Re: [EVGRAY] Re: ZOTL audio amplifier

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Hi Mick,

I don't know what class of amplifier this is. The push-pull version can be adjusted to zero DC current between the common ground and the push-pull output. The single sided version will need a bypass capacitor to the speaker which unfortunately will be a good conductor for the HF carrier wave. The carrier wave will have to be filtered away as in class-D amplifiers.

"Do you know of any off the shelf H bridges that would work for this circuit?  I don't think most bridges are transformer decoupled with the galvanic isolation of this design."
No. For galvanic isolation this is a common way of driving H-bridges or at least the high side transistors when at high voltage or high frequency.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Hi Ole,
    What class would you specify this amplifier?     How would you deal with the DC offset at the speaker load?   Do you know of any off the shelf H bridges that would work for this circuit?  I don't think most bridges are transformer decoupled with the galvanic isolation of this design.

 Thanks for the breakdown!

 On 3/7/2019 4:22 AM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Mick,
 
 The H-bridge formed by the transistors (20, 22, 24 and 26) are put in series with the voltage supply and the load. The input of the H-bridge is modulated by transformer 60 to generate the carrier wave. What is the normal AC output of the H-bridge is then loaded or modulated by the tube transformer 50. The tube transformer delivers voltage to the tube. When the tube loads the tube transformer there is an increase in the current through the H-Bridge and the load in series with the H-bridge. The result is modulation of the current through the voltage supply. The carrier frequency is then amplitude modulated.
 
 Figure 1 has symmetric output by using the circuit of figure 2 in push-pull mode where figure 2 is just the positive half of the circuit of figure 1.
 
 Regards
 Ole

 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <mkjekyll@...> mailto:mkjekyll@... wrote :
 
 Ole,
 
 Not sure if you are aware of these but the concept is really great.  I
 just ran across this yesterday so still don't grock the full bandwidth
 of the concept but it seems to have many things going for it as far as
 being able to run a vacuum tube to it's full potential as an amplifier
 and retaining all the transfer characteristics.
 
 It looks as if the output of the tube is converted to DC though so I
 don't get how the design does not incorporate the transfer function of
 the rectifier.
 
 It appears a tube is rectified and the DC control voltage is used to
 modulate a carrier of 250kHz across a switching supply in order to
 impedance match the output of the tube to a speaker allowing the
 inductor to be designed for  single frequency rather than the whole
 audio range.

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