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Moray, Of particular interest to you is the subject of Sprites above
Super-cell Thunderstorms, Positive charge and the connection to the
ionosphere. Since old Robert Golka did Project Lightning and the Cape
Canaveral, lightning study of space launch vulnerability, we learned
something about the small percentage of the Positive variety of
lightning. First, we have to go back to Physics 101, 9th grade Science
Class and understand charge. See
https://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/circuits/Lesson-1/Electric-Field-and-the-Movement-of-Charge
https://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/circuits/u9l1b.cfm
http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
Excerpt, Positive lightning has been identified as a major source for
the recently discovered sprites and elves. Sprites and elves are most
likely lightning discharges but occur from 18-60 miles (30-95km) in
altitude, well above the parent thunderstorm.
Some studies have found a correlation between tornado genesis and
positive lightning strikes spikes.
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jan/?n=local_research_positive_strike
http://radarmet.atmos.colostate.edu/steps/positive_cloud/
Recap:
*Negative Lightning:*
*
*90-95% of all strikes*
*
*300,000,000 Volts*
*
*30,000 AMPS*
*
*50,000° Hot*
*Positive Lightning:*
*
*5-10% of all strikes*
*
*1,000,000,000 volts*
*
*300,000 AMPS*
*
*50,000° Hot but lasts 10 times longer.*
On 2/24/2019 2:01 PM, Mbking42 wrote:
> Norm,
> You wrote: "Remember, if a charge moves it creates an electric field
> with attendant magnetic field. Physics 101."
> Small correction: A stationary charge exhibits an electric field. A
> moving charge exhibits a magnetic field in addition.
>
> Experiments with charged heavy particles (protons, nuclei, charged
> dust particles, etc.) in vortex motion might yield some surprising
> anti-gravity effects.
> It just might be that simple!
>
> -Moray
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
> To: EVGRAY <[email protected]>; Art Devine <[email protected]>;
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> Sent: Sun, Feb 24, 2019 7:34 am
> Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Anti-gravity effect, Ionization, virtual
> rotation in molecular structure??
>
> https://m.phys.org/news/2018-09-scientists-tuneable-quantum-state.html
> They are hot on the trail. Ole.
> https://m.phys.org/news/2018-08-marriage-topology-magnetism-weyl.html
> https://phys.org/news/2019-02-quantum-magnet-topological.html
> Ole, please see attached
> On 2/21/2019 7:32 PM, [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
> Hi Norman,
>
> It's hard time following up on all of your links if having to read all
> of them. I definitely don't have the time and must be very selective.
> Links without any good reason for reading them are discarded.
>
> "Take it for what it is worth, for I believe that the AG effect is due
> to gross ionization of an object. The rapidity of the ionization of an
> object causes a great amount of electron movement in the molecular
> structure and the attendant manifestation of electric fields ( Ole,
> Hooper Motional electric field?? ) and Magnetic flux. Remember, if a
> charge moves it creates an electric field with attendant magnetic
> field. Physics 101.
> I would appreciate some feed back on these subjects for I feel,
> sometimes that the class room is empty. Lol Norm PS: Moray,
> there may be some plasma reconnect phenomenon occurring here also."
>
> The motinal electric field in an ionized tornado could be great. The
> magnetic field will have to go through its axis of spin. Radially away
> from the funnel the magnetic field parts almost cancels. Only the part
> along the spin axis exists to any amount. The induction from
> difference in the motional field from the ions moving in different
> directions on the front side versus the back side of the tornado is
> what Hooper and Smith suspected was the cause of gravity. Of course
> they discussed the front and back of electrons orbiting the nucleus of
> atoms. But the principle would be the same for such macro scale I guess.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
> <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> https://extremeplanet.me/tag/heaviest-moved-by-tornado/
> *IVh. The Heaviest Object Ever Lifted by a Tornado*
> In June of 1990, an exceptionally violent tornado formed in the
> desert-land of southwest Texas. Near the end of the tornado's path, an
> oil production facility was destroyed (at left) and three oil tanks
> weighing 180,000lbs were moved three miles to the east. Two of the
> tanks were found 600ft up a hillside with a 40 degree incline. This is
> one of the most impresive instances of tornado damage ever recorded
> and perhaps the only instance of an object over 100,000lbs being moved
> a great distance.
> <https://extremeplanet.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/largest-ever-moved-tornado.png>
>
> In June of 1990, an exceptionally violent tornado formed in the
> desert-land of southwest Texas. Near the end of the tornado’s path in
> Bakersfield Valley, a production facility was destroyed (at left) and
> three oil tanks weighing 180,000lbs were moved three miles to the
> east. Two of the tanks were found 600ft up a hillside with a 40 degree
> incline. This is one of the most impressive instances of tornado
> damage ever recorded and perhaps the only documented instance of an
> object over 100,000 lbs being moved a long distance. (Images by Wayne
> Greene)
> A note here of which I have stated before: "Bernoulli and Newton's
> third Law" was not involved here.
> Over many years, I have been experimenting with the Negative Ion
> Generators which are so common for cleaning environmental air and the
> supposed good health effects. I have one running continuously in my
> home. Besides creating some ozone via the formation of the tri-atomic
> bond of oxygen you see the drop out of dust particles from the air due
> to the charge. Yep you have to dust frequently cause that is how the
> air cleaning principle works. That is how they are used in the old
> bars, dance halls etc. where there is heavy smoking. They were called
> Smoke Eaters.
> That aside lets discuss some interesting facts regarding negative
> ionization and the attendant effects. No one noticed back in the
> early 90s that ALL, I say again, ALL interesting discussion of the
> negative ionization effects were removed from the Internet feed on
> purpose. Good reason cause the paragraph at the beginning of this
> page where objects weighing over 100,000 lbs. were moved is a classic
> example of the anti-gravitic effects of ionization of molecular
> lattice in material. When I first got interested in the subject, you
> could go online and pull up numerous interesting articles on the
> subject. One of the most revealing articles was on the un-exploded
> ordinance recovery, robotic vehicles which had too frequent failures
> due to electronics on board over heating. Engineers knew about
> negative ionization cooling so they simply installed a HVDC power
> unit and maintained a gross negative charge on the vehicle and it
> remained cool in the scorching desert heat. Many interesting
> articles have been removed from the Internet on purpose.
> Now you ask, OK, smart ASS, how does it work"? Examine the
> Schauberger Implosion Vortex phenomenon to understand as in the case
> of a natural tornado, that there is an inflow of warm, moist air
> tangentially into a very strong low pressure region with extreme air
> velocities being achieved. The low pressure gradient causes the
> cooling and condensation of huge volumes of moisture from the air with
> off the scale electrostatic charge. PHASE CHANGE IS ELECTROSTATIC
> RE-ARRANGEMENT OF ELECTRONS IN THE ATOMIC LATTICE. You in effect have
> the worlds largest Van de Graff Generator. Reference the Armstrong
> Electrostatic Steam Generator. In the high velocity inflow air
> currents there are a huge number of eddy vortex actions occurring
> which leave material objects grossly ionized. Take it for what it is
> worth, for I believe that the AG effect is due to gross ionization of
> an object. The rapidity of the ionization of an object causes a great
> amount of electron movement in the molecular structure and the
> attendant manifestation of electric fields ( Ole, Hooper Motional
> electric field?? ) and Magnetic flux. Remember, if a charge moves it
> creates an electric field with attendant magnetic field. Physics 101.
> I would appreciate some feed back on these subjects for I feel,
> sometimes that the class room is empty. Lol Norm PS: Moray,
> there may be some plasma reconnect phenomenon occurring here also.
>
>