021211/http://www.archiv e.org/details/BobPaddockTonibi oBellocqCompressionWavePumpino peration

> Always wondered why more of them are not built
> to run generators.

Flood destroyed mine. Moved so never rebuilt.

I did learn a Health Respect for compressed water and air!
Almost lost the fingers of my right had,
and almost had my head caved in by a pump that broke look when tried
to bleed off some air in the pipe.

The Preface to Murphy's Law:

_We, the willing, Lead by the unknowing.
__Are doing the impossible for the ungrateful… We have done so much for so long…
___With so little… We are now qualified to do anything…
____With nothing… Forever!























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