Re: [EVGRAY] Re: A new fraud? - (Chekurov levitation)

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Hi Warren,

I don't think using ultrasound will be powerful enough to lift people. Making a powerful motional electric field might be the way to do it. Ultrasound could perhaps be used to accelerate ions to create a powerful motional electric field. Perhaps it would be worth doing experiments to make such a field and using modern instrumentation to detect the field. The measurement instruments of today must be far better than what Hooper had back then. The measurements made by Hooper showed a very weak motional electric field. But still he couldn't screen the field as it had great penetration through any shield. It would be fun to see if the Dotto Ring or just heating and cooling a conductive bar would generate a powerful motional electric field.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Ole The gap between the concept of shielding from gravity and the reality of a safe practical experimental vehicle, is not so awesome as to be beyond our means.
 A high bred version, much like what I propose to do, regarding an electric auxiliary powered sailboat, could be done rather elegantly, with either a hydrogen, or helium filled lighter than air vehicle, using gravity, and anti- gravity as controls.
 One still has the safety of a buoyant platform to experiment, and learn, the little quirks, which must surely arise in practice, without crashing.

 With lighter than air vehicles, you either wish to rise, or drop, at your pleasure. This often involves blasting away with a noisy propane burner, or dropping water ballast, losing gas, or something once done, is expended.
 Flipping the solar electric, double pole, double throw, switch to the piezo electric panels, and it is up, or down, in vector.
 A thought
 Cheers Warren
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 On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 8:24 PM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
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   Hi Mick,

The rhythmodynamics theory is an aether theory meaning some kind of aether or fine matter is used for transferring forces. T.J.J. See (highly recommended by N. Tesla) and C.A. Bjérknes did experiments to simulate the forces of nature by using gases and liquids to transfer the forces. The forces were made by just using vibrations (sound) in those media. They could explain almost all force of nature except one if I remember correct. The modern form of this kind of theory is the rhythmodynamics theory.

Matter is made up of wave patterns according to rhythmodynamics. Waves travel at different speeds through different media. If reading Forrest Bishop's analysis of Ivor Catt's theory C of transmission lines the waves may actually be traveling at a finite speed like in A. Einstein's relativity theories. Then when at less speed the waves just zig zag through the medium. When the signal changes speed forces are exerted on the subject where the change takes place. T.J.J. See already showed this using sound waves and balloons filled with different kinds of gas. The modern experiments make samples levitate by using ultrasound transducers and phased waves suspending the samples.

To cancel gravity I don't think it's necessary to go to the very sub level of the rhythmodynamics theory. W.J. Hooper and W.B. Smith's theory of the motional electric field may be adequate for manipulating gravity. The rhythmodynamics theory describes the patterns making up the fields. The fields on macro-scale would be adequate to manipulate forces like it is done in electromagnetic theory. We just have to be aware of the different kind of fields that Hooper disassembles in his theory. Then electromagnetism is unified with gravitation where gravitation is just a side effect of electromagnetism. All matter is made up of electrons (or positrons) according to W.B. Smith and the rhythmodynamics theory. Moving those electrons change the phase of the waves between neighboring electrons. Different patterns or clusters make quarks, neutrons and protons by phase locking the waves. Consider the electrons as emitting waves when on the move. These waves interact with other electrons making up matter and shadows makes the particles 'attract' each other to assemble into matter. Manipulating the phase relationships can reverse the forces. Some of the ET conactees like Daniel Fry and W.B. Smith mentions the 'principle of inversion' where the forces of nature are inverted by manipulating the phase relationship of the waves. This can make time seem to go backwards or gravity work like levitation. I think it is Fry that mentions that gravity can be manipulated by only using electrons just like Hooper also suggests by using the motional electric field. The motional electric field is created by moving charges (electrons) and seems not to be shieldable just like gravity isn't either.

Reading wave theory also explains some of the effects. Think like as above so below (from the old Egyptian god Hermes) or think of fractals.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :


 Ole,
 In the Rhythmodynamics they claim to cancel gravity only requires phase difference between two frequencies.  Can you explain the theory more clearly?
 Thanks,
 Mick
 
 
 On 2/15/2019 9:34 AM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Hi Warren,
 
 The device is electromechanical. It has extremely high tension AC from a Tesla coil and high tension DC on top and bottom of the device as well as permanent magnets. Further there is an ultrasound transducer on top of the device. It can take two hours of adjustment to make it levitate. The rotating discs also need to be rippled. This is the kind of plate used inside deep freezers. A device with smooth surface discs was only able to lift enough to tumble over on its side. Smooth surface discs probably have too little resistance to the electrons and make the electrons redistribute without moving with the rotation of the discs. This prevents making a powerful motional electric field. Or perhaps the ultrasound decouples the electrons from the discs to be accelerated by the high tension fields. There are lots of potential for research.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@... wrote :
 
 
 That looks simple enough How did he make that?
 Just what is going on there?
 I'd like to try to replicate one as well.
 As far as construction goes, from the outside, I can make it, I think.
 It all looks mechanical, which I can understand well enough to duplicate it.
 Now, what is going on?
 Any iseas?
 Cheers Warren
 
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 On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 5:00 AM, Dave Muckerman laser.rod@... [EVGRAY]
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   This is earlier work that has the floating effect.
 Технологии НЛО раскрыты (смотреть всем!!!)
 
 
 
 
 Технологии НЛО раскрыты (смотреть всем!!!) 
 
 
 
 
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 On Friday, February 15, 2019, 3:53:44 AM CST, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote: 
 
 
 
 
   Hi laser.rod,
 
 Usually I don't have the time to check out links with no description or reason for checking out. Checking out frauds could also be totally waste of time except if learning to distinguish false from truth. But I happened to click on your link which is from Alexey Chekurkov's channel. Chekurov has his simple antigravity device that uses motional electric fields to achieve levitation. W.J. Hooper tried to achieve the same thing but totally solid state which gives a much weaker motional electric field. The Dotto ring also seems to produce this kind of field by moving the charge (current) with a temperature gradient along the copper conductor. The electrons in normal conductors in closed circuits move at very slow speeds which generates very weak motional fields. Devices like the Searl effect generator, Dotto ring, Alexey's device, Floyd Sweet's VTA etc. have much higher speeds of the electrons which makes the motional electric field much greater. The motional electric field can't be shielded and may be the same thing as gravity according to W.J. Hooper and W.B. Smith.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <laser.rod@...> mailto:laser.rod@... wrote :
 
 Men,
 check out this russian mans youtube channel, might be worth your time.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JeeaZlYonc&list=UUzZxKT3BzBZOVVy8_YzP6Yw&index=8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JeeaZlYonc&list=UUzZxKT3BzBZOVVy8_YzP6Yw&index=8

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