Re: Looking back into Mr. Peabody's Way Back Machine.
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Norman Wootan
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Dotto Ring and FirFly circuits are of great interest in this dialog.
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Message 4635 DATE/TIME: 01/29/94 23:39
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To : ALL
Subject: TOD
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Folks! Please make sure you take down the newest free energy
circuit...Lee Trippett wants it EVERYWHERE ASAP...so that everyone can
freely experiment with it....So take it down, upload it elsewhere, make
copies and pass to your friends and acquaintances.....and PLEASE share
your experiences with this circuit!!!.....thanks...>>> Jerry
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Message 4636 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 00:43
From : LANE EVANS -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Re: Upload of 1984-R.ZIP
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
first i tried X modem 1k (didn't see Zmodem) then tried Z,
but i don't think either worked!
email me if you have suggestions & I'll try it again
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Message 4642 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 02:14
From : BRYANT STAVELY -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) Arthur Ford's Biography
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Joel, my late (and, in most ways, great) teacher Russ Whitesell
sometimes spoke of Arthur Ford. Although I'm unaware of any books by
him, you may be interested in this abbreviated version of an encounter
between Whitesell and Ford:
When Ford was nearing the end of his life, he developed strong and
undeniable symptoms which alarmed him and led him to search for someone
whose knowledge transcended orthodox medicine. Hence, he came to
contact Russ, whose abilities were legendary amongst the "inner circle"
at the time. At Ford's behest, Russ flew to his side and agreed to
help him.
Ford, of course, was a mystic, and as such had the ability to
recognize another mystic. Whitesell was unequalled in my experience,
in the ability to read other individuals; sensing this, Ford pressed
Russ to tell him how long he had to live. Reluctantly, Russ indicated
that he had five days. In fact, five days after Russ' visit, Ford
passed away.
Russ later explained that, during Ford's forays outside his body, he
had left his body in such a state that its metabolism was thrown
completely out of kilter; as such, his nervous system literally wore
itself out over the years. Ford's "circuits" were spent in living the
life of a medium such as he did it.
Whitesell always spoke well of Arthur Ford but used that case to warn
people to know what they are doing whenever they pursue long-term
projects in an "out-of-body" condition.
Bryant
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Message 4644 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 02:29
From : MARK WILLIAMS
To : BRYANT STAVELY
Subject: (R) Hello. I'm new to this board.
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Yes, SRI International was known as the "Stanford Research Institute"
up until about 1969 or 1970 I think, when it severed it's ties because
of the uproar created at Stanford University due to some defense
contracts.
Mark
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Message 4647 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 05:10
From : CLARENCE SATTERLEE
To : BRYANT STAVELY
Subject: (R) SUBLIMINAL PROGRAMMING
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bryant, I sent some info today, but not everything intended is engraved
in stone. As for legal factors, it's a step by step procedure.
Starting this January, the union is a newly forming institution that
hasn't been attempted before.
Step one is N.T. people establish a union like that of a labor union.
Why? The larger the numbers the more power base to be reconded with.
The pro majority of the legal issues have already been established in
court cases. Now we intend to do it on a very large scale to avoid the
burden of multiple time consuming cases.
The constitution does not allow the government to establish N.T.people.
The constitution does not allow the government to prohibit N.T. people
from establishing themselves.
Regardless of the brand name type divided groups, the union will only
encompass a group or persons association with N.T. Deity and
fundamental standards.
Step two being a N.T. people taxpayers association. Why? It does not
mean N.T. people don't pay taxes. It will deal with wether government
uses those tax dollars to undermine or prohibit N.T. people federal or
civil rights.
Another most urgent union issue is to establish whoes children are
whoes. Do the N.T. people's children belong to God or the state?
The biggest threat right now is what government can do to N.T. people
if they don't organize, the second isue is dealing with ministers
abusing N.T. people. The union can swing to protect both ways.
One policy that is sure to be adapted is refundable contributions. The
union suggest that no one give contribute to any N.T. type group unless
they offer refundable contributions. Everyone so far has approved of
this policy.
.
I'm tired, must sleep Sir Bryant
Linda and Clarence
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Message 4648 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 10:44
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) TOD
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Folks! Just got a call regarding the TOD circuit. It was taken
over to an electronic engineer who has vast experience with power
measurements....he hooked the TOD circuit up to a scope and measured it
for about 30 minutes. During and after this, he is quite bewildered as
the circuit definitely is outputting more power than it is taking to
run it. It is not feeding itself, but seems to be generating overunity
just as specified in the TOD.ASC file written by Lee.
The MOSFET parameters were looked up to see if there were anything
unusual in them and the engineer said they had an internal diode (for
clamping, I think he said), the point being that this seems to snap or
prevent any kind of backflow of energy, thus lending a cumulative
buildup of energy from the spikes.....
So, get on it...I know it only came on last night, but get it OUT and
let's get crackin'.........>>> Jerry
..
...download TOD.ZIP, or TOD.ASC & TOD.GIF.....
...
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Message 4649 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 10:54
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : Jerry Decker (SYSOP)
Subject: Comment
Folder : Z, "Comments to the Sysop"
Jerry: I just talked to Ken Hawkins in San Antonio, He said that he
talked to Ken Shoulders,(Hal Putolfs assistant)who has sold his
levitating toy that we talked about at Denver last year. He wouldn't
say what he sold the idea for but said it was enough to buy a 5 acre
estate in California and he is in the process of moving out there. See
we too could make some dough with this research. I just hope that whom
ever bought the technology will bring it out in a product form for
public consumption. I called Bert so he could download the TOD.ZIP
file for his review and comments. I am anxious to hear Mr. mass
aggrate resonance's (JOEL) comments for he is very astute and
informative. Thanks Norm
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Message 4650 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 11:20
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : JIM SHAFFER
Subject: (R) Orgone Test
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Jim,
First (tenuous) test is just to see if there is "Orgone". The layering
seems reasonable, especially if the layers are of materials which have
sizes that coincide to differing wavelengths. Not sure exactly how to
layer, or with what type of material, so will try yto use
organic/inorganic materials and see what the differencxes are. The
pyramid is not a 60-60-60, btw, it is a 70-70-40, if anyone is
interested in duplicating the test so far. Wanted a hugher apothem to
allow heat to build up in the "chimney". That should be "higher", not
"hugher"...can't type, oh well. Thank you for the info.
Joel
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Message 4653 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 13:07
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm! You know, it is VERY SIMILAR to COILBAK! I note burt and Ken
out in San Antonio downloaded it...I am sending copies to ESJ, EXT SCI,
Tesla Society, Borderland, etc. etc, as well as many to personal
contacts, so it gets the widest distribution....this is THE current
building block....but I still want to see my own unit work....I
understand it is only dissipating energy across a resistor, and has not
been used to power a load such as a lamp or to try to recharge the
batteries...these will be the true tests...can it self-run?...What do
you think? I know Joel will have some insights on this also, eh,
Joel?....well, need to get that stuff packaged....so later...>>> Jerry
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Message 4655 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 15:52
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Jerry,
Insight at this point is very optimistic. First, to verify the current
measurements via which power is extrapolated, then to power a load.
This is a REALLY EXCITING circuit!
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Message 4657 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 17:05
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Tod Circuit
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Jerry, I just completed the TOD circuit and have it running but I don't
have a role of #12 solid copper wire 500' long. I'll get a new roll of
wire tomorrow. Also I need a range of capacitors to vary the timing of
the 555. In the schematics he specified from .1-.68 uf, so I'll get
these tomorrow. I pig-tailed out all leads so as to be able to change
caps etc. The Bourne precision pots worked great for I can nail exact
resistance values or change all 6 at will. The circuit is running at
present a little below unity but I only have a Tesla coil secondary at
present to use as a collector. The wire length is insufficient and I
need to change the pulse width and frequency, so a change of
capacitance is in order. Just wanted to let you guys know that I'm not
sitting on my thumbs. HA! HA! Norm
cc: Joel Mcclain
Bert Pool
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Message 4658 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 17:05
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN (CARBON COPY)
Subject: Tod Circuit
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to JERRY DECKER
and a CARBON COPY was sent to you.
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Jerry, I just completed the TOD circuit and have it running but I don't
have a role of #12 solid copper wire 500' long. I'll get a new roll of
wire tomorrow. Also I need a range of capacitors to vary the timing of
the 555. In the schematics he specified from .1-.68 uf, so I'll get
these tomorrow. I pig-tailed out all leads so as to be able to change
caps etc. The Bourne precision pots worked great for I can nail exact
resistance values or change all 6 at will. The circuit is running at
present a little below unity but I only have a Tesla coil secondary at
present to use as a collector. The wire length is insufficient and I
need to change the pulse width and frequency, so a change of
capacitance is in order. Just wanted to let you guys know that I'm not
sitting on my thumbs. HA! HA! Norm
cc: Joel Mcclain
Bert Pool
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Message 4659 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 17:05
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL (CARBON COPY)
Subject: Tod Circuit
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to JERRY DECKER
and a CARBON COPY was sent to you.
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Jerry, I just completed the TOD circuit and have it running but I don't
have a role of #12 solid copper wire 500' long. I'll get a new roll of
wire tomorrow. Also I need a range of capacitors to vary the timing of
the 555. In the schematics he specified from .1-.68 uf, so I'll get
these tomorrow. I pig-tailed out all leads so as to be able to change
caps etc. The Bourne precision pots worked great for I can nail exact
resistance values or change all 6 at will. The circuit is running at
present a little below unity but I only have a Tesla coil secondary at
present to use as a collector. The wire length is insufficient and I
need to change the pulse width and frequency, so a change of
capacitance is in order. Just wanted to let you guys know that I'm not
sitting on my thumbs. HA! HA! Norm
cc: Joel Mcclain
Bert Pool
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Message 4660 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 17:44
From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
To : TERRY BASTIAN
Subject: (R) efficient batteries
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Terry,
Richard Diggs is the man. My friend recalls that much.
However what town in Mississippi he doesn't recall. I suggest
looking up the address off some of his other patents and
dig him up and talk to him!
My friend did speak to him about it but nothing ever
came of it. He doesn't have the phone number and anyway
that was years ago.
Bob
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Message 4661 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 17:46
From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) 3.3 Mhz Battery Charger
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Joel,
Thank you the response.. I don't quite understand what you
mean by the power diminishing? You mean the success of the
visititation? (or whatever it's called)
Bob
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Message 4662 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 17:47
From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) Orgone box
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Joel,
I'll let my friend know to ground the pyramid, although
I don't think they've done that and haven't had any problems.
Bob
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Message 4663 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 17:51
From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) 3.3 Mhz Battery Charger
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Jerry,
I did call and talked to the stock department of J.C. Whitney,
and they were mystified as to why the 3.3 mhz batt charger wasn't
in the catalog, but he still had the stock number and I ordered
a solar powered charger that said it put a 3 to 4 mhz signal on
the battery, if I remember right. So it will be coming soon,
we'll see what this is all about. But I really wanted one that
I could use in my shop, you know, charge car batteries right now
not over a period of two months! Is the one you are familiar with
a wall powered model?
As to Psychomaneum, I believe the principle works, because
my own father in law saw my mother (deceased) in a reflection off
a livingroom window while watching TV.
As to whether it should cancel, well, she's dead, isn't she?
(bad joke).
As to liquid electricity, well, think about this, if matter
is nothing but compacted energy, it stands to reason that there
would be an easy way to release some of that energy. Free Energy.
you just have to buy the matter. (coal, dirt, copper wire, whatever)
Wouldn't it be a hoot if electricity is just that? rarefied matter?
And that can be condensed. By the way, the electrode used for
the center conductor of the "capacitor" was silver, like silver
leaves, suspended in the chamber. This is all I could get my
friend's failing memory to dredge up.
By the way, do you know of anyone who's ever done the
orgone cloud buster?
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Message 4665 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 17:58
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Joel! Yes, I agree and the man says it has some of the local double
E's upset...they just don't believe what they are seeing....this is the
same fellow with the 1500 foot coil who was told the measurement
technique was wrong....note his caveat about parasitic currents and
that the MOSFET had to be TOTALLY OFF...
But great things come from scaled up small "toy" models....doesn't this
look like you COILBAK except it uses the MOSFETs and some more advanced
circuitry???....>>> Jerry
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Message 4666 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 18:01
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Tod Circuit
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm! Great! Will be nice to see some verification on this,
especially the "improved" versions that actually can power something or
recharge it....in the original the duty cycle from the 555 was
something like 5:95...the 5 being the charge time (for the collector)
and the 95 being for the dissipator....kind of like poking holes in a
water hose that is under pressure....the more holes, the faster that
pressure can achieve unity with the locale....I believe he does mention
the relationship being something like 10 times faster on the
uptake...>>> Jerry
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Message 4667 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 18:05
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : BOB ALDRICH
Subject: (R) 3.3 Mhz Battery Charger
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bob! About the cloud buster, talk to Dean Hardy from the CONTACT1
file...tell him you know Decker and get him to talk about the cloud
buster, he has done a lot and knows many folks who have experimented in
this area. I have the plans for a cool buster but refuse to publicly
post them because of the ramifications from casual, uncoordinated
experiments....too much damage can ensue and people should not just
jerk the weather to suit their own whims....
I just got another J.C. Whitney catalog but haven't yet found the 3.3
mhz charger yet....>>> Jerry
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Message 4668 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 18:08
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : BOB ALDRICH
Subject: (R) Re: Upload of CANCRCUR.TXT
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bob! Yes, I have several documents regarding Cancell and Sopchak as
well as have talked to him on the phone....it bugs me that he is the
ONLY source for this and won't release or let others become involved in
any aspect of it...plus stories of people dying after taking the
stuff...I kind of think this might be because they waited til the last
stages of the disease and death was inevitable...so it is easy to blame
any last minute attempts as a "cause".
There have been several folks we know who have tried to get him to make
a video showing the preparation of the substance or to get him to
license its manufacture...but he won't budge....I can't understand this
attitude if its so damn good......again, ego and power, though as I
understand it, he charges nothing but will accept donations. Ah well,
until he steps to the next level, we all risk the chance of losing the
preparation process.....add one more to the hundreds of thousands of
amazing discoveries lost from backward attitudes...>>> Jerry
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Message 4671 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 22:08
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : BOB ALDRICH
Subject: (R) 3.3 Mhz Battery Charger
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Arthur Ford died from complications as a result of degenerative
alcoholism. He became alcohol addicted as a result of trying to break
a morphine addiction caused by treatment after an auto accident. His
doctor "juiced" him every night for two weeks, so as to get info from
him regarding patient treatment info. Ford's mother had to kidnap him
out of the hospital! Anyway, according to Ford, when the motives of
the medium are commercial, or anything other than a desire to help
people, the spirit world is less cooperative. That is the "power", not
of the medium, but of the medium's level of cooperation by those whom
he wished to contact. I don't think that Ford was ever "out of body",
just relaxed, and always felt great after a session. Anyway, tobacco,
booze, overweight, affect the ability to relax in a balanced way, but
the connection can be severed on the other end if the medium is "using"
it for personal gain. So said the late Arthur Ford.
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Message 4673 DATE/TIME: 01/30/94 23:36
From : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL -- RECEIVED --
To : MARK GRAALMAN
Subject: (R) TESLAC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Mark,
Could you give the address for the TCBA please, doesn't seem to be
listed on CONTACT1. Appreaciate any info you could supply, also
can you elaborate on Pandora or let me know if plans are available.
Thanks in advance,...................Steve Rosenthal
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Message 4674 DATE/TIME: 01/31/94 08:56
From : BERT POOL -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Tod Circuit
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Norm, I've breadboarded the 555 driver, and have set pulse width to 2
uSec and 3.0 khz. I've not done the MOSFETs yet. > Bert
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Message 4675 DATE/TIME: 01/31/94 09:23
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Joel! And that is the very circuit Bearden says avoids all the
spook effects of time distortion, dimensional shift, anti-gravity and
other such useless phenomena.................<g>.....>>> Jerry
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Message 4676 DATE/TIME: 01/31/94 09:35
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Jerry,
Indeed! Now, we have to get the number of power supplies down from two
to one, maybe just a set of cap's, and away we go!
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Message 4678 DATE/TIME: 01/31/94 11:57
From : JOHN DRAPER -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Message No. 4655
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Jerry, in reference to message 4655, what circuit are you all
talking about? I'm very interested. Could you provide me
some additional information?
Also, FYI, my next door neighbor (53 years old) was diagnosed
with a maglignant tumor on his brain stem around Thanksgiving.
Because of the tumor's loction, chemo-theraphy was not possible.
As a result, he was given a series of radiation treatments
for 3 weeks or so. I told his wife about Eiassac; she began
giving it to him about the 2nd week of December. He had become
partially paralyzed on his left side...left arm unusable...
left leg quite weak and had to use a walker or wheel chair
to get around. He is now walking without a cain (slight limp),
left arm still weak but gradually returning to use. She
originally bought it from Totem Products, but now buys the
ingredients from Penn Herb Co., and makes it her self.
He is taking 1/2 a cup, three times a day. By the way,
he is using the formula from the Eiassiac file.
..later..
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Message 4679 DATE/TIME: 01/31/94 21:36
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To : NORNAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) New Wildcat
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm! No, I have not gottent the parts yet....talked to Lee and he
says you MUST use the EXACT parts to get the EXACT RESPONSE....he built
three different circuits just to satisfy his double EEs and every one
worked exactly the same....he also says he DID power a grain of wheat
bulb with it...and that the larger the load, the lower the current gain
of the circuit....there is also a chart missing (a spreadsheet) that
shows battery drain that I need to get...>>> Jerry
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Message 4680 DATE/TIME: 01/31/94 23:00
From : DOUG MARETT -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: MUFON Net
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I understood from a previous call to this net some time ago that there
was a UFO bulletin board called MUFON. If you have heard of this, could
you please give me the number at your convenience as I believe it has
many many files on this subject. Thanks and I will call back in a
couple of days to see if you left a message for me. Your help is much
appreciated! Doug Marett
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Message 4681 DATE/TIME: 01/31/94 23:56
From : JIM SHAFFER -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Vendyl Jones
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Someone on Paranet saysû the London Observer on January 16th had a
story about Noah's Ark being discovered. ûûñ…They say that Turkey's
official archaô¨÷okïkeologûûical service was involved along with a
Westerner who's "the original for Indiana Jones". Are they talking
about Vendyl? I thought he discovered the Ark years ago, yet this
story was just a few weeks ago.
PS: Tonight I'm having line øÄnoise for the first time in months. You
got something going on down there? It's a normal night up here.
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Message 4682 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 00:06
From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: Neutral Spike
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm! your buzzer may in fact have two coils. If the core is a
single
solid steel part that is configured as a loop or if it and associated
buzzer flapper and case connect to form a loop or continuous circuit
then you have a shorted turn effect. This could give you a turns ratio
multiplication with the shorted turn acting as a primary from the
induced
voltage from the magnetic field collapse. It could be acting as an
autotransformer. Think about your variac transformer. Only one coil
right?
Of course having a good conductive, solid core like your buzzer has is
going to maximize eddy current effects also. For you to get a shock out
of the isolated case of the buzzer under this scenario, the 24v winding
would have to be acting as the secondary and then discharging into the
case at some breakdown voltage. I'm just offering this as a suggested
possible explanation, so don't think I'm trying to debunk your idea.
Thats the last thing I would want to do because so often times it
happens
that someone will have a novel idea that some supposed 'expert' will
dismiss after only a superficial examination of the phenomena and
without
a complete understanding of the situation. Where are you tapping the
buzzer to get your voltage readings, and referenced to what? Case to
ground? Have you determined the frequency of the high voltage? What does
the waveform look like, sinusoidal or impulsed?
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Message 4683 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 00:08
From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
To : MICHAEL LORREY
Subject: capacitor discharges
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi MICHAEL! This reminds me of the work of a guy I used to know named
Peter Lefferts. He was working on just such a system. He had this
mountain of pole pigs that he was hooking up to A large Tesla coil and
he was refering to it as an "impulse Tesla coil". The coil itself
was pretty large, about 5' diameter x 6' long secondary coil and a
primary made from 1/4" diameter copper pipe. I don't know if he ever
got
it working because he died before I could find out. (come to think of
it,
maybe he did get it working & thats what killed him, hmmm...) Anyway
Pete
was the 'quintessential' weird science kind of guy. He used to organize
an event here in the silicon valley called the "Tesla Un-convention".
You know this kind of a coil is essentially a gigantic automobile
ignition coil, and if you've ever been zapped by one of those then just
think about what one of these monster "lightning" machines will do to
you! You know, I did get zapped by a pretty big DC bolt once... I used
to work in a large film manufacturing plant and the coating machines
are
just like a Van de-Graff. I was walking by one of the take-up rolls and
all my hair stood up. (the discharge system was malfuntioning).
I made the mistake of extending my arm toward the roll of film to feel
the 'field' and POW! Got a bright blue six foot bolt into the fingers.
It went through my body, and out the sole of my foot into the concrete
floor. I don't know what fool it was who originated the false idea that
rubber soled shoes can protect you from this!
Well, talk to ya later, -Gerald O
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Message 4684 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 00:10
From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
To : MICHAEL LORREY
Subject: Electric Cars
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|ML> actually, electric automobiles are not that much more efficient
|ML> than gas autos, all you are doing is moving the actual combustion
|ML> to a central source. The level of pollutants are about 25% lower
|ML> than with gasoline
Well Mike I have one thing to say about that...BULLS@$%! I'm sorry,
nothing personal against you, but I'm just sick of hearing this line
as one of the first things people always say to argue against electric
cars. First lets get one thing straight: ELECTRIC CARS DO NOT POLLUTE!
Lets not confuse central electric utilities with cars, they are
distinct and separate issues. But since you did mention that pollution
could be 25% lower overall using whatever conventional powerplant fuel
you were referring to, lets talk about it from that viewpoint. Here in
California, with the type of power generation we have (almost entirely
natural gas or nuclear) the reduction in air pollution would be about
90%! But even if it were only your figure of 25% it would be worth it.
To use an analogy, if a person with a terminal illness goes to a
doctor,
and the doctor says "I can increase your lifetime by 25%", is that
person going to say "But doctor, thats no good because it won't make me
live to be 200!"? Put another way, most city governments would be
ecstatic if someone could deliver them just such a reduction in air
pollution. But then you did begrudgingly admit that there ARE other
non-polluting types of power generation. So, WHEN WE DO convert to a
totally non-polluting grid, how are you going to run your gasoline
powered cars from that? When we do come up with a free energy device
such as this board is dedicated to it will most likely produce an
electrical source of power. Sure, you can burn hydrogen produced
electrically in a piston engine but that will still produce enough
ozone that the tailpipe emissions will fail pollution laws soon to
be in effect (unless you burn it with the absence of all nitrogen).
Besides, an electric car can be made to be 80 to 90% efficient with its
conversion of electricity into motive power, vs. 30 to 40% at best with
a piston engine powered car. As a matter of FACT, free energy electric
vehicles already do exist! Ever heard of the SOLAR vehicles being
experimented with? Sure you have, and yes, I know that they aren't
ready for everybody yet, but then neither is a bicycle, and I get
around quite a bit on one of those. A solar EV would be SO nice to
do my 3 mile a day each way commute. I've been working on cars all my
life, and have built a few from the ground up. I've been researching
electric vehicles for about 4 years now and rather than building
another
gas guzzling sports car I'm going to build a KICKASS electric hotrod
just to show you folks. I even have the 400 watts of solar panels that
will go on the roof to provide for most of my daily commute.
Look Mike, I don't want you to think I'm ragging on you personally
and I hope you don't take this that way. I'm really just saying this
to ANYONE who would try to sabotage the EV movement based on such
arguments. I guess I'm also just PISSED OFF that parts for my saucer
are on back order till 2035 (HA!)
Talk to ya later, -Gerald
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Message 4686 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 01:41
From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) 3.3 Mhz Battery Charger
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Jerry,
It so happens that Jim here, my source of info for most of
these things, knows Hardy! I'll get him to ask him next time he
sees him. Jim built the orgone/pyramid I mentioned recently, and
that was designed by Hardy.
Was the 3.3 mhz batt. charger you saw in the catalog a solar
one? That's all that they stock guy knew about when I called, so
that is what I ordered.
On the Cancell, there is something out here called "Rod
Waters" which I never got into but was designed by a sharp cookie
possibly using radionics and purified distilled water. What he
does is molecularly impress on the water some sort of trace that
it has something in it that it doesn't actually have. Then you
can use it as if it had that product in it. His latest patented
use for this is a catalyst. Take water and (I believe) using
radionics, make the water "think" it has platinum in it. This is
then evaporated into the intake manifold of a car, and the car
runs more efficiently emissions go down dramatically, etc. It is
marketed as "the Force" but was originally called the "Clean Air
Pack".
In medical applications, you can make the water think it
has, say, vitamin C in it, and take if for a cold and it seems to
work even better than vitamin C! I haven't tried it myself, but
have heard this.
Bob
Later,
Bob
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Message 4687 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 01:42
From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) 3.3 Mhz Battery Charger
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Joel,
I'm not quite sure how we got on Arthur Ford, but what you say
sounds good to me! I have to agree that money is about the lowest
motivation there is.
Bob
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Message 4688 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 09:37
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: DOTO RING
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Jerry: Sam Faile up in Ohio sent me a complete package on the "Doto
Ring" and I thought it would make an excellent file for the Keely-Net
if you don't already have the info. Please let me know for if you are
real busy (geeeeeeee) I would type it up for you to put it on the net.
Also, look in your mail-box for I am going to leave you a care package
today. Bert came by last night on the way home, was only going to drop
off a hard copy of the TOD circuit, got hooked on my Tod circuit and we
spent 3 hours measuring everything on the scope. We are going to make
a few changes. The circuit looks real promissing at the moment. The
output into the load has a real strange wave form that will make a real
power determination very difficult. As Joel says, if it won't do work
then it ain't worth a shit. HA! HA! Norm
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Message 4689 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 09:54
From : BERT POOL
To : ALL
Subject: Painful lessons
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
For anyone out there building the TOD test device, a word of caution:
the power MOSFET's Q2 and Q3 can go ballistic if you pull one of the
MOSFET's back stream. They will instantly self-destruct due to current
saturation. I was going to "swap" Q1 and Q2. I pulled Q1 and reached
over to pull Q2. In the 2 seconds it took me to set down Q1 and grab
Q2, Q2 had reached an estimated temperature of +400 degrees F. and
blistered a couple of fingers. It then proceeded to vaporize and stink
up Norm's place. Absolutely, positively, remove ALL power before
working on these little guys or you won't be able to pick your nose for
a week! >> bert
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Message 4690 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 11:28
From : BERT POOL
To : ALL
Subject: New study proves psi
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I've just uploaded to Jerry a most interesting paper on a recent
extensive study on the existance of psi communication between human
test subjects. Psi really exists, but you read my mind on that
already, didn't you? > Bert
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Message 4692 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 13:23
From : JOHN DRAPER -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Neutral Spike
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Norm, from your descriptions, haven't you noticed the
similarities to the Hendershot device? I went back
to a schecmatic and write up of the Hendershot device,
and it shows a door bell buzzer in the circuit. I
am begining to beleive that the basket weave coils and
the special capacitors were used for resonance.
John D
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Message 4693 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 14:16
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : JOHN DRAPER
Subject: (R) Message No. 4655
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi John! That is the TOD.ZIP circuit...
Also, thanks for the feedback regarding your neighbor and his success
with the use of Essiac...another good report...seems like there are now
several that we have heard of and two cases I know of PERSONALLY here
in Dallas who have had almost complete remission.....(last time I
heard)....all signs have gone away and their doctors attribute it
always to "spontaneous remission"...only AFTER they start USING ESSIAC
of course.....>>> Jerry
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Message 4695 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 14:18
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : DOUG MARETT
Subject: (R) MUFON Net
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Doug! That used to be run by Steve Gantt of Houston, he changed it
to High Science (as listed at the logoff message here), offering
KeelyNet type files as well as the MUFON conference, but for some
reason he has shut down the entire system...you might try Clark
Matthews as he is a ParaNet node out in New Jersey...listed on logoff
as WRONG NUMBER....I don't keep up with the lights in the sky crowd
unless something technical pops up, which is about 1 in 10,000
cases....but give Clark a shout, he will know who you can call....>>>
Jerry
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Message 4696 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 14:21
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : JIM SHAFFER
Subject: (R) Vendyl Jones
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Jim! No, Vendyl has NEVER been formally associated with the Ark of
Noah, he is instead the ARK OF THE COVENANT and is working on a dig in
Israel called the "Cave of the Blue Column"..
David Fasold is the guy with the Ark of Noah that was discovered in
Turkey and the one that is being investigate by the Turkish
government....this is all very old stuff and it just takes forever to
seep into action once the actual work has been done....Dave spent
something like $200,000 of his own money doing this research and
despite his book "The Ark of Noah"....he has nothing to show for all
that work....because he is not a formal archaeologist, he is not
recognized for ANY of his work, though many people parrot him and
plagiarize his material.
He publishes a newsletter that you can get from him...he is listed in
CONTACT1 but last time I called, his line was not on??? I sent him a
detailed letter a couple of months ago and have not heard from him.
You know, I hear he was offered something on the order of $50,000 by the
National Geographic if he would sell his research to them so they could
claim it as their own discovery!! You should talk with Dave if you
ever get a chance, one of the cooler folks we have had the honor of
working with and meeting....nobody holds a candle to his knowledge of
ancient correlations, beyond of course Sitchin and Von Daniken....yes,
Childress is OK on the archeological sites, but Dave is great with the
ancient languages and correcting interpretations based on context from
the period.....anyway, the news is slow to pick up on the
realities...hehehehe....If you could get that article, I would like to
see it as would Dave, he collects this stuff and uses it or tears it to
pieces in his newsletter, they are great!!...>>> Jerry
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Message 4698 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 14:32
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : BOB ALDRICH
Subject: (R) 3.3 Mhz Battery Charger
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bob! No, I have not heard of this Rod Water thing, but it makes
sense in light of radionics....we seem to see several correlations with
impressing such a signature of water based on ratios of frequencies
rather than the frequencies THEMSELVES....these ratios are the basis of
what Searle is going on about in his new book set under the "magic
square" principle....it is quite a fascinating concept as it leads to a
much deeper understanding of chemistry with regard to elements being
composed of DISCRETE particles (just as Keely says) that in fact HAVE A
BONDING ANGLE, normally only associated with molecules (combinations of
atoms)....in this case the atom (of any element) is made up of ???
which "also" form BONDING ANGLES that offer entire new possibilities for
chemistry....it is still very early on this, but eventually we will
have it on paper....>>> Jerry
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Message 4699 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 14:37
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) DOTO RING
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm! Great, Lee is very interested in verification and
modifications to improve the load sustaining capabilities. I saw where
Bert had removed one of the MOSFETs and it overheated to the point of
burning up....very odd, and if the power was ON when he did this, he
won't ever work on my computers....hehehehe....
But he is right, if it won't sustain a load, it ain't worth s..t!
later...and thanks for the package, though I haven't been outside yet
today, but have to make some runs...>>> Jerry
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Message 4700 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 14:40
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: (R) Psi paper
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bert! Thanks for the paper, will review it this weekend....as to
PSI, I think there are NUMEROUS ways to enhance the effect in people as
well as general abilities such as psychokinesis...there are tons of
opportunities for the practical use of such abilities for income or
information gathering, but we won't go into that
"publicly"...hehehehe....thanks...>>> Jerry
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Message 4701 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 18:49
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
To : JOHN DRAPER
Subject: Neutral Spike
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
John: Yes the Hendershot device is involved in this process. I have a
complete report on the Hendershot and you are correct about the buzzer
theory. I suspect that Joe Neumans big coil works very similar to what
we are theorizing. Thanks for the feed-back, we are working on the TOD
Circuit at the moment and will get back to the Neutral Spike device as
soon as we can get some data to verify Lee's over-unity claims for his
circuit. If it can't be replicated by other researchers then it is
considered invalid. Thanks, Norm
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Message 4702 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 18:56
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Dotto Ring
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Jerry: Have you had a chance to read the Dotto Ring document yet. I
can't believe that you and I had a recent discussion about the possible
anomalous fields associated with the Peltier Junction cooling chips
that I brought to the Vangard meeting. COOL, MAN COOL Norm
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Message 4703 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 19:25
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Dotto Ring
Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega"
Hi Norm! Yes, I have had the Dotto documents for about 6 years
now...they were given to me from a friend who said they were top secret
and not to be shared....but about 3 years afterward they "seeped" out
and I no longer was restricted......It was surprising to see it in the
Nexus magazine last year but it's about time...>>> Jerry
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Message 4704 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 21:10
From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
To : LEE TRIPPETT
Subject: Switching Circuit
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Lee! I read your report and tried to do some analysis of your
circuit. I have some observations and some questions. First the
observations: You mentioned that the current flow reverses in loop Q3
when the device is operated with the 'wire' collector. This seems to
indicate that the node at Q2 source is going negative, and this is
exactly what would be expected when rapidly switching an inductive
load, which is what your long wire 'collector' represents. When the
current reverses through Q3 you will not be able to shut it off untill
the reverse voltage falls below the forward voltage of the internal
diode in Q3. I think its about 1.5-2 volts for this device. The
schematic indicates that V2 can be from 9-24volts. In order for the
fets to fully swith on the gate to source voltage must be 10 volts.
The threshold is 2 volts. So if V1 is 18 volts V2 must be below 16
volts for the device to even begin to turn on. Your circuit topology is
unusual for nchannel mosfets in that you are switching an inductive
load in the low side of the switch so it is difficult to analyse as the
VGS will change as the source voltage changes, hence the on state
resistance is unknown. When fully switched on these fets have a
resistance of about 0.6 ohms. Now for the Questions: How are you
measuring current in the circuits? Do the symbols mA1, mA2, etc.
indicate an in series ammeter of some kind? What does the voltage
waveform look like at the Q2 source / Q3 drain node look like? Is it
does it have a very high dvdt or is it relatively slow or non-transient?
What is the manufacturer of your 555 timer? The data sheet I looked at
is National Semi., and they spec output switching time at 100 ns. You
mentioned a 20 ns switching time.
Thanks for taking the time to do this design to verify the Bearden
theory and I hope you don't mind my questions.
-Gerald O'
cc: Jerry Decker
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Message 4706 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 23:11
From : DOUG MARETT -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) MUFON Net
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Jerry - Thanks for the reply on MUFON, will try Clark!
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Message 4707 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 23:35
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : BOB ALDRICH
Subject: (R) 3.3 Mhz Battery Charger
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bob,
Well, all of us need a certain amount of money periodically, including
the psychics and mediums, but as with everything, there should be a
balance. Ford didn't help people for nothing, but he wasn't greedy,
which is always a subjective decision in every circumstance. Anyway,
his autobiography is an enjoyable read...but also should be taken in
perspective for "balance". Thanks!
Joel
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Message 4708 DATE/TIME: 02/01/94 23:41
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
To : ALL
Subject: Phi
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
One of the (to me) amazing aspects of the pyramids is the manner in
which the Egyptians created Phi to replace PI in their equations, and
thus could square and circle or cube any cylinder...problems made near
impossible with the indeterminite imaginary number PI. They called Phi
the "Golden Section", and it was later used by Michelangelo and others.
Anyway, I'm thinking about putting together a file which describes Phi,
how to derive and use it, but wanted to check first and see if anyone
is interested. If so, give me a holler and I'll get it together!
Joel
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Message 4711 DATE/TIME: 02/02/94 05:25
From : MARK GRAALMAN -- RECEIVED --
To : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL
Subject: TCBA and Pandora
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Steve, the TCBA address is: 3 Amy Lane, Queensbury NY 12804
and the number is 518-792-1003
Also, the construction details for pandora would be hard to convey
here, but the format I used to design pandora is contained in a
design program called TESLAC and was uploaded to this BBS, but I
don't know if it is listed yet, might want to check with the sysop
an article on Pandora can be found in the TCBA newsletter, VOL #4
VOL. 12 #4 and includes pictures. Also it can be seen on
The TCBOR video report # 30.
This is long distance for me so I don't check in that often, but if
you want any more info on this coil or the program TESLAC, I can
be reached at 5004 South ave. Toledo,Oh. 43615-6429
or E-mail on compuserve address # 71612,1234
Thanks for your interest,
Mark Graalman TCBA # 1399
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Message 4712 DATE/TIME: 02/02/94 05:53
From : MARK GRAALMAN -- RECEIVED --
To : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL
Subject: TESLAC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
HI again Steve, I didn't know it at the time I wrote you the last
letter, but TESLAC is online under Shareware.
See ya, Mark
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Message 4713 DATE/TIME: 02/02/94 08:45
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : ALL
Subject: Important Theory Announcement
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Did anyone on the net hear any announcement yesterday 1 Feb. 94?????
That was the majic date that was published in the New Energy News.
This press conference was to be held to make an announcement which was
suooosed to be the most important in the history of science. ????????
NORM
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Message 4714 DATE/TIME: 02/02/94 08:49
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Video Tape
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Jerry: What is the status of the Crystal Video Tape? I get a lot of
questions as to when we will be able to buy a copy. I know you are
very busy but this tape is DYNAMITE and I can sympathize with those who
are anxious to get a copy. Norm
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Message 4715 DATE/TIME: 02/02/94 08:57
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : ALL
Subject: Tod Circuit
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
OK, all you guys out there who are working on the TOD circuit, be
careful while you are taking current measurements for last night, while
Ruben was here we were testing the circuit and it took out both of my
meters in the milliamp range. This happened while I was adjusting the
pulse width resistance. I hope it is just a fuse problem. These are
not trash meters. One is a Fluke 87 true RMS, $325 job and the other
is a Wavetech. Well I'll get them back on line but just wanted to let
everyone know that measureing micro-amp and milli-amp curent levels has
it's perils for any spike or sudden up surge puts everything over-range
and only little tiny fuses protect the meter. It is a pain in the but
to open them up and change fuses. Norm
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Message 4716 DATE/TIME: 02/02/94 09:54
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Important Theory Announcement
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Well Norm, I haven't seen any big announcements - especially the
BIGGEST in history! >> Bert
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Message 4717 DATE/TIME: 02/02/94 15:07
From : ARIE VANDENBERG -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: BOARD
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
This is my first time on Keelynet. I love it! I'm starting a board
called the Silver Strangers, and would very much like to be a partÃ
ºww{þ of your board (an affiliate). I'll be talking to you soon.
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Message 4718 DATE/TIME: 02/02/94 16:27
From : LEE TRIPPETT -- RECEIVED --
To : GERALD O'DOCHARTY
Subject: Switch Cir Reply
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
cc: Jerry Decker
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Message 4721 DATE/TIME: 02/02/94 18:49
From : WOODY MOFFITT
To : ALL
Subject: elipton
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
You heard it here first....Zhironovsky, the bad boy of the "new" Russia,
gave a speech in Belgrade on Monday, and exchanged hugs with one of
Serbia's best known "ethnic cleansers", a fellow with the handle
"Arkan". The news is (quote from Houston Post, 2/94..) "Zhironovsky
told reporters a new Russian weapon may be tested Wednesday in Brcko,
near the front line of fighting between Bosnian Serbs and Muslims.
"I may give permission to use a new secret Russian weapon", he
announced, to applause. Zhironovsky said all the world's intelligence
agencies were welcome to come and watch." The device he has mentioned
previously was the elipton, which may well be the sort of device that
Bearden has been making noise about. The former KGB has actually come
out and admitted, even displayed (in public) some small psychotronic
devices. The elipton may be a sort of e.m. pulse weapon, so named
because of its use of ellipsoid "lens" transmission to transmit WITHOUT
ATTENUATION a high energy e.m.p. - this sort of device is described in
papers based on work at Livermore Labs (non-classified). an ellipsoidal
lens is used with microwave frquencies to create soliton waves, though
the same paper also describes the use of arrays to achieve the same
goals.
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Message 4724 DATE/TIME: 02/03/94 00:14
From : LEE TRIPPETT -- RECEIVED --
To : GERALD O'DOCHARTY
Subject: Reply to Switch Cir Ques
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Sorry for the 3 empty files earlier today.
I am new at this part of the BBS
The file was uploaded as a text file this evening under the
name of LT_to_GO. I do not know where it is in the file system.
Call if there is a question 503-826-5175
Bye for now.
cc: Jerry Decker
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Message 4729 DATE/TIME: 02/03/94 18:47
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : ALL
Subject: Important Theoetical Announcement
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I just talked to Hal Fox, Editor of New Energy Newsand Fusion Facts and
he related to me the information that is coming out tomorrow in the
science magazine, Physical Review A, Feb. issue. 20 page article
titled, "INERTIA AS A ZERO POINT FIELD LORENTZ FORCE", outlines the
possibility of ANTIGRAVITY, LEVITATION and INERTIALESS DRIVES. With
these theorys accepted by the science community then if we see a flying
saucer do a 90 degree turn while doing 5000 MPH then it is because it
is inertialess. The paper is co-edited both by Hal Puthoff and Haisch
Reuda. Phisical Review will be on the street tomorrow. New Energy
News will have the entire document in the next issue which is going in
the mail this weekend. So htere you have the info before the science
world gets it. Norm
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Message 4731 DATE/TIME: 02/04/94 00:04
From : BILL BEATY
To : ALL
Subject: internet source
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I recently found the best book on the Internet I've seen so far.
It's THE INTERNET PASSPORT from NorthWestNet. Check out your local
library, they probably have it. Or, buy your own for $39.95 + $5.00
shipping from:
.
NorthWestNet: Internet Passport
15400 SE 30th Place, Suite 202
Bellevue, WA 98007
.
[email protected]
phone 206-562-3000
fax 206-562-4822
.
This thing is the internet's INSTRUCTION MANUAL. I have it out
overdue from the lib., when I return it I'm going to have to
shell out the $40.
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Message 4733 DATE/TIME: 02/04/94 09:02
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : Jerry Decker (SYSOP)
Subject: Comment
Folder : Z, "Comments to the Sysop"
Jerry: After talking to Hal Fox yesterday, I am sorry to have to report
that the "hatchet" has not been burried between ITS and IANS (Toby vs
Elswick). Hal said that Steve Elswick tried to get John Searl and John
Thomas to enter into an agreeement that they would not appear at any
other Lecture for a period of 2 years if they were to Lecture at the
ITS in July. Hal said that he hoped that Searle and Thomas would make
the planned IANS Conference in May. I wish this dispute and jealously
could be once and for alltimes be resolved. Norm
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Message 4734 DATE/TIME: 02/04/94 14:12
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: TOD
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Norm, the IRF240's CAN be used, but you really have to drop the value
of the resistor in the gate circuit, as well as drop the value of the
drain resistors. Since the 240's are really power monsters, you have
to punch them pretty hard to get them to respond fast. I've gotten
them to the point that the rise time is less than 1 uSEC, and the
inverted wave form looks very good. I'm working with the IRF111 as Q1
and I've optimized values for it as well. Call me and we'll set up a
time for Saturday. >> Bert
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Message 4735 DATE/TIME: 02/04/94 23:29
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : BILL BEATY
Subject: (R) internet source
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bill,
Saw a blurb on the news today about INTERNET. Apparently, some hackers
have stolen passwords, and all members are being encouraged to change
theirs. Thought you'd like to know.
Joel
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Message 4736 DATE/TIME: 02/04/94 23:42
From : LEE JONES -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Greetz,
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Yup, I figgure we got to do first things first and since most of us
(USA) are in clod climates..Heat! Burn Water..sounds simple enough.
IF we can do it..the spin offs from the heat generated are multiple..
Would you move up here if the terms were satisfactory..?
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Message 4737 DATE/TIME: 02/05/94 01:05
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : Jerry Decker (SYSOP)
Subject: Comment
Folder : Z, "Comments to the Sysop"
Jerry: You must have been out of town for the last few days for we have
not heard a word from you. Norm
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Message 4740 DATE/TIME: 02/05/94 09:29
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Video Tape
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm! I have not done a thing with it...have some projects at work
that are taking up more time and stretching out to home in one case..
I will find out this next week and get some made up for the next
meeting.....we just had a visit from corporate and were told no more
WalMart stuff could be used outside the lab....so this next meeting
will be the last time I can use the video projector, so guess we will
have to do both parts or maybe just the last, I think I will try to
keep it for two more meetings so the whole thing can be shown but I
risk getting into trouble for not complying with corporate
decisions....and that ain't good for me....only 10 more years and I can
be totally free....>>> Jerry
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Message 4752 DATE/TIME: 02/05/94 10:09
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm! Well, that really is kind of the way conferences go,
especially between the special interest groups like these....from a
business perspective I think they are correct, but from a consumer
perspective, I think it is wrong.....why should you go to IANS and see
Searle when you can go to Tesla and see him...the thing here is that
Cathie would probably really get on well with Searle and no telling
what they might come up with from such a meeting and possible
collaboration...
Some fellow said he had seen a working tabletop magnet track that just
ran forever and that was described by Searle in his book....I can't
remember who it was, anyway the unit was disassembled for proprietary
fears....would love to see one live or on a videotape....maybe Searle
has some footage....should be some way to chain this to a mechanical
output, preferably rotary....later...>>> Jerry
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Message 4753 DATE/TIME: 02/05/94 10:13
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : LEE JONES
Subject: (R) Greetz,
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Lee! Geez, thanks for the invite, but I like Texas too much to want
to move anywhere else...and there are so many interesting people
scattered all over the place...I kind of like the "sabbatical" concept
where you go somewhere and work with folks for a month of two, then
come home...this way, you get the hottest stuff without thrashing it
out to the point of tedium.....that is kind of the way I envision the
VSRC should folks wish not to be full time LOCAL, rather full time
REMOTE....hehehehe...anyway, got a swell letter from fellow who was
heavy into the Stelle community and David Hatcher Childress and he
warns of the many who will screw up even the grandest plans...mostly
for money...but for myself, I go by gut reaction to people...so far,
only once in my life have I made a mistake and that was an "imprecise
read"....but researchers should not HAVE to handle money..that is what
screwed up Tesla and Keely and thos kinds of guys....
They should have HIRED accountants like Edison did and just stick with
what they are good at, and receive a paycheck like everyone else,
proportionate to their needs and abilities....later...>>> Jerry
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Message 4754 DATE/TIME: 02/05/94 10:18
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm! No, just been so tired from work and affiliated hassles I
have not chosen to come online. One of the beauties of E-mail, it
waits til you are "there"....>>> Jerry
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Message 4756 DATE/TIME: 02/05/94 11:04
From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED --
To : GERALD O'DOCHARTY
Subject: (R) Switching Circuit
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
|
| If you need to have really fast pules to test this
| TOD thing (I haven't read the thing yet)...
|
| Watch out for the Miller Effect in the TOD FETs..
|
| Appendix D of AN13-30 by Linear Technology has a
| test circuit that will generate < 1 ns (Typ 300ps) pules.
|
| You need a hand selected LM301A, a LT317AH and a
| Germanium Power Devices (Andover,MA) Tunnel Diode (TD-263B).
|
| "Measure Equipment Response":
|
| "The 10ns response time of the LT1016 and the
| circuitry it is used in will challenge the best test
| equipment. Many of the measurements made utilize equipment
| near the limit of its capabilities. It is a good idea to
| verify parameters such as probe and scope rise time and
| differences in delays between probes and even oscilloscope
| channels. To do this, a source of very fast, clean pules is
| necessary. The circuit show in Figure D1 uses a tunnel
| diode to generate a pulse with a rise time well under 1ns."
|
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Message 4757 DATE/TIME: 02/05/94 11:05
From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED --
To : JOHN DRAPER
Subject: (R) Neutral Spike
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
| JAD> I am begining to beleive that the basket weave coils and
| JAD> the special capacitors were used for resonance.
|
| The info I have says it was resonant at 14.7 KHz.
|
| (1960 * 7.5Hz) I thing I would try Schumann (Sp?) around 7.83Hz...
|
|
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Message 4759 DATE/TIME: 02/05/94 11:27
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : BOB PADDOCK
Subject: (R) Neutral Spike
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bob,
Thought you might be interested in knowing about some info from the
Hardy's book...seems that the Egyptian priests had caduceus coils built
into their ceremonial staffs, with seven intersecting windings, same as
the symbol for the A.M.A. Above the coil was a resonant chamber to
induce vibration into the coil. There's more, so if you're interested,
you can get the book from the Hardy's in the CONTACT1 file.
Joel
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Message 4761 DATE/TIME: 02/05/94 18:20
From : WESLEY PRICE
To : ALL
Subject: algae
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
for those of you who have expressed an interest in getting well I have
uploaded the file Alg.zip .. which contains some info on the health
benefits of Algae.. read between the lines it is probably the best
food supplement on the planet at this time.. excuse the advertising
promo .. I have to eat too..for more info call AlterNet BBS 508-827-5724
leave a message for Wesley.
s
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Message 4762 DATE/TIME: 02/05/94 21:29
From : MARK GRAALMAN -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: general tesla stuff
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bert if you use TESLAC and have any questions please let me know, the
program doesn't have "bells and whisles" but if you build the coil the
way the program states, it will work on the first plug-in...it is
that accurate. Also, How did you manage to blow up all your caps?
I use 60 mil and beat them to death but never killed one!
Mark
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Message 4764 DATE/TIME: 02/06/94 08:19
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: TOD Circuit
Folder : Z, "Comments to the Sysop"
Jerry: Bert and I have spent a lot of time on this Tod circuit, in fact
we worked on it at Bert's place from 1.00PM Sat. till 10:00 PM and came
to a conclusion as to what is going on in the circuit. Bert is
printing out all the graph plots that we did of many different circuit
configurations, Collectors,loads and voltages VS freq's etc. Very
interesting, some configurations give gain ratios up to 100:1, others
give 50:1 and others give 25:1 output. However, remember what JOEL
said, "If you can't hook a plow to it and plant beans then it ain't
worth a sh--. Well the out put pulses or of such a nature that they
fake the MA or Micro-amp meter into believing that real power exist
when this thing cant even light a tennie-tiny LED. The secret is in
the wave form. When I flew for the military we had a Cessna A-37 twin
engine jet that we called a 6000 # dog whistle for it converted good
jet fuel into a high pitch noise. Well this circuit converts a decent
shaped current pulse into a funny shaped wave form that can't do any
work what-so-ever. We are going to write the whole thing up for you
with our graphs etc, to give Lee some feed back. Sorry, NO CIGAR this
time. I guess you should keep this to you self till bert and I get the
final report assembled. Thanks: Norm
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Message 4765 DATE/TIME: 02/06/94 10:14
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) Hardy's Book
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Joel! Well, when she says channelling, she is mostly referrring to
their pyramid that was used as a COMMUNICATION tool. It is specified
in their book regarding her son John, who had problems with interfacing
with the normal world. The pyramid somehow allowed him to pull in
information not generally known and when she, Dean and others used the
pyramid, they had experiences also. Mary and Dean think they and some
of their friends are the current incarnations of entities who studied
and taught at Saquarra in Egypt where the principles of sound were
taught. In the book, you see mention of this fellow Kenneth Killick?
Well, he is one of those very unusual people who seem to acquire
information beyond the norm. Mary says he can sense energy, such as
orgone, EM, ELF, etc...and thus figure ways to redirect, enhance or
cancel it. From his work with their group, they found that a pyramid
worked in conjunction with an obelisk as a tuned circuit.
That is, if you think of resonance, it can be achieved by any of
several combinations....RC, RL, LC, RLC....so the pyramid functioned as
one of these components and the obelisk as the other, to form a "loop"
of resonance that could be used to alter weather patterns by
redirecting the orgone flows. They have spent much time with members
of their group "installing" these pyramid/obelisk tuned loops across
the country in their efforts to restore the weather flows as much as
possible to pre-Russian influences. I wish they would document each of
the fixed locations and the date of installation. This way, a
comparative weather chart over the years before, during and after would
show if their were indeed any verifiable changes.
Anyway, Mary did not used to be quite so quick to claim the
channelling thing, but it is now more common and so she does not have
the reservations she once had about admitting it.
Dean, Mary and several of their group have spent some time on several
trips to Egypt and have some photos that are quite intriguing, such as
the spiralling smoky patterns the Queens chamber of the the great
pyramid. There ideas offer an entirely new approach to some of these
age old mysteries, especially with the spin, SCWs, pyramid/obelisk
resonances and other concepts that could probably be proved or
disproved with time and diligence. >>> Jerry
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Message 4767 DATE/TIME: 02/06/94 10:35
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) TOD Circuit
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm! I suspected as much because of a test question one of our
teachers gave us in electronics school....he asked how you could get a
very large current from a stepup transformer with a ratio of 1:10...we
all pondered it and could not figure it out....the teacher explained
that the WAVEFORM WAS EVERYTHING....in a square wave, the fall time
TOTALLY decided the amplitude (current) of the output....the more
rapid, the steeper the fall from max to ref, the more APPARENT POWER
the circuit put out....we were all amazed at the demonstration and
vowed to not forget this...
Good work, but I think Lee might be a bit disappointed...strange that
the two double EE's he showed the circuit to would not detect this?
and it was up to two gonzo Texans (Wootan/Pool) to find
it?....hehehe....>>> Jerry
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Message 4768 DATE/TIME: 02/06/94 10:50
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: TOD Circuit
Folder : Z, "Comments to the Sysop"
Jerry: I am sort of like you, yes I get burned out sometimes and want
to just go to my farm up in Arkansas and get lost. HA! HA! Well I want
to get back to my Neutral Spike test, It may turn out to be another TOD
but I suspect more is there to find since the Spike energy is so great.
Jerry, have you ever heard the mechanical noise that a run of conduit
makes when you have a large motor hard start????????? I know that you
probably have heard this phenomenon in your plant but may not have paid
much attention to it. Most people don't know what is going on or even
cares. I have heard conduit rattle as if the wires are expanding and
contracting very rapidly inside the conduit or the conduit itself is
expanding and contracting or better yet the magnetic flux from the
intense spike energy is magnatizing the conduit. I know for a fact
that if you run a bundle of hot circuits through a conduit without
atleast one neutral in the bundle that the whole bundle will burn up
because of the induction heating of the conduit. I am going to persue
this Neutral Spike Theory to a conclusion which my wind up on the
scrap heap along with all the other OVER-UNITY failures. Where is
atleast one piece of evidence that the HOLY-GRAILE even exist???????
Norm
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Message 4772 DATE/TIME: 02/06/94 14:40
From : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL
To : ALL
Subject: Area 51
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Anybody know anything about area 51 north of Las Vegas?
There is an ad in our local paper "See UFOs with your own eyes"
May 21/22 1994, with a phone # 209-275-2341, I called it and
this fellow here is organizing a caravan to leave andd go over there
in May, hike to a place called "freedom ridgge" over Groom Lake,
to spend the night to hopefully observe UFOs. Think I'll probably
go just for the heck of it anyhow.......FYI......
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Message 4774 DATE/TIME: 02/06/94 21:12
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Hardy's Book
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Jerry,
Another interesting thing from the book is that the Washington Monument
is a classic Egyptian obelisk, right down to the reflecting pool, and
that the Penyagon is sigbificant because it contains all of the
mathematical proportions of a pyramid. Add the domed bulidings, and
you have created an energy center, conplete with ley line intersecting
focal points. Even our Native Americans used this same technology with
their Medicine Wheels, and Kenneth builds then for farmers in his area.
So much more, a very worthy read!
Joel
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Message 4775 DATE/TIME: 02/06/94 21:18
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL
Subject: (R) Area 51
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Steve,
Before you plunk down your hard earned bucks, find out if Freedom Ridge
is still open...uncle is in the process of "acquiring" the better
viewing points. Also, careful with your camera. After our Channel 8
people went there, uncle stuck signs all over there, forbidding
photography. Besides, Florida is much nicer this time of year, and
there's just as much (or little) to see, but at least there's a beach
to play in while you watch. If you're really determined, try Mt.
Shasta in California, or take a ride into New Mexico. Or, just look up.
Joel
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Message 4777 DATE/TIME: 02/07/94 03:09
From : DAVID BOOK
To : ALL
Subject: Stan Meyer
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
The following is from the August 1992 issue of FULCRUM. The author is
the newsletter's author Charles Hatstat,Jr. FULCRUM is published by The
University of Science and Philosophy, Swannanoa, P>O> Box 520,
Waynesboro, Virginia, 22980. The pronoun I in the article refers to Mr.
Hatstat:
APPLICATIONS
In October 1991 Stan Meyer arrived at the Swannanoa Palace door. Stan
told us "Someone up here must have bee praying mighty hard" to have the
"Holy Spirit" direct him out of his laboratory in Grove City, Ohio to
visit the U. of S. and P. Stan then proceeded to relate an inspiring
and I'll add divine tale of his revelation from God concerning the
production of hydrogen for energy usage. . Seeking to break America
free of her dependence on foreign oil in the mid-70's, Stan sought
God's inspiriation. God answered with a process Stan calls the
"Hydrogen Fracturing Process", a process which disassociates the water
molecule into hydrogen and oxy gen yet yields more energy out than in.
Applying pulsed voltage rather than conventionally used amperage to
disassociate the water molecule, the process is adaptable for
conversion of gasoline powered engines to water (hydrogen) fuel and is
transmutable into other processes for home and industrial energy
production.
I have visited Stan's workshop in Ohio and discussed these patented
processes at length with him. According to hime and Dr. Russell every
atom is centered by a point of Stillness which is God. Stan says "by
subjecting the water molecule and H and O atoms to a high frequency
pulsed DC voltage (50KV up to 18,000V have worked) with milli-amp
current, the atoms expand and contract around their centering point of
Stillness. When expansion occurs energy from the 4th dimension leaks in
and pumps or primes the atom with energy." Literally the energy of
creation is tapped! The primed water molecule is easily popped apart
into hydrogen and oxygen. The H and O atoms remain primed with excess
energy and when reacted(ignited) to reform into water release both the
heat of fusion and the additional primed energy. His associate claimed
15 to 20 times over unity!
Stan Meyer and his associates are now developing "water fuel injectors"
to enable gasoline powered engines to be converted to water fuel. By
replacing the spark plugs with the "water fuel injectors" water will be
converted to hydrogen and oxygen at the combustion chamber. Once
ignited the H and O give a smoother and pollution free explosion. Thus
the technology can immediately move into mainstream usage,
disconnecting millions of pollution factories (our cherished
automobile) around the world. They plan to retrofit a piston engine
aircraft with the "water fuel" technology and fly around the equator
and then the poles--non-stop--to dtramatize the utility of this
process. Bon Voyage and God's Speed!! I predict piston powered engines
will go the way of the dinosaur!!
Spin-offs from the Hydrogen Fracturing Process include:
(1) An "Electrical Polarization Process" which produces a cold (room
temperature), ionized gas also primed with extra energy. As with the
"Hydrogen Fracturing Process", a high frequency, pulsed DC voltage with
minimal amperage ionizes and then primes the gas atoms or molecules.
When the ionized gas (N,O, orH) is passed through a copper coil not
only is the magnetic field of the ion inducing a current in the coil,
but the extra primed energy is released as additional current! Over
unity devices are practical. First generation devices the size of a 19"
TV can produce enough electricity to power an average home (heating and
AC not included).
continued tommorrow. . . out of time >>DLB
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Message 4779 DATE/TIME: 02/07/94 13:38
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
To : MARK GRAALMAN
Subject: (R) general tesla stuff
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Mark, most of my caps blew up using 9,000 volt neon transformers, some
using a 15,000 volt transformer. I had pretty good luck with the 9,000
- they lasted quite some time. The 15 kv killed 'em immediately. I
know Richard Hull uses 60 mil with no problems....either we have poor
poly down here (I've tried two different sources), or my transformers
produce more than they're rated, or I'm getting some tremendous voltage
spikes on my circuit. I'm going to 90 mil, so I think the days of
blown caps may be over. I hope. They're real nasty to rebuild once
they've been in oil. >> bert
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Message 4780 DATE/TIME: 02/07/94 13:42
From : BERT POOL
To : ALL
Subject: TOD experimental verification
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Some notes on our experiments with the TOD device.
.
Both Norm Wootan and myself (Bert Pool) have each built a
prototype TOD device (see file TOD.ZIP). The device is very
straight forward in construction. The concept behind this
device, basically, is to charge an inductive "collector" with a
very short pulse (2 to 5 uSEC) and immediately capture the
resulting discharge spike, which theoretically might contain
additional available freed electrons from the copper or electrons
grabbed from the virtual energy flux to then be used in a load.
.
Together, we spent many hours collecting careful measurements
with an impressive array of precision meters and very good
oscilloscopes. Norm and I both have excellent backgrounds in
using 'scopes, and we know how they can lie - but we also know
that they can reveal hidden truths.
.
We carefully plotted the measured input current versus output
current for pulse width signals ranging from 2 uSECs to 60 uSECs,
at repetition rates from a low of 15 pps (pulses per second) to
slightly more than 8,000 pps. We used a variety of "collector"
coils, ranging from 400 ft of 12 gauge wire to 3300 feet of 22
gauge wire.
.
At 60 uSECs, 60 hertz, we even "measured" an apparent
input/output current gain of over 120 using precision Fluke 4
digit current meters. We both had doubts that any of our meters
could accurately measure currents of such short duration, and our
oscilloscopes showed us that our concern was well founded.
.
Although the input pulse in one test was 60 uSEC wide, the output
signal delivered to the load consisted of two very narrow pulses
corresponding precisely to the "rise" edge and "fall" edge of the
60 uSEC input signal. These two pulses had substantially smaller
peak-to-peak voltages than the input, and they were only
NANOSECONDS in width - very, very narrow pulses. This meant that
the power available to the load was infinitesimally small.
Whereas we could take any of the the 2 uSEC to 60 uSEC INPUT
pulses and cause a tiny 2.5 volt incandescent bulb to faintly
glow (our source battery voltage was 12.56 volts), the nanosecond
pulsed output current from the circuit output to the same bulb
produced absolutely no output, even at very high repetition
rates. If our current meters were telling the truth, that bulb
should have been several times brighter on the output side of the
circuit, vs the input side. It was not.
.
The digital meters used in our tests are designed to measure
CONTINUOUS DC current, NOT micosecond or nanosecond pulsed direct
current. The only equipment available to the general experimenter
which can accurately measure such fast events is a good
oscilloscope. Not one of our meters was able to accurately read
the current in either the input or output circuits because the
signals were so very short and the mark/space ratio so small.
.
.
Conclusions:
.
1) The TOD device fails to exhibit an output that is even near
UNITY operation, much less over-unity.
.
2) Existing current meters CANNOT accurately measure either input
or output current of these small pulses. DC current meters
are designed to measure continuous current, AC meters are
designed to measure sinusoidal waveforms - the TOD input and
output signals exhibit neither of these characteristics.
The inability of these meters to measure current pulses
reliably results in false current readings.
.
3) Careful oscillograph viewings of the input and output signals
do not support an over-unity claim .
.
Recommendations:
.
1) To prevent erroneous readings, researchers should be cautioned
against trying to measure pulsed signal currents with meters
designed for continuous current or for sinusoidal AC current.
.
2) In the future, any device which claims over-unity operation
should be able to operate a real-world load. It is suggested
that this load be a precision carbon resistor, and that the
load resistor be placed in a water-bath calorimeter and power
calculated from temperature rise in the load. (see 3 below),
not from voltage/current readings.
.
A precision carbon resistor is a very stable and exact load
whose operating characteristics stay constant, even under
variable current conditions. The resistor can have its wires
insulated, and then be placed in an exact volume of water in a
Dewar flask (thermos bottle). Thermocouples can be used to
measure the degree of heating of the water that is caused by
current being dissipated as heat within the load. This is a
very reliable, universally accepted method of measuring power
being delivered to a load. The resistor and water do not care
whether the power is AC, DC, or pulsed - the measurements will
reliably tell you how much useable power is being delivered to
the load. Period.
.
Incandescent lamps present a pretty good adhoc test load as
well - the filament, because of its thermal mass, will tend to
average the effects of short duration pulses, and the light
output can be measured and calibrated using optical sensors
such as photocells or phototransistors.
.
3) We do not want to throw a "wet blanket" on the zpe energy
scene. But we have to encourage experimenters to try and
standardize to a measurement method that is accurate and
reasonably easy (and cheap) to make. A calorimetric method
fits both of these requirements. We build new energy devices
every day ourselves, and we have found out the hard way just
how tricky accurate power measurements can be when using
meters and 'scopes. ESPECIALLY when working with micro or nano
second pulses!
.
*******************************************************************
Norm and I will place on Keely Net sometime in the next several
days plans for building a shade-tree calorimeter which any
serious experimenter can put together for less than $50 worth of
kitchen utensils and Radio Shack goodies, many of which you
probably already have lying around or can steal from your kid's
lunch box. If you measure over-unity with this baby, then you've
something to get excited about! In the future, this will be our
standard of power measurement for any electrical device claiming
over-unity. Not volts. Not amps. Not millivolt-microamps. Just
plain old simple, reliable, unequivocal calories.
*******************************************************************
We'll include charts for converting calories to more familiar
measurement units - heck we might even get fancy and throw in some
metric unit conversions - milli foot newt futons, or some such thing!
>> Bert & Norm
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Message 4782 DATE/TIME: 02/07/94 20:35
From : MARK GRAALMAN -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: caps
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I don't understand it, are you sure you don't have a tuning problem?
Also, I would not use 90 mil it would be better to build two caps
using 40 mil in each and wiring them in series. That will result in
less dissipation in them and the thinner dielectric is more reliable.
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Message 4783 DATE/TIME: 02/07/94 20:54
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : Jerry Decker (SYSOP)
Subject: Comment
Folder : Z, "Comments to the Sysop"
Jerry: I wasn't aware until today that Bert Pool is not on the Area D
Special Associate Access on the Keely-Net. Bert is an excellent
researcher as you have probably noticed therefore I wish you would
consider up-grading his access to include the special associate group.
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Message 4785 DATE/TIME: 02/07/94 23:38
From : DAVID CHAPA -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: SHUNTS N STUFF
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
HI BERT, DID YOU TRY KNOCKING OUT YOUR SHUNTS YET? DONT FORGET TO PUT
SEVERAL COATS OF VARNISH ON IT. I'LL TRY TO WRITE SOMETHING UP ABOUT
IT, BUT I'M STILL WORKING ON THAT "COILBACK". I WAS ABLE TO GET 230
VOLTS OUT OF A SELF FED RELAY, BUT WHEN I RUN IT FROM A SAWTOOTH
GENERATOR I GET ZERO OUTPUT. I AM UNABLE TO GO NY FURTHER UNTIL I FIX
MY SCOPE (IT JUST DIED ON ME). I'M GOING TO GIVE UP ON THE 1458 OP-AMP
AND GO WITH AN 8038 FUNCTION GENERATOR CHIP. I PLAN TO UPLOAD ALL MY
ACTUAL CIRCUIT DIAGRAMS FROM FIRST TO LAST. I ALSO PLAN TO WRITE DOWN
ALL MY DATA THIS TIME I.E. VOLTS,AMPS,LOAD,NO LOAD,ETC. I'LL ALSO LOAD
UP "HOW TO BUILD YOUR OWN 3 FOOT DIAM. ALUMINUM BALL FOR TESLA COIL
OUTPUT TERMINALS FOR UNDER $20.00" AFTER I FINISH MY 20 PAGE THESIS FOR
SCHOOL SO DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH. I ALSO GOT A NEW BOOK CALLED "THE
FANTASTIC INVENTIONS OF NIKOLA TESLA" IT'S PRETTY GOOD. IT SAYS THEY
BELIEVE THE JUNE 30TH, 1908 EXPLOSION IN TUNGUSKA, SIBERIA THAT LEVELED
500,000 ACRES WAS CAUSED BY ONE OF TESLA'S EXPERIMENTS. LET ME KNOW HOW
YOUR EXPERIMENTS TUEN OUT, BYE.
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Message 4786 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 00:28
From : JIM SHAFFER -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) time travel
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Well, I got the information he was offering. From some of the stuff he
wrote he sounds like a nut, although not as bad as *some* nuts. The
circuit consists of a battery, a switch, a capacitor, and a piezo
element. You charge up the capacitor, then let it zap the piezo
element. There's one pot in series and another in parallel that he
says you use to tune it. I'm going to try it some day for kicks, but I
don't expect any effects! If you have reason to believe otherwise, let
me know. I just don't see such a small amount of crystal with such low
voltage having any effect on anything, even the mind.
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Message 4787 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 00:40
From : JIM SHAFFER -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Re: Upload of JGRAY.ASC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
This is the latest Noah's Ark claimant I told you about. You said you
wanted to give it to Fasold to dismember... It sounds pretty solid to
me, but of course I have *no* way of verifying it.
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Message 4788 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 01:23
From : DAVID BOOK
To : ALL
Subject: Stan Meyer
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Apologies for the typos yesterday. The only non-obvious one is in the
fifth line of the second paragraph. The first voltage should read 50V
not 50 KV. To continue Chester Hatstat, Jr.'s first person account of
Stan Meyer and his inventions from FULCRUM, August 1992:
(2) Stan has also tested and patented a device which converts matter to
heat energy in a safe, useful infra-red frequency! He ionizes the
dissociated H and O atoms from the "Hydrogen Fracturing Process" and
detonates the gas in an electron free environment while maintaining the
voltage pulsing. The resultant water molecule is unstable (being
devoid of some electrons) and under the effects of the pulsing and
detonation begins to "unwind" its mass in an attempt to reach a stable
state. According to Stan "It's like pulling a thread of a sweater, once
it starts to unravel you just keep on pulling and it unravels
completely." 2.5 million barrels of oil equivalency can be produced
from 1 gallon of water without radioactive decay products or high
energy electromagnetic radiation! Power plants for all sizes of ships,
industries, cities, buildings, space craft. . . .etc. are possible!!!!
Once the "unwinding" is harnessed transmutation of the elements becomes
practical.
(3) A "Gas Management System" to safely store, transport, and use
hydrogen when produced in bulk quantities. This technology is missing
in present day equipment utilizing hydrogen for power.
(4) A "Steam Resonator" which uses pulsed voltage processing to heat
water to steam and steam to super heat temperatures. The steam produced
has the additional energy of the 'priming' effect at work in the
'Hydrogen Fracturing Process', thus more energy is produced than is
consumed without any chemical or radio active pollution.
Stan Meyer was able to secure patents on these processes because he
never made any over unity claims. The U.S. Patent Office required a
demonstration of the technology prior to issue. The review board stared
in disbelief and turned a normal 20 minute review into a 3 hour
question and answer session as hydrogen began bubbling from Stan's
device without any production of heat or use of high currents. Other
patents include equipment needed to make the processes work efficiently
and safely. He owns all the patents and is committed to seeing the
technology get into the world. Within two years you will be able to
convert your car to water fuel for maybe $1800. Within 3 years Stan
will be disconnecting homes from the electric power company! This
technology will revolutionize science, industry, energy
interdependence, energy pollution, ad infinitum. From my perspective
having water be the solution to our energy needs and our current fossil
and nuclear fuel pollution crisis is incredibly Divine.
How does this technology relate to Walter Russell's concepts of the
Universe? Stan's own description of God centering each atomic system is
a start. Stan then utilizes the Bohr nuclear model and current atomic
electronic theory to explain the physics underlying his "Water Fuel
Cell". I leave it to you the students to give some insights and
possible mechanism based on the Russell science paradigm. It is
apparent the processes are electrically conditioning the atoms. What
happens to the atomic vortex during the voltage pulsing is a good point
for discussion. How can the atomic vortex store extra energy? By
changing roataion, revolution, axial-planar relationship,
oblation?????? Having given Stan a copy of Dr. Russell's books to
peruse I will be sure to include him in these discussions.
Stan can be reached at 3792 Broadway, Grove City, Ohio, 43123.
end of article
The Proceedings of the International Symposium on New Energy (April
16-18, 1993) gives an undiluted presentation of these processes in Stan
Meyers own words and diagrams. He also publishes "The Birth of New
Technology: Water Fuel Cell Technolgy Brief," available at the above
address. The phone number there is 1-616-871-4173, FAX 1-614-871-8075.
DLB
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Message 4789 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 03:29
From : MICHAEL LORREY -- RECEIVED --
To : GERALD O'DOCHARTY
Subject: (R) Electric Cars
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
While you are correct in principle that electric cars do not pollute
the atmosphere themselves per se, they do create a large amount of
pollutants in their batteries, and the added load to the electric grid
will mandate that additional powere plants be built. Natural gas has
become so popular these days that there is only a seven year level of
known reserves in the ground, and although new reserves are being
discovered every day, the rate of consumption is increasing faster than
the reserves are, thus reducing the amount of reserves. The most likely
source of new power in the US is likely to be either coal or oil. These
fuels can produce power at a levelized cost of $0.056 per kWh. Other
sources of power like nuclear at $0.10 per kWh, wind at $0.12 per kwh,
and solar at $0.15 to $0.35 per kWh just do not compete economically
with these fuels. It is all good and well to just say, "get rid of the
fossil fuels" but you don't realize what a significant negative impact
such a choice will have on our economy and way of life.
Your figures on the efficincy of electric vehicles are a bit off. WHile
normal compusiton motors are between 16 to 24% efficient, an electric
car can be as much as 46% efficient. THis is the actual figures, not
just those from the power lant alone. If you don't believe me just ask
the people at the Washinton State Energy Office, they just published a
report on this subject that is free to the public. THey are based in
Olympia Wa.
The overall improvement in pollution reduction, while significant,
represents an incredible capital investment of virtually the
replacement of every car, bus, truck, and train in America. As there
are 1.1 vehilce for every American, we can infer that there are around
250 million vehicles in America today that would need replacement, at
an average cost of $20,000 for the new vehicle, plus $5000 for the loss
of depreciation on the vehicle being replaced. THis comes to an
investment of $6.25 trillion dollars, at a minimum, to affect this
change. I think this figure is very underestimated. In addition to
these costs, there would be the additional operating costs due to
shortened range and performance of the vehicles, handling and disposale
of toxic batteries which nobody, least of all the eco freak, will want
in their back yard, as well as additional investments for the expansion
of the electric grid system to handle this greatly increased load.
As for soalr powered cars, I have a freind who builds electric cars for
a living, who says that there is no way in hell that any solar panels
covering three times the area of one car can hope to power a vehilce
built to the standards of safety mandated by law (ie roll cage, door
bar, crumple zones, 5mph bumper, etc etc etc) that will last through
the ravages of years of use and abuse by normal people. The flashy
sleek electric and solar cars you see at races may be very high in
performance, however, they do not have to conform to any of these
standards and are built to last for only a few races and no collisions,
with only one or two little bitty passengers. these vehicles are mreo
[C
more similar to BUrt Rutans Voyager aircraft
or the Gossamer Condor, Gossamer ALbatross, etc: these disigns were
never meant to be applied to normal aviation.
If one of these free energy gimmicks ever pan out, this will be the
real solution to our problems (or if they get cold fusion harnessed) as
all these other concepts like hydrogen, natural gas, electric, et al,
are simply efforts to move the actual source of pollution around.
If you think that natural gas does not pollute, you really don't know
what you are talking about. Not only does natural gas produce more
carbon dioxide than gas, but also produces so2 and nox emissions since
they also burn oil that is used as lubricant in the engine.
Mike
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Message 4790 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 09:31
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
To : MARK GRAALMAN
Subject: (R) caps
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Mark, I am going to build 3 new caps with single 90 mil, and the rest
will consist of two sheets, 1 60 mil, and 1 30 mil. I have heard that
multiple sheets provides better insulation, and it makes sense, since a
minor defect in one sheet would be offset by good insulation in the
other sheet(s).
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Message 4791 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 09:36
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
To : DAVID CHAPA
Subject: (R) SHUNTS N STUFF
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
David, Norm Wootan let me borrow a most excellent book on Tesla. It is
a compilation of transcripts between Tesla and his patent attorney.
They were getting ready to do some major patent battles, and Tesla's
attorney wanted the real low-down on what Nikola had been doing. Tesla
was very open with his attorney, and this book provides some incredible
insight into what Tesla was really doing in Colorado Springs. There
are some very good photographs, a detail listing of every piece of
equipment stored at the generating plant in Wardencliff (sp). I highly
recommend this book to Tesla researchers, and I will definitely be
buying my own copy as soon as I get a few extra dollars. > Bert
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Message 4792 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 10:53
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) TOD Circuit
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm! You know, what you mention is very similar to something
called "water hammer"....it occurs when a rapid flow is suddenly shut
off and causes the moving water to slam against itself and generate a
thrust in the pipe fittings...I think this is the same thing but with a
different type of energy, in this case magnetism at a frequency which
causes a slight motion....when brought from a non-energized state to a
high energy state, this causes the rattling....I have heard that
before, and most easily in the flexible conduit like what is used for
overhead fluorescents....>>> Jerry
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Message 4793 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 10:56
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : STEVE BASTIAN
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Steve! ANYTIME!...>>> Jerry
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Message 4795 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 11:00
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : ROBERT KESTERSON
Subject: (R) Disks?
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Robert! Great and thanks for giving me a break on this.....well, at
least the weather is looking better for this part of the week, but they
are predicting cold tomorrow....later...>>> Jerry
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Message 4796 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 11:01
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : DAVID BOOK
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi David! Well, I can snuff the "Grim Reaper" fairly easily.
As to Meyer, that article might be by Tim Binder as he was at the IANS
conference last year as was Stan. Guess I should subscribe to the
University course though I have the 3 main books from which much of the
literature is taken...though don't have anything on the electroptic tap
that everyone is so hot about....thanks for the note....and I'll get
you more time also...>>> Jerry
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Message 4797 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 11:05
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) Hardy's Book
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Joel! And guess whose behind it all??? The FreeMasons maybe???
Look at any dollar bill, the significance of the flag, etc...lots on
that and I guess it should be made as files, just for
interest...personally, my interest tends more to the Maht Heru, the
sacred language which gave the words of power....these words could
focus, spread or guide energy for the purposes of motion, lift,
manifestation, destruction, healing...etc...the geometries of magic
squares that we have all been looking into is a crude form of this,
since energy, properly directed (and that includes sound) can do
"magic"...to the uninitiated...geez, sounds spooky eh? But there is
much to back it up from science sources, dissipative structures, chaos,
strange attractors, topology, waveguides, diffraction gratings,
parabolic reflectors, etc, etc....and yes, I think there book is a
staple for any decent library on such subjects as most of us
pursue...guess you talked with Mary? She left a note on my answering
machine and I will call her this weekend....>>> Jerry
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Message 4798 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 11:10
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To : ERIC DUCHAINE
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Eric! No, sorry to say I have nothing new on the Auraview though
did talk with Chuck a couple of months ago and he says he would be
willing to come to Dallas and talk to our local group, he also has new
images which he says he can run off for us when he gets his new
computer back online...(blew it up when a screw fell on a circuit board
during a memory install)....anyway, always looking for more on this as
it IS fascinating...thanks Eric!...>>> Jerry
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Message 4799 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 11:12
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : DAVID BOOK
Subject: (R) Stan Meyer
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi David! Take down GARRETT1.ZIP for the earliest work on this that is
really impressive....and thanks for the info!...>>> Jerry
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Message 4800 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 11:15
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: (R) TOD experimental verification
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bert & Norm!
E-X-C-E-L-L-E-N-T! CUBED!!!.................I will get in touch with
Lee and get him to capture your message file and respond, ok?...>>>
Jerry
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Message 4801 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 11:17
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: (R) Time
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bert! Probably so, I don't remember setting it last time, but you
know it really should be on Mars time that we all need to get used to,
Mars has a 25 hour day or so my DNA tells me...>>> Jerry
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Message 4802 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 11:18
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norman! GEEZ, SORRY! I never noticed that!! I thought he had
always been "out there"....but if he ain't NOW, he will be when I get
out of this message....guess I need to check some other levels, I might
have missed (probably so) several people who need to be
"in"...hehehe..thanks for telling me about it, I am so ashamed....>>>
Jerry
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Message 4805 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 11:33
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : JIM SHAFFER
Subject: (R) time travel
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Jim! Sounds like a scam to me....but if the crystal was shaped, you
might end up hurting yourself, won't say more publicly but there are
some dangers with crystals excited mechanically, especially when they
are focussing types....personally I don't see how a crystal circuit
like you describe could possibly have anything to do with manipulating
time....now a gold watch maybe....<g>...>>> Jerry
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Message 4806 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 11:36
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : JIM SHAFFER
Subject: (R) Re: Upload of JGRAY.ASC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Jim! Thanks, and I will send it to David as well....>>> Jerry
...Hey Jim! I just read that file and this Ron Wyatt is the very
character who worked with David on the site, but it ain't on Ararat,
though your file says it is 2000m up....but everything else fits the
site David looked into with Radar....
You know, I could not get Dave on the phone last month and maybe he is
off looking into this one?? But if it's his original site, then they
were beaten out, if not, then maybe there is another.
David says he thinks there were MANY arks...and his is one if not THE
original piloted by Noah. Guess only the future will tell.
But after about 4000 years, I really have a hard time with the claims
of antlers and/or animal remains....lets see what Dave says, maybe he
will write something for us...>>> Jerry
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Message 4808 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 13:36
From : SCOTT FUSARE -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: (R) caps
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bert and greetings from Vermont. Been watching your tale of woe with
the homemade polycaps caps and thought you might (I hope)
find my experiances with them of interest.
Hull is adamant about not exceeding 12 Kv with 60 mil poly. I blew my
first poly cap with a 15 Kv xformer and noted that corona was visible
within the roll above 12 Kv. If a cap that's sunk in oil is glowing in
the dark I have to belive it's being stressed near it's limit. Two of
these guys in series will take anything in the neon xformer department.
Course you half the capacitance that way but I found building new ones
was easier than repairing dead oil soaked (read slimy and slippery)
caps.
Course that doesn't explain why the 9 Kv xformers brutalized your
caps. I killed my second cap with a 12 Kv xformer by running the gaps
to wide. Tesla range caps (.001 - .1) are right in the correct range to
resonant a neon xformer secondary at 60 Hz. I found a .01 uF to be the
perfect value to resonate a 15 Kv / 30 mA transformer at 60 Hz. The
voltage as measured on a HV meter rose to over 22 KV with the cap in
place! If you don't have a meter I would set the gaps to the max
spacing without a cap in circut and then back them down a bit this
would give one a good saftey margine. I killed a bunch of neons this
way also before realising what was going on.
I still run my poly caps in series / parallel configuration with a
pole pig driven magnifier style coil with not one hint of trouble, they
don't even get warm. Hope this has been of some help Bert.
...............good luck .... Scott
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Message 4816 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 15:39
From : LYNDA MCCLOSKEY
To : BRYANT STAVELY
Subject: (R) Mental Programming for the Masses
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I also read 'Silent Weapons.' Intriguing to say the least. People who
do not use their intelligence are no better than animals and are beasts
of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent... etc. etc.
How diabolically true! Someone left me a message earlier re the fact
that most people can't think, can't read, etc. Which unfortunately is
true to a disturbingly large extent. Oh well, all of us have free will
and personal responsibility, and I know what I'm going to do with mine.
I'm just sorry to see that so many are willing to abdicate.
Ps
p
p
'scuse the garbage while I try to remember how to exit!!!!
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Message 4818 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 16:55
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
To : SCOTT FUSARE
Subject: (R) caps
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I appreciate your feedback on poly caps, Scott. I am going to be using
a pole pig this spring, and it looks like I'll probably go
series/parallel too, since my transformer will be 12.4 kv. I don't
plan on having to re-build these guys again! I am also going to
re-design my rotary spark gap to use a quieter and more vibration free
motor. I currently use a circular skill saw motor to drive my disk -
LOTS of available torque, and it doesn't take all day to get up to
speed, but damn it's loud! Sure, once power is on, who can hear the
motor anyway? But it would be nice to knock some of the decibels down
a bit. I'm now convinced that I don't need the large size hardware
I've been using on my rotary gap, per Hull & Wild Bill Emory. The
smaller weight hardware will result in a more balanced disk, less mass,
easier adjustments. What are the specs on your coil?
>> Bert
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Message 4820 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 18:28
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
To : ALL
Subject: Re: Upload of BST.ASC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
BST or BGH or, more correctly rbST is going to be added to dairy
animals nationwide. One state tried to fight this, and lost. BST.ASC
is the story of that fight, and how you can overcome the awesome might
of the USDA...it's DEFINITELY in your best interest!
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Message 4821 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 18:38
From : WESLEY PRICE
To : ALL
Subject: alg2.zip
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
justu/ld more algae product info for those interseted in natural
healing methods
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Message 4822 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 21:55
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : GENE MILLS
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Gene! Well, that was done long ago and is under VANHIST1.ZIP, just
for those who want to know what brought all this on. I too enjoyed the
chat this afternoon! Thanks for the interest, we need all we can get,
especially active experimenters who will discuss and share their
findings, failures or successes!...>>> Jerry
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Message 4826 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 22:21
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Special Area D Associates
Folder : Z, "Comments to the Sysop"
Jerry: I really appreciate you allowing Bert to Join us for he truly is
one of the best and most sincere researchers. We need more open minded
talent like his in the Vangard Group insteadof the strap hangers we now
have. Thanks again for your consideration. We really enjoyed the time
we spent on the TOD Circuit and to get your response made it all worth
the effort. I will always seekout the truth and make it known even
thoufg it may step on some toes every-now-and-then. This is true
PEER-REVIEW in every sense of the word, wouldn't you agree?? About the
conduit noise, I have one of my nursing homes that has a large elevator
hydraulic motor that just rattles the sh-- out of the conduit run
everytime it starts. I think I am going to take some meters down to
the equipment room and try to capture some data on the phenomenon. I
have some peak capture and hold current and volt meters that may do the
trick. We'll see. We need to be talking about the next Vangard
meeting,since it is right around the corner. Did you have all of the
DOTTO RING data already in your possesion??? Do you think we should
put it up as a file?? I am very interested in constructing one for the
Theory is as sound as any I have seen. Maybe we can make it fly. HA!
HA! Thanks again. Norm
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Message 4827 DATE/TIME: 02/08/94 22:35
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: Rotary Spark Gap
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bert: Have I got a deal for you. I made my usual daily stop at the
secret store today and picked up a small centrifuge. These little
babbies turn incredible RPM and are very quiet. They are balanced to
the tits and would make a beautiful spark gap. Yes you can control the
RPM. All you need to do is modify the test tube holder wheel and
you've got it. Call me tomorrow and I'll reserve your copy. GOODIES--
GALORE HA! HA! Norm PS If all the other Tesla coil builders
are paying attention they are probably running out to find the SECRET
STORE.
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Message 4832 DATE/TIME: 02/09/94 06:51
From : SCOTT FUSARE -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: (R) caps
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hope you found the info helpfull Bert. Commercial caps are so expensive
that homemade is the only way to go without spending big buck. I have
been frequenting hamfests and scrap yards for years and either can't
find any caps or suffer from the "you shoulda been here last week
" syndrome. By the way where you using that rotory gap with the neons?
I have never tried that myself but have heard a lot of input as to how
easy it was to destroy a neon xformer in htis configuration. Another
thing I found with the neons and static gap was that due to the current
limited nature of the transformer the system would run and about 30%
lower voltage than it took to fire the gap. I had my series gaps set to
run at 11KV but the voltage had to rise to near 15 KV to initialy fire
the gap. I was afraid of wacking another neon (was running a bank of 4
the time and had a pile twice that size of dead ones) so set up a
triggered gap. Built a HV (15KV) DC supply and hooked it to a needle
point 3 inches from the series gaps. By spraying the gaps down with
ions the breakdown was lowered to 4 KV and the system voltage never
rose above that which was dictated by the gap spacing. Of course the
HVDC supply had to be shut of after the gaps where ignited or it would
adversly affect quenching. By the way do you use a variac to ramp up
primary power? I found just flipping aa switch spiked the hell out of
things. Your gaap sounds
interestinghings.
Your gap sounds interesting, I never thought of using a circular saw
motor. Mine was built using a 1/10 HP universal motor I picked up at a
hamfest. I gives only 6 breaks per revolution and is maxed out at 6000
RPM so my break rate is limited to 600 bps right now which I find to be
a disadvantage.As far as specs on the coil it appears in Hull's tape#37
I belive although it was just fired by neons at that point. It's
primary is wound out of RG8 coax (100 feet for 157 uH I think) in a
tight cylinder. The secondary is wound on a 17" diameter 14" tall(I
think) poly flower pot, it's closewound with #16 insulated wire. The
extra coil I have had the best luck with is wound on a 22" length of 6"
PVC pipe with #20 magnet wire. About 10 mH if I recall correctly and
with the 4X18 and 8X30 toroids in place is resonant at 180 Khz. Primary
capacitance is .018 by the way, four of those caps in series parallel.
I have run power input from 2 - 4 KW, have gotten 6 foot leaps at the 2
KW mark, my cellar is small enough that the sparks can't jump further
than that without finding a good target (floor/cieling/table saw
ect...). At 4 Kw the sparks just get whiter. Well I hear the boss
coming so better get back to work. .... Scott
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Message 4834 DATE/TIME: 02/09/94 08:58
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Special Area D Associates
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm! As to the Dotto Ring, I have had all that for awhile but
thanks for the copies...I too was VERY IMPRESSED with the SCOPE of this
man's knowledge...geez, how many people have you EVER met who could
converse and correlate across multiple disciplines....
We tried to track Dr. Dotto down and found out the following:
He and his wife divorced.
She lives in Washington and wants nothing to do with his research or
anyone interested in it or him.
Gianni has an ancestral castle in Italy where he is now living.
Some people have died who took extended treatments with the machine.
Our contact said he was not aware if the people already HAD cancer
of an advanced nature, etc...but that mutations in the form of tumors
appeared on the body of those so treated.
That was about 3 or 4 years back and we have not pursued it further. I
was very surprised about the Nexus article which came out last year. I
had received a copy with my subscription....Rex Research also sells the
Dotto Ring papers (for about 2 or 3 years now)....>>> Jerry
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Message 4843 DATE/TIME: 02/09/94 14:01
From : CHRIS TERRANEAU -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Re: Upload of ZPETEST.ZIP
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Jerry !
I've just uploaded ZPETEST.ZIP, some experiences I've had playing with
COILBAK type circuits. Please review this file, and if you feel it's
usefull, post it for downloading. I would welcome any comments you have
on this file. I haven't given up on this, I just think we all need not
to be fooled by 'conventional' phenomena witnessed in experimenting
with these circuits.
Later................................CHRIS
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Message 4844 DATE/TIME: 02/09/94 15:13
From : BRYAN HAYES -- RECEIVED --
To : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL
Subject: (R) Area 51
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Be sure to bring back lots of photos!
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Message 4845 DATE/TIME: 02/09/94 18:04
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: DOTTO RING
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Jerry: My interest in the DOTTO RING is not in the medical aspects but
more along the lines of ANTI_GRAVITY and the bluish corona that
develops around the ring when it is operated. I believe that Dotto
drove his ring with just enough power or heat input to achieve the 5X
magnetic field at the center of the ring which he felt was sufficient
to treat the human body. I further believe that when he increased the
heat input abouve what was necessary for treatment was when he observed
the anti-gravity characteristics. There is a wide margin to operate in
for he was only using 6000W heat input and 12000BTU heat extraction on
the cold end. Let's say hypothetically that we increase the heat input
by a magnitude of 10 then use some cryogenic cooling on the extraction
end then see what this thing will really do. It will be an interesting
experiment to say the least. Also, if you go back and carefully read
the background theory of operation again then you will realize a way to
tap off the tremendous current potential in the ring. Remember he said
that it is tuned till there appears an occillation of 1.9 Meg HZ with a
10 K HZ modulation. Although there is 30000amps flowing in the ring
(supposedly DC ) what about the high freq oscillations???????? I don't
have to remind you what kind of power you would have if you
down converted 0ver 30000 amps @ 1.9 Meg HZ to 60 HZ. WoooooooW The
most interesting aspect to the theory is the shift in the electron
orbit plane which exposes the copper protons on the inner surface of
the ring. That blue corona that developes around the ring sounds
exactly the same as John Searle's ring and Reight's Orgone energy.
Well I have every thing in my shop to build one except the copper
stock. That can be ordered with no problem at all. Maybe we can
create some interest in this project here on the net. Norm
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Message 4847 DATE/TIME: 02/09/94 22:45
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : ARIE VANDENBERG
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Arie! No, I have no information regarding ParaNet or any internal
problems with their structure or people...you might call Clark Matthews
of the Wrong Number BBS as listed at the signoff screen here. He is a
ParaNet node...>>> Jerry
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Message 4850 DATE/TIME: 02/09/94 22:50
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : CHRIS TERRANEAU
Subject: (R) Re: Upload of ZPETEST.ZIP
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Chris! I agree with you 110%! It is much to easy to jump on a
circuit when in fact it is parasitics, current seepage or most commonly
mismeasurement of the energy being "produced".
We all kind of understand that it should be able to drive a useful
load, screw the projections and calculations, in the real world, things
move....thanks, will review and post!...>>> Jerry
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Message 4851 DATE/TIME: 02/09/94 22:53
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) DOTTO RING
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm! The main holdback with Dotto was the requirement for a
CONSTANTAN ring...that stuff is expensive. Dotto's description of the
levitation effect as taken from HIS paper fits well with other
researchers and if you study several of them in aggregate, there are
some quite interesting patterns that correlate...>>> Jerry
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Message 4852 DATE/TIME: 02/09/94 22:55
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To : BOB SANTEE
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bob! Thanks and you are most welcome to take anything you feel is
of interest. Clark has most of our files there in New Jersey and we
have tried to do that so folks could save on their long distance calls.
Welcome to KeelyNet!...>>> Jerry
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Message 4854 DATE/TIME: 02/10/94 08:57
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Dotto Ring
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Jerry: Go back and read the Dotto Ring Patent that I gave to you. In
it you will find all the detailsof constructing the ring. The 9" wide
X 1/2" thick X 68" long (nearly 300#) ring 27" diameter was 99.99% pure
copper annealed to dead soft to provide 100% electrical condutivity as
specified in any engineering handbook. The only Constantan (60%
copper,40% nickle) was in the small bridge bars, 2 in number which are
only about 2" long and approximately 3/8" in diameter. I don't
envision making a ring as big as Dotto's for it would be an awful
expense to incure so if it failed to produce any results it would wind
up as a novelty in a junk sale. I was thinking on the order od a ring
about 12" diameter. Anyway it will be an interesting project. Of
course Leonard is jumping up and down wanting to build it. Norm
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Message 4855 DATE/TIME: 02/10/94 09:09
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Bert Circuit
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Jerry: Last night I added about $20.00 to my phone bill for Bert had
me verify a circuit that he designed. After a quick run to Radio Shack
for a hand full of parts we settled down to some serious construction
and testing via phone. I was duplicating everything that Bert was
doing and measureing the results on curent and volt meters plus two
scopes. This will take your socks right off. Bert will be posting
some data real soon. I know your interest is up, but you will have to
await Berts report on the experiment. This is a real ZINGER. Norm
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Message 4856 DATE/TIME: 02/10/94 10:06
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To : STEVE ROBERTSON
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Steve! Yes, that was a particularly interesting file...I would like
to see the book about the ACAMBARO findings down in Mexico..I too think
there is much covered up...not necessarily a coherent conspiracy, just
little pockets of "resistance" to full knowledge....this seems to apply
to many areas of life, especially where one group or more want to keep
control of something.... You also might want to look at the files on
Noah's Ark and the Ark of the Covenant...they are quite intriguing from
several standpoints...>>> Jerry
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Message 4857 DATE/TIME: 02/10/94 10:09
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Dotto Ring
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norman! Yes, I saw that but when I tried to find constantan, could
not easily do so...there is a rare metals place over on N. Denton Drive
but that was many years back and they had nothing like it...same kind
of problem finding this weird super pure aluminum that Merkle says is
necessary to "grow" a compound called SuperOx...seems like it might
cost some bucks but at the time we were thinking along the lines of an
old refrigerator for the cooling coils....it's just evacuated copper
lines after all, and soldering ain't so tough....I think with the info
about the side effects along with the constantan, it just faded
away...now with some bucks, time and a decent workshop to do it, I
still think it is a viable project, so go for it...guess we can cut off
anything that pops up...but maybe you'll get lucky...hehehe...>>> Jerry
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Message 4858 DATE/TIME: 02/10/94 10:13
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Bert Circuit
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Norm! Always open minded around here, in fact, sometimes a cesspool
just seething with stuff....so pour it in...got a note from Lee and he
responded to a message from Gerald...I must post it since he sent it as
a message to Gerald...but he is eager for more info....maybe if I'm
lucky won't have to work tonite because of the "ice"...geez, what
weenies, this ain't nothin....but I would like the day off, even though
it would be unpaid, but I can take a vacation day...>>> Jerry
===============================================================================
Message 4863 DATE/TIME: 02/11/94 01:08
From : BERT POOL
To : ALL
Subject: Fire Fly
Folder : C, "Advertisements"
===============================================================================
Message 4865 DATE/TIME: 02/11/94 01:26
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Fire Fly 3
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Jerry, my third attempt to load this. Please forward to other "D"
associates for me. Thanks - Bert
.
Don't you just hate to dial into Keely Net and find that the
board has been dead and no one's posted anything? Well, a
lot's been going on, and those of us who've been iced in here in
Dallas have put the unexpected days off to good use. Read and
enjoy. Better yet, you'd best warm up your soldering iron!
.
1) an unexpected interruption from Lee Trippett
.
A few days ago Lee Trippett sent us a diagram for a simple pulse
circuit which was supposed to dump a pulse of current into a coil
and then connect a load to the isolated coil (collector) to
extract any over-unity power, ala Tom Bearden - minus the
degenerate power conductor. Lee had gotten some incredible meter
readings which showed very high input-to-output power ratios. A
couple of us here in Dallas immediately stopped whatever
experiments we had in progress and built a couple of these
devices. Independent confirmation found the current readings
were erroneous due to the fact that the circuit had the
experimenter try to measure micro to nano second wide pulses with
current meters designed to measure steady-state d.c. Fast
oscilloscopes showed no real power gain. I dismissed the circuit
as an excellent but faulty try, and then I went back to my work.
.
2) nose to the grind wheel
.
As many of you who follow the postings on this net know, I
proposed an experiment several days ago and invited comments: if
you connect a battery to a very long wire for 1 uSEC then
disconnect it, and you have an LED which is 4 uSECs away (several
thousand feet of wire), will the LED light up? Don't be too
quick to answer, for by the time the voltage potential gets to
the LED, the BATTERY WILL HAVE BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM THE CIRCUIT
FOR OVER 3 MICROSECONDS! Can an LED light up even when there is
no longer a battery supplying potential in the circuit? That's
what I was trying to prove. What is nice is that it is a yes or
no problem. You either have light, or you don't. The purpose of
the experiment is to determine whether a conductor can be
potentialized and power withdrawn without running down the
battery.
.
3) The ghost of TOD returns
.
The lesson learned from Trippett's attempt to measure pulses with
d.c. meters was still very fresh in my mind. I needed to measure
current accurately in MY circuit, so I set up my meter in the
d.c. power supply lead to my circuit, not in any area where
pulses were involved. Just to make sure stray pulses from my
oscillator (NE-555, the same as Lee's) didn't get back to the
meter through the power buss, I added several 0.01 ufd spike
suppressor capacitors to the power leads on the chips, and threw
in an extra 1,000 ufd across the main buss to really filter the
d.c. back to the meter. I damn sure was not going to have any
a.c. crap screwing up my current measurements! My 'scope showed
the prettiest 11.65 volt pure d.c. input power anyone could ask
for.
.
4) Wiring my test experiment - LOTS of wire!
In my test I originally was going to use two 5,000 foot 18 gauge
wires to perform my LED test. Norman Wootan found several
thousand feet of RG-5x coaxial cable, which is much easier to
use. The circuit was very simple: a 555 oscillator provided
pulses adjustable from 1 uSEC to 20 uSEC wide at a repetition
rate from a few hundred to several thousand pulses per second.
The 555 puts out a negative going pulse, and I wanted positive
pulses, so I fed tha 555's output into a CMOS CD-4001 NOR gate
wired to act as an inverter to give me positive going pulses. The
CD-4001 chip is nice for this work, because it can supply current
directly to an LED without needing any current limiting
resistors. I checked the output of the 4001 and had very, very
nice 1 to 20 uSEC pulses. Total circuit d.c. current, with no
LED was 7.8 milliamps. Plugging in the LED directly to the 4001
output caused the current to rise to 8.5 milliamps, and the LED
glowed nicely. I removed the LED and connected the end of a
4,300 foot length of coax to the output of the 4001. My scope
showed an expected drop in pulse amplitude and an increase in
current to 9.5 milliamps. Expected, because I had measured the
capacitance of the coax and found that between the inner
conductor and the outer shielded jacket the coax measured out at
0.047 ufd. This capacitance attenuated my pulse some, and loaded
the circuit, but not to an untoward degree. I measured the
total circuit current - total current going into the 555, the
4001, and the coax - and with NO LED load yet. Current was 9.5
milliamps. I then connected the LED to the far end of the coax.
.
4) The moment of truth
I had a 35 mhz dual trace triggered scope connected to each end
of the coax. I saw the 4001 put a 1 uSEC pulse of d.c. on the
near-end of the coax. Three uSECs later the pulse reached the LED
at the other end of the coax. THE LED LIT UP. EVEN THOUGH YOU
COULD PLAINLY SEE ON THE SCOPE THAT THE DRIVING POTENTIAL HAD
BEEN REMOVED FROM THE COAX SEVERAL MICROSECONDS PREVIOUSLY.
EXPERIMENT COMPLETE!
.
Wasn't that exciting!? Well, maybe some of you aren't real
exciteable. I know I didn't pee in my pants. Heck, I didn't
even dribble. Until I looked at my current meter. You remember
that carefully filtered, isolated meter which was measuring the
total power to the complete circuit? I knew already that the LED
wanted to pull about 0.5 ma current to light up. My unloaded
circuit was pulling 9.5 ma. Connecting the LED should have driven
the current up to somewhere near 10 ma. Not even .01 of one ma
more current flowed into the circuit to light up the LED! So
where the hell was the power to light the LED coming from? It
sure as heck wasn't coming through my meter from the power
supply! I connected and disconnected the LED several times. My
meter was registering current accurate to .01 of 1/000 of one
ampere. It never moved. It never saw the LED load. OK, I admit
that maybe I dribbled a little then!
.
I called Norm. He went to Radio Shack and got all the required
parts. I guided him over the phone on how to connect everything.
Only he didn't have any coax! It was all on my bench. But he
did have several thousand feet of wire on a spool. What the
heck, Lee Trippitt had tried to use a coil - we decided to
substitute Norm's spool of wire for the coax. Norm got the same
results as I did with the coax! Quickly, I disconnected my coax
and connected a spool of 3,300 feet of 22 gauge hookup wire I had
left over from my TOD experiment. My LED glowed as brightly as
ever. I found pulse width and frequency COULD be changed to
force an increase in my current meter. I could set a wider pulse
and finally get a response from my current meter when I removed
and inserted the LED. However, OPTIMIZING the pulse caused the
current in the circuit to DROP when the LED was plugged in!
Neither Norm or I could explain what we were seeing. Norm hooked
a second LED across the first LED on his device. Now he had TWO
glowing LEDS. His meter didn't move a digit. How many LED's can
we parallel before we start to use power from the supply? We
don't know yet. But two for sure!
Continued in next message.....................
.
--------------------
NOTE: This message has been FORWARDED to Norman Wootan by
Bert Pool on 02/11/94 at 10:42
===============================================================================
Message 4866 DATE/TIME: 02/11/94 01:28
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Fire Fly 3
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Experiment continued.............
.
As as additional test, I placed the LED near a precision
photocell (which had a 2.2 ufd tantalum cap across it to filter
pulses into pure d.c.) and measured light output. The photcell
showed 0.303 volts. I then re-connected the LED through a
potentiometer to the d.c. power supply and set the pot so the
LED put out the same light as earlier driven by the coil.
I then disconnected/connected the LED and watched my power meter.
Yep, it moved 0.5 ma, just as Old Ampere would have expected. I
moved the LED back to the coil circuit. I connected/disconnected
the LED to the coil again. Nope, still NO additional current
flow, but THE LED LIT UP JUST AS BRIGHT! Ah Ha! Maybe the
secret was in the pulses! Maybe if I used pulses instead of pure
d.c. on the control pot test?! So I changed the pot connection
on the LED test driver from the d.c. buss to the 4001 pulsed
output and set the pot so the light output was the same as when
the LED was connected to the coil. When I unplugged the LED,
current dropped 0.5 ma. Ampere was happy. Volta was happy.
So, this test showed that it didn't make a damn bit of difference
whether the "control" test pot used d.c. or pulsed power! If I
connected the LED to continuous d.c. or pulsed d.c. I could see
the current to the circuit go UP when I connected the LED. But
NOT if I connected the SAME LED to the coil circuit! I had run
out of ideas. That LED was going to light up and pull no current
from my power supply whether I liked it or not.
.
5) You too can amaze your friends!
Jerry is putting the diagram on the net. Maybe five bucks worth
of parts. Less if you already built the TOD. A spool of wire. A
sensitive photocell is optional (heck, we'll let you borrow one
of ours if you want). There are no switching transistors
involved. Please build one of these and start with a narrow
pulse, about 400 to 600 hertz repetition rate. Slowly increase
pulse width until the LED glows. Make note of the current on
your current meter. Disconnect your LED. The current meter
SHOULD show a significant drop in power when you remove the load.
It won't. Plug the LED back in. It lights up. Current should go
up. It does not. Nifty, huh?
.
Norm thinks a resonance effect is taking place within the
coil/coax. I agree. Perhaps the coil or coax IS forming a tuned
circuit, and the LED is only an insignificant part of the circuit
current....BUT that LED is in SERIES with the coil! Open the LED
and you open the coil - end of tuned circuit - if the measured
current is due to a tuned circuit, opening the circuit should
stop the resonance and affect the current anyway. This is not
observed to happen. Build this critter and see if you can expand
the observed results.
.
P.S., Norm has been able to coax the LEDs to light with a TOTAL
circuit current of 2.5 ma! That's combined power to the LED's,
and both chips. I can't get below 7.5 ma. He's using a much
different coil than I. I'd be much interested in hearing what
results you get. >> Bert
--------------------
NOTE: This message has been FORWARDED to Norman Wootan by
Bert Pool on 02/11/94 at 10:43
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Message 4867 DATE/TIME: 02/11/94 01:26
From : BERT POOL -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN (FORWARDED)
Subject: Fire Fly 3
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to JERRY DECKER
and was forwarded to you by Bert Pool on 02/11/94 at 10:42
--------------------
Jerry, my third attempt to load this. Please forward to other "D"
associates for me. Thanks - Bert
.
Don't you just hate to dial into Keely Net and find that the
board has been dead and no one's posted anything? Well, a
lot's been going on, and those of us who've been iced in here in
Dallas have put the unexpected days off to good use. Read and
enjoy. Better yet, you'd best warm up your soldering iron!
.
1) an unexpected interruption from Lee Trippett
.
A few days ago Lee Trippett sent us a diagram for a simple pulse
circuit which was supposed to dump a pulse of current into a coil
and then connect a load to the isolated coil (collector) to
extract any over-unity power, ala Tom Bearden - minus the
degenerate power conductor. Lee had gotten some incredible meter
readings which showed very high input-to-output power ratios. A
couple of us here in Dallas immediately stopped whatever
experiments we had in progress and built a couple of these
devices. Independent confirmation found the current readings
were erroneous due to the fact that the circuit had the
experimenter try to measure micro to nano second wide pulses with
current meters designed to measure steady-state d.c. Fast
oscilloscopes showed no real power gain. I dismissed the circuit
as an excellent but faulty try, and then I went back to my work.
.
2) nose to the grind wheel
.
As many of you who follow the postings on this net know, I
proposed an experiment several days ago and invited comments: if
you connect a battery to a very long wire for 1 uSEC then
disconnect it, and you have an LED which is 4 uSECs away (several
thousand feet of wire), will the LED light up? Don't be too
quick to answer, for by the time the voltage potential gets to
the LED, the BATTERY WILL HAVE BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM THE CIRCUIT
FOR OVER 3 MICROSECONDS! Can an LED light up even when there is
no longer a battery supplying potential in the circuit? That's
what I was trying to prove. What is nice is that it is a yes or
no problem. You either have light, or you don't. The purpose of
the experiment is to determine whether a conductor can be
potentialized and power withdrawn without running down the
battery.
.
3) The ghost of TOD returns
.
The lesson learned from Trippett's attempt to measure pulses with
d.c. meters was still very fresh in my mind. I needed to measure
current accurately in MY circuit, so I set up my meter in the
d.c. power supply lead to my circuit, not in any area where
pulses were involved. Just to make sure stray pulses from my
oscillator (NE-555, the same as Lee's) didn't get back to the
meter through the power buss, I added several 0.01 ufd spike
suppressor capacitors to the power leads on the chips, and threw
in an extra 1,000 ufd across the main buss to really filter the
d.c. back to the meter. I damn sure was not going to have any
a.c. crap screwing up my current measurements! My 'scope showed
the prettiest 11.65 volt pure d.c. input power anyone could ask
for.
.
4) Wiring my test experiment - LOTS of wire!
In my test I originally was going to use two 5,000 foot 18 gauge
wires to perform my LED test. Norman Wootan found several
thousand feet of RG-5x coaxial cable, which is much easier to
use. The circuit was very simple: a 555 oscillator provided
pulses adjustable from 1 uSEC to 20 uSEC wide at a repetition
rate from a few hundred to several thousand pulses per second.
The 555 puts out a negative going pulse, and I wanted positive
pulses, so I fed tha 555's output into a CMOS CD-4001 NOR gate
wired to act as an inverter to give me positive going pulses. The
CD-4001 chip is nice for this work, because it can supply current
directly to an LED without needing any current limiting
resistors. I checked the output of the 4001 and had very, very
nice 1 to 20 uSEC pulses. Total circuit d.c. current, with no
LED was 7.8 milliamps. Plugging in the LED directly to the 4001
output caused the current to rise to 8.5 milliamps, and the LED
glowed nicely. I removed the LED and connected the end of a
4,300 foot length of coax to the output of the 4001. My scope
showed an expected drop in pulse amplitude and an increase in
current to 9.5 milliamps. Expected, because I had measured the
capacitance of the coax and found that between the inner
conductor and the outer shielded jacket the coax measured out at
0.047 ufd. This capacitance attenuated my pulse some, and loaded
the circuit, but not to an untoward degree. I measured the
total circuit current - total current going into the 555, the
4001, and the coax - and with NO LED load yet. Current was 9.5
milliamps. I then connected the LED to the far end of the coax.
.
4) The moment of truth
I had a 35 mhz dual trace triggered scope connected to each end
of the coax. I saw the 4001 put a 1 uSEC pulse of d.c. on the
near-end of the coax. Three uSECs later the pulse reached the LED
at the other end of the coax. THE LED LIT UP. EVEN THOUGH YOU
COULD PLAINLY SEE ON THE SCOPE THAT THE DRIVING POTENTIAL HAD
BEEN REMOVED FROM THE COAX SEVERAL MICROSECONDS PREVIOUSLY.
EXPERIMENT COMPLETE!
.
Wasn't that exciting!? Well, maybe some of you aren't real
exciteable. I know I didn't pee in my pants. Heck, I didn't
even dribble. Until I looked at my current meter. You remember
that carefully filtered, isolated meter which was measuring the
total power to the complete circuit? I knew already that the LED
wanted to pull about 0.5 ma current to light up. My unloaded
circuit was pulling 9.5 ma. Connecting the LED should have driven
the current up to somewhere near 10 ma. Not even .01 of one ma
more current flowed into the circuit to light up the LED! So
where the hell was the power to light the LED coming from? It
sure as heck wasn't coming through my meter from the power
supply! I connected and disconnected the LED several times. My
meter was registering current accurate to .01 of 1/000 of one
ampere. It never moved. It never saw the LED load. OK, I admit
that maybe I dribbled a little then!
.
I called Norm. He went to Radio Shack and got all the required
parts. I guided him over the phone on how to connect everything.
Only he didn't have any coax! It was all on my bench. But he
did have several thousand feet of wire on a spool. What the
heck, Lee Trippitt had tried to use a coil - we decided to
substitute Norm's spool of wire for the coax. Norm got the same
results as I did with the coax! Quickly, I disconnected my coax
and connected a spool of 3,300 feet of 22 gauge hookup wire I had
left over from my TOD experiment. My LED glowed as brightly as
ever. I found pulse width and frequency COULD be changed to
force an increase in my current meter. I could set a wider pulse
and finally get a response from my current meter when I removed
and inserted the LED. However, OPTIMIZING the pulse caused the
current in the circuit to DROP when the LED was plugged in!
Neither Norm or I could explain what we were seeing. Norm hooked
a second LED across the first LED on his device. Now he had TWO
glowing LEDS. His meter didn't move a digit. How many LED's can
we parallel before we start to use power from the supply? We
don't know yet. But two for sure!
Continued in next message.....................
.
===============================================================================
Message 4868 DATE/TIME: 02/11/94 01:28
From : BERT POOL -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN (FORWARDED)
Subject: Fire Fly 3
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to JERRY DECKER
and was forwarded to you by Bert Pool on 02/11/94 at 10:43
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Experiment continued.............
.
As as additional test, I placed the LED near a precision
photocell (which had a 2.2 ufd tantalum cap across it to filter
pulses into pure d.c.) and measured light output. The photcell
showed 0.303 volts. I then re-connected the LED through a
potentiometer to the d.c. power supply and set the pot so the
LED put out the same light as earlier driven by the coil.
I then disconnected/connected the LED and watched my power meter.
Yep, it moved 0.5 ma, just as Old Ampere would have expected. I
moved the LED back to the coil circuit. I connected/disconnected
the LED to the coil again. Nope, still NO additional current
flow, but THE LED LIT UP JUST AS BRIGHT! Ah Ha! Maybe the
secret was in the pulses! Maybe if I used pulses instead of pure
d.c. on the control pot test?! So I changed the pot connection
on the LED test driver from the d.c. buss to the 4001 pulsed
output and set the pot so the light output was the same as when
the LED was connected to the coil. When I unplugged the LED,
current dropped 0.5 ma. Ampere was happy. Voltaire was happy.
So, this test showed that it didn't make a damn bit of difference
whether the "control" test pot used d.c. or pulsed power! If I
connected the LED to continuous d.c. or pulsed d.c. I could see
the current to the circuit go UP when I connected the LED. But
NOT if I connected the SAME LED to the coil circuit! I had run
out of ideas. That LED was going to light up and pull no current
from my power supply whether I liked it or not.
.
5) You too can amaze your friends!
Jerry is putting the diagram on the net. Maybe five bucks worth
of parts. Less if you already built the TOD. A spool of wire. A
sensitive photocell is optional (heck, we'll let you borrow one
of ours if you want). There are no switching transistors
involved. Please build one of these and start with a narrow
pulse, about 400 to 600 hertz repetition rate. Slowly increase
pulse width until the LED glows. Make note of the current on
your current meter. Disconnect your LED. The current meter
SHOULD show a significant drop in power when you remove the load.
It won't. Plug the LED back in. It lights up. Current should go
up. It does not. Nifty, huh?
.
Norm thinks a resonance effect is taking place within the
coil/coax. I agree. Perhaps the coil or coax IS forming a tuned
circuit, and the LED is only an insignificant part of the circuit
current....BUT that LED is in SERIES with the coil! Open the LED
and you open the coil - end of tuned circuit - if the measured
current is due to a tuned circuit, opening the circuit should
stop the resonance and affect the current anyway. This is not
observed to happen. Build this critter and see if you can expand
the observed results.
.
P.S., Norm has been able to coax the LEDs to light with a TOTAL
circuit current of 2.5 ma! That's combined power to the LED's,
and both chips. I can't get below 7.5 ma. He's using a much
different coil than I. I'd be much interested in hearing what
results you get. >> Bert
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Message 4869 DATE/TIME: 02/11/94 10:44
From : BERT POOL
To : ALL
Subject: Fire Fly 3 diagram
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
I'm going to see if I can't use a paint editor to modify the TOD
diagram to show how to connect the CD-4001 and coil so that you may
check Norm's and my earlier observations. I'll try to upload it today,
Friday, early p.m. >> Bert
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Message 4871 DATE/TIME: 02/11/94 11:53
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : TOM HILKERT
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Tom! Done!...>>> Jerry
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Message 4873 DATE/TIME: 02/11/94 11:56
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : DON KIRCHER
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Kirchdroid! It has been a very long time and you are missed! I have
been through that area but it did not strike me as particularly
alluring, but as long as you are happy....you threw me there for a
minute when I read SKI, I thought it was an acronym for something
because of the full caps and I was trying to figure out what the hell
that high altitude had done to you...then read on and saw it was
something to do with sliding down snow....OK fine......well, good to
hear from you again and keep in touch...the meetings are definitely
getting out of hand and I think they will drop off as I pare the much
too freely delivered mailing list...so, you be good...>>> Jerry
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Message 4874 DATE/TIME: 02/11/94 12:05
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: (R) Fire Fly 3 diagram
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Bert! FASCINATING and yes I began drooling before even getting into
the second message!
Lee sent the graph for his battery usage and a letter and diagram with
explanation from Bearden that I will make you guys a copy of...it is a
bit different from Lee but explains this as an electron "heat
pump".....Well, I think Lee will respond this weekend if not
sooner...excellent work again!
I could not help but recall Bill Beaty's comment about electrons moving
like a slinky toy type spring...when you give them a hard shove, a WAVE
moves that temporarily displaces the electrons but they then return to
their natural position....the positive thrust of that wave is tapped
and a "check valve" is installed to prevent that positive thrust
reversing direction and SUCKING ENERGY BACK INTO THE CIRCUIT FROM THE
LOAD! So whence does this power come? From the "interstices of the
atomic/molecular structure...as per Keely"...kind of like Cooks
inertial drive engine, you take a rotary motion with a spring loaded
piston....at one point on the circle of rotation, you extend that
piston and slowly pull it back...this extension occurs ONLY at that
point, thereby creating an imbalance and thereby providing a thrust
FROM the rotation...a mechanical force translator (rotary to linear)...
Very interesting with the LED lighting after the power is "technically"
removed....kind of like this slinky kind of effect as Bill points
out.....again, excellent and thank you for sharing that experiment with
everyone...I need to print this out and study it, then build the
circuit myself....kickass stuff!!!...>>> Jerry
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Message 4879 DATE/TIME: 02/12/94 03:52
From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: LED coil
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I was going to drop this off as a note about the TOD circuit,
but I read messages first, and WOW. I have to try it. We
have 500' spools of twisted pair at work, and maybe a big spool
of microphone coax. If I had done this experiment, I would
have used a commercial signal generator, and would totally
have missed the strangeness in the current draw of the generator's
power supply. REAL scientists would use expensive store-bought
equipment rather than 555's, and so would be unable to notice
(or even measure) important data.
.
One thing I must ask: is your mA meter before or after the
filter capacitors in the supply? If the meter inserted
BETWEEN the capacitors and your circuit, then there is AC
current spikes going through the meter and maybe screwing
things up. If your filter capacitors are mounted on your
breadboard itself, and if the meter is inserted in series
with one lead coming from the separate power supply, then
everything should be OK. You probably are aware that
capacitors smooth out the DC voltage by allowing your
circuit to draw big glitches of current from the capacitors
(and so THROUGH the wires between the capacitors and your
circuit)
.
Oh, on the TOD circuit. It looks like both Q2 and Q3 could
be on at the same time at one edge of the square wave, thus
shorting the power supply directly to the load. This could
be where the tiny pulses of current are coming from. The
cure would be to build some kind of logic circuit to generate
a very fast sequence where the transistors turn on and off
alternately, but with an adjustable deadzone between their
signals to guarantee that both are off for a short time.
.
Also in TOD, if a current starts going in the collector coil
and then you turn Q2 off, the current WILL keep going because
of inductive kick, and will blow a path through the VFETs for
an instant. You might want to connect a high speed power diode
backwards across the collector coil. Then again, if there are
weird thing going on in the circuit, adding this diode might
just make the circuit behave "normally" and kill the interesting
stuff.
cc: Jerry Decker
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Message 4881 DATE/TIME: 02/12/94 03:55
From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: MPEG movies
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I just got hold of a copy of MPEGVIEW and finally was able to
look at the movies of the testatika device. Amazing! Not
the device (though its interesting) but the movies! It was
really weird seeing this wavering handheld camera view swerving
about on my PC screen. Have you seen MPEG stuff before? The
shareware is on internet, and the movie files can be had from
a Swiss computer address. They are big (200K - 600K), but a
couple of hundred K makes a movie thats longer than I would
expect, at least five seconds of smooth 400x600 animation.
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Message 4884 DATE/TIME: 02/12/94 08:18
From : MARK GRAALMAN -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: TESLAC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bert I uploaded a newer version of TESLAC give it a try!
Mark Graalman
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Message 4888 DATE/TIME: 02/12/94 12:39
From : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) Area 51
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hey Joel,
Thanks for the note, it's only about a three hour drive from where I am
to Las Vegas, and there is no cost other than the travvel expenses,
and hey I can just stop in Las Vegas and pick up a couple of grand at
the craps table to make my trip worthwhile. Serially......
looks like a group of interesting wierdos like myself, and that's
where it's at anyhoww, if we doens't matter if we
"seee" anything, just thee it's not
plann
thing. Comparing stories is lots of
fun too. sdr ;>
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Message 4889 DATE/TIME: 02/12/94 12:58
From : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL -- RECEIVED --
To : MICHAEL LORREY
Subject: (R) Electric Cars
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Michael,
Who was it that told us in the rearly 70's we were going to run
out of oil in ten years? where do you get you figures on gas?
from the same source? WhereWe have so much gas that the
companies that market it can't make a keep the
price high enouugh to make a good profit, supply and demenand and
all that. Are you always this skeptical? Do you believe the
"Washington State Energy Office" is telling you EVERYTHING?,
or just what they want you to believe? Maybe your right, at least
I can consider it. But I don't think so, I just know too much, and
my experience has taught me to be optimistic. You sound like
an intelligent fellow, and hopefully an open minded one too.
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Message 4890 DATE/TIME: 02/12/94 13:06
From : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL
To : LYNDA MCCLOSKEY
Subject: (R) Mental Programming for the Masses
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Lynda,
These things have ALWAYS bveen true, throughout history there have
always be ttime of darkness and times of enlightenment. I tend
to think that we are in a transistion right now, and having the
"vision" to see ican be disturbing, but that is one of the
responsibilties of haveing the "vision". You can "see" but
can't correct what you know is at fault. ThereIn the
"dark ages" there are always the "keepers of the light"
and I think that this is what is going on at this time.
Very possibleI read a book a few
years back "The Morning of thee Magicainsians" that really
keyed on this idea. I would recommend reading it to anyone with
an open mind, or who would like to have a more open mind.
Annyhow, hang in there you have come to the right place and
it's no accident.
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Message 4897 DATE/TIME: 02/12/94 15:01
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : BILL BEATY
Subject: (R) MPEG movies
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Bill! I have seen short segments of the MPEG stuff, though not of
Testatika as I have the video with the German voiceover. A neat way to
get out information RAPIDLY to a large number of folks and that is what
would interest me most....thus not having to make copies of tapes,what
a pain...>>> Jerry
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Message 4900 DATE/TIME: 02/12/94 15:09
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To : ROD FREDLUND
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Rod! And thanks for the positive comments...I don't think anyone
has taken steps to safeguard any of those papers...the best thing that
could be done would be to republish and openly distribute multiple
copies of such information to the greatest number of folks...
That is why much of Keely's works were "lost"....though I think with
some bucks and diligence much could be recovered regarding many of
these fellows, Keely, Tesla, Schauberger, Russell, etc....
Alas, much like those who complain about disease, taxes, government and
other societal ills, we of this community (F/E, anti-grav, disease
control, etc.) are just as disjointed and unfocussed...
People just won't put up money to make the changes, I don't know if it
from lack of trust, unwillingness to see the bigger picture, inability
to make ANY kind of donation or contribution, or some kind of mental
block.....
Just look at the TV preachers, raking in tens of millions per year and
where does that money go???
Could we not do something EXTREMELY POSITIVE and on multiple fronts
with such income?
It really hit me when we tried to get some folks together to drive down
to Waco and protest the ONGOING Davidian situation...and only about 8
people volunteered...those most vocal just said I don't have time, it
would not do any good or some other excuse....
Just so with the things we study, once again, the epithet "Ye shall
know them by their WORKS"...
I read something the other day regarding prayer, it can take one of
three forms.....depending on what you are wanting to happen.
Physical prayer - actually DOING something in the form of experiments
or work or building
Mental prayer - researching by reading, correlating or creative
thinking without actually doing anything to verify
what you think (like me and a good many others, I am
sad to say)
Spiritual prayer- communing with the intent of seeking higher guidance
when you can not come to a resolution by yourself,
this is what many people try without even considering
the physical or mental sides, this is the GIMME
approach, kind of like those who always have their
hand out, wanting you to help them, in this case, they
want a "higher force" to intervene and "save" them.
Geez, did not mean to go off on this, but the point is valid with
regard to the Tesla papers (and others) of equal or greater import.
So, until we all get organized AND COMMIT ourselves financially and
physically, little of this stuff will come to be except for occasional
glimmers of hope.....>>> Jerry
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Message 4902 DATE/TIME: 02/12/94 15:23
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL
Subject: (R) Mental Programming for the Masses
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Stephen! Peter Kelly has some fascinating ideas on why there are
"periods of darkness and periods of enlightenment".
He says matter is formed by electricity and bonded by
magnetism...electricity carries the information while magnetism
provides the force.
He is of the opinion and I have been working on a paper to prove it,
that the Earth's magnetic field waxes and wanes over the
centuries...when the field is weak, ideas are free flowing and change
is immanent with wars and new inventions and great societal changes.
As the magnetic field begins to intensify, those changes currently in
place become fixed, much more ingrained and rigid and thus almost
impossible to change.
We are currently in such a period which will inevitably be followed by
a period of ridigity, so we have to do all we can to make sure the
ideas, practices and principles ENCODED for the future are the best we
can possibly make a reality.....>>> Jerry
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Message 4903 DATE/TIME: 02/12/94 15:27
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To : TOM HILKERT
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Tom! Don't even worry about money....as to information, there are
lots of sources, several listed in CONTACT1, Rex Research, Borderland,
High Energy (Steve Elsewicke of Tesla), Health Research and many
others...many of the other groups provide newsletters which keep you up
on what all is going on and we will have some conference listings
shortly for you to plan for if you want to do something constructive
with your vacation <g>....In May of this year, the IANS (International
Association of New Science) will have their yearly gathering in Denver,
then in the last week of July, the ITS (international Tesla Society)
will have their meeting in Colorado Springs...IANS will have Bruce
Cathie up from New Zealand, and ITS will have John Searle from
England...both thus making it worth going....and then there is Dean
Stoniers Global Sciences Congress in Denver in the 2nd week of
August....good stuff for all...>>> Jerry
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Message 4904 DATE/TIME: 02/12/94 16:40
From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
To : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL
Subject: (R) Area 51
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Enjoy your table, oops...meant "trip"...
Joel
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Message 4908 DATE/TIME: 02/13/94 10:31
From : JIM SHAFFER -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) time travel
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Yeah, sounds like a scam to me too. He's quit offering the plans for
free and says they'll cost $700 from now on. Still haven't built the
thing, but I think I have a piezo around here somewhere.
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Message 4909 DATE/TIME: 02/13/94 10:34
From : JIM SHAFFER -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Re: Upload of JGRAY.ASC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
You know, I had pretty much the same thought about all these Ark claims
-- what if there's more than one of them?!
I think antlers and bones could survive for 4000 years if the
conditions were right. The site is frozen most of the time, isn't it?
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Message 4910 DATE/TIME: 02/13/94 10:37
From : JIM SHAFFER -- RECEIVED --
To : JOEL MCCLAIN
Subject: (R) Re: Upload of BST.ASC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I always thought this was just a clone of the real thing, so what's the
problem?
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Message 4911 DATE/TIME: 02/13/94 11:27
From : ARIE VANDENBERG
To : ALL
Subject: Silver Strangers BBS
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I'd like to invite you to check out the Silver Strangers BBS, offering
files on mysticism, phyisics, strange science, humor, spiritual
development, constit.rights, s/w, utils, etc. Number is 513-751-7515,
24hrs a day, 14.4k, free access. I'm sure you'll find SOMETHING you
like there. Hope to hear from you soon!
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Message 4914 DATE/TIME: 02/13/94 15:22
From : JOEL MCCLAIN
To : JIM SHAFFER
Subject: (R) Re: Upload of BST.ASC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Well, yes, sort of a chemical equivalent, except that when it was first
used, there was a controversy, especially after the dairy cows started
to drop dead...anyway, the details are in the file.
Joel
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Message 4915 DATE/TIME: 02/13/94 17:55
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Fire Fly 3
Folder : Z, "Comments to the Sysop"
Jerry: I went out and bought a printer today, an Epson LQ-570 +. It
is real nice and was only $246.00, on sale. While I was printing out
the message traffic on the latest Circuit experiments I noticed that
some are in AREA D SPECIAL ASSOCIATES and others are in A PUBLIC
FOLDER. Do you think it would be better if all this were in "A" PUBLIC
Folder so everyone could see it and possibly build the circuit. Just
asking. Norm
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Message 4920 DATE/TIME: 02/14/94 01:33
From : DON KIRCHER -- RECEIVED --
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I agree, Pueblo itself is gawd awful, in a North Texas sort of a
way....so **I** felt right at home here. These high plains make for
excellent Californian repellent. Not a tree as far as the eye can see
and damned little water. So yer average rich Californian housewife is
going to grab her hubby by the throat and say TAKE ME TO DENVER where
it is truely beautiful. Therein lies the true payoff. My rent dropped
65 bucks a month and I easily doubled my square footage (finished
basements herebouts). I can watch the high plains slope up into the
mountains (thirty miles distant) and Pikes Peak just about gives me
a hard on it is so beautiful. The distant mountain ridge at dusk has
faked me out repeatedly into believing that one hellova thunderstorm
was coming in from the west. In the mornings your can see the ridge
making weather in front of your eyes with orographic lifting, but it is
on the west side so Pueblo doesn't get **ANY** of the precipitation.
Colorado Springs, thirty five miles north gets it all. Last Friday I
watched an ominous buildup spilling around the ridge and heading
Northeast to dump MORE snow on the Springs. Pueblo had Blue skies.
Saturday my kids and I went **ROLLERBLADING** under blue skies and
temperatures in the fifties. It is actually warmer here than in
Dallas. But if you desire snow than you jump in the buggy and drive
to the Springs or to the mountains. The flip side of that must be
a concern about drought. Have to wait and see about that. When it
DOES snow here it only stays on the ground for a day or two. The
snow is so dry you couldn't pack a snowball if your life depended
on it. What can I say -- I'm stoked.
I noticed that Toby lives around here somewhere, and I seem to recall
that you came out here for the Tesla conference. If you make it out
this way stop in and stomp yer foot. I won't be hard to find here
in Tinytown Colorado. I'll be the one that is grinning from ear to ear!
Later
dlk
BTW you would not believe how many locals don't even know there are
mountains over yonder. I think they should all be banished to live
in Decatur. It is a crime to take such a treasure for granted.
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Message 4923 DATE/TIME: 02/14/94 08:45
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To : JIM SHAFFER
Subject: (R) Re: Upload of JGRAY.ASC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Jim! Yep, that is one of the things that rings true with David, he
is open to the idea that this might NOT be THE ark, but could possibly be
ONE of the arks...he bases this on the fact that many cultures have
this SAME LEGEND about a great ship which saved humanity and the
aminals....haven't heard from him and guess I'll have to drop him a
card and get the inside scoop...>>> Jerry
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Message 4925 DATE/TIME: 02/14/94 08:47
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : ARIE VANDENBERG
Subject: (R) cpu speed
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Arie! Well, KeelyNet ran on an XT with 286 accelerator card for
several years, up til last year when I put in a 286/16Mhz and there
seems to be no problems...it all really depends on what options you are
offering and what services....for me, I just want to be able to upload
and download, read and or insert/type messages...that does the
trick....however, you might go the game route...I think that is a waste
of a persons time, but to each his own....good luck and if I can help
you out, just give a hollar...
There are also several folks who access KeelyNet who could assist you
if you just drop a public message with the details....Bob Paddock,
Clark Matthews, Jim Shaffer, to name a few...>>> Jerry
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Message 4926 DATE/TIME: 02/14/94 08:51
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To : ROBERT BEVERIDGE
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Robert! And welcome to KeelyNet! There has been much discussion
about this, some in the message base and some on the phone and via
personal contacts....The Mars Observer episode is very odd, you might
give Liz a call at the Mars Network also here in Dallas, I have not
seen her lately but she would REALLY love to see your info as would we
should you come up with something tangible or that hints of what really
happened....well, you are free to take whatever you wish and I look
forward to your participation in the message base....>>> Jerry
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Message 4927 DATE/TIME: 02/14/94 08:54
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
To : NORMAN WOOTAN
Subject: (R) Fire Fly 3
Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
Hi Norm! Well, that is one of the problems with leaving messages NOT in
the public domain...I try to do so whenever I can but usually follow
the lead of whoever posted it as I hope they understand WHY there is a
D folder....
From what I have seen regarding this, I think it needs to be bundled in
a file and posted in that fashion for people to download...it would be
an excellent starter....
BTW, got some new data from Lee, I was kind of hoping you could make
the dinner with Rueben and I Saturday because we could make a copy of
it....but will make you a copy for the meeting...also a new patent (not
new to me but the guy claims it can be adapted to make a self running
magnetic motor??)...and one really kickass paper from Davidson....will
run you copies for the 17th....later...>>> Jerry
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Message 4928 DATE/TIME: 02/14/94 08:57
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To : SCOTT KIRK
Subject: (R) Security Error - Phone Number
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Scott! So that's why the house shook?? <g>.....OK, you know the
drift, it's just a system requirement that I have stretched to 50,
really does not mean much....hope you changed it...but I think it works
either way...>>> Jerry
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Message 4930 DATE/TIME: 02/14/94 09:06
From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To : DON KIRCHER
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hi Don! Yep, Toby used to live in Craig but I am not sure if he still
lives there, come to think of it, he did send me a change of address
with a note saying Bruce Cathie was going to speak at the IANS
conference in May....
Yep, no doubt we need to get together at the next conference...can come
up early if you don't wanna go to the conference and we can
"visit"....would be good to finally meet you despite the distance...I
think some of us are going to the IANS and the TESLA conferences this
year...so will warn you in time...>>> Jerry
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Message 4933 DATE/TIME: 02/14/94 13:01
From : VERONICA MARTIAN
To : ALL
Subject: Hopi / UN
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I'm looking for information on the Hopi people visiting the UN
Nov. 93. Thomas Banyacya relayed a message from his people &
will return for an answer 4mos., 4wks, and 4 days from meeting.
Any info on topic (other than prophecies) and/or where to go
for info would be greatly appreciated. Peace
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Message 4934 DATE/TIME: 02/14/94 16:44
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
To : BILL BEATY
Subject: (R) LED coil
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Bill, my filters are on the circuit board, so any noise has to get past
them to get to the meter, which IS in the power lead to the board. I
really don't see any garbage getting back to the meter - it is
measuring steady d.c. current. Your comments on Q2 and Q3 not having
any overlap in timing is absolutely correct - the circuit as is does
not have any that I measured. And, it would be quite difficult to add
an additional circuit between them to insert a few nanoseconds delay
between them (at least I think it would be difficult...if you want to,
please do so and send me a copy of your change - I'd like to try it.).
>> Bert
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Message 4935 DATE/TIME: 02/14/94 16:49
From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
To : MARK GRAALMAN
Subject: (R) TESLAC
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Mark, I'll check out your revision to TESLAC as soon as Jerry posts it
in the file area. BTW, I just received John Couture's new Tesla
program, and I am comparing it against his last version. I'll be
reporting on it soon. >> Bert
cc: Jerry Decker
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Message 4938 DATE/TIME: 02/15/94 04:14
From : DAVID CHAPA -- RECEIVED --
To : BERT POOL
Subject: (R) SHUNTS N STUFF
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAVE GOTTEN ANY SPECS ON THOSE UV LAMPS YOU
WERE TELLING ME ABOUT. I HAVE TWO SETS OF PLANS FOR MY DYE LASER. ONE
USES 1 FLASH TUBE AND USES 12 VOLTS INVERTED & MULTIPLIED THROUGH A
MODIFIED TV FLYBACK. IT'S PORTABILE BUT HAS A SLOW CHARGE TIME. THE
OTHER USES TWO 1200V, 200 MA TRANSFORMERES. IT USES A VOLTAGE DOUBLER
SO THAT EACH (OF TWO) LAMPS RUNS ON 2400V, 100 MA.
AT $99 EACH. I THINK I CAN REWIRE MY OLD DEAD NEON TRANSFORMERS
SECONDARY WITH THAT SPOOL OF 24 GAUGE WIRE. IT'S A TEN LB. ROOL AND
SHOULD BE GOOD FOR 577 MAMPS. I WORKED IT OUT AT 900 WATTS TO 2400V AT
375 MAMPS. THATS ALMOST DOUBLE I'M GUESSING IT WILL RUN 5 TO 10 PULSES
PER SECOND. I'LL NEED TO FIND A WAY TO COOL THE FLASHLAMP AT THAT
SPEED. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY JOULES PER INCH THE DYE NEEDS TO LASE.
RUBY NEEDS 150 AND YAG NEEDS 100 PLUS YAG HAS 10 TIMES THE OUTPUT AS
RUBY. THE WRITE UP SAYS THE DYE HAS A MILLION TIMES MORE OPTICAL
INTENSITY THAN HE-NEON LASERS. IT WOULD BE NICE TO RUN IT CONTINOUS
WAVE WITH YOUR LAMP OR LAMPS THAN PULSED. IT SAID IT WAS POWERFUL
ENOUGH TO BOUNCE A VISIBLE BEAM OFF THE MOON. LOOKS LIKE I'LL HAVE TO
DO SOME MORE RESEARCH FIRST AND SAVE SOME MONEY. CALL ME ABOUT THE
ROUND TABLE MEETING, SO I CAN GET THOUSE TAPES YOU MADE OF MY COIL.
HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE THIS TIME. BYE
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Message 4939 DATE/TIME: 02/15/94 07:32
From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE --
To : Jerry Decker (SYSOP)
Subject: Comment
Folder : Z, "Comments to the Sysop"
Jerry: I had typed you a message and before I could save it the phone
line disconnected so it was lost. What I had said was that I was not
planning on bringing any thing to the meeting other than a few
documents to put into the copy pool. I will get there at 5:00 to help
set up and assure that you have a place to sit at your own meeting.
You don't know what a hastle it is totry to reserve seats at the front
table for you, Guy, Bert, Joel, and myself. All the children want to
sit in teache's seat. HA! HA! Well I hope the children have more of an
attention span this time for they can't wait to begin socializing and
doing their own agenda items which are not within the original intent
and purpose of the meeting. Groan, Hope it turns out better this
time. Norm
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Message 4940 DATE/TIME: 02/15/94 11:05
From : BERT POOL
To : DAVID CHAPA
Subject: (R) SHUNTS N STUFF
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
David. I'll be at the Thursday meeting. I will bring you the two Tesla
tapes (one for you and one for Steve). I will also try and have some
specs on the UV lamps. All I will be able to provide are power
requirements - light output is unknown, both as to exact wavelength and
power output, although the " power in " can give you some idea of what
to expect out.
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Message 4941 DATE/TIME: 02/15/94 11:10
From : BERT POOL
To : DAVID CHAPA
Subject: Transformers for laser
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
By the way, the transformers you describe are almost identical to the
type used in microwave ovens. You can probably scrounge up a couple of
old ovens with blown magnatron tubes REAL cheap and use the
transformers from them in your laser project. Microwave ovens are one
of the few commonly available sources for moderately high voltage
transformers and power supply components available today.
>> Bert
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Message 4942 DATE/TIME: 02/15/94 13:25
From : ARIE VANDENBERG
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) cpu speed
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Thanks for the input. I thing I'm going to go with a 386-sx, with 4
megs ram. We'll see how it works out. See Ya.
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Message 4945 DATE/TIME: 02/15/94 23:00
From : LEE JONES
To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Greetz,
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Whew! you're right about people actually TRYING to screw up a good
thing..they are afraid or their bosses are afraid of ANY competition to
their "Scam"...
I had a weekend from hell...I installed a Local bus IDE/Floppy/I/O card
and when I booted the driver had a Trojan and i lost the hard drive's
contents...I been trying to recover everything but i probably lost 8
meg or so of un-backed up goodies, animations that i've been working
on, etc....Arrgghhhh....Anyone interested should BEWARE of :
ALARIS-PATRIOT II VL-BUS FLOPPY/IDE/IO CONTROLLER Driver ver. 1.19
enuf said!
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Message 4946 DATE/TIME: 02/16/94 00:23
From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
To : MICHAEL LORREY
Subject: Electric Cars
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Hello Michael. Based on your response to my statements about
electric cars I can see that you have strong feelings about
this topic too. Though I don't wish to make this board a
platform for what could become a political debate, I do feel
that some of your statements require rebuttal. Firstly let me
state that many of your arguments are basicly correct within
a given context, but there are some flaws in some of your logic.
The availability of fuel for a fossil fuel powered electric
power generating plant is irrelevent in my view as regards
the merit af an electric vehicle. What is true of the
availability of natural gas is equally true of the reserves
of gasoline for cars. It is not my point to nitpick on the
actual number of years left. They will both run out all too soon.
Now don't get me wrong, I love cars probably as much as anyone,
and I am not in favor of any kind of laws mandating that cars
must be electric.
I do not understand how you came to the conclusion that the
existence of electric autos will be a "significant negative
impact" on our economy and way of life. You did not hear me
say "get rid of the fossil fuels". That will be a moot point
however when they are all used up anyway.
Your efficiency numbers for electric cars are basicly correct for
the electric of yesterday, the converted volkswagen rabbit etc.
These cars use primitive low voltage motors and couple them to
inefficient gearboxes designed for gas cars. They have no
sophisticated power management electronics like the cars being
designed today. Modern electric car designs use high efficiency
electronic controls and brushless AC motors directly driving the
wheels without the need for a gearbox. Highly aerodynamic body
designs and light weight materials are now benefitting gas and
electric autos alike.
As for the cost of replacing every vehicle in America with an
electric, your logic escapes me. America will replace all of
its vehicles anyway every 15 years or so! If I am going to
purchase a new car anyway, I don't mind being given the option
of buying my new car as gas powered or electric. Your statement
that reduced range and performance adds to operating costs does
not follow. Studies show that electric vehicle fleets can be
operated more economicly than other types, and there is a
significant decrease in the maintenence costs.
You are correct in your concern over the disposal of lead-acid
batteries. Although there are other battery types and electric
sources, the lead acid battery is likely to be chosen for the
majority of EVs for the near future. Hydrogen fuel cells are a
more favorable alternative, or even Nickel-iron batteries.
However, every car already has one lead-acid battery and there
are laws regulating the proper disposal and recycling of them.
Every business that sells batteries must accept the old one back,
and it has to be recycled. This would have to be gradually
increased as electrics phase in, and strictly adhered to, as
regards proper disposal.
I too have a friend who builds (converts) electric cars for a
living, and he doesn't think that solar panels are usefull
either. And he too, doesn't know what he's talking about. I
don't consider solar panels mounted on the vehicle to be the
sole source of power. You can have quite a lot more of them on
the roof of your house than on the roof of the car though.
Industrial grade solar panels are tough! They are just as
sturdy as the glass windows that cover a third of your car,
and not much more expensive to replace. You have to think of
panels mounted on the vehicle as a 'fuel savings' device.
Think of it as though it were a new accessory for your car that
gave you better 'gas mileage'.
You did not hear me say that natural gas does not pollute, so
I guess that's just something you wanted to get off your chest.
Look, I think that the public deserves to be informed about the
truth regarding electric cars and so your comments are
important, but I think that you represent the extremely negative
viewpoint and so I felt that it was necessary to provide a
balance to that. Let everyone decide for themselves. Besides,
market forces and fuel issues will push the issue sooner or
later. I do not wish to write again regarding the pros and cons
of the issue. My focus is rather on the advanced technology
aspect, which I think reflects the interests of others here.
Lets not get off on a tangent about political aspects of this
issue. Electric cars ARE the future. So if you want to be
involved, let's figure out how to do it right!
-Respectfully, Gerald O'Docharty
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Message 4949 DATE/TIME: 02/16/94 02:06
From : MICHAEL LORREY
To : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL
Subject: (R) Electric Cars
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Yes Steve, I do consider myself to be optimistic. However I am pretty
well informed on this area as energy conservation is my business. I am
quite familiar with the personnel at the WSEO on a personal level and
respect their integrity and expertise. WHile there are a lot of people
out there CLAIMING this and that, most never produce. Either its
because they are frauds who are trying to con some gullible investors,
or they honestly can't make something cost effective on an economic
level, or they suffer from self pride and greed and insist on keeping
control of their creation to the detriment of its effective use for the
good of all. I was approached by some people who are into a free energy
device that seems to work on paper. Unfortunately they were supposed to
have a test two weeks ago of this, but it never happened, and are not
retruning my calls. THey also insist on only putting up 1.5% of the
stock in the company for sale in a private offering.
The only time I have seen advances actually come to fruition is when
someone who knows what they are doing can develop something that
actually works as more than a laboratory curiosity, more as a pre
production prototype, but is not to arrogant that they don't understand
that while good ideas are a dime a dozen (even though each is unique)
money is generic, and doesn't care where it get invested, so long as a
decent retrun for the risk is given. Many of these claims are made by
people who are independently minded. As inventors, they would have to
be to get anywhere, that is true and should not be disparaged, but they
themselves must have an equivalent respect for the power of money and
what money can do for their inventions, so long as the money is given a
return on investment that is commensurate with the risk involved. I
have personal experience with this.
I invented a retrofit kit for exit signs which uses only 1/3 of one
watt and lasts for over 30 years with no lamp changes. The economic
and environmental benefits of this are incredible. I unfortunately had
no money whatsoever. I formed a development and marketing company with
two equal partners (three of us total) giving me 33% of the stock in
the company. They supported me in my efforts to develop prototypes,
test market the prototypes, do an indepth analysis of the test market
efforts, get a Fortune 500 company to manufacture the product and
absorb all of their development and tooling costs, and now I am
marketing this product with these two partners throughout the western
US. The manufacturer gained the rights to the product itself in
exchange for this arrangement, while we have a long term contract to be
the exclusive west coast marketers of this product. As a result of this
arrangement, I expect to make seven figures this year, even though I
own only one third of essentially a marketing contract for one product
in a limited geographic area.
I have a quote I learned form this experience,"I would rather have a
peice of something than all of nothing."
I have many other inventions that I want to develop, but they are all
worth nothing if nobody invests in them to bring them to fruition. If I
can't pay for this development, then someone else is the one really
taking the risk since they are risking their wealth, while the inventor
is only risking his time.
Back to the electric car issue:
While many people may claim incredible efficiencies, they are usually
not counting the entire system efficiency, only the basic engine. They
are also not considering other impacts of their technology, a failing
which many engineers throughout history have been guilty of.
Just like high tech batteries which allow great range and power ( but
cost thousands of $ more than lead acid on a per kwa basis) high
efficiency solar technology is also expensive beyond commercial
fealibility. The new thin film solar technology may allow the cost per
kwh to drop to as low as 15 cents, but the efficency of these cells is
only about 12-15 %, they are just cheap to make. For a car, there is a
major limitation of usable area, so cell efficiency is very important.
the gallium arsnide dual mode layered cells which have an efficiency of
33% can almost meet the need for cars, but they are SO expensive that
the cost per kwh is still up in the 40 cent range, making it quite
uneconomical for this time. In twenty years, inflation should raise the
cost of electricity per kwh while new manufacturing technology shoul
dlower the cost per cell to the point of break even for this
technology. So it MAY happen, just not now as its not worth the cost.
The main reason why electric cars just don't pan out at this time in
history is because of economics rather than engineering.
Mike
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Message 4950 DATE/TIME: 02/16/94 08:13
From : NORMAN WOOTAN
To : ALL
Subject: New Energy News
Folder : A, "Public Mail"
Yesterday I received the Feb. issue of New Energy News in which a
review of the 5 ZPE Theory Papers that have been published in Physical
Review was presented by Editor, Hal Fox. This last and most important
paper is by Bernhard Haisch, Alforso Reuda, & Harold E. Puthoff, "
Inertia as a Zero-Point Field Lorentz Force," Physical Review A, Feb
1994, 34 manuscript pages, 44 references. Go to your library and rwead
this document unless you want to be lost in the dust of ZPE progress.
The up-coming INE conference at Denver 13-15 May will be one that any
research minded individual just cannot miss. The speakers will be:
Robert Adams - Adams Motor/generator; Harold Aspden - Ferromagnetics;
Bruce Cathie - Harmonics; Bruce DePalma - "N" machine; Shiuji Inomata -
"N" machine; Stephan Marinov - Perpetuum Mobile; Harold Puthoff - Zero
Point Energy; John Searle - Anti-Gravity; Paramahamsa Tewari - Space
Power Generator; Dennis Weaver - Ecology/Economics. Don't miss it.
Norm
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On 2/5/2019 7:37 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
> To all, I have thousands of files from the very interesting days of
> the Keely-Net BBS on which we discussed every subject related to ,
> well, almost everything. In this dialog pay attention to the
> messages that deal with the propagation of electrons along a
> conductive line and especially Bill Beaty's Cease of motion wave. Lol
> Long file but well worth you time reading it. Norm Back in the 80s
> and 90s, I logged down, daily all the messages that transpired so as
> to maintain a record of our discussions. Since I was in all levels of
> research on the BBS, my files have all discussions except the Z level
> which is strictly SYSOPS, Jerry Decker.
>
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>
> Message 4125 DATE/TIME: 01/07/94 22:04
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: (R) Hal Puthoff Paper
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Joel! GREAT! Haven't seen that one but it correlates with the one
> by Bearden from Sept. 93 that I got this week, will type it up this
> weekend...THANKS...>>> Jerry
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>
>
> Message 4126 DATE/TIME: 01/07/94 23:54
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Neutral Spike
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> OK folks let's start some real controversy for I have a theory that
> has been bothering me for a long time and is based on real world
> experience and not just idle thinking. In my day to day work I deal
> with rather large electric motors of the type that utilize large start
> and run capacitors such as is found in air conditioning equipment etc.
> On many occasions I have witnessed these motors release extremely high
> voltage and high amperage pulses or spikes whenever we try to start
> this type of motor in a locked or semi-locked rotor condition. What I
> am going to describe is the controversial point and that is the fact
> that the observed high voltage spike that is very destructive to all
> electronic equipment is actually coming from the neutral side of the
> line or the earth ground bonding. I have seen motors nearby that are
> turned off actually run backwards. Since these motors were of shaded
> pole design this suggest that a very unusual form of electricity is
> responsible for this phenomenon that is negative electricity. See the
> shaded pole motor can only run one direction based on it's design
> unless you provide extra shading windings to provide for reversal or
> some other phenomenon such as negative current could run it backwards.
> Another clue as to the presence of negative electricity is the fact
> that large switches and contactors have their contacts either
> completely destroyed or welded together by large currents at high
> voltage carried over relatively small wires. What is going on here has
> been eluded to by many researchers in the past such as Tesla when he
> said that the key to free energy was in IRON for it was a unique
> element that has 4 free electrons in the M shell of the atom that can
> be bounced free for use to be replenished from the ether. He stated
> that a free energy device would be based on a fine grade of steel to
> take advantage of this unique feature of iron. Dr. Tewari in his book
> "Beyond Mater" brings out the same fact and is the heart of the famed
> "N Machine". The best source of an insight as to how this works is
> found in Dr. Harold Aspden's presentation to the IANS Conference of
> 1993 titled "The World's Energy Future". In this paper Aspden outlines
> what occurs when you bring an iron mass to magnetic saturation and allow
> it to relax. A release of ZPE or ZERO POINT ENERGY comes out of the
> iron. Yule Brown says it best, "We should think everything backwards
> in this field of free energy". The backwards thinking comes into play
> in the fact that when the free electrons in the M shell of the iron
> atoms are freed they flow out of the iron itself therefore are present
> in the neutral or earth bond side of the circuit and not in the hot or
> supply side of the conventional circuit. When you excite atoms to a
> high electron state and allow them to return to ground state they
> release photons of energy but retain their original energy levels with
> no degradation therefore the energy that was lost by photon emission
> has been replaced from space vacuum or ZPE. The key releasing the 4
> free electrons in each iron atom is in the degree of magnetic
> saturation that occurs in our device design. I have read several
> papers in the Keely files that incorporate magnetic saturation of iron
> in the basic design of the device such as the Gray Motor that used
> bucking opposing magnetic fields to pop the iron electrons free. The
> error most researchers are making is that they are looking for the
> energy manifestation to occur in the conductors associated with the
> design but should be looking at the ground or earth bond side of the
> circuit. See, all electric motors have a bonding or ground wire
> attached to the iron stator in most cases is the neutral side of the
> input line. I hope that this input to the free energy puzzle will
> prompt some massage of gray matter and maybe we can build the future
> machine we have all been looking for. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4127 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 02:25
> From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) Time Dialation Experiments
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Long ago I heard about the possibility that Tesla coils
> may change the flow of time around them, so I considered
> building a timewarp meter based on crystal oscillators.
> You might want to consider doing this. You'd end up with
> a handheld device which would give IMMEDIATE indications of
> changes in time flow. You could wave the thing around your
> rotating masses and directly detect any anomolous effects.
> .
> I never did build this device, so I don't know how easy
> it would be to get working. Put a pair of quartz crystal
> oscillators into opposite ends of an oblong shielding box, run
> them off batteries, add the outputs (or XOR them), and send
> the result to a freq counter (or to a speaker.) Throw a
> trimmer cap across one crystal, and adjust it so the beat note
> is listenable. Anything that slightly changes the freq of one
> crystal, or changes both but by different amounts, will change
> the output. If you're lucky, you won't need temperature controls
> on the box to stop drift from body heat, etc. That's the whole
> thing. Using 30mhz crystals, you could probably detect a timeflow
> change of a few millionths of a percent. Since the oscillators
> are arranged along a certain axis, you could even use the device
> to map out the shape of any timewarp field that you detect.
> .
> What do you think?
> .
> -Bill B.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4128 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 09:02
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Neutral Spike
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Now for some additional notes on the subject of neutral spikes or ZPE
> occurrences let's look at the all too familiar Tesla coil what is so
> popular because of the splendid fireworks display they produce. Tesla
> said that in order to do effective work a large coil should not produce
> sparking or a corona discharge about the elevated capacitance. ????????
> Your immediate response is, have is the work taped and where is it
> occurring? Well Mr. Tesla clearly stated that the whole purpose of
> designing a device that would operate at full free resonance at the
> earth natural frequency of 7.83 HZ (he used 8 HZ in his day) was to
> produce a power wave that would pump electrons directly in and out of
> the earth via a deep grounding system that was firmly attached to the
> earth. I have talked to many tesla coil builders and have found not
> one who was interested in exploring the ZPE pumping of electrons
> directly in and out of a deep earth ground such as Tesla had planed to
> use at Wardencliff, Long Island. If you read carefully such documents
> as D.C. Cox "Modern Resonance Transformer Design" you will find clearly
> stated that a deep or good earth ground is necessary and this conductor
> must be a cable of substantial size for a considerable current of earth
> pumped electrons does occur when the coil is operating at full free
> resonance. He states that if an attempt is made to earth ground a coil
> with zip cord it will result in a burned up ground wire. Well I might
> be dense or otherwise afflicted but this sure sounds like ZPE tapping
> to me. Why can't Tesla coil builders out there explore this phenomenon
> to determine the over-unity aspects of a Tesla coil that is operated at
> full resonance and better yet modulate one to get an earth resonant
> power wave of approximately 7.83 HZ. I say approximately for I don't
> think anyone has successfully nailed down the exact earth resonant
> frequency as of yet. This figure is close enough for government work
> at this time or until someone comes up with a more precise figure. I
> belabor the point for out there lies those who will say, "You missed
> the freq by .01 HZ", You know them as pain in the ass nit-pickers.
> Keep the focus on the over-unity aspects and not on precise detail. I
> have tossed this out on the table of debate so as to prompt input from
> the many out there who have taken the well spent time to study the
> basic Tesla coil designs parameters and can give us back some
> meaningful input. Let's hear or read some feed-back from the depths
> of this KeelyNet. Your friend Norm.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4129 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 10:40
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Neutral Spike
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norm! EXCELLENT cubed!!!
> The grounding is similar to what the Rogers underground communication
> system says must happen...that an energy is inside the planet and be
> modulated just like slapping the surface of water, except in this
> instance it's more like a hydrophone (underwater speaker/microphone for
> those who don't know what a hydrophone is).
> Anyway, as I understood Tesla, he said the Earth could be pumped up
> like a large capacitor and it was done at the resonant frequency
> (around 8HZ, depending on which version of the Schumann peaks one wants
> to use) of the Earth. The waves of this energetically vibrating
> planetary capacitor would thus form peaks and valleys. By tuning to
> this frequency and adjusting so the phase was matched, one could thus
> tap the energy. I was always puzzled by the Colorado Springs
> experiment where farmers and citizens for miles from the site
> complained of drawing arcs from the ground to their feet as they
> walked. This is what made me regard the Earth as power source
> experiments irrelevant, i.e. because with all the electronics we have
> now, it just would destroy everything...
> However, your premise that iron is the secret to tapping the negative
> force flow makes sense in many ways which we can discuss in person.
> Interesting that some of the UFO reports said Earth was considered a
> treasure house BECAUSE OF IRON...a rare element in the galaxy???
> Perhaps Iron has the relaxation effect Bearden writes about, but I
> think you are more down to earth with the 4 electron
> description...something we can measure and work with NOW, until the
> optimum relaxation time material shows up through experiment or
> calculation.
> You know, Moray's device also required a very long ANTENNA and the
> deeper the ground, the more power he could tap...perhaps the earth has
> shells of varying power densities.
> But your message is definitely worthy of conversion to a file....>>>
> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4130 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 10:51
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: (R) Time Dialation Experiments
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bill! What an interesting approach! And it makes sense and should
> be easy to build, in effect a VCO using a crystal as the detector,
> sounds very familiar except this one is being used to detect the time
> variations...what was it they used way back, ah yes, the THEREMIN, with
> a capacitive plate as the detector...as you wobbled your hand above the
> plate, the capacitive variations would cause the frequency to change,
> thus providing "music" for the "silent movies" in early film days.
> And this is a scanner for just such fields...excellent!...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4132 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 12:37
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: Tesla fed to bucking coils
> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>
> Hi Bert,
> Curiosity drive us to try strange things, and then to wonder about what
> we see as a result.
> I built two bucking coils from coax, as in the TRANSLRT file, except
> using coax, and center fed the coax with the Tesla secondary outout,
> and no connection to either shield. Measuring field strength with an
> analog meter, I noticed that the meter would rotate CCW...not the
> movement, but the whole meter. So, checked with a magnetic needle
> compass, and found that the compass will rotate twice for each rotation
> around the bucking coils.
> Also, the output of the Tesla seems more stable, and if bucking couil
> theory is correct, a large omnidirectional scalar wave is being
> created, possibly suitable for a communication application.
> Wanted to share that with you, and look forward to your opinions.
> CUL
> Joel
>
> cc: Jerry Decker
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4134 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 14:01
> From : DENNIS BARFOOT
> To : ALL
> Subject: efficient batteries
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> A while back I read an article about Hal Puthoff anhis group
> doing research with spark gap generators and their claim that
> when electrons are forced together tightly enough they bond to each
> other instead of repelling and form something like a fluid plasma
> which has different characteristics than ordinary electricity.
> Anyway it occurred to me that this might be the answer to storing
> large amounts of energy in batteries for electric cars and what have
> you. Perhaps electricity in this form could be stored in some form of
> insulated tank and tapped off as needed. Just a thought to throw out
> there and see if anyone else has some input on this.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4135 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 17:06
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : DENNIS BARFOOT
> Subject: (R) efficient batteries
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> What Hal says is, "By using the attractive Casimir force between layers
> to overcome a repulsive electrostatic force, the foliated conductor can
> be greatly compressed, thereby storing charge at high electrostatic
> potential".
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4136 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 18:05
> From : BILL BEATY
> To : ALL
> Subject: Black Hole ANtenna
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> The Tesla Book Company advertises a videotape by J.F. Sutton and G.C.
> Spaniol, THE BLACK HOLE ANTENNA, 1992, VHS for $29.95. If you need
> the address, it is: TESLA BOOK CO., PO Box 121873, Chula Vista, CA
> 91912, 1-800-398-2056.
> .
> Is anyone familiar with this circuit? I want to find out if it is
> similar to the artificial superconductor device I built based on
> a magnetic detector driving an electromagnet in a negative feedback
> loop. This device repels all surrounding magnets, regardless of
> polarity, and can levitate bar magnets just like superconductors
> do. I see that if a large pair of coils were used in the feedback
> circuit, the result would be a large-area magnetic field sensor
> with a frequency response going down to DC. Is this how the
> "Black Hole Antenna" works? If so, it's another one of those cases
> of simultaneous invention! And yet a third similar device is
> patented: 4,910,633.
>
> cc: Norman Wootan
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4137 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 18:05
> From : BILL BEATY -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN (CARBON COPY)
> Subject: Black Hole ANtenna
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to ALL
> and a CARBON COPY was sent to you.
> --------------------
> The Tesla Book Company advertises a videotape by J.F. Sutton and G.C.
> Spaniol, THE BLACK HOLE ANTENNA, 1992, VHS for $29.95. If you need
> the address, it is: TESLA BOOK CO., PO Box 121873, Chula Vista, CA
> 91912, 1-800-398-2056.
> .
> Is anyone familiar with this circuit? I want to find out if it is
> similar to the artificial superconductor device I built based on
> a magnetic detector driving an electromagnet in a negative feedback
> loop. This device repels all surrounding magnets, regardless of
> polarity, and can levitate bar magnets just like superconductors
> do. I see that if a large pair of coils were used in the feedback
> circuit, the result would be a large-area magnetic field sensor
> with a frequency response going down to DC. Is this how the
> "Black Hole Antenna" works? If so, it's another one of those cases
> of simultaneous invention! And yet a third similar device is
> patented: 4,910,633.
>
> cc: Norman Wootan
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4138 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 18:12
> From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: Time Dialation Experiments
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> I wonder if modern "Accutron" watches are the same as the ones
> used to detect the time effects. I seem to recall that the
> old "Accutron" watches did not use a quartz crystal, but that
> instead they used a tiny tuning fork with tiny weights on the
> ends of its "tines". Am I wrong? If not, it's possible that
> this type of watch would loose seconds while a crystal-oscillator
> based watch would not. Most crystal oscillators dont run in a
> flapping/bending mode, but vibrate as a skewing across the
> thickness of a thin plate. A real tuning fork would exhibit
> gyroscope-like effects, while a standard quartz oscillator
> would not.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4141 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 19:53
> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: (R) Time Dialation Experiments
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Bill, your suggestion for using two heterodyning oscillators is a good
> one. I may work on just such a device soon. Right now, I am preparing
> to prove to myself that electric current actually flows from negative
> to positive in an electric circuit, and also to measure the actual
> speed of propagation of this current through a copper conductor. I
> will use a conductor 10,000 feet long to perform this measurement.
> Question: If you take a 10,000 ft. long conductor and place an LED at
> a position 3,000 ft down the negative lead, one at 5,000 ft. and a
> third at 7,500 ft., and connect a battery will:
> (a) the LEDS will light sequentially, negative to positive
> (b) the LEDS will light simultaneously
> (c) the LEDS will light sequentially, positive to negative?
> The LED's, by the way, are in SERIES so that current has to flow
> through all three to return to the battery.
> The real interesting part of the experiment will follow this
> measurement. I calculate that a pulse cannot take less than 10.17
> microseconds to travel the 10,000 ft. path, negative to positive on the
> battery. If I connect the battery to the wire for 1 microsecond then
> disconnect it (i.e., a very short pulse), will the LED light up for 1
> microsecond? Think carefully! Because by the time the pulse gets to
> the LED, the battery is NO LONGER CONNECTED to the battery. If the
> battery is not connected to the wire, how can current flow through the
> LED? I'm interested in what your guess is on all this, and anyone
> else's ideas are welcome as well.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4142 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 20:11
> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: (R) Tesla fed to bucking coils
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Joel, this Tesla coil driving bucking coils is interesting. How about
> bringing this setup and the field strength meter & compass to the next
> round table and demo? It is a bit hard for me to visualize it, and I'm
> sure all present would love to see this! >> Bert
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4143 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 20:14
> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
> To : DENNIS BARFOOT
> Subject: (R) efficient batteries
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> I love the idea of a fluid electron storage medium! Good note! >> Bert
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4145 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 21:13
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : DENNIS BARFOOT
> Subject: (R) efficient batteries
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Dennis! Yes, that is primarily the work of Ken Shoulders, he has a
> patent that spans 85 pages describing this technology and its
> applications.
> An interesting side note that correlates strongly with this reversal of
> roles on a macro level...
> When macro size magnets are placed together with like poles, they
> REPEL...however, on very tiny magnets on the order of grains, the
> property does exactly the opposite and like poles ATTRACT! I thought
> this was quite bizarre behavior and perfectly fits Ed Leedskalnins
> papers on the Magnetic Current....Leedskalnin is the fellow who built
> the Coral Castle down in Homestead Florida. It is claimed he levitated
> the stones by using song or some other force which he never revealed.
> There is much here despite the guffaws of the less credulous
> <g>...would be nice to get some of Ken Shoulders work here on the board
> should anyone wish to type it in.
> Ken and his wife visited with me and Dan Davidson a few years back
> after Church pulled out of the partnership, and Ken and his son were at
> the IANS conference in Denver. He really has something with this EV
> technology and it will lead to many commercial and consumer
> applications if he can ever get a trustworthy group of investors and/or
> companies to prototype, manufacture and sell machines based on it.
> >>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4146 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 22:17
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) Tesla fed to bucking coils
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bert,
> I can bring it, but Jerry has a lot of other material, videos, etc., so
> if you want, I'll bring it to your place and set it up, and measure it,
> etc. Moew time for questions, that way.
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4147 DATE/TIME: 01/08/94 22:20
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: Ground Spikes
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norm,
> I used to live in Spain, and there, they ground the NEUTRAL side of the
> line, becuz spikes which originate there can blow both wiring and xfmrs.
> I think that you are asking the same questions which Ed Gray asked,
> before he used the inductive spikes from low DC to charge to high DC in
> capacitors, and discharge to drive his patented over-unity motor. It
> was how the coilbak was designed to work, based on Ed Gray's work.
> Tesla first had to convert his output to sine wave, no easy task, and
> then use a mechanical pendulum to modulate it at 8Hz, becuz elec.
> timers run fast in the tachyon field. I've seen that, even with my
> little coil. Having done that, however, he could resonate earth and
> boost his output, as well as transmit power without wires.
> We "little Teslas" would have to do the same thing, on a smaller scale,
> to get earth resonance.
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4149 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 01:28
> From : JOHN SKAGGS -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: (R) Comment
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Thanks Jerry, and I have one quick Q. Do you or Vanggard have a copy of
> "Reality Revealed", by Vogt and Sultan? back soon!
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4150 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 10:54
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Neutral Spike
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Joel: read your reply and wish to clarify a few points such as I
> probably have in my library the largest collection of Tesla related
> documentation for I have been studying him for the last 10 years. Yes
> I am fully aware of how Tesla modulated his coil to get the 8 HZ power
> wave. Kovack in the ESJ article back in Sept. brought up some very
> interesting ideas about high voltage and high freq rectification so as
> to provide a ultra high voltage DC electrostatic charge in the elevated
> terminal capacitance that could easily be converted into a beautiful
> 8HZ sine wave by the use of a large period pendelum such as Tesla
> employed at Colorado Springs. Besides the mercury tube rectifier that
> Kovack outlined in ESJ there is another method of high voltage/ high
> freq rectification that Tesla patented which is easier to achieve and
> could be applied to your small coil for research purposes. Look at
> Tesla's Patents on AC/DC rectification in the volume on TESLA PATENTS.
> A totally magmetic method of AC rectification which is simple and can
> be applied to any voltage or freq. I did not ask a question but
> instead tried to lay out some evidence as to the correct approach to a
> vexing problem of solving the over-unity puzzle. Your friend Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4151 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 11:20
> From : JIM SHAFFER -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: (R) OK, who blabbed?
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Something must be going on... this is the same publication in whose
> 1993 edition there was a report on the first balloon ascent in America
> in which it was discovered that a magnet got weaker as it got farther
> from the earth... Also, their weather forecast has been exactly right
> for my area so far (but we're only 9 days into the year.)
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4152 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 11:36
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: Re: Upload of LEVITAT1.ASC
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> LEVITAT1.ASC is a description and "home demonstration" of anti-gravity
> using Keely's neutral centers, based upon earth's magnetic grid lines,
> and also discusses how this form of levitation was used to build
> pyramids, the Coral Castle, etc. Also, implications are given with
> reference to the gravitational anomalies caused by free energy
> machines, when the neutral center of a mass is resonated. Oh yeah, the
> Bermuda Triangle is explained, too. You'll have to try it to believe
> it, but it works.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4153 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 11:49
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Neutral Spike
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Joel: some additional food for thought, study the Wardencliff Tower
> that was almost complete when the financial plug was pulled and you
> will see no pendelum tower or any evidence of the use of a pendelum for
> the purpose of modulation. I believe that Tesla had devised a method
> of modulation or forming 8HZ sine waves through the magmetic pinching
> of a plasma in the connection between the elevated capacitance and the
> deep earth ground system that was so elaborately constructed at
> Wardencliff. Kovack Corum and others are under the same thought about
> the use of forming a slow low freq sine wave directly through the use
> of plasma modulation of a ultra high voltage electrostatic charge.
> Remember that Tesla was famous for his little mechanical or hydraulic
> analogs to electrical problems that he was trying to explain. Just
> remember the little girl on the swing, If you fire the positive half of
> a 8HZ or earth resonant wave into the ground the earth will respond
> with the negative half of the same wave if your input is exactly in
> phase and sinchronized. You only have to put in a small input to bring
> forth a magnification or reinforcing effect.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4154 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 12:05
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Joint Effort on Research
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Jerry and all: Why can't we in the Dallas Area form a Research Group
> and pool our resources so we can have a large shop to work in,jointly??
> I personnaly spend $250.00 a month for a hole in the wall shop that is
> so full of good test equipment and other goodies that I can not even
> walk around in it. Other areas such as the Richmond Tesla Group headed
> by Richard Hull has a large building and has plenty of room to work. I
> believe that it is possible for us to form a close knit group here in
> Dallas at a central location convenient to all concerned to jointly
> work. I will certainly contribute my $250.00/Mo. and all my equipment
> and goodies if it were possible to set this up. OK juys and girls out
> there give me some feed back as to thoughts and ideas. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4155 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 13:29
> From : DENNIS BARFOOT -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: lottery
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hey Jerry unless you just want to type in the winning lottery numbers
> to whittle away at your idle time(whats that?) there is an easier
> way. Our tax dollars are hard at work in Austin on the Comptrollors
> BBS 1-800-227-8392 which happens to keep a updated list of the numbers,
> size of the pot and whether or not there was a winner that date. Ah the
> wonders of modern technology. I've uploaded an older version of this
> from may as Winnbs.asc so you can look at it also I've got a shareware
> lotto picker program that includes a database to keep track of the
> numbers and does random picks for you. If you want acopy just leave me
> a note and I'll ul it to you.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4156 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 13:58
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: (R) Tesla fed to bucking coils
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Joel! The video is only 1 hour and we can stay there as long as we
> want....so if we show the video from 7:30 to 8:30, then talk a bit,
> then you can do the demo, would that work??...I can insert it in the
> mailer....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4159 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 14:10
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOHN SKAGGS
> Subject: (R) Comment
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi John! No, I don't have a copy of that book, but it has an
> intriguing title..>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4160 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 14:11
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : JIM SHAFFER
> Subject: (R) OK, who blabbed?
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Jim! Maybe they have a deal with the Psychic Network or taps on
> some good phone lines!...the magnetic field strength getting weaker
> with balloons follows as to logical progression, because of the inverse
> square law, but it is good that is was proven with the balloon test.
> >>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4161 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 14:15
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Joint Effort on Research
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norm! We (Chuck, Ron, myself and several others over the past
> years) have discussed this many times before....no one seems to want to
> commit to such a scheme at that time, beyond a very few and the money
> that was to come from such a pool was insufficient to even pay the
> electric bill, let alone a building.
> I love the idea of having a central facility where people could meet
> and work on projects....note, RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE....who volunteer
> tools, devices, books, etc....would take EXTREME care of other peoples
> property, etc. I work with 12 other technicians and most of them are
> very good about keeping things in order and good shape but we have a
> couple of "ringers" who just trash much of what they touch.
> It would have to be governed by a group consensus, i.e. kick out those
> who don't play as a team, pulling their own weight and taking FULL
> responsibility for their actions....I don't consider myself a
> perfectionist, (though some say I am)....but I just can't abide
> CONTINUAL mistakes, especially when it damages other folks property.
> As to funding, we had discussed 10 people at $50 = $500 per month.
> With electric, phone, water, etc. in addition to the rent, it just
> would not work...the Dallas area properties are ridiculous as to
> space...
> It is possible we could work some kind of deal with a property owner
> who would cut us a break on the rental fee....
> Tell you what, how about if an extra page is included in the mailer for
> this money with just such a proposition, running something like this:
> Wanted - building owner willing to assist in an
> experimental/research type facility for the Vangard Research Group.
> If you have a building somewhere in the Dallas area that is
> currently vacant, we could surely make good use of it and at least
> pay your property taxes with some additional.
> Purpose - to populate it with equipment, books, tools and materials
> in a combined effort by those who wish to participate for the
> express purpose of carrying out experiments with mechanical,
> electric, electronic, optical, fluidic and other projects.
> This is NOT intended as a money making venture, it is simply an
> experimenters haven.....where like minded serious experimenters can
> gather and work on their own or GROUP projects.
> The idea is for everyone to provide whatever they can make
> available for the VR Group, they still OWN the property, just that
> others are allowed to use it in a communal enterprise.
> We will share what we find at our meetings or with demonstrations
> at the facility, through articles, newsletters, computer networks
> or other means of communicating with the interested public.
> Of course, the building owner deal would have to be worked out, and we
> would have to provide insurance, deposits, etc....but such a project is
> L-O-N-G overdue....I can see it now, all these haggard fellows staying
> at the building for 12 hours at a time, married and social life going
> to hell, ADDICTS to the cause....hehehehe....but I don't think it will
> get that bad....
> We could install our own security system and a way to determine who
> comes in and when they leave. That is unless Norman wants to live on
> site...hehehehe...lots of potential in this and you never know, one
> person or group might make a machine that could be manufactured and
> sold...you never know....what do you think about a mailer soliciting a
> building? From there we could get an idea of what it would cost to
> setup and maintain utilities, lock the lease in for a few years (about
> 3), 1 would not be sufficient, but we should have an out should
> problems arise, for the building owners protection.
> If we get 10 people who can without fail provide $50 per month, that
> would be an excellent start.....and for overrruns, that could be
> distributed among the group (within reason) of course....$500 per month
> might be enough even to provide some additional group equipment....>>>
> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4162 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 14:36
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : DENNIS BARFOOT
> Subject: (R) lottery
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Dennis! Great! I bought that form from 7/11 and typed in most of
> it already for the purpose of putting it online for others to
> experiment with. Never heard of that number before but might be
> useful. I figure the file can be updated weekly and then folks can do
> their own version of magic....either spreadsheets, wheelers or whatever
> method they choose to try based on cycles or whatever...thanks
> Dennis!...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4163 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 15:00
> From : BILL BEATY
> To : ALL
> Subject: Hubbard coil
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> I just read STORMING HEAVEN- LSD AND THE AMERICAN DREAM by
> Jay Stevens. I highly recommend it as a dense history of
> the 60's drugs, with plenty of interview matieral.
> .
> The book has a page and a half on Capitan "Cappy" Al Hubbard,
> who invented a free energy device in Seattle in 1919 and used
> it to power a rowboat around lake washington. I always wondered
> what became of him and his device. THe book has a colorful
> description of the man and his history.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4164 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 16:30
> From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) Time Dialation Experiments
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Re: Speed of electricity.
> I must apologize for being longwinded in the following, but
> you've got me started!
> .
> When I had to design a museum exhibit on electricitiy physics, I had
> to re-teach myself how electricity really works, having been mis-
> educated by misconception-ridden american textbooks. It turns out
> batteries and generators do not supply electricity, they merely pump it.
> All wires, in fact all metals, are already full of electricity. You
> may recall from some science class that metals contain a "sea of
> electrons." This "sea" is what moves when electric current exists
> in a wire. This fact is of prime importance when one is thinking about
> what goes on in circuits. Also, electron flows happen very very slowly,
> on the order of inches per hour depending on the current. In an
> AC system, the electrons sit in place and wiggle, and do not flow
> forward at all. So, it's not the ELECTRICITY which travels fast within
> wires, it's the WAVES of starting and stopping that move fast, it's the
> energy which moves fast. Electrical energy flows and electrical
> signals
> are longitudinal waves of electron compression and rarefaction
> supported
> by electrostatic repulsion between masses of electrons confined within
> a wire.
> .
> Now on to your experiment: If you suddenly connect BOTH leads of a
> battery
> to a very long circle of wire hanging in air, the battery will pull
> electrons into its positive terminal while it also pushes electrons out
> its negative one. This sends a speed-of-light wave out both terminals
> of the battery. The wave is a compression wave on the negative terminal,
> and a rarefaction wave on the positive. As these waves get to
> successive
> LEDs in the circuit, they will be lit sequentially. I predict that the
> 7500-ft LED will light first (it's only 2500ft. from the end), followed
> by the 3000-ft LED, followed by the 5000ft one.
> .
> What happens if you remove the battery before the wave gets to the LEDs?
> I predict that removing the battery will send a second wave of ceasing-
> of-motion out thru the wire, and the LEDs will darken in the same
> sequence
> in which they were lit. Connecting the battery for 1.0 uSec will send
> a
> 1.0 uSec pulse to the LEDs. I'm envisioning an acoustic analogy here.
> If you shout down a very long hose, then suddenly remove your mouth, the
> sound that's already in the hose will keep going to the end whether your
> mouth is there or not.
> .
> One thing to think about: if you do the experiment on a wire spool
> rather
> than on an immense circle of wire, I don't think the waves of
> compression\
> rarefaction will stay on one wire and spiral their way through the
> entire
> length of the coil. Instead, voltage and current in one wire will
> inductively and capacatively couple to adjacent wires, and so your
> signal
> wavefronts will skip across the coil and act as if they are moving much
> faster than the speed of light. Each turn of the coil acts like a
> trans-
> former winding for all the other turns. You either have to spread your
> wire out in a big field, or use coax cable so adjacent turns are
> shielded.
> Also, are you going to switch BOTH battery connections on and off? If
> you
> connect the two terminals to the wire at two different times, your
> results
> would be different.
> .
> Have you heard about the experiments done in 1902 or so which showed
> that
> the mobile electricity within copper is electrons. Researchers wound
> a big spool of wire on a wheel, connected the ends to a meter through
> sliprings, spun the wheel a high speeds, then stopped it suddenly.
> The sudden halt in the wire's motion did not jerk the electricity to as
> sudden a stop, and a pulse of current was measured in the meter. It
> was a
> negative current in the direction of the wire's motion. I don't know
> if they tried this on many different metals. It is vaguely remenicent
> of Searle's original attempt to make a generator by throwing electrons
> off the edge of a spinning disk.
> .
> I must point out that all of the above is based upon my knowledge of
> conventional circuit physics. It's never occurred to me to try doing
> experiments like these. I'd love to hear what happens. You're aware
> that Joe Neuman's motor designs are based upon pulses racing around
> in coils? It's work like yours which has a chance of showing up
> anomolies and opening the door to really interesting lines of research.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4166 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 18:50
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Group R&D Facility
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Jerry: Yes by all means send up the trial balloon and let's separate
> the players from the strap hangers. We definitely need to get
> something off the ground soon for we have too many good ideas gathering
> dust and other groups around the country are working together while we
> just talk. Count me in BIG TIME. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4168 DATE/TIME: 01/09/94 20:29
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: (R) Tesla fed to bucking coils
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Jerry,
> Fine by me, just need to set up the Tesla and the bucking coils, but
> maybe a neutral center demonstration would be more enjoyable. Or both,
> what the heck!
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4172 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 10:06
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: Peregrinus Motor
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norm,
> Just ran across something that I would REALLY like you to see. It's a
> description and drawings of the Peregrinus permanent magnet motor,
> which was invented in 1269A.D. !! It was translated from Latin in
> 1954, rebuilt, tested and proven, then dismantled and destroyed.
> To build it, we need three wheels, three gears, three shafts, and 25
> alnico bar magnets. Mostly "off-the-shelf" parts, far easier to build
> than the MAGALT, which requires custom oval magnet flywheels.
> Kind of proves your point about a KeelyNet workshop, doesn't it?
> Thanks for the additional Tesla info, and if you could help me with a
> copy of the patent which you mentioned, it would be greatly appreciated!
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4174 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 11:14
> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: Direction and speed of electrical curren
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Bill, I really appreciate your feedback on the experiment on
> transmitting pulses through wire. Discussion like this helps generate
> new ideas and experiments. Your discussion definitely adds new
> questions.
> .
> On your comment that a battery sends a compression wave OUT the
> negative terminal and a rarefacation wave OUT the positive, at the
> speed of light: If we place an LED twice as close to the positive
> terminal as the negative; lets say this is 6000 ft from negative, 3000
> ft from positive, and connect both terminals of the battery to the
> wire, which wave will reach the LED first, the compression or the
> rarefaction? Since BOTH waves are traveling at 'c', it is obvious that
> the rarefaction wave from the positive pole will "pull" electrons
> through the LED long before the compression wave can "push" them
> through.
> .
> The LED should be lit by the rarefaction wave several microseconds
> before the compression wave gets there. In fact, using this analogy,
> the LED should light up TWICE - once when the rarefaction wave "pulls"
> electrons through the LED and a second time when the compression wave
> "pushes" more electrons through the LED. Normally these two events would
> be so close together that the phenomenon would never be seen - unless
> you were looking for it! (and believe me, I intend to look!).
> .
> Using your water hose analogy, if we take a long garden hose and at
> the 2/3 length position place a "paddle" wheel to indicate air
> movement and have one person blow on the long end (compression) and
> another suck on the short end of the hose (rarefaction), the paddle
> wheel should move twice. The rarefaction wave will reach the paddle
> wheel first, moving it, and logically, a short time later the
> compression wave will move the wheel again.
> .
> That is, of course, unless the rarefaction wave, upon passing the
> paddle wheel, reaches the compression wave at the MIDDLE of the hose,
> and cancels it. (Both waves are traveling at the same speed and so
> should meet at the middle point of the hose. Compression and
> rarefaction waves DO cancel, yes?). Since the paddle wheel was moved
> by the rarefaction wave long before the compression wave could ever
> have arrived, the short length of time measured for the wheel to move
> could be wrongly (?) interpreted as showing that electric current
> travels from positive to negative.
> .
> This scenario suggests that if we take two 5000 ft conductors and
> place an LED at the far end (middle), and place another two LEDs, one
> at each of the 2500 ft marks and connect a battery, a compression wave
> will travel from the negative pole of the battery toward the
> LED on the negative wire while a rarefaction wave travels from the
> positive pole of the battery toward the LED on the positive wire.
> Since both waves are traveling at the same speed, both of these LEDs
> should light up AT THE SAME TIME, the negative LED when the
> compression wave pushes electrons through it, and the positive LED
> when the rarefaction wave pulls electrons through it! And a short
> time later BOTH waves will reach the middle LED and light it up last.
> .
> So, looking at the gargen hose and wire and using your classical
> theory, I'm still not sure what will REALLY happen. We can put forth
> at least two or three conflicting lighting hypothesis based on the
> same theory.
> .
> Will the LED's pulse only once or will they pulse twice? Will there be
> a sequential lighting, and if so, in what order? Or might some of the
> LEDs light simultaneously? I had no idea at the outset that such a
> simple experiment could be SO MUCH FUN! I am prepared to do this
> experiment tomorrow, but I'm not about to actually do it until I get
> more pre-experiment guesses from you and the other Keely Netters. I'd
> have never thought about a rarefaction wave lighting up an LED before
> a compression wave getting there - thanks.
> .
> By the way Bill, you are certainly invited to participate in
> performing this experiment (hope you are local!).
> .
> The wire will not be on a spool when the experiment is conducted -
> self inductance and capacitance would skew the measurements. I plan
> on doing this out in the country in some deserted field where I can
> unreel 10,000 feet of wire into large loops with as little self
> capacitance and inductance as possible.
> .
> Anyone got a farm field with nearby power that we can use? (no Norm,
> we don't want to do this experiment in the Arkansas outback!)
> .
> Please re-read all our messages on this, ruminate a while, and get
> back with me later. >> Bert
> .
> p.s. - anyone else out there got any feedback on this simple
> experiment? It may be simple, but there are some very important
> electric foundation pillars being pushed and pulled around here!
> .
> p.p.s. Jerry, this discussion is starting to look like "file"
> material, yes?
>
> cc: Norman Wootan
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4175 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 11:14
> From : BERT POOL -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN (CARBON COPY)
> Subject: Direction and speed of electrical curren
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to BILL BEATY
> and a CARBON COPY was sent to you.
> --------------------
> Bill, I really appreciate your feedback on the experiment on
> transmitting pulses through wire. Discussion like this helps generate
> new ideas and experiments. Your discussion definitely adds new
> questions.
> .
> On your comment that a battery sends a compression wave OUT the
> negative terminal and a rarefacation wave OUT the positive, at the
> speed of light: If we place an LED twice as close to the positive
> terminal as the negative; lets say this is 6000 ft from negative, 3000
> ft from positive, and connect both terminals of the battery to the
> wire, which wave will reach the LED first, the compression or the
> rarefaction? Since BOTH waves are traveling at 'c', it is obvious that
> the rarefaction wave from the positive pole will "pull" electrons
> through the LED long before the compression wave can "push" them
> through.
> .
> The LED should be lit by the rarefaction wave several microseconds
> before the compression wave gets there. In fact, using this analogy,
> the LED should light up TWICE - once when the rarefaction wave "pulls"
> electrons through the LED and a second time when the compression wave
> "pushes" more electrons through the LED. Normally these two events would
> be so close together that the phenomenon would never be seen - unless
> you were looking for it! (and believe me, I intend to look!).
> .
> Using your water hose analogy, if we take a long garden hose and at
> the 2/3 length position place a "paddle" wheel to indicate air
> movement and have one person blow on the long end (compression) and
> another suck on the short end of the hose (rarefaction), the paddle
> wheel should move twice. The rarefaction wave will reach the paddle
> wheel first, moving it, and logically, a short time later the
> compression wave will move the wheel again.
> .
> That is, of course, unless the rarefaction wave, upon passing the
> paddle wheel, reaches the compression wave at the MIDDLE of the hose,
> and cancels it. (Both waves are traveling at the same speed and so
> should meet at the middle point of the hose. Compression and
> rarefaction waves DO cancel, yes?). Since the paddle wheel was moved
> by the rarefaction wave long before the compression wave could ever
> have arrived, the short length of time measured for the wheel to move
> could be wrongly (?) interpreted as showing that electric current
> travels from positive to negative.
> .
> This scenario suggests that if we take two 5000 ft conductors and
> place an LED at the far end (middle), and place another two LEDs, one
> at each of the 2500 ft marks and connect a battery, a compression wave
> will travel from the negative pole of the battery toward toward the
> LED on the negative wire while a rarefaction wave travels from the
> positive pole of the battery toward the LED on the positive wire.
> Since both waves are traveling at the same speed, both of these LEDs
> should light up AT THE SAME TIME, the negative LED when the
> compression wave pushes electrons through it, and the positive LED
> when the rarefaction wave pulls electrons through it! And a short
> time later BOTH waves will reach the middle LED and light it up last.
> .
> So, looking at the gargen hose and wire and using your classical
> theory, I'm still not sure what will REALLY happen. We can put forth
> at least two or three conflicting lighting hypothesis based on the
> same theory.
> .
> Will the LED's pulse only once or will they pulse twice? Will there be
> a sequential lighting, and if so, in what order? Or might some of the
> LEDs light simultaneously? I had no idea at the outset that such a
> simple experiment could be SO MUCH FUN! I am prepared to do this
> experiment tomorrow, but I'm not about to actually do it until I get
> more pre-experiment guesses from you and the other Keely Netters. I'd
> have never thought about a rarefaction wave lighting up an LED before
> a compression wave getting there - thanks.
> .
> By the way Bill, you are certainly invited to participate in
> performing this experiment (hope you are local!).
> .
> The wire will not be on a spool when the experiment is conducted -
> self inductance and capacitance would skew the measurements. I plan
> on doing this out in the country in some deserted field where I can
> unreel 10,000 feet of wire into large loops with as little self
> capacitance and inductance as possible.
> .
> Anyone got a farm field with nearby power that we can use? (no Norm,
> we don't want to do this experiment in the Arkansas outback!)
> .
> Please re-read all our messages on this, ruminate a while, and get
> back with me later. >> Bert
> .
> p.s. - anyone else out there got any feedback on this simple
> experiment? It may be simple, but there are some very important
> electric foundation pillars being pushed and pulled around here!
> .
> p.p.s. Jerry, this discussion is starting to look like "file"
> material, yes?
>
> cc: Norman Wootan
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4176 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 11:17
> From : BERT POOL -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: Stir 'em up!
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Norm, I hope your discussion stirs up some apathetic Netters! I've
> gotten one nibble on the long wire experiment - sent you a copy of my
> reply. Later >> bert
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4178 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 12:44
> From : JOHN DRAPER -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN (CARBON COPY)
> Subject: MAGALT
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to JOEL MCCLAIN
> and a CARBON COPY was sent to you.
> --------------------
> Gentlemen:
>
> I have a friend, a mechanical engineer, who is quite
> interested in pursuing the Malgalt Principles, and would
> like to know if you guys would be interested in working
> together to develop a working device. His brother owns
> and runs a large machine shop operation in New York.
>
> Also, do either of you have access to Internet? If you
> do, my friends name is Jack VanGelden, and his Internet
> address is [email protected]
>
> I suggested to Jack, that he get on KeelyNet.
>
> John Draper
>
> cc: Norman Wootan
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4179 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 13:01
> From : WILLIAM ALLEN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) Direction and speed of electrical cu
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Sounds like an interesting proposal... I have wondered about some of
> these questions before. I think that you DO NOT want to coil the wire
> as the inductance and coupling would mess up the results. Of course.
> the next problem might be how to 'see' a 1 microsecond flash from the
> LED. Possibly very fast optoisolators can be used and the results
> logged electronically, at each point of interest. Loging could be at a
> central point, but the connection to the data recorder from the
> 'sensors' would need to be the same length in order to determing the
> time dialation effect...
> The proposal sounds ultimately dooable, so lets keep at it!
>
> cc: Norman Wootan
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4180 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 13:01
> From : WILLIAM ALLEN -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN (CARBON COPY)
> Subject: (R) Direction and speed of electrical cu
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to BERT POOL
> and a CARBON COPY was sent to you.
> --------------------
> Sounds like an interesting proposal... I have wondered about some of
> these questions before. I think that you DO NOT want to coil the wire
> as the inductance and coupling would mess up the results. Of course.
> the next problem might be how to 'see' a 1 microsecond flash from the
> LED. Possibly very fast optoisolators can be used and the results
> logged electronically, at each point of interest. Loging could be at a
> central point, but the connection to the data recorder from the
> 'sensors' would need to be the same length in order to determing the
> time dialation effect...
> The proposal sounds ultimately dooable, so lets keep at it!
>
> cc: Norman Wootan
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4181 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 13:09
> From : WILLIAM ALLEN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: artificial scm
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> I would like the information about the 'magnet' which you built! Sounds
> like a strange thing worthy of investigation. I haven't heard of the
> reference you asked about...
> I would also like to get involved with large capacitor dischsarges as I
> recently became owner of a large electrolytic
> vcapacitorapacitor (oops) and have just been
> heard to say 'I would like to experiment with capacitor discharges'.
> Please let me know about the experiments.
> More later
> thanks.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4182 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 13:14
> From : WILLIAM ALLEN -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: Magnetic Rectifier
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> For about 5 years I have thought it would be possible to use magnetic
> fields within a coil to selectively route (rectify) very high
> frequencies, as high as could be put through the coils!
> The thought came up with the discussion of 'rectennas' to rectify
> sunlight directly, and the question of frequency responce (switching
> time) came up, and I imagined using magnetics to do this. I tried it
> with a weak ALNICO rod magnet, but probably overdrove the circuit.
> .
> Along another note, I saw several years ago a brochure for the
> superconducting conference, and among the items discussed were antennas
> made from S.C. material, said to be 'up to 20 times more efficient' at
> receiving signals than a dipole. Sounds like a warp in the fabric...
> or maybe a "net" to grab the signals!
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4183 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 14:07
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOHN DRAPER
> Subject: (R) MAGALT
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi John,
> If you download the MAGALT files, including the .GIF file, the
> information is all there. Just change the notation on the magnetic
> flywheels so that they are attracting, not opposing. For a real
> eye-opener, construct a paper model, and see how the forces increase at
> an increasing rate during the pull, then decrease at an increasing rate
> just past the sync. point. There are two additional points at which
> the attractive forces aid in the rotation, on the back "lobes" of each
> flywheel. It should be "do-able" with machine tools and a magnetizer.
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4184 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 14:12
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Recent Upload
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> I recently uploaded LEVITAT1.ASC, and described it in a somewhat
> whimsical way, which undoubtedly left some wrong impressions. Those of
> you who know me, know that I am very serious about free energy
> research, and I devote much in time and energy to experimentation, as
> do many others. However, an explanation is in order, so here goes:
> I believe that the PUSH model is of gravity is correct. This is
> important to my understanding of ZPE. I believe that the effect known
> as the BLOCH WALL is correct, and that the center of a magnet exhibits
> a push. The earth is a large ,agnet, and has 20 Bloch Walls at various
> points around the globe. When the magnetic forces are at their peak,
> gravitic inversions will occur, and this is the explanation of the
> Bermuda (and other) Triangle. How does this relate to ZPE? Well, many
> of the ZPE devices built so far have reported gravitic anomalies,
> floating, etc. Because gravity is a push, when the ZPE devices
> resonate at their center aggregate mass, the particle spin energy is
> reduced, and the push of earth's gravity lifts them. In other words, a
> properly functioning resoonant ZPE device will weigh less. Now, in the
> file which I uploaded, you can perform a levitation which is based upon
> the principles of the Bloch Wall, by allowing four people to station
> themselves as lobes of the earth's power grid, reducing the spin energy
> in the resulting vortex between them. I know that this has been
> demonstrated in a variety of manners before, but I BELIEVE that we can
> now explain it, it terms of push gravity, the Bloch Wall, ansd the
> earth's power grid lines.
> So, please don't think that the whimsical note was in any way a
> reflection of the material, or of my attitude toward our common quest
> and goals, which I believe we will accomplish in 1994.
> Thank you,
> Joel McClain
>
> cc: Jerry Decker
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4186 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 16:18
> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
> To : WILLIAM ALLEN
> Subject: (R) Direction and speed of electrical cu
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Thanks for checking this experiment out. I have some high speed
> phototransistors which will be setup at each LED. The wires from all
> the phototransistors will be the same length. I will use a 35 mhz
> oscilloscope to compare transit times of the pulses. I can measure
> time differences at the 0.1 usec scale, so pulses of 1 usec and transit
> times of approximately 10 usec are a piece of cake to see! I agree
> this is doable, and will perform the actual experiment after I get some
> more suggestions from Keely Netters. >> bert
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4187 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 16:52
> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: Cease-of-motion wave???
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Bill, I re-read your comments:
> .
> BB > What happens if you remove the battery before the
> BB > wave gets to the LEDs?
> BB > I predict that removing the battery will send a second
> BB > wave of ceasing-of-motion out thru the wire, and the LEDs
> BB > will darken in the same sequence in which they were lit.
> BB > Connecting the battery for 1.0 uSec will send a 1.0 uSec
> BB > pulse to the LEDs. I'm envisioning an acoustic analogy
> BB > here. If you shout down a very long hose, then suddenly
> BB > remove your mouth, the sound that's already in the hose
> BB > will keep going to the end whether your mouth is there or not.
> .
> Bill, what in the heck is a "ceasing-of-motion" wave? I know this
> is the "New Age", so maybe this is a Wave of the New Age? |:)
> .
> I was able to hang in there with you except for this.
> Maybe a clarification? >> Bert
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4188 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 17:32
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) Direction and speed of electrical cu
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bert! I've been watching and will rip it off to a file when it gets
> to some degree of resolution, so far speculations but quite interesting
> ones....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4189 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 20:16
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Pereginus Motor
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Joel: Sounds like another interesting project to me and guess who has
> all the parts on the shelf just waiting for the drawings or
> schematics?? Please bring to the next meeting for it would be
> interesting to see a magnetic motor design that old. Gees! was the
> wheel invented yet???? Ha! Ha! Can you imagine thos cat running around
> in carriages powered by permanent magnet motors. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4190 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 20:21
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : WILLIAM ALLEN
> Subject: Magnetic Rectification
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Please go back and read all the correspondebce over the last several
> days for there is a wealth of info on rectification of high freq etc.
> I found the magnetic method in The Complete Book of Tesla Patents, in
> which he l;ays out several ways to rectify AC to DC which will work at
> any freq or voltage level. It is the perfect approach if plasma is
> employed in the device. We have had a lot od dialog on the Black Hole
> Antennea which is close to the SC material you brought up. The Black
> Hole Antennea has phenominal gain ratios because of the negative
> impedance technique employed in the design. Norm
>
> cc: Bill Beaty
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4191 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 20:21
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY (CARBON COPY)
> Subject: Magnetic Rectification
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to WILLIAM ALLEN
> and a CARBON COPY was sent to you.
> --------------------
> Please go back and read all the correspondebce over the last several
> days for there is a wealth of info on rectification of high freq etc.
> I found the magnetic method in The Complete Book of Tesla Patents, in
> which he l;ays out several ways to rectify AC to DC which will work at
> any freq or voltage level. It is the perfect approach if plasma is
> employed in the device. We have had a lot od dialog on the Black Hole
> Antennea which is close to the SC material you brought up. The Black
> Hole Antennea has phenominal gain ratios because of the negative
> impedance technique employed in the design. Norm
>
> cc: Bill Beaty
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4192 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 20:33
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Pereginus Motor
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norm,
> I had a friend, who is a historian, check out old Peregrinus, and it
> turns out that he's the guy who first recognized magnetic "poles" as
> such, and labelled them. Later, he invented the graduated and
> calibrated compass! Wonder why history has all but forgotten him?
> I'll bring the info to the next meeting...btw, when is it?
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4193 DATE/TIME: 01/10/94 22:36
> From : CARLOS TEIXEIRA
> To : ALL
> Subject: << Greetings from RIO! >>
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Good evening, KeelyNet buds:
>
> I'm pleased to visit this famous system for the first time.
> Greeting for you all and do not hesitate to contact me
> if you ever need something from down here.
>
> All the best!
>
> - c.a.t.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Pontificia Universidade Catolica do Rio de Janeiro -- ICAD / TECGRAF
> ------------------------------------+---------------------------------
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> Voice : +(55-21) 275-3029 | Rio de Janeiro, BRASIL
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> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4197 DATE/TIME: 01/11/94 03:23
> From : CLARENCE SATTERLEE -- RECEIVED --
> To : BRYANT STAVELY
> Subject: (R) SUBLIMINAL PROGRAMMING
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Bryant, your message was well received. I would like to speak with
> you when you and I have some time. I believe your input would be
> valuable to many of us. Forgive me for a dificit in communication
> skills that has taken me years to perfect. grin. I think much faster
> than my fingers are capable of typing.
> Because of your concern for our freedoms, allow me to throw a few
> things at you for input as to feasibility. Why a union ?
> Now after kicking some issues around with laywers and others with many
> different degrees, certain things came about because of it.
> .
> For me or anyone to protect and promote one single Christian group was
> legally, "out of the question".
> .
> For me and others to protect and promote new
> Testament
> [C
>
>
> [C
> .
> For me and others to protect and promote the Lord Jesus' New Testament
> standards and fundamental teachings were within a realistic legal reach.
> .
> To do this, and have the legal authority and power, N.T. believers
> would have to become a union. to keep things
> simple
> become a union. To keep things simple and not argue over doctrine and
> not favor any single Christian group, a lot of research came with the
> most neutral and proper name that had no legal controls over it. And
> that name being the N.T. name, "Lord Jesus".
> Now the suggested union name would be, "Lord Jesus's People Union".
> To qualify to be in the union you need only believe in the Lord Jesus
> and adhere to His New Testament standards and fundamental teachings
> regardless of non/or denomanational associations.
> .
> now once the union is established it has the legal right to establish
> what government agencies or any group or person can and cannot do to
> them.
> Example: (see Rev. 13:15to18)
> No person or group, no foreign, federal, state, or local government,
> or their agents, can enforce by law of regulation, to have any Lord
> Jesus's People Union member or their children for the purpose of buying
> or selling, to receive a mark or number on their person in any form to
> their hand, forehead, or any other part of their body.
> .
> Just part of whats going to happen. let you in on more later.
> must sleep.
> Linda and Clarence
>
> P
> PQqrpp
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> Message 4199 DATE/TIME: 01/11/94 09:37
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Muller Motor
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Does onyone out there on the net know what has happened to W.F.J.
> (Bill) Muller of Canada who built an over-unity PM motor that used
> Metglas in it's construction. Metglas was developed by Allied Signal
> Corp and is classed as an amorphous metal that has little or no
> hysteristes losses. All please refer to Extraordinary Science,
> Jan/Feb/ Mar 1990 for an excellent article on Muller's motor and also
> on a hydrogen generator on demand for auto applications. Some one out
> there should know something about Muller and his work since it is so
> recent. Also we need information on Metglas ( trade mark of Allied
> Signal Corp). This material is supposedly being used in modern high
> efficiency transformers. Let's dig out the info on this for it would
> solve many of our construction problems. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4200 DATE/TIME: 01/11/94 13:49
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : CARLOS TEIXEIRA
> Subject: (R) << Greetings from RIO! >>
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Carlos! And welcome to KeelyNet! Perhaps you know Jorges Resines
> in Brasil? I don't remember the city....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4203 DATE/TIME: 01/11/94 13:51
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Muller Motor
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norm and all! I remember reading several articles about MetGlas
> when it first came to public knowledge,....I think it was in PopSci but
> a library search would no doubt dig up multiple references, uses and
> sources....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4204 DATE/TIME: 01/11/94 14:33
> From : WOODY MOFFITT -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: neg plasma, Hal
> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>
> Hi, Joel (and Dennis...) I caught your note about Hal Puthoff's paper
> and thought I should remind you that his notion of using plasma to tap
> zpe is EXACTLY what I described to you concerning "e.v."s, the micron
> sized plasma balls of pure (to .00001 %) electrons which are bound
> (as best we can tell) by dielectric forces overcoming the natural
> repulsion between charges. The patent # is (if memory serves) 5,018,180,
> from 1991. I've spoken to Hal several times in Austin, but he and Ken
> Shoulders are somewhat on the outs in the working sense (Hal just isn't
> a great tech man). In any event, you might want to ask Steve Gantt
> about his work with the piezo clicker on ceramic bowls and the like.
> All you need is a high-V negative pulse (the shorter the better), a (+)
> ground plane insulated to prevent recombination, and an emitter which
> is sufficiently small and sharp to "ram" the pulse across a gap to the
> ground plane, where it will run around UNTIL it finds a place to
> recombine. You will note that while the "e.v." runs around, you may tap
> juice from it inductively (60V @ varying amperage). Our old measurements
> gave 1/40 watt PER COIL in a xenon tube, but that was a grossly
> inefficient experiment - just a number to go by. The "Blue Lightning"
> toy that Sharper Image carried used an electrodeless discharge
> (insulated cathode driven at r.f. Hz @ 2kV in a mm. width dielectric
> tube plus a virtual cathode ring of metal app. 1 mm. from the emitter
> cathode). The toy basically powers itself after startup - by
> dissipating the heat from the e.v.s over Kevlar and tapping the juice
> with a 1.5% efficient thermocouple! If inductors were wound around the
> glass enclosure, and the dissipated e.v.s were collected via a
> capacitor, etc., this "toy" could run your tabletop t.v.! That is to
> say, the toy runs at break even or higher by gating back perhaps only 1%
> of its output! The patent mentions that decreasing the duty cycle and
> pulse width could give 96:1 return per pulse for a 2 ns. ev. E.v.s ar
> so exquisitely sensitive to ANY e.m. disturbance that they act like
> "black holes" to e.m., including zpe. This is true even when they leave
> ionization streamers in xenon, which is the genuine beauty of "Blue
> Lightning". I've been unable to find them since they came out - aside
> from one that Ken has, the only others I've seen were at a store in
> Albequerque. You can make a lesser version (with "impure" e.v.s) by
> simply clicking a piezo (Bic bbq lighters have good ones with triggers)
> through a xenon tube, taking care to attach the cathode wire correctly.
> We found earlier that a 555 oscillator pumped through a flyback or
> induction coil was far too hot for good generation in tubes, but gave
> BRILLIANT results when the current was attenuated by 20 megs or so
> resistance in series with high-V caps to make a LONG RC constant. Then,
> the formerly thin streamers and corona discharge went away and gave us
> bright white streamers which are a sort of "trademark" of e.v.s in gas.
> Using the clicker, you may notice that the e.v.s occasionally leave the
> glass envelope - they are known to bore through sapphire and diamond
> with equal ease, given enough energy. We also demonstrated the
> regenerative capabilities of them by passing a pulse in round-robin
> around a series of tubes, and observing them "skip" across a pc board
> with copper lined holes. The main parameters again are: a fast high-V
> pulse discharged ONTO an insulated positive ground plane (cathode is
> emitter), with the insulation preventing recombination of the e.v.
> with the anode. The other parameter is that of emitter dimension in
> relation to voltage - the smaller the emitter, the shorter the gap, the
> less power and voltage required to generate e.v.s --Ken builds his
> around 20 microns or less using silk screening on polyimide plastic.
> The plastic is covered with glass frit or aluminum oxide . Oh yeah, did
> I mention that you can deposit diamond coatings with e.v.s by passing
> them through the right gas combo? With small emitters, the voltage goes
> down to 100V or less. A shirt pin sized emitter takes 10 kV or more,
> depending on gap width, etc. You can make a relaxation generator by
> charging, say, a 1 nf cap to 3-4 kV, which in turn connects to an
> emitter with a gap width under 1mm. in vacuum (air). when the voltage
> is high enough, the cap discharges, et voila! You need to remember that
> e.v.s contain 10^11 or 10^12 electrons per, so calculate your voltage*
> capacitance product to insure sufficient charge. A current of 1/10 micro
> amps equals roughly 1 e.v. per second. My plan is to try a dry pile
> of 1-2 kV connected to the capacitor as I described. By gating feedback
> to the discharge capacitor, it should be possible to build an almost
> passive free-running device - no active switching, etc. Well, I'm
> burning cash as I write, so I'll get off for now. Dennis - check this
> out, only remember, it IS patented. Ken Shoulders holds rights on
> everything BUT energy generation, which Church still owns. On the other
> hand, Ken thinks the patent can be beaten, for the simple fact that you
> can't patent a phenomena of nature, only discrete devices. You can do
> anything you like as long as you don't try to market it. Several groups
> of investors have come forward on this stuff, which can also make a
> desktop supercomputer on plastic, running at 1 picosecond buss speeds!
> Yes, you can make a self recharging battery with the stuff, and some
> folks are already at work on this notion - I won't say who but you
> might guess they're from this neck of the coast. The investors, I might
> add, have all been duds, with one small exception, so the field is wide
> open. Simply give Ken his due if it's marketed - he has been through
> hell and back to get some of this stuff out. Oh yeah, Ken - he designed
> the 1st integrated circuit in 1958, 2 yrs. before Noyce and Kilby, but
> got shut down as it was coming together. He went on to design the first
> quadrupole mass spectrometer, and several other fine things. Good luck!
>
> cc: Dennis Barfoot
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4207 DATE/TIME: 01/11/94 15:41
> From : WOODY MOFFITT -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: ground connects
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi, Norm. I thought I should let you know that one of Ford's books
> ("Homemade Lightning") mentions a child's toy of the 1880's that
> consisted of a metallic rotor app. 1" long mounted so as to spin freely
> between 2 electrodes (like a radiometer rotor). One electrode connected
> to a conductive plate mounted at an elevation (to use the natural earth
> V gradient), while the other electrode went to ground. a capacitor was
> mounted between the elevated anode and 1st electrode. This design is
> essentially identical to one of Tesla's passive devices which used the
> same arrangement, the difference being size and the addition of a
> commutating rotor. In the case of the toy, you have true free energy
> producing kinetic power until friction wears out the parts, all from
> GROUND current. By using different plates (antennae) and more caps, etc.
> it is possible to draw quite a bit of juice from earth voltage gradient
> alone. If supercaps were used (charcoal+acid, 1.2 V/layer), it is
> conceivable that you could draw substantial power from a computer sized
> module, so long as the antenna is elevated (the higher the better), and
> the ground connection is sufficiently deep (6 ft. or so). It continues
> to surprise me that no one around here wants to try this - it is
> simple, cheap, and reliable, with nothing to break but the rotor, if
> you desire to use a commutator, (and I'm not sure that is necessary).
> I havn't, for the simple fact that I've got other squid to fry, and
> this method is obvious, if not portable. I figured that the kid's toy
> would be a good promo product to raise research funds - stamp some
> metal, shape some plastic/wood, et voila...$.25 makes $5.00. I know
> from your posts that you have a shop, and are talking about a lab with
> Jerry and crew, so you guys might fund it with this - hell a few extra
> hundred dollars a year might be the difference between rent ot no rent!
> Along the way, you can try a bigger version, or consider using ONE pole
> of a dry pile for the ground (-) connect, which might make it
> independent of soil. I also recall that Tesla made a device which
> emphasized extra high inductance/capacitance with low resistance and
> was UNGROUNDED. It functioned as a tank circuit "sponge". With a
> resonant Hz around 10 Hz or less, an underdamped device attenuates
> everything down to the critical freq., the kicker being that the cap
> stores the charge resulting from all those signals being damped IN the
> device, i.e., the device damps all higher freq. energy coming in, but
> stores it as opposed to merely dissipating it. A 10 H coil and a
> multifarad supercap will all fit in a coffee can, to give you a hint of
> the size. I don't recall the power achieved, but a small one may well
> run a tape player or such.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4208 DATE/TIME: 01/11/94 18:01
> From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: (R) Recent Upload
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> | JM> ...and the push of earth's gravity lifts them.
> |
> | I thought that "pushing gravity" was pushing down on
> | the Earth from without, not the Earth pushing up.
> |
> | A pushing down from without always made since to me...
> |
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4209 DATE/TIME: 01/11/94 18:02
> From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) Direction and speed of electrical cu
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> |
> | BERT_P> I will use a 35 mhz oscilloscope to compare transit
> | BERT_P> times of the pulses.
> |
> | Scopes lie. Watch for funny ground loops in line cords and
> such.
> |
> |
> |
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4210 DATE/TIME: 01/11/94 18:03
> From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Magnetic Rectification
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> | NW> We have had a lot od dialog on the Black Hole
> | NW> Antennea...
> | NW> has phenominal gain ratios because of the negative
> | NW> impedance technique employed in the design. Norm
> |
> | Can some tell me where I can get a copy of the
> | original Back Hole antennea paper?
> |
> |
> | Doesn't a Tunnel Diode exibit negative impedance?
> |
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4211 DATE/TIME: 01/11/94 18:03
> From : BOB PADDOCK -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Muller Motor
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> |
> | I got some MetaGlas stuff in the mail from Allied
> | today.
> |
> | Allied Signal Inc.
> | Amorphous Metals
> | 6 Eastmans Road
> | Parsippany, NJ 07054
> | 201-581-7500
> | 210-581-7581 FAX
> |
> |
> | Request Technical Bulletin "POWRLITE C-Cores" and "
> | "METGLAS Flat Loop Cores"
> |
> | APPLICATION GUIDE: Electronic Cores
> |
> | Design of High Frequency Mag Amp Regulators
> | Using Metglas Amorphous Alloy 2714A
> |
> | and
> |
> | Design of High Frequency Output Inductors
> | using Metglas Amorphous Choke Cores.
> |
> |
> | I have some older information at home if you're
> | intrested in that as well.
> |
> |
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4212 DATE/TIME: 01/11/94 18:24
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BOB PADDOCK
> Subject: (R) Recent Upload
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bob,
> Jerry brought an excellent video to the last meeting, which gave the
> reasoning as well as examples of push gravity. Becuz WE have spin
> particle energy, we push down to counter the earth's upward push, and
> we measure the difference as our "weight". The logic fits in light of
> the Bloch Wall effect, and also when considering the gravitational
> anomalies seen by the inventors of ZP devices. I forget who saig that
> to learn ZP, think of everything in reverse...probably quite a few
> people!
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4218 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 08:42
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Magnetic Rectification/ Metglas
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> You know the old saying," I thought I was wrong one time but it turned
> out that I was mistaken". Ha! Ha! Well I was wrong about the source of
> the magnetic rectification info for it is contained in "Inventions,
> Researches and Writings of Nikola Tesla" originally published in 1894
> by The Electrical Engineer of New York. If you don't have this book,
> get it for it has all of Tesla's lecture manuscripts plus a ton of
> other goodies including a wealth of info on Farraday disk dynamos
> better known today as "N Machuines". About Metglas, please provide all
> info possible about this material for I believe it would be usefull to
> all researchers out there because if it's unique properties. You have
> been very helpfull by providing an address of Allied Signal. Norm
>
> cc: Bob Paddock
> William Allen
> Bill Beaty
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4219 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 08:42
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : BOB PADDOCK (CARBON COPY)
> Subject: Magnetic Rectification/ Metglas
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to ALL
> and a CARBON COPY was sent to you.
> --------------------
> You know the old saying," I thought I was wrong one time but it turned
> out that I was mistaken". Ha! Ha! Well I was wrong about the source of
> the magnetic rectification info for it is contained in "Inventions,
> Researches and Writings of Nikola Tesla" originally published in 1894
> by The Electrical Engineer of New York. If you don't have this book,
> get it for it has all of Tesla's lecture manuscripts plus a ton of
> other goodies including a wealth of info on Farraday disk dynamos
> better known today as "N Machuines". About Metglas, please provide all
> info possible about this material for I believe it would be usefull to
> all researchers out there because if it's unique properties. You have
> been very helpfull by providing an address of Allied Signal. Norm
>
> cc: Bob Paddock
> William Allen
> Bill Beaty
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4220 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 08:42
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : WILLIAM ALLEN (CARBON COPY)
> Subject: Magnetic Rectification/ Metglas
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to ALL
> and a CARBON COPY was sent to you.
> --------------------
> You know the old saying," I thought I was wrong one time but it turned
> out that I was mistaken". Ha! Ha! Well I was wrong about the source of
> the magnetic rectification info for it is contained in "Inventions,
> Researches and Writings of Nikola Tesla" originally published in 1894
> by The Electrical Engineer of New York. If you don't have this book,
> get it for it has all of Tesla's lecture manuscripts plus a ton of
> other goodies including a wealth of info on Farraday disk dynamos
> better known today as "N Machuines". About Metglas, please provide all
> info possible about this material for I believe it would be usefull to
> all researchers out there because if it's unique properties. You have
> been very helpfull by providing an address of Allied Signal. Norm
>
> cc: Bob Paddock
> William Allen
> Bill Beaty
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4221 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 08:42
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY (CARBON COPY)
> Subject: Magnetic Rectification/ Metglas
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to ALL
> and a CARBON COPY was sent to you.
> --------------------
> You know the old saying," I thought I was wrong one time but it turned
> out that I was mistaken". Ha! Ha! Well I was wrong about the source of
> the magnetic rectification info for it is contained in "Inventions,
> Researches and Writings of Nikola Tesla" originally published in 1894
> by The Electrical Engineer of New York. If you don't have this book,
> get it for it has all of Tesla's lecture manuscripts plus a ton of
> other goodies including a wealth of info on Farraday disk dynamos
> better known today as "N Machuines". About Metglas, please provide all
> info possible about this material for I believe it would be usefull to
> all researchers out there because if it's unique properties. You have
> been very helpfull by providing an address of Allied Signal. Norm
>
> cc: Bob Paddock
> William Allen
> Bill Beaty
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4222 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 08:53
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Ground Connect
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Back several years ago I put together one of Teslas' cosmic ray
> collectors and simple escapement motors and it worked just as R. A.
> Ford depicted in his book. The most interesting thing that I noticed
> is that the capacitor connected to the elevated antennea or collector
> accumulated a charge just the opposite that you wouldnormally
> assume,that is a negative charge. My thinking is that the capacitor was
> actually being charge from the earth with the elevated antennea
> providing an opposite charge sink on the other side of the capacitor
> plates. Sort of like Tesla trying to tell us that the real power of
> the Tesla coil opperating at full resonance would be manifested in the
> ground circuit of the coil with the elevated capacitance being mearly a
> sink for the oscillations to occur. Remember that Tesla said that for
> a Tesla coil to do any worthwile work that there should be no spark or
> corona discharge at the upperterminal. If discharge did occur it is
> mearly a waste of energy. Norm
>
> cc: Woody Moffitt
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4223 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 08:53
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : WOODY MOFFITT (CARBON COPY)
> Subject: Ground Connect
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to ALL
> and a CARBON COPY was sent to you.
> --------------------
> Back several years ago I put together one of Teslas' cosmic ray
> collectors and simple escapement motors and it worked just as R. A.
> Ford depicted in his book. The most interesting thing that I noticed
> is that the capacitor connected to the elevated antennea or collector
> accumulated a charge just the opposite that you wouldnormally
> assume,that is a negative charge. My thinking is that the capacitor was
> actually being charge from the earth with the elevated antennea
> providing an opposite charge sink on the other side of the capacitor
> plates. Sort of like Tesla trying to tell us that the real power of
> the Tesla coil opperating at full resonance would be manifested in the
> ground circuit of the coil with the elevated capacitance being mearly a
> sink for the oscillations to occur. Remember that Tesla said that for
> a Tesla coil to do any worthwile work that there should be no spark or
> corona discharge at the upperterminal. If discharge did occur it is
> mearly a waste of energy. Norm
>
> cc: Woody Moffitt
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4224 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 09:26
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> To : ALL
> Subject: Butt-Head Astronomer
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Folks!
> This was in the January 10, 1994 ComputerWorld...
> Sources at Apple say astronomer Carl Sagan was so UPSET that Apple
> engineers had used his moniker as the code name for a 66-MHZ PowerPC
> in development that he called up the Cupertino, California company and
> gave them an earful.
> Ever the gentlemen (and women), the techies backed down.
> The new name of the project, BHA, stands for Butt-Head Astronomer.
> Sagan, as well as code names Cold Fusion and PDM, were originally
> chosen by Apple engineers, who consider them the three biggest
> HOAXES of all time (PDM stands for Piltdown Man, trumpeted as the
> oldest human remains when found), according to an engineer who
> recently left Apple......
> >>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4226 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 10:27
> From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) Direction and speed of electrical cu
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Sounds like your analogy with the hose and paddle wheels is just
> about what I am visualizing for the workings of your experiment.
> One detail:
> .
> > That is, of course, unless the rarefaction wave, upon passing
> > the paddle wheel, reaches the compression wave at the MIDDLE of
> > the hose, and cancels it. (Both waves are traveling at the same
> > speed and so should meet at the middle point of the hose.
> > Compression and rarefaction waves DO cancel, yes?).
> .
> On the above, I would say that the compression and rarefaction
> waves would meet and cancel MOMENTARILY, but would then continue
> moving and go through each other and continue unaffected. I've
> seen this happen with water ripples. I've even made it happen
> myself when playing with pulses on hanging ropes and swinging
> chains. It's only when the medium is "nonlinear" that one wave
> can alter the path of another wave's energy. In linear media,
> waves go through each other and come out unaffected.
> .
> Oh, here's another thing I though of. The resistance of a power
> supply is very low, so you treat it as a conductor. So, if you
> should connect the battery to the long loop of wire AND LEAVE IT
> CONNECTED, the waves of compression and rarefaction should go
> all the way around the loop, return, and PASS THROUGH THE BATTERY
> and go around again. The LEDs should change brightness many times
> in a resonant exponential decay, as smaller and smaller positive and
> negative current waves go past them. The current waves would
> continue forever, but I think the resistance of the LEDs and of
> the wire will make them die off after a few trips. If the wire
> resistance is high enough, the waves might even be smeared out
> after a single trip. Something to watch out for.
> .
> And even if you disconnect the battery a microsecond after sending
> the pulses, you will still get multiple pulses at the LEDs because
> the missing battery acts as a mismatched impedance on your line,
> which causes total reflection of any waves hitting the end of the
> wire. The waves will return to the battery, find it missing, and
> so reverse course and make trips around the loop again backwards.
> .
> Wasn't there some free-energy invention which used very long lengths
> of wire lying on the ground? I think it was powered by a tesla coil,
> but even so, you might get some weird results if your experiment
> interacts in any way with telluric currents, AC or DC. You might
> discover something interesting. Wouldn't it be great if you could
> accidentally tap a few kilowatts from the ether and blow up your
> LEDs? Or you might discover that you have to invest in 10000 feet
> of coaxial cable to get rid of earth current signals.
> .
> Also, I wonder if Bearden's "Final Secret" stuff involves some
> instantaneous propagation effects, followed by normal light
> speed effects. The thing where he connects a voltage to an
> inductor and then removes it before current starts, doesn't
> quite make sense if the starting of the current propagates as
> a lightspeed wave. Connecting a battery to an inductor, for
> even a brief moment, should in theory send a pulse down the
> wire of the coil. But if instead there was some INSTANTANEOUS
> wave (of electrogravity?) which filled the whole wire, it might
> alter the wire and make it suck ZPE. If this happens, you should
> see some waves on your wire which go much faster than the speed
> of light. Something to watch for!
> .
> I wonder what happens when you first connect one battery terminal
> to the wire loop, THEN connect the other one? The wire will first
> be suddenly charged up to the voltage of the battery terminal.
> As this voltage wave passes each LED, if it is high enough, it
> might make the LED pulse very breifly. This would be weird:
> flashing the LEDs with only ONE battery terminal connected.
> I don't know if the other battery terminal has to be connected
> to earth for this to happen, since it is an electrostatic effect.
> You also might have to momentarily ground your long wire first,
> to make sure it's at 0 volts.
> .
> >By the way Bill, you are certainly invited to participate in
> >performing this experiment (hope you are local!).
> .
> Sorry, I'm not local, I'm Seattle, WA. We used to have a fringe
> science/UFO/Magik/etc. group here a couple of years ago, called
> "The Group," but it ran out of steam when the person volunteering
> his home for meetings moved out of travel range. There still is
> Dale Travous here with his 9 ft. multi 10-KW tesla coil, and Gary
> Hawkins, who's 30KV capacitor bank penny-blasting was featured in
> EXTRAORDINARY SCIENCES last month.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4227 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 10:29
> From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) Cease-of-motion wave???
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> >Bill, what in the heck is a "ceasing-of-motion" wave? I know this
> >is the "New Age", so maybe this is a Wave of the New Age? |:)
> .
> Yes, Glasshoppah, when ceasing-of-motion wave propagate
> to the everpresent "now" of one's position on the worldline,
> one begins to smell and is in need of being discarded.
> .
> Sorry ;)
> .
> That "ceasing of motion" thing is something I started saying
> because, when explaining electricity to people, I found that
> most everyone uses the word "current" to describe what flows
> in wires, rather than calling it "electricity" or "charge" or
> electrons. "Current" cannot flow if current IS a flow of
> something. In my older message I almost said that a wave of
> "current" was going down the wire, but because of the blurry
> meaning of the word, I instead tried to say it more accurately.
> When you connect a battery to a circuit and wait a while, the
> whole circuit ends up with flowing charge. How did that charge
> start flowing? Well, when the wires first touched together, a
> wave of "starting-of-motion" zipped all around the circuit,
> leaving constantly flowing electrons in its wake. Now, when
> you break a closed circuit, THE ELECTRONS STOP WHERE
> THEY ARE. And they do the "stopping" one after another in
> sequence. And so a wave of motionlessness, or a wave of zero
> current, or a wave of ceasing-of-motion of electrons, overtakes
> each one in the circuit at the speed of light, leaving a lot
> of motionless electrons at the end. In your experiment with
> the long wire, the compression and rarefaction waves aren't
> simply pulses of breif movement, because in front of the
> waves the electrons are stopped, and behind the waves the
> electrons are moving. The waves are leading edges of a
> spreading area of movement of charges.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4232 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 17:48
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BOB PADDOCK
> Subject: (R) Recent Upload
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bob! I can't answer for Joel but I believe he was referring to
> "seemingly" random GRAVITIC INVERSIONS where the gravity effect does
> INDEED PUSH UP....that is simply an analogical term saying that the
> wind now blows outward sufficient to overcome the incoming gravitic
> wind. This is one of the contentions offered to explain the Bermuda
> triangle and some of the stories such as SKYLAND where something like a
> great Atlantean crystal is shifted in the mud of the triangle, to be
> exposed and thus charged with energy....once it reaches a certain
> point, it discharges some kind of energy field and anything caught in
> it will be blown out into space (or even hyper-dimensionally)...who
> knows....
> There are however, several gravity anomaly points on the earth...I went
> to one of them in California and you could clearly see the line of
> demarcation of the ZONE of the field....tress on one side grew
> normally, on the other side of this line, the trees grew with a
> twisting motion...I got as much tourist stuff as I could and have just
> not got it on the board...there is nothing really to see, just the
> EFFECTS on the growing masses and some odd physical phenomena...yes,
> they do use the tilted house, etc...to accentuate it but there is
> something definitely there when you see plants twisting....
> One thing very odd...one of the trees growing outside the zone had
> normal growth....except for a limb that extended INTO the zone...that
> limb WAS TWISTED!...very bizarre...
> I have a book, sent by James Hartman, about a series of measurements
> made by T.T. Brown working for the government, on gravitic anomalies
> over the earth. He was interested in these as possibly leading to a
> way to overcome gravity....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4238 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 18:24
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: (R) Cease-of-motion wave???
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bill/Bert! Can we use a slinky to see this more
> accurately..excellent description, Master!...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4245 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 21:12
> From : RICK ANDERSEN -- RECEIVED --
> To : DILLON RIDGUARD
> Subject: (R) PHASE CONJUGATION
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hello Dillon. Unfortunately, and contrary to Jerry Decker's 1994 BBS
> motto about 'less talk, more action', I have not performed any hands-on
> experiments with phase conjugation. My purpose was to establish its
> reality and documentation-- it has been in our Physics encyclopedias
> for several years now but has lately become Tom Bearden's Magic Elixir
> and so I've been researching it to find out as much as I can, partly to
> verify Bearden's theories. I have no doubt it can be and has been done
> at RF (at least at microwave frequencies), but I'm trying to synthesize
> or come up with a generalized method of doing this and the other things
> Bearden constantly mentions, such as producing a "scalar potential" via
> zero-summed EM waves, with TANGIBLE measurable results. I find
> Bearden's writings to be very much like self-help and how-to-make-money
> books: You're left all excited and you seem to understand what he's
> getting at, but you ask yourself "Now what do I do?" because he always
> falls short of supplying exact schematics, etc., because everything is
> always "proprietary" and Tom is leaking all he can to us, but no more,
> and never quite enough! Anyway, if Jerry will post it, I wrote a Part
> Two to that phase conjugation paper, and I hope he'll put it up soon so
> that more people like you can start thinking about this stuff and get
> some steam up for discussion, further research, and possibly some
> experimentation. One thing I'd like to try, since I don't own any
> optics, radar-absorbent material, or even a radar (for that matter), is
> to make AUDIO FREQUENCY SOUND phase conjugation, which Bearden hints is
> easy to do, but of course doesn't say exactly how. One more thing tha
> is bothering me: the literature speaks of the PC wave always in terms
> of a REFLECTED wave off the PC mirror. How do we make a self-contained
> generator-- let's call it a gun of sorts-- that shoots out the PC "ray"
> to some distant target; when the literature always has it returning to
> the original light source? Hope you undertood that one- don't know if
> I phrased it right. Well thanks again for the interest. By the way,
> if anyone saw the (1990?) comedy movie "Real Genius", about an evil
> military organization that secretly "uses" brilliant college Physics
> students to solve some hi-power laser problems, the solution turns out
> to be a LASER based on PHASE-CONJUGATION! Seems I remembered this only
> when I began looking up info on the subject. So even Hollywood has
> already played on this theme with reference to SDI-type weapons!
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4247 DATE/TIME: 01/12/94 23:12
> From : RICK ANDERSEN -- RECEIVED --
> To : DILLON RIDGUARD
> Subject: Phase Conjugation
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Dillon-- I forgot to mention that my Part 2 file is line at the Tesla
> BBS, (719) 486-2775 if you don't find it here on KeelyNet. - Rick
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4252 DATE/TIME: 01/13/94 06:09
> From : ROD FREDLUND
> To : ALL
> Subject: ESSIAC
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Today on the Maury Povich Show he is going to be discussing a family &
> how they aren't being allowed to follow alternative treatment for
> cancer. The preview showed a bottle with ESSIAC labeled on it.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4259 DATE/TIME: 01/13/94 10:52
> From : JOHN DRAPER
> To : ALL
> Subject: Re: Upload of GALSTONE.ZIP
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> I've uploade a file for several natural remedies for gall and
> kidney stones.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4264 DATE/TIME: 01/13/94 20:49
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOHN DRAPER
> Subject: (R) Re: Upload of GALSTONE.ZIP
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi John! Thanks for the file, it will make a welcome edition...wish i
> had it about a year earlier and it would save me about $7,000...but
> perhaps it will save someone else..<g>....later...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4266 DATE/TIME: 01/13/94 21:54
> From : STEVE MONTGOMERY -- RECEIVED --
> To : Jerry Decker (SYSOP)
> Subject: Comment
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Thank you for allowing me to visit your BBS! I have been looking for a
> BBS like your for years and will DEFINITELY visit again!!! (I just wish
> you guys were a little closer.) I am an amateur experimenter looking
> mainly into the effects of electromagnetic radiation on certain aspects
> of photonic radiation and I'll try to upload any data that I might
> find. Thanks again for your GREAT BBS.
> Steve Montgomery
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4269 DATE/TIME: 01/13/94 23:31
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Neutral Centers and Anti-G
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Just finished reading a story by Bruce Cathie, in which he relates
> about a Swedish Dr. Jarls, Oxford educated, who visited Tibet in 1939,
> at the invitation of a Tibetan student. Dr. Jarls filmed the "hurling"
> of the stones, where musical instruments are used to resonate large
> stones, and move them up the side of a cliff. They used voices, along
> with 13 drums and 6 trumpets. After four minutes, the stones would
> begin to rise, and would reach the cliff (250' up) in three more
> minutes. Some of the stones would split apart. The English Scientific
> Society took the films, and classified them. The exact location of the
> monastery is on a gravitic grid location, and the theory is that by
> resonating the neutral centers of the stones at that location, the
> gravity (Bloch Wall) would push the stones up. Same theory is offered
> for the pyramids and for the Coral Castle, which are both on Bloch
> Walls, as well. Also ties in nicely with descriptions of ancient
> harmonious flying machines, working on the same principal.
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4271 DATE/TIME: 01/14/94 01:37
> From : TOM MCCOY -- RECEIVED --
> To : JIM SHAFFER
> Subject: (R) Zhirinosky
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> A 'Elipton' is probably the thing that Tom Beardon has been saying that
> the Russians have had for some years now. Tesla sold the Russians a
> prototype before his death. Tesla tried to sell it to the USofA and
> Britain with out luck. I think he got a hundred thousand or so for it.
> Jack Van Impe is a TV gloom and Doom preacher from Michigan. Most of
> what he has on his TV shows is the world news seen through the bible
> and the End times.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4273 DATE/TIME: 01/14/94 05:59
> From : WESLEY PRICE -- RECEIVED --
> To : BOB PADDOCK
> Subject: ankylosing spondylitis
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> | She has been diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondylitis,
> | which is a rare kind of arthritis that affects the backbone
>
> I started a reply to this right after I read it but unfortunately
> lost it when I saved it.. the reply was initially supposed to
> address ankylosing spondylitis only, then as I typed I realized
> that the "cure" for ankylosing spondylitis is the same "cure" for
> almost every "degenerative" disease that exists...What I am
> proposing to you that read this and I hope bob and his wife try
> it is, a balancing act of in and out, assimilation and
> elimination.
> The key here is I believe getting a working, experiential
> knowlege of YOUR body. What makes YOU feel better and what makes
> YOU feel worse. You may already have this. If you don't, start
> keeping journal, see a naturual heath authority (someone who has
> experiential knowlege about how the body works) or more generally
> get in touch with YOU. There are no "cures" outside experiential
> knowlege of YOU. To elaborate there is only one, unique You..
> Stastical models represent what happens to the average person
> with ankylosing spondylitis or any other "condition"..YOU are
> Unique ! YOU have a unique solution !
>
> There are ,however, some guiding principles that may help.
>
> 1.Detoxify
> 2.Remineralize
> 3.Oxygenate
> not necessarily in that order.
>
> Detoxify - open and keep open all the channels of elimination
> Lungs
> Large intestine
> kidney
> liver
> skin
> any naturopath and some chiropractors would be able to help with
> a good individualized program to accelerate and maintain this
> process using herbs and exercises, specific for each organ area.
> Remineralize - get and use a potent , natural trace mineral
> supplement. trace minerals are essential at the mitochondrial
> level to provide the catalysts and carriers for energy
> production..energy that when available can be used for detox and
> tissue repair.
> Oxygenate - find and use sources of additional oxygen - exercise,
> hydrogen peroxide, ozone - again, at the mitochondrial level,
> available oxygen fuels (provides electrons) for the production of
> energy ( to be used for tissue detoxification and repair ie.
> healing)
>
> additionally, get a homeopath who will work with you to address
> underlying energetic distubances ( blocks in the transmission and
> reproduction of the perfect image that spirit has of each of us )
> - we're laid down on a subtle energy template, when that
> primordial energy is blocked, DIS-ease ensues.
> Master Herbalist John Christopher said, there are NO incurable
> diseases but there are incurable people. Have to get in touch
> with YOU.....
> good luck in your search if I can help further leave a a note
> wesley
> ps forgot to mention - all this seems to revolve around having
> excess energy to be able to divert from the routine
> maintainance functions of the organism to the functions of
> detox and repair(healing). The idea of forgiveness is a
> powerful tool to free up energy that can be redirecteced to the
> healing process.. It robs you of energy to harbor negative
> feelings for another.or self.( simple but not to be overlooked )
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4274 DATE/TIME: 01/14/94 13:38
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : STEVE MONTGOMERY
> Subject: (R) Comment
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Steve! And you are Welcome to KeelyNet! Thanks for the positive
> comments!...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4277 DATE/TIME: 01/14/94 13:42
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : TOM MCCOY
> Subject: (R) Zhirinosky
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Tom! Yes, I have seen this cranky fellow on the news, yelling at
> folks to shut up...today, someone slugged him when he threatened them
> in the Parliament cafeteria....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4278 DATE/TIME: 01/14/94 14:59
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: Re: Upload of PEREMOTR.ZIP
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Guys,
> Here's a "free energy machine" that has been languishing in the
> archives for about 700 years! It's easy and cheap to build, and I
> think we could proto a few of them locally.
> CUL
> Joel
>
> cc: Norman Wootan
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4279 DATE/TIME: 01/14/94 14:59
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN (CARBON COPY)
> Subject: Re: Upload of PEREMOTR.ZIP
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to JERRY DECKER
> and a CARBON COPY was sent to you.
> --------------------
> Hi Guys,
> Here's a "free energy machine" that has been languishing in the
> archives for about 700 years! It's easy and cheap to build, and I
> think we could proto a few of them locally.
> CUL
> Joel
>
> cc: Norman Wootan
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4285 DATE/TIME: 01/14/94 20:05
> From : NICK BISHER
> To : ALL
> Subject: Re: Upload of WFPC-01.GIF
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> One of 6 Gif's from NASA on Fedworld BBS 1/13/94, from the new improved
> Hubble.. Run as WFPC-01 thru 06.. in Misc files.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4287 DATE/TIME: 01/14/94 20:45
> From : BILL BEATY
> To : ALL
> Subject: Audio phase conj.
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> I don't think it's that easy to build an acoustic phase-congugate
> mirror. Don't these devices always require some sort of time-reversal,
> also some way of recording a two-dimensional pattern? The simplest
> way I can think of doing an acoustic version is this: Put a few
> hundred tiny loudspeakers and microphones in a large grid pattern
> with one speaker adjacent to each mic. Wire the mics to the inputs
> of a supertaperecorder having several hundred channels. Now record
> some distant sounds. If you now play the tape back in reverse so the
> sound comes out of the speakers backwards and amplified, the waveforms
> and phases of the sounds coming from the speakers will be such that
> the grid of speakers will direct powerful beams of sound out to each
> original source. Even with many separate sound sources, the device
> will simultaneously send a beam to each one.
> .
> Here's another idea: line a harbor with numerous individual high-
> speed water level sensors, and also numerous wave generators
> (maybe piston-driven panels or something) Now make a splash at
> some particular place in the harbor, and record the waves received
> on shore. If you now play back the received signals into the wave
> generators, and play them in reverse, you create a time-reversed
> contracting ripple pattern that shrinks down into a splash. And with
> a little amplification and processing, you could direct huge
> splashs to any point in the harbor. I've always wanted to do this
> in a science museum duck pond, then let people handle the controls
> of the timereversed phasecongugate hydralic wave duck dunker!
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4288 DATE/TIME: 01/14/94 21:53
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: (R) Audio phase conj.
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Try reversing the + and - on a pair of stereo speakers, and you'll
> notice that sone of the sounds are missiûng...they "beat" with each
> other, and cancel...except that energy is never destroyed, so the
> diffrence is phase conjugated, Same thing with an audio amp, where you
> reverse the phase off of a "y" on one side. Inverting the phase
> creates the effect that you are seeking, I think.
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4291 DATE/TIME: 01/14/94 22:54
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Information Release
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> An interesting article appeared inthe Jan. New Energy News which I got
> today. This article was an edditor note in a box on front page. Quote,
> "INFORMATION TO BE RELEASED ON FEBRUARY 1,1994. One of the most
> exciting theoretical developments in the history of science will be
> revealed at a press conference on February 1,1994. As a publisher, New
> Energy News has been provided with advanced information and an
> invitation to the press conference. The February, 1994 issue of New
> Energy News will feature this important theoretical breakthrough. This
> special issue will olso applaud the peer-review system for it's
> important and properly-played role in this important scientific
> announcement. Tell your friends to become subscribers to NEN before
> this important issue is mailed! They will thank you for your
> suggestion." The address for New Energy News is P.O.Box 58639, Salt
> Lake City, UT 84158-8639 or phone (801) 583-6232, FAX (801)583-6245.
> I know this sounds like a commercial for New Energy News but this is
> serious business. We'll just have to wait to see what is announced and
> what energy area this pertains to. I'll keep you posted of any
> developments. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4292 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 00:17
> From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: keely-like book
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Jerry, have you ever read the book THROUGH THE CURTAIN
> by V.Neal and S Karagulla? I happened across it
> in the Seattle library system. Even though it is New Age
> stuff, records of "classrooms" that people attended in their
> sleep, and I wouldn't ordinarily take it very seriously,
> it is full of physics and technology descriptions which
> strongly push the importance of SOUND for atomic physics,
> and talk about acoustics principles which are being ignored by
> current science. And also, the dreams were supposed to have
> been recorded in the early '60s. Other stuff which might sound
> familiar: glass caduceus coil devices which use acoustic energy
> to tap "dielectric" flows. Descriptions of space as being
> composed of complex patterns of "sound" (maybe longtudinal
> scalar waves?) One concept stressed as important is the
> "neutral point" at the center of atoms and of forms, where
> dual spiralling counterflows of something come together.
> Construction of perpetual motor inventions which "are no
> secret," but which won't start running until someone thinks
> a particular pattern of thoughts. And a 1964 Soviet super-
> weapon based on discoveries made from research into Van
> Allen belts combined with the work of some guy called Tesla,
> and involving ultrasound resonance of iron atoms, causing
> transmutation and energy release. They say it killed many
> researchers by transmutation of hemoglobin.
> .
> Too weird, especially if really was written back in the '60s
> before the Tesla or Fringe Science subculture had appeared.
> The book copyright is 1983. Take a look if you can get it.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4294 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 02:31
> From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED --
> To : WILLIAM ALLEN
> Subject: (R) artificial scm
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> On the "artificial superconductor" coil:
> .
> I came up with my device while wondering how to fake a
> superconductor levitation effect for a museum exhibit.
> You probably know that a superconductor can levitate
> permanent magnets by excluding their fields via closed
> current loops on the surface of the material. What
> suddenly appeared in my brain was a picture of a matrix
> of electromagnet coils, each with a hall-effect magnetic
> field sensor in the center, and each driven by a power
> amplifier getting its signal from the sensor. This setup
> does nothing, since the sensors detect any field from the
> coils and force them to turn off. BUT, if a magnet
> approaches the matrix of coils, the sensors will turn
> on the coils just enough to force the field at the
> sensors to be zero. This is just what a superconductor
> plate does! And the coils do repel the magnet. Regardless
> of which pole of the magnet approaches the coil, the
> sensor sends a current which forces the coil and magnet
> to repel.
> .
> Building this device is easier than it sounds. First try
> making a single "repulsor" coil as shown below. You use
> a switching-type bipolar hall effect sensor, a PNP and
> an NPN power darlington transistor, and a coil taken from
> a solenoid. I used 1/4-20 bolts for the iron core of my
> coils. The coil was for a 12V solenoid, and I drove it
> with + and - 24Vdc supplies. I got the transistors from
> DIGI-KEY electronic mail order, and the SS41 from R&D
> Electronic surplus catalog.
> .
> +Power
> \
> / +Power
> 22K \ /
> GND __________ / / SS41
> | | \ |/ ZTX603 goes here
> | / | | |
> | \100K *----*---| |
> | / | | | CORE V
> Micro- | \ / | |\ | ================
> Switch _|_ | |/ | __\| ================
> SS41 | | | | | \ _ _ _
> | |-----*---| | | / \ / \ / \
> |___| | | | | || || |
> | |\ | | |_____\_/__\_/__\_/__
> | __\| | | COIL |
> -Power \ | | (fm 24V Solnoid.) |
> | | | / |
> | | |/__ |
> | | |/ GND
> | | |
> | *---| ZTX705
> | |
> | |\
> -Power \
> \
> -Power
> .
> Get the circuit operating, place the SS41 Hall-Effect sensor
> against the end of the coil's iron core, then bring a bar magnet
> near the end of the core and see if it repels. If not, turn the
> SS41 over to reverse it's output polarity. Attach the SS41
> to the core (I used cable ties and silicone)
> .
> This is one repulsor coil. It acts like a bar magnet which
> repels either end of another magnet! With five I managed to
> levitate a 3" alnico rod magnet VERY wobbly and temporary.
> With two rows of six coils attached to iron strips, I made a
> slanted track which bar magnets would zip silently along.
> This circuit is too simple and has no adjustments, and it is
> underdamped, so levitated magnets tend to wobble. Copper
> damping plates (pennys) held near the levitated magnet can
> cure this, but it's a cludgey fix. I have yet to build a
> square panel and attempt to float a big magnet.
> .
> If you build any of the above, try connecting an audio amp to
> the DC power lines. Each repulsor circuit is an inheirant
> switching power supply, and the chorus of variable frequency
> whining sounds from the coils is pretty cool.
> .
> On capacitor discharge: leave messages for Gary Hawkins on
> this board. He is working with 30kV oil capacitors with
> discharge energies like a shotgun blast. Ask him about
> samples of the pennies and quarters he shrunk by compressing
> them with the field of an exploding coil.
>
> cc: Jerry Decker
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4297 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 07:07
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> To : ALL
> Subject: Earth Energy Generators
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Folks! I have to write this down as I just woke up after having a
> very bizarre dream.
> Norman Wootan has been speculating about tapping an earth energy that
> is primarily negative. In the dream, Joel McClain and I were over at
> Norms place, it was kind of on the outskirts of a small town and next
> to a railroad track. The house had a very odd design and we were
> sitting around talking and watching some kind of Discovery Channel
> show. In another room, another TV was running and I found myself
> watching it while Norman and Joel watched the one in the living room.
> The show I saw showed aerial photos of sections of Europe that had this
> long windings earth type structures, one in the shape of a man. The
> show said that Tesla had discovered a way to tap earth energy by using
> these earth structures, and there was sufficient power to operate an
> entire city.
> I tried to pull details from the dream and the TV as to construction
> and all I could get was a kind of orgone/capacitor type of
> construction. That is, a deep channel was cut into the earth and
> layered with rocks followed by fibrous organic material, followed by
> rocks and more fibrous material. These things were enormous, being
> about 30 to 50 feet wide and MILES long.
> In the dream, we all got very excited about it as we wanted to build
> one. At the rear of the house was a railroad track that was laid in a
> channel cut in the earth...we figured since railroads had the right of
> way and many of the tracks were abandoned, this would provide the
> perfect test bed. The idea being to locate a channel area and use a
> grader to place the rocks and then lay out the fibrous material.
> It was a very odd dream and seems to be trying to tell me (or us)
> something.
> There was mention of an old earth form that was sponsored by a King
> Phillip and that was used to provide power as a defense method. I
> could not see the country but it went on to proclaim the virtues of
> this totally natural means of tapping energy.
> From the aerial photo, they showed a proposed system that was dozens of
> miles long...the bigger the unbroken structure, the more power could be
> pulled.
> Anyway, you know dreams, if you don't write it down when you just wake
> up, you forget it or lose the "details".....is there something to this
> "dream tip"....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4298 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 07:19
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: (R) Audio phase conj.
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bill! Currently, there are two noise cancelling devices that are
> sold through the mail. It looks like a walkman, with a pair of
> headphones and a box that you wear on your belt.
> I brought the info to our last meeting and need to post it here.
> The machine has a way to adjust which noises you wish to cancel...when
> these freqs are picked up, they are flipped by 180 degrees and
> rebroadcast at the SAME intensity, thus cancelling out ONLY those
> frequencies....You could use this same device as a detector and amp it
> up for "other" uses...hehehe...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4300 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 07:23
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: (R) keely-like book
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bill! Thanks, sounds like my kind of book. I will see if I can
> locate a copy!!...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4303 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 07:27
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: (R) artificial scm
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bill! You know there are two versions of this already on the market
> as executive "toys"....both use magnetic fields that are controlled by
> light sensors....a ferrous object to be levitated is placed in the
> field and its height is sensed by a pair of phototransistors. These
> determine the current required to cause the magnet to "pull" from the
> top end of the device. I think they are about $30 to $50, depending on
> what you buy and where you buy it....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4306 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 09:25
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Important Theoretical Announcement
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> After reading the New Energy News in detail, I now believe that what is
> going to be announced on 1,Feb 1994 is The Grand Unified Theory that
> has been so elusive for all these years. There is enough evidence now
> for someone to go out on the limb and publish the THEORY. Jerry, I
> will drop off a copy of NEN in your box this morning so that you too
> can read and comment on this very important event. You know how we
> like to speculate. Ha! Ha! Boy this next Vangard meeting is going to
> be a HUM-DINGER. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4307 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 12:34
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Negative Spike/ Dreams by Jerry
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Jerry: I too awakened around 0300 this morning with a warm feeling and
> thought I had wet the bed. I guess it was levitation instead of
> urination though. Your dream may be a look into the future for the
> more I explore this tapping an earth energy in the form of negative
> electricity the better it looks. Wat is most interesting is the fact
> that my method is totally solid state with no moving parts. Bert has a
> similar project that also has no moving parts and is totally solid
> state based but is a different approach to a well known phenomenon.
> Most people out there on the net and our local Vangard Group probably
> wonder about the methods of ZERO POINT ENERGY tapping that a publicised
> and think we should build them. My theory is to leap-frog the current
> state of the art and build the next phase or improve in some way the
> allready built and proven models. If we all share openly our successes
> and failures we can accomplish more, faster and keep up with the pace
> of development of this expanding New Science. Idropped off the
> documents at about 1030, guess you were catching some ZZZZZZZ'. NORM
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4308 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 13:11
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Negative Spike/ Dreams by Jerry
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norm! Got up, wrote the message and went back to bed, so guess I
> was sleeping when you came by. Got a great paper on a Stirling cycle
> pump/motor (depending on configuration) that will run on as little as
> 178 degrees F. and the construction is JUST PIPES and FITTINGS....will
> make you a copy...they claim you can use the standard solar collectors
> to run this thing all the time, thus charging a system that would run
> your house...lots of uses....some really great info that needs to make
> it to the board....I just got them yesterday and just glanced through
> them so no copies yet...will bring you a set at the meeting on the
> 20th....thanks...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4310 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 14:17
> From : CHRIS TERRANEAU -- RECEIVED --
> To : GERALD O'DOCHARTY
> Subject: (R) gravity
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Gerald-
> Sorry about the blank message. I guess I pressed the wrong key while
> browsing the E-mail, and I was unable to stop the BBS from forwarding
> a reply that I never intended to do anyway. I'll try to watch my fingers
> more closely in the future. Thanks! >>C.T.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4311 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 15:31
> From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: Keely motor
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> THROUGH THE CURTAIN by Viola Neal & Shafica Karagulia
> DeVorss & Co, Marina del Ray, CA, (c)1983
> .
> This is a book on particular dreams some people had in the
> early '60s, where in the dream the person attended some sort
> of class and had various things explained to them.
> .
> In the Technology part of the book, the "teachers" say
> many times that sound is extremely important to physics,
> psychic phenomena, and to the structure of the universe.
> Also, the following two paragraphs suddenly appear. No
> other mention of motors or of "K" appear anywhere else
> as far as I can see.
> .
> From p172:
> "Concentrating on a particular geometrical form first at his
> throat center, then at a point in the brain, made it possible
> to start the "K" motor. The motor itself required a certain
> type of construction which was no secret, but once he had
> started it by this method it continued to operate until he had
> shut it off, either by mechanical means or again by focusing
> on certain geometrical forms in his brain. "K" happened on
> this through experimentation. He knew it was dangerous to give
> it to people and never said how he did it."
> .
> From p180:
> "The secret of the "K" motor was a crystalline form that was
> used and no one knew. It was under everybody's nose, but no one
> felt a crystal had an effect on a motor. "K" found out that just
> by visualizing the geometrical form of the crystal, he could get
> the motor to start. But there were crystals in the mechanism of
> the motor. Simpler devices than "K's" motor could be made. A
> simple combination of magnets and crystals could give you all
> the energy you need to run a house."
> .
> So, who could the mysterious "K" be??!
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4312 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 15:35
> From : BILL BEATY -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: (R) artificial scm
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Yep, I've seen these things, and even built a large one on
> the lab bench which lifted a 12" steel world-globe. The
> levitation device I made is about the same, yet different,
> since it pushes up from below. It also is immune to
> opaque objects like fingers and paper. It can be used to
> float a magnet off a table (with the device underneath)
> with no equipment showing above the tabletop. I don't
> think it involves and fringe technology at all, unless the
> slow buildup of oscillations of the magnet come from
> scalar interactions instead of from nonlinearity and
> from circuit noise.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4313 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 15:43
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: (R) Misc.
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Joel! Yes, the many excavations down in Central Mexico and South
> America are on the NAZCA plains, around the temples and various other
> places such as Macchu Piccu...there is much material on these peculiar
> evidences of past civilization...probably best known researcher is Von
> Daniken, though there are others.
> As to Orgone, the Reich Museum is still very much active out in
> Rangeley, Maine and sells almost all of his books, newsletters and
> publications...I don't think they are listed in the CONTACT file but
> they should be, the more people who have access to such information,
> the sooner we will see something useful...(you watchin' Chuck?)...
> And the uses of ELF are legend...I have several dozen papers and/or
> documents on ELF, how to generate, what to do with it, etc...as well as
> the many conspiracy type theories of woodpecker signal
> bombardment....both Bearden and Puharich were heavy into this field
> many years ago as was Michrowski of P.A.C.E. in Canada...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4315 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 16:31
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: Artificial Superconductor
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bill,
> I want to thank you for leaving that, in my opinion, brilliant circuit
> and description in the public mail. The manner in which the sensors
> switch on as the magnet approaches, then off as a result of the coil's
> field, then back on, etc. to me shows that a resonance is being
> established, causing the particle spins to slow down, and a net
> repulsive force to be created, aka the Bloch Wall. The distance of the
> magnet is related to the tensor field created by the quadrupole forces
> of electricity (coil) and magnetism (bar magnet), which is another
> definition of gravity, except under circuit control. I believe that
> much more could be done with your circuit, and would appreciate it
> greatly if you could get me a hand-drawn schematic of facsimile to work
> with. Thank you.
> Joel McClain
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4318 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 20:21
> From : TERRY BASTIAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: (R) Time Dialation Experiments
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> The long wire idea or the self insulated coil idea you mention is very
> similar to an inventor "Joesph Neuman" and his operating theory on his
> free nrg machine......He started his pulse and then swapped connections
> before the inpulse reached the other end of the wire to recharge and
> use the energy when the system was tunned properly.......
> Look in the May 1987 edition of Discover magazine for his explnation..
> A company called Tikon Industries in Seattle I believe is trying to
> market the idea...All Source Digest, 2318 2nd Ave. #12, Seattle, Wa
> 98121.....John Ecklin of the magnetic motor fame also works with them.
> ...............................
> Continue the Quest For Knowledge!!!
> Terry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4319 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 20:57
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: (R) Keely motor
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bill! Geezers, Mr. Wilson, now who could that "K" possibly
> be...lessee, the motors used sound, would only operate in the presence
> of "K" and some degree of geometry was involved....could it be
> Pavlita?...Naw....hmm, let me think about it....
> >>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4320 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 20:59
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: (R) artificial scm
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bill! Yep, they are just magnetic repulsion, but neat toys just the
> same....the circuit used to set the height is interesting as a PWM
> (proportional width modulator)....that has other uses...might be a
> useful file for folks who like to play with 'tronics..>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4321 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 21:01
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : GLENDA STOCKS
> Subject: (R) Comment
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Glenda! Yes, we have that letter on here, given to us by a friend
> (a schoolteacher no less)....called WATKINS1.ZIP if you want a copy of
> it....but Leslie Watkins says much of it was taken from news reports
> and extrapolations and outright fiction added...those are the things
> that seemed to upset someone...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4322 DATE/TIME: 01/15/94 21:03
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : TERRY BASTIAN
> Subject: (R) Time Dialation Experiments
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Terry! Yes, Joe Newman is again in the news as of 1993 and several
> files are here regarding his ideas of gyroscopic force to produce
> power....>>> Jerry
> ...just looked them up and they span NEWMAN1 through NEWMAN6 either
> ...as .ASC or .ZIP extensions....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4323 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 00:53
> From : DAN LOHR -- RECEIVED --
> To : ROD FREDLUND
> Subject: (R) ESSIAC
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Not being allowed to try alternative cancer treatments? That's a joke.
> Its a shame that people have been brainwashed into buying into the
> lie. Most any person who has cancer has a better chance of survival if
> they did nothing than submit their bodies to the medical doctors, who
> themselves are brainwashed into believing a lie.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4324 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 01:03
> From : DAN LOHR -- RECEIVED --
> To : BOB PADDOCK
> Subject: your health concerns
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Bob, my name is Dan
> Lohr, I am presently an intern chiropractor. I am familiar with
> ankylosing spondylitis, the problem may or may not be in the spine.
> Drop a note if you, or anyone else, would like more information on
> natural healing techniques for this specifically, or anything else.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4325 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 05:27
> From : CARLOS TEIXEIRA -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: (R) << Greetings from RIO! >>
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> -| Hi Carlos! And welcome to KeelyNet! Perhaps you know Jorges
> -| Resines in Brasil? I don't remember the city....>>> Jerry
>
> Good morning, Jerry:
>
> Yeas, I've heard of Jorges, but I also don't remember his city.
> Do you want me to search for him?
>
> On service,
>
> - c.a.t.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4327 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 07:05
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Stirling Cycle Heat Motor
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Jerry: Since I have built several of these Stirling Cycle Heat Motors I
> have an extensive file on them. Would you like me to bring some info
> and construction details to the next meeting?? Yes they con operate on
> fairly temperatures such as solar. When they are operated at lower
> temperatures the motor is sealed, evacuated and filled with helium gas
> to provide a better expansion/contraction ratio due to a tigh
> temperature change. The Germanshad one running a large bus that used
> helium as the expansion gas and it featured a constant combustion
> source for it's heat. It worked and was more efficient than a regular
> deisel engine due to the constant combustion process. The project died
> off kike all fuel saving ideas. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4329 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 10:50
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Unified Theory
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> If NEN or any other group is planning to announce the "arrival" of a
> unifying theory for classical and quantum physics, I hope that they
> acknowledge the contributions of both Russell and Cathie, who both have
> done so in the past. Both theories are based upon electron mass, and
> as such, provide a firm mathematical basis for 144 possible elements in
> eighteen groups of eight octaves each. If they are correct, then ZPE
> exists, and is predictable based upon mass aggregate resonance, as
> demonstrated by Keely and Tesla, as well as many others. Hopefully,
> the information will be fully accepted into mainstream physics, as the
> basis for future technical advances. I think that the proof is in the
> tasting, as they say, and Russell was successful in applying his theory
> to a free energy device, as reported in the proceedings of the 1993
> U.S. Psychotronic Assn. Conference. I, for one, intend to obtain and
> read the NEN Feb. bulletin!
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4332 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 12:35
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> To : CARLOS TEIXEIRA
> Subject: (R) << Greetings from RIO! >>
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Carlos! No, I have his address somewhere around here, just never
> wrote to him. Met him at a conference and we spent a whole day
> together talking about various subjects....a very interesting
> fellow....thanks anyway, if you are into Free energy and things of that
> nature, it might pay to look him up....will see if I can find his
> address...haven't seen much about him over the past year though...>>>
> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4333 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 12:37
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> To : CARLOS TEIXEIRA
> Subject: (R) << TV Brainwashing >>
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Carlos! Sounds like a good file....the EEGs of folks watching TV
> has shown they all go into a alpha state within about 2 to 5 minutes
> after sitting down. That is part of the hook...I don't think it is
> anything INTENTIONAL...just an artefact of scan/retrace at a certain
> frequency....what do they call TV? ah yes, the OPIATE of the
> masses...keep em' amused and they won't even try to think for
> themselves....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4334 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 12:39
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Stirling Cycle Heat Motor
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norm! Yes, will trade out the construction details...these are from
> some company who is promoting the idea, but it looks very simple (parts
> list included) to build....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4335 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 12:40
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : STEVE GANTT
> Subject: (R) Comment
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Steve! Sorry to hear of your problems and I heard something about
> folks who could not get through to High Science...OK, I will remove the
> header until you get it all back together....take care of yourself
> FIRST, then the "toys"...hehehehe...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4336 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 12:41
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> To : PAUL SEBEK
> Subject: (R) help
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Paul! Sorry I spooked you, I saw you were trying to get some of the
> files and they were misspelled, so it's easier to drop in and type it
> in for you without all the chat function....hope you enjoy the
> files...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4337 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 12:44
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Dallas Morning News, 1/16/94
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> For any who download LEVITAT1.ASC, there is additional "recommended
> reading" on the front page of the *NEWS* travel section today about Mt.
> Shasta in Northern California. Quotes from visitors include the
> phrases "power vortex" and "evidence of UFOs landing". You have to
> soer through some "new age" mumbo-jumbo, but the science is
> there...well, after all, our ancestors worshipped fire, when they were
> still unclear on the principles, so I'll go easy on the "new age".
> Point being, there is a major grid location there, aka Bloch Wall, and
> the "effects" draw quite a few visitors.
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4338 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 15:03
> From : JIM SHAFFER -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: (R) Zhirinosky
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> The latest development I've heard is that Yeltsin has banned several
> psychics from appearing on TV because he says they made people vote for
> Zhirinovski. Just when you thought it couldn't get weirder...
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4339 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 15:06
> From : JIM SHAFFER -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Information Release
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Sounds like several things are coming together at once. A congressman
> from New Mexico has launched an investigation into the Roswell UFO
> crash, in case you haven't heard. Also I heard a brief mention
> somewhere that Hoagland expects some sort of announcement on February
> 4th, but you know how that sort of thing always goes.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4340 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 16:16
> From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: (R) hey
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Jerry,
> Hey, you're welcome on the HCL win.. I just did what it said to do
> in YOUR file! You ought to read some of them sometime!
> Bob
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4344 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 20:05
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: Information Release
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Joel: In my message #4291 I stated that NEN was invited to the press
> release since they are publishers. I would guess that all media is
> invited but we do not know yet who is holding the press conference,
> what universities are involved, location etc???????????? We'll just
> have to await more info when it is released. I wanted to alert all of
> you out there that something is going down soon so keep the ears and
> eyes open and alert. Can you imagine the stone face status quo types
> going into orbit when they are told that free energy is possible, you
> just have to acept the idea that we are dealing with an open system and
> not a closed system as we were told in the old school. HA! HA! We
> knew it all along didn't we but were called crack-pots along with all
> the greats that have gone before us. I really like the company I keep
> (with all of you other crack-pots) Ha! Ha! In message #4306 I was just
> speculating as to what might be announced. I really don't know any
> more than any of you out there. If anyone hears anything please post
> it to the board since we have everyone's interest up. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4345 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 21:02
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Information Release
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norm,
> RIGHT YOU ARE!!!
> Let's hope for the "main event" to unify us, not to mention VALIDATE
> our beliefs, and soon. I'm with you 1000%, dude.
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4346 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 21:05
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Bush Visit to China
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> While Clinton is on the front pages shaking hands with Ivan, Bush is in
> China on page 26. Since we announced that we plan to protect America
> from the threat of cheap clothes, instead of from the threat of Korean
> nukes, there must be some fence-mending required. Go figure! I can't.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4347 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 22:02
> From : GARY ESPOSITO -- RECEIVED --
> To : LEE JONES
> Subject: (R) Magnetic Motors........
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Lee,
> What about Geothermal Energy? That's a tremendous energy source.
> Just think, about five feet below ground level it's about 54 to 56
> degres F.. Now if you could bring that heat up to heat your
> house....... Heating from 54 degrees is a lot better than heating from
> the serface temp.......
> Magnetic Motors are hard to understand....... the feilds are hard
> to understand when they intereact....... but, nothing comes easy.
> later On,
> Gary
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4348 DATE/TIME: 01/16/94 22:59
> From : ANDREAS KAUPERT -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: Stirling pump/engine
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norman! I was the one who sent the plans to Jerry Decker about the
> liquid piston pump. I read that you have more info than what is
> available from the vendor on this item. Is there a possibility in
> getting some of this info as I am very interseted in building one of
> these for powwer generation and other uses. I would apprieciate any
> help you could offer. Thank you!
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4352 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 01:43
> From : ERIC BLANKENBURG -- RECEIVED --
> To : BILL BEATY
> Subject: (R) Time Dialation Experiments
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> I've worked with "original" Accutron watches. THE ORIGINAL TIME
> KEEPPING CIRCUIT WAS A SMALL TUNING FORK ACTIVATED BY DUAL COILS.
> ALTHOUGH THESE WATCHES WERE ACCURATE FOR THEIR TIME, THE ACCURACY COULD
> BE EASILY AFFECTED BY JUST LAYING THE WATCH DOWN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.NOT
> TO THE EXTENT REPORTED BY THE ORIGINAL EXPERIMENTER, BUT
> SIGNIFICANTLY-SECONDS A DAY. IT SEEMS POSSIBLE TO AFFECT THE ACCURACY
> WITH A SPINNING FERROUS DISC DUE TO GENERATED EMF ALTERING THE FIELD OF
> THE COILS ENERGIZING THE TUNING FORK,CHANGING THE FREQUENCY OF THE FORK
> THEREBY SLOWING OR SPEEDING THE HANDS OF THE WATCH. "NEW" ACCUTRONS ARE
> REGULATED BY QUARTZ CRYSTAL TIMING A STEPPING MOTOR AND WOULD NOT SEEM
> TO BE AFFECTED.
>
> cc: Bert Pool
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4356 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 08:14
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : ANDREAS KAUPERT
> Subject: Stirling pump/motor
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Andreas: Let me take a look at the info that Jerry has them if my files
> contain additional info of benefit I will provide same to you. Lindsay
> Publications offers plans for Stirling Heat Motors that are fairly easy
> to build. The very efficient designs utilizing helium as a heat
> transfer media are more complex and require precise machinning. I'll
> be glad to assist in any way possible. This is very old technology
> which has been thrashed out through the pages of Popular
> Mechanics/Science for many years. I'll bet I have seen 100 different
> variations of this CARNOT principal. Good luck! Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4357 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 08:26
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : JIM SHAFFER
> Subject: (R) Zhirinosky
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Jim! It's almost as bad over here with they Psychic Network, what a
> scam.....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4358 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 08:26
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BOB ALDRICH
> Subject: (R) hey
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bob! Believe me, I read ALL the files at least once before they
> ever get online....in fact, that one, I typed up from very tiny
> print....I just did not know there were tablets that you could get so
> readily...amazing what is available at the health food stores.
> A lady the other day gave me a flyer on this hepatitis B thing...about
> the doctor who cured himself and what he used, I believe it is thymoxin
> or something like that and it is off the shelf...will type it up for a
> file...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4365 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 09:14
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: Peremotr1.asc
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Joel: Back in my archieves of papers and energy machine plans I have a
> complete paper which is very detailed on the Peregrinus Motor. Now the
> problem is to find same. You guessed it, my filling system is just as
> screwed up as Jerry's. HA! HA! But we'll overcome these minor obstacles
> in time. The only problem is finding the time to file everything away
> in an orderly manner. Maybe we need a wife like Bert who tells Bert he
> can have his toys and play with them from time to time but he has to
> keep everything neat and organized. HA! HA! Bert you are very organized
> by the way. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4366 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 10:16
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Peremotr1.asc
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Organization? GAWD, that's a dirty word at the McClain Laboratories!
> Shoe boxes, left over shirt boxes from Christmas, plastic bags from
> Radio Shack...that's MY filing system. However, I always INTEND to do
> better!
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4368 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 10:24
> From : BOB PADDOCK
> To : DAN LOHR
> Subject: (R) your health concerns
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Please do tell of any natural techniques...
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4369 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 10:25
> From : BOB PADDOCK
> To : ALL
> Subject: Coax Noise
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> |
> | Here is a tid-bit to keep in mind when playing with
> | long rolls of Coax:
> |
> | Triboelectric noise is defined as that component of
> | electrical noise which is generated in a coaxial cable by
> | mechanical stress [Some thing as small as a temperature
> | change]. The term triboelectricty describes both the
> | contact and frictional electrification that takes place
> | between two solids in contact. In addition to flexing,
> | vibration, twisting, and impact, other potential sources of
> | noise can be piezoelectric effects in the dielectric and
> | capacitance variation in the cable. Triboelectric noise
> | becomes very important in shielded cable used as the signal
> | path between high output impedance to high input impedance
> | devices, such as microphones, pressure transducers and
> | accelerometers.
> |
> | Wires and cables, besides generating internal
> | noise, can act like antennas, picking up external noise
> | from the environment.
> |
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4370 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 11:59
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Peregrinus Magnets
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> The magnets used by Peregrinus are bar magnets, with N-S poles on the
> ends. If anyone is planning to build the motor, the orientation of the
> magnets is, with the disks as shown in the drawing:
> TDC large disk, going CW: NS, SN, NS, SN, NS, SN, NS, SN
> TDC left disk, going CW: SN, NS, SN, NS
> TDC right disk, going CW: same as left disk.
> The large disk must be counterrotated 22.5 degrees to place the magnets
> in the alternate push/pull fields, and the unbalancer should be at 45
> degrees relative to the axis of the large disk.
> Couldn't get all of this into the drawing, but if you have any trouble
> with it, just "paper model" it, as I did, and it becomes clearer.
> Joel
>
> cc: Jerry Decker
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4372 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 13:42
> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
> To : ERIC BLANKENBURG
> Subject: (R) Time Dialation Experiments
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Eric, thank you for the additional info on Accutron watches. I've
> never been inside of one of these particular watches. I too suspect
> that the observation was due to induced EMF effects on the two tiny
> coils. >> Bert
>
> cc: Norman Wootan
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4373 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 13:42
> From : BERT POOL -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN (CARBON COPY)
> Subject: (R) Time Dialation Experiments
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to ERIC BLANKENBURG
> and a CARBON COPY was sent to you.
> --------------------
> Eric, thank you for the additional info on Accutron watches. I've
> never been inside of one of these particular watches. I too suspect
> that the observation was due to induced EMF effects on the two tiny
> coils. >> Bert
>
> cc: Norman Wootan
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4375 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 15:05
> From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: (R) hey
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Jerry,
> I was just pulling your leg on the reading your own files! I don't
> know why the doctor who wrote that file (HCL) wouldn't mention you
> could take HCL orally, after all, it is FORMED in the stomach! I
> actually did mix some with dmso and put it on my skin.. smells like the
> dickens! I use caplet form, doesn't smell at all..
> Anyway, I guess the "big" boys are working on that problem of
> accessiblility. Next they'll make health foods illegal! Interesting on
> the hepatitis B, I'll look forward to that file!
> Did you know about the experiments in Rockdust? Or the theory of
> ice ages?
> Apparently the soil becomes de-mineralized and thus plants that
> convert less oxygen grow on the same soil as time rushes on. Eventually
> you get a greenhouse effect from so much Co2 and the equator heats up,
> producing extreme weather patterns between the equator and the poles.
> This clouds over the planet and you get an ice age. The ice crushes
> rock and produces very mineral-rich water, which then remineralizes the
> soil and you get again oxygen-converting (large leafy) plants and again
> you get good weather and the cessation of the ice-age.
> Experiments have been being done in farming communities with
> rockdust, blowing it over the farm, and results are astounding.. plants
> TWICE the size in some instances, and totally healthy, with no need for
> pesticides or fertilizers! I will upload you some files on this soon,
> due to the earthquake here today, my home bbs computer is down, but
> will be back up when I get home..
> Bob
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4377 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 15:55
> From : STEVE ELDREDGE -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: video tape
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Bert,
> It's been a long time since I have talked to you.
> Do you remember video taping our tesla coil?
> I never got to get the tape from you and I was wondering if you
> still have it. I haven't recieved any communication from you
> concerning the tesla coil meetings. Are you still involved with
> the group or have they disbanded? I don't logon to this board
> very often so please contact me by phone. Dave is also curious
> what you are up to. please call him as well.
> Thank You,
> Steve Eldredge
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4378 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 16:05
> From : STEVE ELDREDGE -- RECEIVED --
> To : DAVID CHAPA
> Subject: tesla coil video
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Dave,
> I left a message for Bert concerning the video we never got to see.
> I know that you gave him two blank tapes to make copies but I never
> heard anything more from him.
> Have you been to any tesla coil meetings or did they just dry up and
> blow away.
> Just Curious!
> If you find out anything please let me know.
> Thank You,
> Steve Eldredge
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4379 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 16:37
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: (R) Peregrinus Magnets
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Joel! I can edit the drawing to include all that, I think....would
> make it much clearer...thanks for the additional details...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4381 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 16:41
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BOB ALDRICH
> Subject: (R) hey
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bob! Never heard of this rockdust thing...though it kind of sounds
> like Rudolph Steiner with the use of cow dung that had been placed in
> cow horn and buried for several days...somehow it converts to this
> super-rich fertilizer and when mixed with water and sprayed over sandy
> or worn out soil, and left alone, the soil will convert to a very rich
> dark soil from 3 to 6 feet deep....they have been reclaiming vast areas
> of soil for farming in Australia using this principle....I know it
> sounds spooky with the horn and it must be buried at new moon or
> something like that, but IT WORKS!....I might have some info on that
> somewhere around here...Steiner was a very bizarre character and got
> his information from "outside", paranormal type sources...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4385 DATE/TIME: 01/17/94 20:34
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: Neutral Spike/Dream
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Jerry: After pondering you message on the "DREAM" I went back and
> reviewed the Rogers Underground Transmitter and now realize that tour
> dream has much more substance to it than you realize. Somewhere,(Bert
> and others involved with Tesla coils can help here) I read an article
> relating to the earth ground system for ZPE tapping should be a
> verticle ground rod with many radials as possible radiating out from
> the central ground as possible. I can't remember where I read this
> configuration for the ground. The most puzzleing thing that most
> electricians dont even question is the fact that on conventional single
> phase power distribution in all applications you are allowed (by code)
> to run multible hot legs for each neutral leg in the conduit. If I run
> 3 hot legs handling 20 amps each with one neutral, all wire of the same
> size how can the one, let's say 12 Ga. wire provide a sufficient return
> for 3 legs carrying 20 amps each. This is allowed by code and the
> neutral does not get hot. ?????????????????????? There is a lot more
> to the Neutral or earth source theory than meets the eye. If the key
> is in tapping energy directly from iron (4 free electrons in M shell)
> then would'nt it be correct to bury long rails of iron in the ground in
> a radial fashion from the central ground shaft. I know your dream was
> about a sort of railroad track that we were burying in an earth cut,
> but this is close. Have you ever thought about how the return path is
> formed back to a generating plant that is let's say producing 100
> Megawatts of power. Please review the problems that are occuring up in
> dairy land USA Wisconsin, Michigan and other mid-western states where
> cattle are electrocuted in the pastures under high tention lines
> because of faulty ground return provisions. This is a real big story
> up in the milk producing states. Let's be thinking in reverse here for
> I still believe the earth and it's iron content is the ultimate source
> of power with all of our wires providing the return path much like
> Tesla's elevated capacitance being the airel sink. More though and
> research is in order here. Your Friend Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4391 DATE/TIME: 01/18/94 12:16
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Jack Van Impe and Rexanna
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> OK, after the talk about the "Elipton" and the psychics banned from
> Russian TV, I was curious enuff to stay up after midnight watching this
> guy and his trained sidekick. For those who may have missed it, he
> explained the Taos hum, which of course is being heard all over the
> world now, as "earth and nature groaning" in anticipation of
> armageddon, 'cause we're all such meanies!!! How can such a genius be
> relegated to the midnight slot?
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4392 DATE/TIME: 01/18/94 15:23
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: Elec. Wiring
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norm,
> I've been thinking about the multiple hot vs. single neutral wires per
> code, and at first, it didn't make sense, so help me with this. Now,
> according to electron theory, current is the same at any point in a
> series, so it would seem reasonable that three 20 amp lines at capacity
> would fry the hecck out of a single neutral return line. But, if the
> neutral is connected to ground, and that seems to vary from state to
> state, then the conduit and ultimately a cold water pipe add to the
> return path. So, if the neutral is NOT grounded then you have a really
> bad potential safety hazard, unless there is a neutral for each hot
> wire. Also, if there are several hots per neutral, then the cap.
> discharges from compressors, and the inductive kicks from motors will
> afect other appliances, too, unless therûe is a fairly hard ground in
> the wall outlet. Not to mention the possibility of "hot" chassis on
> anything plugged into a socket where neutral isn't grounded. I think
> you're right on here, and there may not be consistency in the wiring
> codes, which concerns anyone who plugs a computer into a socket!
> The return is theoritacally infinite, asfar as code goes, but I've seen
> nine foot long copper rods driven into the earth to stop "kicks" from
> wiping out chips, especially around medical equipment. More thought
> needed here, and a refill on the pipe...
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4397 DATE/TIME: 01/18/94 21:37
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Neutral Spike/Dream
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norm! You know, there is also something called ElectroCulture,
> referring to the use of electrical currents to stimulate plant growth.
> It has been successfully used to prevent plants from freezing (in lieu
> of smudge pots), supposed to kill insects and make the crops grow
> bigger. There are several systems, but one uses just such a radial arm
> method, fed from a central source.....in fact, I have seen a diagram
> where there was NO POWER involved, it simply had a stake for the
> central source, with the arms radiating out over the plants (where the
> wires were suspended in the air like antenna)...
> Using your line of reasoning that some kind of energy must be flowing,
> then that would make a synthetic capacitor with the air as the
> dielectric and the plants as caught within that medium....thus it would
> appear the medium is being pumped up to that of whatever the potential
> was within the earth at that point.
> Several of the free energy devices seem to indicate a locality
> property, i.e. they work well in one part of the country, but when the
> same machine is moved to somewhere else, the performance suffers?????
> Thereby indicating some kind of variation in the ambient medium
> (aether?, earth currents, cosmic rays??).
> Anyway, Moray also required very long wire antennas to get his machine
> to operate properly, and his machine produced major power....perhaps
> this is a proper track for investigation....I remember Shine Richards
> up in Colorado also commented on the ability of very long wires strung
> down a mountainside to pick up many frequencies...like the old timey
> radios....he had this wire hooked to a spectrum analyzer and you could
> clearly see the Schumann peaks...very interesting...where there is
> frequency, there is power...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4401 DATE/TIME: 01/18/94 21:53
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : MICHAEL LORREY
> Subject: (R) User directory
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Michael! Yes, such a compendium would be most useful, especially if
> sorted by type of research...you know, Gravity, Free Energy, Health,
> etc....I never heard of this Alfazon and had to remove the User Scan
> function because it was eating up my hard disk from the excessive
> scans...some folks would do it two or three times a week!!! Anyway,
> there is responsible behavior and then there is RESPONSIBLE behavior an
> I ain't rich enough to replace a hard disk every few months....
> But we have been most fortunate as to equipment stability...later...>>>
> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4402 DATE/TIME: 01/19/94 00:31
> From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: Rock Dust
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Jerry! The rock dust action you described correlates with something
> I read in a book titled "Ancient Mysteries, Modern Visions - The
> magnetic life of agriculture" by Philip S. Callahan. He describes the
> importance of the magnetic qualities of rock and clay on living things.
> The thing about the clay though is that it needs to be "first
> generation", that is, not something you dredge up from the bottom of a
> sedimentary deposit, but rather the freshly eroded rock from mountains,
> especially igneous rock. Igneous rock frequently contains quartz by the
> way. His book also talks about pyamids, round towers, and aura
> detectors etc. A glacier does just that - it specifically erodes
> mountains down very efficiently. I grew up in Alaska where you would
> think the farming would be very poor due to extremly short growing
> season. But some of the things they do grow there attain HUGE size.
> 'Course everthing's bigger in Alaska come to think of it... HaHa!
> -Gerald
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4405 DATE/TIME: 01/19/94 09:15
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: Information Overload
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Jerry: With all that is going on sometimes I feel that we can't keep up
> with the various subjects and really do each issue justic by way of
> serious thought and response via the Keely-Net. I think you do an
> admirable job just keeping up and giving timely responses to all who
> log in and make comments. I have a large amount of info for the
> meeting and hope to bring an example of the Tesla Turbine to the
> meeting. I hope everyone is entertained for sometimes I feel that we
> are putting on a good info-showand tell all for the price of a meal.
> You couldn't get that much anywhere at twice the price. Ha! Ha! See
> you at the meeting. Norm PS. Could you bring Turtle Beach?????
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4408 DATE/TIME: 01/19/94 10:40
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: (R) Neutral Spike/Dream
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Jerry,
> I remember an elec. engineer in Florida who was able to use rods of
> various wavelength to capture radio signals directly, with the lengths
> corresponding to frequency ranges. The signals were rectified and used
> as a DC power source. However, the power out surpassed the individual
> inputs from the rods collectively, and he always suspected that the
> ground rod was in some way causing that anomaly. I think this adds
> some additional weight to Norm's theory...the engineer never figured it
> out, but maybe Norm has the key.
> CUL
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4410 DATE/TIME: 01/19/94 11:33
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : GERALD O'DOCHARTY
> Subject: (R) Rock Dust
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Gerald! Yes, I am very familiar with Callahans work and it is
> "simply mahvelous"....he is onto lots of good stuff that has
> applications in many areas, especially ecology....someday, perhaps, it
> would be nice to go to the ACRES conference to hear him speak...we have
> spoken on the phone as he lives in Florida, but I never had the
> opportunity to meet him in the flesh....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4413 DATE/TIME: 01/19/94 15:42
> From : LEE JONES
> To : GARY ESPOSITO
> Subject: (R) Magnetic Motors........
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Five feet below the ground? HA!!! Our frost line is at that depth at
> the moment and it ISN'T much above freezing there.
> See my message Challenge in the message base and file section..
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4414 DATE/TIME: 01/19/94 15:43
> From : LEE JONES
> To : ALL
> Subject: COLD!!!!!
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> ---< The Challenge >---
>
> Ok, Here it is:
> Last nite the temperature dropped to -45 deg.F here in Minnessota. It
> was so cold that even the dog wouldn't go out and, I don't blame him.
> Our furnace is burning fuel oil like a freight train, our fuel bill is
> approaching the level of the national debt. We need somebody to come up
> with a way to convert h2o (water) in it's components and burn them to
> produce plain simple heat! Nothing as fancy as cold fusion or other pipe
> dream stuff but just a way that we can keep warm.
> I personally have four solar electric panels and a windmill and
> can reasonably expect to provide about 50 WATTS, 24 hours a day year
> round. So that's the limit of consumption for the device that you'all
> can design. I have an unlimited supply of water and it would be nice if
> the device would be able to fit into the old oil burner furnace so
> things would be kept simple. KeelyNet has a couple of good designs for
> efficient electronic water splitters but there's not enough info for a
> dummy like me to build. What I need is a REAL schematic with a parts
> list and any other info that's needed to actually construct such a
> device.
> Another thing that needs to be considered is: How much heat can
> be obtained from the amount of hydrogen/oxygen that can be
> produced from the most efficient water splitter at 50 Watts??
> I'm not asking for "free energy" just a way for us to stay warm
> without having to consume nasty old dinosaur squeezins, while
> polluting the air in the process.
> As far as the problem of embrittlement in the burner goes, I'd
> say that a ceramic burner could be constructed by any potter with a
> kiln. The gases produced by combustion could probably be put to use in a
> greenhouse and anything that condensed in the stack could be used there
> as well as being consumed as drinking water.
> If any of you geniuses can come up with an idea or such for
> this, please just upload it to this BBS.
> Thanx for any help with this.
>
> Yours truly,
> Frozen in Minnessota...
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4416 DATE/TIME: 01/19/94 19:42
> From : MARK GRAALMAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: direction of current flow
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hello Bert, I got your letter today, I won't go into great detail
> but I think you'll find that all the led's light at the same time.
> Also, because the LED's take a certain amount of time to light, it
> may be better to use a higher level of current and place Hall-effect
> switches in the th and monitor the magnetic pulses.
> Anyway, sorry to hear about your coil! check out the files,
> and look for "Teslac.zip" its a Tesla coil design prog I wrote
> and you may find it helpful
> See ya, Mark Graalman
> 5004 South ave. Toledo, Ohio 43615
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4417 DATE/TIME: 01/19/94 20:02
> From : MARK GRAALMAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: Re: Upload of TESLAC
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Bert, try out this program and let me know what you think
> also any of your friends are welcomed to use it. I'm interested
> in getting any and all feedback pertaining to it.
> this BBS is long distance for me so I can't check in too often,
> but if you or your friends have access to compuserve, they can
> leave me E-mail my # is 71612,1234
> Thanks, Mark Graalman TCBA # 1399
> 5004 South Ave. Toledo, Ohio 43615-6429
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4419 DATE/TIME: 01/19/94 21:33
> From : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Stirling Cycle Heat Motor
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norm,
> I would be interested in the info you have on the Stirling Engine.
> Have an info pack from a "Stirling Technology, Inc. got a couple of
> years back who was marketing a 5hp Stirling for a little under
> $3,000, don't know if they ever sold many or are still in business.
> Anyhow I have a solar furnace build aftter the fashion of the one
> outlined in Mother Earth News long ago, build around 12'x12'
> mirror tiles. Works quite well, have a motor I converted to steam
> that runs a 4kw alternator. Always thought a Stirling would be
> more efficient and quieter, but never knew where I could get one
> for a reasonable price and never seen any plans for one like you
> mention.
> Anyhow let me know, I can give you a fax number maybe or send you
> a few bucks or something for copies and postage.
> Steve Rosenthal
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4420 DATE/TIME: 01/19/94 21:46
> From : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL
> To : ALL
> Subject: Free Energy
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Jerry,
> I agree with the premise which you purport, but if those who
> are now in control of the energy sources used by our world
> would have the perception they are threatened, how will they
> react? I hope that you have a way to insure that the sort
> of knowledge of free energy for which we quest, is made
> public domain. I am sure you read the Tesla Society publication,
> and they were giving example of first how hard it is to get
> a meaningful patent, and second how hard it is in this country
> to defend a patent infringement. I am not given to pessimism,
> just interested in your ideas.
>
> cc: Jerry Decker
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4422 DATE/TIME: 01/19/94 23:33
> From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
> To : DENNIS BARFOOT
> Subject: (R) efficient batteries
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Dennis,
> Your mention of this batterie reminds me of a story I heard from
> an engineer friend of mine. He knew a fellow who build a large
> capacitor. It was a large container that was super-cooled with liquid
> nitrogen. In the center of this was a connector like a large, silver
> (made of silver) leaf. Into this was pumped electricity for some
> months. Eventually, the container became heavier, and if you shook irt
> it, it tended to "slosh" as if filled with a liquid. I believe that the
> story ended that somehow it blew up.. perhaps someone pulled the plug
> and it warmed up. can't recall at the moment, but if anyone is
> interested I can re-contact the engineer. But seems to be liquid
> electricity.
> Bob Aldrich
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4423 DATE/TIME: 01/19/94 23:39
> From : BOB ALDRICH
> To : DAN LOHR
> Subject: Rheumatoid Arthritis, Cure?
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Dan,
> I have a very dear friend who has had Rheumatoid Arthritis for
> some years. She is a very valuable person but is unable to work a
> normal work schedule due to this problem. Can you offer any advice? She
> is on the drug which reduces inflammation. She has been trying to find
> a way to introduce more calcium into the body, as indications are that
> she is low on this mineral. She has begun Rife treatments on herself,
> but after several treatments, no result as yet.
> I have been trying to get her to realize the importance of
> detoxifying but not sure if she hears me..
> Any advice would be appreciated.
> Bob
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4424 DATE/TIME: 01/19/94 23:48
> From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: (R) hey
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Jerry,
> I originally heard of this rockdust thing in a book and video
> called "The End". About the end of life as we know it due to the
> approach of an ice age. Some of the indications from that video and
> book seem to be happening, like unusual weather patterns etc. He said
> I believe that lake bed samples show that there has been an ice age
> every 100,000 years for some time, and the next one is overdue. He said
> that they arrive suddenly, within a few years.. He said that the
> solution is to remineralize the soil before we use up all the oxygen,
> which has been lowered from 38% 200 years ago to 19% presently. (six
> percent in some large cities like Detroit I believe)
> Kind of scary, if you think about it!
> But the solution is simple, according to him. Just remineralize!
> Bob
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4428 DATE/TIME: 01/20/94 05:57
> From : WESLEY PRICE
> To : ALL
> Subject: soil remineralization
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> just ul'd remin1.zip and remin2.zip articles on the marvelous effcts on
> soil remineralization.. mostly about plnts but there is some info about
> humans too.. we need minerals as much as plants.. and we're not getting
> them in our diets.. later Wesley
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4433 DATE/TIME: 01/20/94 09:57
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : STEPHEN ROSENTHAL
> Subject: (R) Free Energy
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Stephen! That is the beauty of open communications, not only with
> paper to various friends and other networkers but also networking with
> computers....the information can go very far, very fast if everyone can
> just get over that hump of wanting to get incredibly rich.
> Personally, I would gladly support a shareware plan/set for an FE
> device or anti-grav or a healing technology....I think that is the way
> to support most alternative science research....people will pay for
> what they can USE....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4434 DATE/TIME: 01/20/94 10:00
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BOB ALDRICH
> Subject: (R) efficient batteries
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bob! Interesting comment...at least one of the old airship contacts
> (circa 1897) claimed they used water to produce "liquid electricity"
> which was a very efficient means of storing power...no details were
> given....hhhhmmmmmm.....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4438 DATE/TIME: 01/20/94 10:05
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : MARK GRAALMAN
> Subject: (R) Comment
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Mark! Yes, uploads go into the upload section and are not generally
> available....hold and I will check to see if it "arrived"...
> back again, yes, it seems to have arrived, something like 36KB...you
> can always check by asking for new files and it should show up even on
> the same call....thanks for the program, will inspect it....I usually
> am wary of programs because of virii....and so prefer text files with
> useful information...but will scan and review...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4446 DATE/TIME: 01/20/94 15:41
> From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: electroculture
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Jerry! This reminded me of an experiment I did many years ago and I
> had to dig up my notes on it. I often do experiments that combine
> several elements in a combination of techniques just to look for
> anomalies. This one had just about everything in it. I also use plants
> often as sensitive detectors. So inthis experiment I had a couple of
> plants in a hydroponic setup feeding off of pure chemical nutrient and
> artificial grow lights. Now the setup I was testing was very unusual
> and a little diificult to describe but here goes. Over the plants and
> on top of the 4 foot flourescent light fixture was part of the
> apparatus. It had two 10" tube frame octahedrons at either end of a 30"
> aluminum rod. in between there was a 1.5" dia. x 10" long coil of many
> turns fine wire. Over the center there was a 24" aluminum tube frame
> pyramid. At one side of all this there was a cross shaped terminal
> connected to the ground side of an automotive ignition coil by a long
> wire. at the other side was the ignition coil with a special
> combination spherical and ring terminal at the end of a aluminum rod
> plugged into the high voltage output terminal of the ignition coil. The
> two low voltage connections on the ignition coil were connected to a 6
> volt unregulated dc wall type power supply, which had a 60 hz. ripple.
> Now, under the plant's hydroponic unit were two 10 lb. alnico horseshoe
> magnets (from a big magnetron) facing each other in repel orientation.
> The south poles were on top and the north poles on bottom. With the
> apparatus in place and power on the well grown plants developed a
> strange alteration of the main stalk growth. Both plants continued to
> grow with this deformation which was that the stalk thickness doubled
> in the new growth area over a period of time. When I removed the
> apparatus the stalk growth returned to its normal thickness as before
> the experiment. I had to use the aparatus for other experiments and
> disassembled it before I could isolate the specific component that
> caused this growth anomalie, but it was very impressive to me and maybe
> bears further investigation.
> What do you think?
> -Gerald
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4448 DATE/TIME: 01/20/94 23:01
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN
> To : ALL
> Subject: SWEET1.ASC
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> This file is my favorite for reference on all things scalar, and it is
> a very professionally done paper. If anyone besides me is looking for
> an excellent intro or review of the principles, I'd suggest looking it
> up.
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4450 DATE/TIME: 01/21/94 02:36
> From : WILL PERSON
> To : ALL
> Subject: Overcommers
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> I saw a news bit on Channel 4 News Thursday 20 about a group pf people
> called the overcommers. They are traveling around the country and are
> appearing here in Addison on Friday and Dallas on Saturday, (I believe).
> Supposedly, they possess some knowledge relayed to them from the higher
> order of universal intelligence. Maybe, it's BS, but then again so is
> the endeavor of much of the redundant knowledge we seek. I'm suprised
> that no one on several of the science boards in Dallas knows anything
> of it. But then again, it could be hype.
> There is another work of knowledge which relates to the universal order
> that I've not seen mentioned, it is called the Urantia. Not publicized
> or openly marketed, but available through larger bookstores at a cost
> only basis; The Urantia Book.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4451 DATE/TIME: 01/21/94 09:54
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : Jerry Decker (SYSOP)
> Subject: Comment
> Folder : Z, "Comments to the Sysop"
>
> Jerry: Seems as though we have created a monster, so now how do we deal
> with the problem. You know that I am referring to the attendance at
> the Vangard meetings. I is going to grow exponientially unless we do
> something. Kind of tells you that people thirst for info and knowledge
> as to the future of everything,especially energy. I know this
> attendance thing is bugging you so let's talk about a solution. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4453 DATE/TIME: 01/21/94 10:55
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> To : ALL
> Subject: Cathie & Searle
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Folks! Got a short note from Toby Grotz and he says Bruce Cathie
> will be a guest speaker at this year's IANS conference....in addition
> to John Searle and John Thomas.....so plan on it, will have all the
> details online this weekend...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4455 DATE/TIME: 01/21/94 10:58
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) Mark Graalman's program
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bert! Will put it online this weekend...and probably drop you a
> note to let you know...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4457 DATE/TIME: 01/21/94 11:00
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : GERALD O'DOCHARTY
> Subject: (R) electroculture
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Gerald! That is quite bizarre! Reminds me of some DePalmas
> experiment and I think Rawls/Davis did some similar experiments mostly
> with monopoles...now, if we could reverse or halt aging or disease,
> that would be a useful "trick"...<g>...
> I remember reading a story about a secretary who placed a long and
> thick bar magnet under her chair...she had gray hair, was well past
> menopause and had no sex drive whatsoever....a few weeks after this
> magnet was put under the chair...her hair started getting darker, her
> blood circulation was up to the point that people commented about her
> "healthy blush"...and she started menstruating again...with a very
> healthy sex drive....don't remember where I read that but she was using
> the South pole that Rawls/Davis investigated...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4459 DATE/TIME: 01/21/94 11:06
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : LEE JONES
> Subject: (R) Greetz,
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Lee! I agree, they hydrogen is an excellent place to start and I
> think that stoichiometric mix as per Garrett is the way to go...drive
> an engine, to run a generator for direct power and/or charging a
> battery network...then you can have electrical heat or just burn
> hydrogen....though the efficiencies must be worked out for electrical
> as opposed to the gas..
> You know, there is a file on here somewhere about a fellow who used OIL
> in a closed set of pipes....he says the oil is circulated like in an
> old style radiator...and air is blown across the pipes which pulls heat
> from the hot oil...very efficient, I think he said it cost 15 cents per
> day to heat his 2 story house....been a long time, but it makes sense
> as a piece of this hybrid puzzle that we are all working on from
> different angles...also have the stirling cycle engine that I need to
> strip and rip up for the board...good luck to you and your buds, I know
> you folks are having a hard time out in the hinterlands...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4460 DATE/TIME: 01/21/94 11:10
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Comment
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norman! You know, the attendance thing is not the problem for me,
> it is rather the nature of "drifters" who only come to be entertained
> essentially for free....and that pisses me off. They take up space
> from those who we REALLY need on an invitation basis only. And many
> give absolutely nothing in return, hell, several don't even eat
> anything and only grudgingly buy a cup of coffee...
> I am not sticking up for JoJo's, but we do get the room on that
> basis...I personally don't like large groups, it then devolves into a
> circus that always leads to the power/ego thing....kind of drifting
> into something that I had foreseen, but NOT SO FAST in arriving.
> Seems like some folks have hidden agendas, as to distributing leaflets
> for their own meetings, then leaving...i.e....they want a group of
> people already collected who obviously participate to some degree.
> I am not making this a private message as it should be understood by
> some who are simply lurkers.
> I guess it is my fault for not keeping it to invitation only...I know,
> that is in a way, an archaic, isolationist policy, but there are so
> many people out there, especially with the New Age or ripoff someone
> attitude, that I feel something has to change....
> So, I am planning to pare down the mailing list and keep the mailers
> much less "detailed"...so there will be no spreading of the word as to
> what will be presented beyond simple comments....
> The intent on my part was to get together with friends and associates
> for the exchange of information and group discussion. Did you see the
> total cost for the papers that were brought by you, Bert and me? Over
> $13.00 per pack and that is at 5 cents per page....And how many other
> papers were brought or even offered???
> Notice in past meetings, we are the people who provide papers with only
> a scattering of info from others...I think they have info but are too
> damn lazy to run off copies or want to keep it to themselves...
> YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR WORKS ain't just a cliche...those who
> share AND participate to some degree are invited, the others I simply
> don't care about...some have the hidden agenda, some are just
> information leaches....
> Diatribe? No, it has been eating at me for several months now as the
> group swells and I see how much ACTUAL participation there is in the
> way of papers...damn little...
> So, I did promise the two extra hours spread over the next two
> months...and I am keeping a list of who is active and who just takes a
> mailer and pops in once per year...
> It costs me about $400 to $600 per year just to do those mailers and I
> think it could easily be reduced to participants. I don't mind the
> money as KeelyNet costs money to run also...but it all does serve a
> good purpose....you should see how some people download tons of
> information from here, without anything in return, nothing in the mail,
> not even a decent message....I see it but just stay quiet...what goes
> around....<g>....anyway, sorry for the APPARENT diatribe but you
> brought it up and I am simply clarifying future actions that I will
> take to bring things back to some degree of normalcy.
> Last night, there were some really rude and inconsiderate actions by
> many people...everything can be biased back into a reasonable operating
> pattern, and so it shall be....
> Now, onto a subject of more useful info...Toby dropped a note to me
> saying Cathie was going to be there??? That should be a hoot, so with
> Cathie and Searle and John T..we just have to go...how about we drive
> up in my Bronco...maybe we can get the old fart, McClain to come with
> us....though he might get too tired...we can make him sleep in the back
> seat while us youngsters keep up a lively discussion....stuff to do so
> will probably call you this weekend...I promised Bert I'd put that
> program on about the Tesla coil...so will do that tonite...later
> dude...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4462 DATE/TIME: 01/21/94 15:50
> From : WOODY MOFFITT -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: ground connect
> Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega"
>
> Hi, Norm. On the subject of ground connections and neutral flows,
> you may want to ponder the effect of using bifilar pancake coils
> both to increase effective surface area and to take advantage of the
> higher voltage capacity in these coils. Simple spiral coils may work as
> well...either way, the spiral form of the coil allows it to interact
> with a broader range of Hz in the environment. I can't get out of my
> mind the examlple from "Homemade Lightning" (a Ford book) which
> describes the paddle and stone neon light. A wooden paddle (somewhat
> like an electrophorus) has a spiral coil attached to the base and
> covered with glass. when the paddle is rubbed over a 5" by 5" or so
> piece of limestone (the dense variety) for 5 minutes, the paddle retains
> enough charge to light a small neon tube for HOURS. This was from a
> German patent of the mid 1930's. Part of the action is derived from the
> SEMICONDUCTING properties of the limestone, which acts as a high F
> capacitor, perhaps with high polariztion properties due to its
> semiconductive nature. Any way you put it, there is a vast amount of
> ambient charge/voltage waiting to be tapped from simple earth
> connections. It might interest you to know that some conventional
> physicists a few years back appeared to demonstrate a mechanism whereby
> the earth was charged from cosmic rays (specifically the muon secondary
> showers from atmospheric collisions - the muons decay to electrons and
> release energy in the process..). Iron compounds may play a role in the
> process, but I don't think they are the original source of the
> charge/voltage. Solar wind plays the same role as cosmic rays in this,
> I should add, sans muon showers. A related set of experiments were done
> in the early 1900's in Finland. In this instance, a 900' hill was laid
> out with a spiral coil covering 20' or more, attached to a 10 or 20'
> pole. The other end of the wire trialed down the hill to an ammeter.
> The researchers waited for an aurora to come to earth, something
> apparently not uncommon in the winter months in that region. I seem to
> recall that the researchers measured several milliamps of current when
> the hill was visibly lighted. Part of the experiment was designed to
> "bring the aurora down", as the phenomenon most often came to within a
> couple of 1000 feet, but rarely came all the way down. several
> experiments along these lines WERE successful. Any way you put it,
> the earth has a 300 V/meter gradient that is equivalent to a lot of
> power if a current source is present. I once built a small ungrounded
> device which employed a foil/cardboard/paper/tape pyramid as the
> capacitive collector/antenna. A ferrous needle was inserted at the apex
> to which I attached a wire. The wire led to a foil (Al) cap made of a
> small quartz crystal between foil plates. The other connection went
> through a 50' mag wire coil which led back to the base of the pyramid
> collector through a diode, in this case a low power Ge signal diode.
> A ferrite rod in the middle of the coil got palpably "sticky" when
> moved, but the most interesting effect was PAIN. I tested in on several
> friends without telling them what it would do. In every case, leaving
> your finger in the coil for 30 seconds or more produced sharp aching
> pain which would linger briefly after removing the finger, and return
> when it was reinserted. I should add that the effect was increased by
> raising the pyramid to a higher elevation than the LC/diode components,
> the higher the DIFFERENCE, the higher the effect. This was a small
> example of an UNGROUNDED Tesla type device with high L,C and low
> impedance re the capacitive collector. More on this as time permits -
> keep up the good work!
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4467 DATE/TIME: 01/21/94 21:29
> From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
> To : WILLIAM ALLEN
> Subject: Capacitor Discharges
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi William! There is a device called "High Energy Pulsed Source" in the
> book "Build your own laser, phaser,...." etc. It is claimed to have a
> pulse power of 400,000 watts. Complete plans are given and they even
> had kits available according to the book, but I don't know if its still
> available. You should be VERY careful working with this kind of device
> as the peak pulsed power can easily be lethal!
> -Gerald
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4468 DATE/TIME: 01/21/94 23:52
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : WOODY MOFFITT
> Subject: Neutral Spikes
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Woody: Appreciate your response to my Neutral Spike Doc. Yes I have
> read about the Wooden Paddle Electrostatic Device that was in Ford's
> book and also in an old Popular Science some time back. The main
> thrust behind my ZPE tapping from iron is more of a direct method that
> Harold Aspden describes which entails driving the iron to 100%
> saturation an reversal of the fluxlines to pop the elecyrons out of the
> iron directly. This will be in the form of negative electricity that
> Bedini and Bearden have described. About the method of energy
> replinishment that the earth undergoes, we will have to wait a while
> for Jerry to put together a document which will be coming out soon
> which willopen some eyes as to just how this old universe really works.
> We have the info but it is not yet in the right format to present at
> this time. You were close but "NO CIGAR" this time HA! HA! More later
> I promise. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4469 DATE/TIME: 01/22/94 00:04
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : GERALD O'DOCHARTY
> Subject: Capacitor Discharges
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Gerald: I really enjoy your input to our little energy problems and
> discussions. About capacitor discharges, if we will all use the term
> Joules then we would all know exactly how much power we are talking
> about. See Capacitors are rated in storage capacity in JOULES since a
> joule is a WATT/SECOND. That way if we discharge a cap over a
> determined time base the we have a measure of real power or work that
> can be done. Don't mean to NIT-PICK, just trying to be helpfull.
> Remember what Tesla said about working around high voltage, especially
> large high voltage capacitors, "use one hand and keep the other in your
> pocket", that way you can possible prevent accidental electrocution.
> At, let's say 10,000 volts it wouldn't take much of a capacitor to
> prove to be quite lethal. Be carefull so we can hear from you in the
> future. Your Friend Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4478 DATE/TIME: 01/22/94 11:22
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : Jerry Decker (SYSOP)
> Subject: Comment
> Folder : Z, "Comments to the Sysop"
>
> Jerry: I'm not really annious to go to Denver, only practiced packing
> my bags three times last night. HA! HA! Sounds like a must trip for
> anyone remotely interested in energy and gravity. Boy to have Caithy,
> Searle, Tewari, Aspden and all the other countless authorities in one
> place will be the ultimate meeting, in addition to the earth shaking
> announcement that is coming out on 1 Feb. Will be a trip to remember.
> By the way, I got a call fromNick Holden down in Waco wanting your
> phone number. He wanted to arrange a time that he could see the rest
> of the video on the crystals. I told him hell no, he would wait and see
> the rest of the tape with the rest of us. I told him that youdeserved
> your privacy and as a friend not to impose on you for you were very
> busy and didn't cherish the thought of folks dropping by to see a video
> in your living room. I asked him why he didn't watch the second hour
> of the tape at the meeting? He said he was out in the resturant
> talking and missed it. I said well tough shit dude. Now wait till the
> next meeting like all the other folks. May I suggest that you
> immediately, if you have not done so already, go to Guy's and make a
> back-up copy just in case and hide it in a safe place. There is
> information on that tape that is worth a fortune which my have become
> obvious to you already. That tape is easily worth $100.00 a copy for
> the information is incredible. Just think, I haven't seenthe last part
> yet. Will probably start building my own space craft after seeing the
> anti-gravity part. HA! HA! What a trip. I would really like to go to
> Denver with you for we could really bend one another's ears all the way
> up and back. Wouldn't be boreing for sure. I guess you know that we
> will probably have about 10 folks from Dallas wanting to go. This
> presents a problem such as Nick and Leonard not having reliable
> transportation. Should we play sheppard and tent the flock or simply
> say arrange your own transportation????? I told myself last year that
> I would not subject myself to Nick's cigarette smoke for 24 hours
> again. Problems already on the horizon. Some times I get the attitude,
> screw them all but they are friends so what do we do???? Don't mean to
> unload but you are a friend and will understand since you get it
> everyday. Call me if you get a chance. I am running one of those
> battery experiments at this moment, You know the batteries in parrallel
> getting their recharge from batteries in series trrough a 12 volt load.
> Looks interesting, now to set upsome fast transistorized switching etc.
> I'll look at you later. NORM
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4479 DATE/TIME: 01/22/94 11:47
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : GERALD O'DOCHARTY
> Subject: Capacitor Discharges
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Gerald: You are probably already aware of what I am going to say so
> dont' take offense for it is meant for the folks out there who don't
> really understand WATTS, KILLOWATTS or KILOWATT/HOURS. Remember that
> Tesla said that a capacitor is an amazing device for it allowed us the
> flexibility to store high voltage energy and release it at any time
> interval that we deamed oppropriate for our application. Let's look at
> an example. I have a bank of Energy Storage Capacitors that came from
> Oak Ridge, DOE made by Sangamo Electric. They are 12"x 12" x 30" in
> size and weigh 200# each. They are rated at 3000 JOULES @ 60,000 volts.
> I have a bank of them numbering 60 each which gives a total capacity of
> 180,000 JOULES. Now if I discharge this bank in 1 second @60 KV it
> would yield a current of 3 amps. What we are all familiar withis the
> electric meter which is watt/hours so this bank of capacitors would
> yield 50watt/hours,but if I discharge it in 1 millisecond the yield
> would be 180 MEGAWATTS. Then if I were able to discharge it in 1
> microsecond then the pulse would be 1.8 GIGAWATTS. The problem is in
> the fact that the whole bank would explode and devistate everthing
> arround it. We can't get conductors big enough to handle the currents
> associated with an instantaneous discharge of this magnitude. The
> bottom line of the discussion is that power is based on time and the
> capacitor allows us to compress a lot of power in a short time frame.
> Be carefull and good luck. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4480 DATE/TIME: 01/22/94 12:26
> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Capacitor Discharges
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Just another note to users about capacitor discharges - Tesla also
> commented that while an inductor can store and discharge a small amount
> of power, a capacitor is the most incredible method of storing and
> discharging electricity. He also said that a stick of dynamite was
> like a "comsumptive breath" compared to the discharge of a capacitor.
> Caps can deliver not only a huge voltage, but simultaneously a huge
> current - in inductors the current always lags the voltage, so the
> delivered power just is not the same! >> Bert
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4482 DATE/TIME: 01/22/94 13:09
> From : JIM SHAFFER -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: (R) Jack Van Impe and Rexanna
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Well, at least he *mentioned* the Taos Hum.......
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4483 DATE/TIME: 01/22/94 13:12
> From : JIM SHAFFER -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: (R) Neutral Spike/Dream
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> On the subject of very long wire antennas -- I've never used one, but
> there's a design called a Beverage antenna (that's the inventor's name)
> that looks just like any other longwire antenna but because of its
> *great* length, reacts differently. Whereas a "short" long-wire isn't
> very directional, a Beverage is *highly* directional. If I remember
> rightly, Beverages are used chiefly for longwave (i.e. ELF/VLF!) and
> mediumwave, and the lower reaches of the shortwave band.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4484 DATE/TIME: 01/22/94 15:29
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Comment
> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>
> Hi Norm! Glad to see you can empathasize with some of the
> problems...they are minor and not really worth bitching about, but
> sometimes they just pile up and I have to say no, hell no and use the
> excuse that I am busy...yes, with things that I WANT TO DO...hehehe...
> Anyway, as to the number of folks who might want to go, perhaps we
> could pool our money and charter a bus??? I don't think that would be
> such a problem but never looked at that before....maybe better yet, we
> could rent a van type vehicle....if there were more than 4....
> I too detest smoke and you know Joel is a heavy smoker himself...so
> what to do...maybe we can give them a pacifier or something....surely
> they can hold it for a bit...geez, I just hate to smell it and have it
> on my clothes....never understood how anyone who does smoke cannot
> understand it about the NORMAL people who can control their desires....
> Well, I just been typing on the other computer today and have not
> really done anything productive....just kind of wanted to lay back and
> screw off...
> Projects that I need to be working on are the Keelynet conversion to
> the new version...install the mail reader, install the new Qmodem and
> provide a test drive on the BBS for anyone who wants to give it a shot,
> work on the lucid dream circuit, etc....
> You know the thing about personal time, is I hear so many people who
> WANT something....rarely just to offer anything ideally in exchange for
> something else...usually just a gimme attitude...that is one reason why
> I dread answering the phone...almost like aluminum siding or other
> phone salespeople....geez, it will still take 7 to 10 more years before
> I can retire on my investments....a slow growth but will give me all
> the freedom I need to invest fulltime in other things.
> Well, back to loafing....hehehehe..later...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4486 DATE/TIME: 01/22/94 15:45
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : JIM SHAFFER
> Subject: (R) Neutral Spike/Dream
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Jim! That is most interesting...probably because they are closer to
> the full wavelength rather than 1/4 or 1/2 wave antennas....
> I think Larry Springs idea of spheres of force that propagate from all
> frequency manifestations is correct or much closer to the truth than
> simple compression/rarefaction of a medium....and the relationship to
> ELF/VLF fits even with the quarter/half wave lengths because these
> waves are SOOOO long....>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4488 DATE/TIME: 01/22/94 22:15
> From : ANDREAS KAUPERT
> To : ALL
> Subject: Cook inertial propulsion unit
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Has anyone read the article in this months Extrodinary Science about
> Dr. Cook's new form of propulsion. He claims to have finally found a
> new form of propulsion that DOES'NT use any form of external force for
> propulsion. Also he is suppposed to have several WORKING models and
> have supposedly shown these to NASA with great interest. Has anyone
> seen any of his technology or heard any more about him? It says in the
> article that this technology could really hurt the vested interest, and
> that he wants to make the info as broadly available as possible. If he
> really wants to protect from have this technology from getting shelved
> or worse by the goverment or other vested interests, I feel he should
> give or loan the info to the Keelynet. I would like to hear from anyone
> on their comments regarding this info and message. Thanks!
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4490 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 01:25
> From : WILLIAM ALLEN
> To : ALL
> Subject: COILBAK RESPONSE FROM CHAD PRYSON
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> I HAVE BEEN SENDING FILES AND WORKING WITH CHAD PRYSON. WE WORKED
> TOGETHER IN KNOXVILLE, TN, AND THEN I MOVED TO TEXAS... DUE TO THE
> LONG DISTANCE CALLS, HE DOESN'T CALL OFTEN, SO HE SENT THIS TO ME
> FOR UPLOAD TO KEELYNET....... HE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE HENDERSHOT
> GENERATOR FOR SOME TIME, AND HAS WOUND A BEAUTIFUL PAIR OF BASKET COILS
> AND HAS BECOME EXPERT AT MAKING THE CAPACITORS CALLED FOR IN THE TEXT.
> ALAS, THE DEVICE STILL DOES NOT PUT OUT ANY POWER. CHAD DOES THE BEST
> LOOKING ASSEMBLY WORK I HAVE SEEN, AND IS A VERY GOOD TECHNICIAN. HE
> UMPED AT THE COILBAK AS AN IDEA, AND IMMEDIATELY TRIED HIS HAND AT
> THE CIRCUIT. FOLLOWING ARE HIS RESPONCES:
> **********************************************************
>
> To KeelyNet
>
> Jan. 3rd, 1994
>
> RE: Coilbak circuit submitted by Joel McClain
>
>
> As I have experimented with the Coilbak circuit, I have
> obtained no favorable results as yet. I would like to
> point out two critical factors in the circuit design:
>
> 1.) Regardless of where the comparator reference voltage
> is set, the SCR has been triggered and will not turn
> off by any subsequent action of the gate voltage from
> the comparator output.
>
> Since the SCR is conducting, the sawtooth ramp will
> continue to maintain bias on the SCR anode, ensuring
> that it will conduct the entire ramp from triggering
> to maximum amplitude. There is no way to inhibit the
> coil charge cycle at 90 degrees.
>
> 2.) Due to the extremely short duration of the sawtooth
> "low" state, I have not found an SCR that will respond
> to such a short transient and reset before the next
> ramp begins. The only exception to this is pulling the
> sawtooth waveform below ground by using a negative
> supply in addition to the positive battery supply.
> This, of course, tends to negate the entire purpose of
> the circuit since that supply cannot be replenished.
>
>
> This has been my experience to date. I am normally not a
> skeptic regarding such matters, (I always hope everyone has
> altruistic intentions) but something seems to be missing
> or incorrect.
>
> Have I missed something?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Chad Pryson
> 3708 Douglas Dam Rd.
> Kodak, TN 37764
> 615-933-8025
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4492 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 02:02
> From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: Capacitor Discharges
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Thanks Norm for that clarification. Actually I was looking over the
> chapter on that device while writing and trying to find the joules
> rating which turned out to be about 1000 joules, but it was late and my
> eyes couldn't focus anymore so I settled for the watts rating which I
> was able to find. I think that alone was pressty impressive if
> deliverable for any significant length of time. The device is said to
> be capable of exploding wire etc. You know you mentioned that we don't
> have a lot of experience in these types of discharges, and I expect
> that its just such sort of unexplored areas where we are likely to find
> the anomalies that will provide clues to the next physics. One thing
> about Nikola Tesla that makes him interesting was that he is still one
> of the only ones ever to experiment with the very high power high
> voltage discharges that characterized his work. There were many
> anomalies and clues right there in the well known literature about him.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4493 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 02:12
> From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: Garrett carb
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Jerry! I just looked at the water electrolytic carb file and really
> enjoyed it. I did some calculations and here are some results;
> 1Kw/h is equivalent to 3413 Btu/hr.
> You mentioned that the theoretical yield of hydrogen from electrolysis
> could be 79 Kw per 1,000 cubic feet of hydrogen. (I assumed you meant
> Kw/r) This would yield a production rate of;
> 1Kw/h / 12.65 cu.ft. or 4111 Btu/h
> I that is correct then that is an efficiency of 120% assuming no other
> losses.
> Well I don't think you will power a car at this rate, but maybe it
> could work as a ground based accumulator of some sort. The Hydrogen
> production rate gots to be better. I think a hydrogen fuel cell will
> probably be the way to go. Pure electrical can be so much ore efficient
> that combustion engines if we put serious efforts toward that.
> -later. Gerald
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4494 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 08:08
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : ANDREAS KAUPERT
> Subject: (R) Cook inertial propulsion unit
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Andreas! There are several patents for what are termed "Inertial
> Drive" or Kinemassic thrust units....most of these use an eccentric
> with a piston or weight to translate a rotary force to a linear force
> at one point of the rotation. As the wheel rotates around to the point
> where the desired thrust is to be applied a spring loaded weight is
> THROWN out which causes the mass to move slightly in that
> direction...the spring then resets and awaits the next thrust. The
> movements are slight but can be at high frequency for a stepping drive.
> There is even a patent for a toy based on this process but I don't know
> if it was ever manufactured and sold...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4495 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 08:14
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : GERALD O'DOCHARTY
> Subject: (R) Garrett carb
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Gerald! The point of the Garrett carburetor was not as a free
> energy type device, but rather that electrical energy could be used to
> produce combustible gases for burning in an engine FROM WATER, easily
> obtainable and with no ecological side effects.
> The particular intriguing point was it could be run in any engine with
> minimal damage or equivalent to that of a gasoline/diesel powered
> engine. Calculations are fine, but those are all based on hydrogen
> alone as the fuel.....the only way to get tangible results is with live
> experiments....that is one of the things Tesla said that I totally
> agree with, you can jiggle mathematics all day, but if you can't
> translate it to an experiment, it is worthless.
> Hopefully by this summer, I can at least convert a lawnmower engine
> over to get some numbers. These will be based on the setup...I am
> thinking of a generator attached to the lawnmower engine....that
> generator would then sustain a battery network which would sustain a
> load AND supply power to carry out the hydrolysis. This would then
> give tangible evidence by:
> 1) Monitoring the output current (unloaded to the batteries)
> 2) Monitoring the current FROM the batteries to produce hydrolysis
> 3) Monitor the current for the TOTAL load
> 4) Keeping track of how much water is used and replenishment needed
> to sustain the operation of the device.
> By doing a test over a period of time, the information could be sampled
> by a computer with a scanning line to jump from one measurement to
> another (I have designed and tested a circuit for this) which can be
> recorded in a spreadsheet...this will show relationships as well as
> trends to greater or lesser power.
> Depending on the amount of power produced by the generator, the load
> can be increased until a maximum is determined. This will provide some
> useful data. The other option is to use an old vehicle and duplicate
> the original experiment, monitoring the current used and produced....
> The bottomline here is, WILL THE UNIT SUSTAIN ITS OWN HYDROLYSIS
> PROCESS? That is, will it produce sufficient current to keep the
> batteries charged, feed the hydrolyzers and run the other electrical
> requirements of a vehicle? And if not, HOW much off are we? There are
> lots of tricks about generators and alternators regarding shunts that
> can be used to 'pump' up the output, and I think we all fairly well
> concur that hybridization is the key until we get sufficient practical
> experiments to make a single type of technology that will sustain
> itself without outside inputs...later...>>> Jerry
> ...BTW, I got your Piezos and will mail out this week...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4496 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 09:25
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- PRIVATE -- --
> RECEIVED --
> To : Jerry Decker (SYSOP)
> Subject: Comment
> Folder : Z, "Comments to the Sysop"
>
> Jerry: Today I'm going to start cutting out the parts for the pyramid
> transmutation device we saw in the video tape. Since this is a totally
> passive device I think it wise to build a simple version and put it in
> the spare bed-room and let it do it's thing. Sort of like that mushroom
> growing, all you have to do is watch the results. Heck, if we get a
> gold nugget from a vile of mercury then we could quietly build you
> research facility and drive people nuts as to where the money is
> comming from. I guess you could say a rich unkle died and willed you
> his fortune or you cashed in you wally-mart stock. HA! HA! Well I am
> going to the shop to cut out some triangle particle boarb bases for the
> pyramids or better yet the tetrahedrons to be mounted to. I will keep
> you posted as to progress. Since I haven't seen the last hour of the
> tape on anti-gravity, is there any danger of my tetrahedron flying
> away???? HA! HA! Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4497 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 11:45
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Comment
> Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega"
>
> Hi Norman! I would think lead would be preferable to mercury, not only
> for cost but alchemically speaking, since they used LEAD as a source
> material, rather than mercury...
> It would be a hoot to be able to make some gold...if it reconverts back
> to lead, which I dont' think it will, then it would not matter because
> by then it might be a ring or something....hehehe...
> Well, I built a pyramid out of dowel rods and hot glue, very easy to do
> and the form is the main thing....but I think I will duplicate Les
> Browns experiment but using thick copper wire, probably #12 or so and
> soldering to form the tets....will use a lead fishing weight suspended
> in the beam...
> Then just see what happens with checks every few days....
> One other thing, Tetrahedrons are not sensitive to N/S polarity because
> of their form....or so says Verne Cameron, one of the primo dowsers who
> ever lived...he has been dead now for about 20 years and is the fellow
> who developed the AURAMETER...a spring loaded dowsing rod that was said
> to be super sensitive...he would measure the energy and spin from
> various forms such as pyramids, tets, spirals, lines...etc...
> Nough for now, later...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4498 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 12:46
> From : MIKE GATEWOOD
> To : ALL
> Subject: infinite closed universe theory false?
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> I am mainly writing this to see if I am wrong. I have no idea because
> no one at my school knows anything about it so I can't get any help. I
> hope someone will write back and prove me wrong or right. Anyway, my
> theory goes as such: If we have a closed universe, hypotheticly, and
> there were black holes and worm holes in it that could transport matter
> to other demensions then eventually we would not have enough matter to
> sustain a closed universe, so there is no such thing as an infinite
> closed universe. It's pretty simple, so I hope someone will take the
> time out to make a comment on this.
> One other thing. If we do have a closed universe, and when it
> closes it condenses into a very dense mass then wouldn't it create a
> black hole or a worm hole which would theoreticly transport our
> universe into another demension, probably a lower demension. If this
> is true then we have an infinite number of demensions. The next
> demension our universe will travel to will be the second demension.
> What will happen when it gets to our "0" demension, will it implode in
> on itself at 90 degree angles to create a "negative" demension. So
> what we think of as the 3rd demension is only one of the infinite
> number of demensions that have been going on for etrnity and will still
> keep going on for eternity unless my first theory is correct. Or is it
> all timed out in such a way that the universe will loose enough mass by
> the time it reaches the "0" demension so it will become an open
> universe instead of traveling to "negative" demensions.
> --------------------
> NOTE: This message has been FORWARDED to Jerry Decker by
> Mike Gatewood on 01/23/94 at 13:07
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4499 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 12:46
> From : MIKE GATEWOOD -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) (FORWARDED)
> Subject: infinite closed universe theory false?
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> NOTE: The following message was originally addressed to ALL
> and was forwarded to you by Mike Gatewood on 01/23/94 at 13:07
> --------------------
> I am mainly writing this to see if I am wrong. I have no idea because
> no one at my school knows anything about it so I can't get any help. I
> hope someone will write back and prove me wrong or right. Anyway, my
> theory goes as such: If we have a closed universe, hypotheticly, and
> there were black holes and worm holes in it that could transport matter
> to other demensions then eventually we would not have enough matter to
> sustain a closed universe, so there is no such thing as an infinite
> closed universe. It's pretty simple, so I hope someone will take the
> time out to make a comment on this.
> One other thing. If we do have a closed universe, and when it
> closes it condenses into a very dense mass then wouldn't it create a
> black hole or a worm hole which would theoreticly transport our
> universe into another demension, probably a lower demension. If this
> is true then we have an infinite number of demensions. The next
> demension our universe will travel to will be the second demension.
> What will happen when it gets to our "0" demension, will it implode in
> on itself at 90 degree angles to create a "negative" demension. So
> what we think of as the 3rd demension is only one of the infinite
> number of demensions that have been going on for etrnity and will still
> keep going on for eternity unless my first theory is correct. Or is it
> all timed out in such a way that the universe will loose enough mass by
> the time it reaches the "0" demension so it will become an open
> universe instead of traveling to "negative" demensions.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4501 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 13:37
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : WILLIAM ALLEN
> Subject: COILBAK
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi William,
> Thank you for relaying Chad's message. It's the first really
> thoughtful response I've gotten since the file was uploaded. The SCR,
> as Chad states, is a "once on, stays on" device, and the bias applied
> via the inverting comparator is used as a delay trigger, resetting as
> soon as the current drops below the min. holding level. The objective
> is to hold the SCR off AFTER each half cycle of sawtooth, until the
> discharge of the inductive kick from the coil. This depende on the
> current dropping low, which it does, to zero in fact, and the inverted
> output keeps the gate turned off. At resonance, the circuit will begin
> to "breathe", and at that point, the entire aggregate is able to
> synchronize around the total of its components. It may be easier to
> accomplish this with a FET, or possibly a darlington array if someone
> wants to try a bipolar input. If not, the SCR will do.û Measured
> output was achieved via resistive load of lamps, and in this small
> power circuit, the gain was able to light a couple of 12VDC lamps
> before losing unity. Follow the concept, and try other components, as
> you choose. It's the concept that exists in nature, as well in chasses
> where the spikes have to be eliminated to protect CMOS, but having
> created the spikes, it is a matter of tuning the circuit to resonance.
> Without knowing much about the coils that Chad has wound, I think that
> maybe resonance is also missing there, at least that would seem to be
> the most reasonable guess. Please keep me posted as Chad continues to
> work with these designs. Thank you.
> Joel McClain
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4502 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 15:39
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : MIKE GATEWOOD
> Subject: (R) infinite closed universe theory fals
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Mike! My understanding of the physical universe is that we can
> travel in it using standard propulsion methods. As to dimensions,
> there are several ways of thinking about them.
> The most basic is one which makes the most sense, i.e. there is a
> positive dimension and a negative dimension (call it antimatter if you
> wish)...on OUR side, photons or any radiant energy or mass is a result
> of a hyperspatial gateway or hole through the fabric of space FROM
> "hyperspace"/antimatter INTO our dimension.
> So any radiating energy or mass in this dimension is ENTERING FROM
> HYPERSPACE....on the other hand, electrons are passing through these
> hyperspatial gateways FROM our dimension, INTO hyperspace.
> Note that photons are ELECTRONS when viewed from a hyperspatial
> viewpoint, and electrons are PHOTONS when viewed from a hyperspatial
> viewpoint. So, you get this continual flow from this dimension back
> into hyperspace and then from hyperspace back into this dimension, thus
> making for a very large closed system. (I hope this is not too
> confusing.)
> As to dimensions, they are phase shifted realities that co-exist with
> our own universe and also CREATE the hyperspatial universe which is the
> mirror image (FULLY 180 degrees phase shifted) of our universe.
> Thus, by altering the phase angle of an object, you can shift
> dimensions or realities, by altering the phase 180 degrees, you pop
> into the hyperspace region and become a mirror image.
> I guess, you could think of us as living within a giant SOLITON or
> bubble...the yin/yang symbol best shows it, as the movement from energy
> into matter, then back into energy, forever or until sufficient changes
> are made to jump to the next order of complexity.
> It all fits in quite well with chaos/dissipative structure theories and
> experiments....and in my favorite quote "escape to a higher ORDER".
> These Orders are greater complexities or matrices, encompassing many
> lower orders within their very being....kind of like all the atoms,
> making all the molecules, making all the cells, making all the organs,
> making US....this follows with matter AND even energy to some degree.
> We are a cooperative of units which work together for a common end
> product. So in a manner of speaking, THERE IS A GOD (higher order).
> So, two basic universes, one is THE UNIVERSE (in which we currently
> live) and the other is this HYPERSPACE region, being the mirror image.
> Since it IS a mirror image, it is thus 180 degrees out of phase with us
> and so everything FLIPS when it FULLY transits from one to the other.
> Dimensions are phase angles..i.e....10,11,14,22 degrees all the way up
> to 180....which then becomes hyperspatial.
> And BEYOND 180, the spin direction comes into play and we go even
> further with 181 up to 360 or full circle....so there are infinite
> gradations of "dimensions"....but nature works very simply using the
> binary system....the gradations of "dimension" allow infinite
> varieties of manifestation. (think of it as breathing, expand,
> contract..)
> There are many stories regarding the above concepts, some from UFO
> contact cases, others from biological experiments, still others from
> experiments with mass and energy...
> In all cases, a shift was performed by technology or accident (natural).
> If an entity is manifested and grown in any given dimension, then a
> time/phase lock is encoded WITHIN THE MATRIX of the entity or object.
> If that entiry or object were subjected to a high intensity energetic
> disturbance, with the proper phase difference from ITS OWN DIMENSION,
> (and for that you need some kind of LOCK for the dimension you are
> COMING FROM), then by a sustained projection, you could move from one
> dimension or spatial or TIME location to another, depending on the
> nature of the energetic disturbance. (note that TIME is vortex
> dependent and is very dangerous because of relative spatial
> displacement as a mass moves through the universe)
> A sudden shock could send an entity who happened to be at the focal
> point of that shock, INTO another dimension for a short period of time
> and then the entity would be jerked back when the field concentration
> in its matrix went below a given magnitude, so that it would snap back
> to its home dimension. Reference Bearden's Excalibur Briefing
> regarding TULPOIDS as dimensionally shifted entities, be they UFOs,
> Bigfoot, LochNess, whatever....and we must not forget ARCHETYPEs when
> considering such manifestions that disappear without a trace after
> being witnessed.
> If you saw the Star Trek episode yesterday, note the holodeck losing
> "resolution" due to phase shifting....the same thing, except this is
> relative to a specific mass rather than over a wide area...however, the
> Bermuda Triangle and other anomalous areas could be subject to such
> dimensional shifts for short durations...
> I know of some experiments that might give more tangible answers and
> prove or disprove all this, but it would take time and bucks to see it
> proven.
> One of the problems with tapping the virtual flux/ZPE is that energy
> converts to mass through the slowing down of composite signatures. If
> too much energy is pulled out of one area, it can cause JUST SUCH PHASE
> SHIFTS for all kinds of bizarre things to happen.
> Think of the surface of the Earth as being covered by a layer of water,
> this water is the virtual flux.
> If you hold out your palm over this water, and push down very rapidly,
> you will create a "sinkhole" which will go down as deep as you have
> pushed your hand.
> Of course, the surrounding water will RUSH in and fill up that hole as
> nature SEEKS UNITY, in this case a flat, uninterrupted fluid surface.
> Now, with regard to tapping free energy, AND CONSIDERING this
> hyperspatial tapping as a SOURCE, then we must create such a sinkhole
> in the surrounding energetic flux.....the energy would come from
> multiple hyperspatial gateways created and SOURCED from hyperspace in
> the form of photons passing FROM hyperspace INTO our universe to flip and
> become electrons which we can then tap into.
> The problem thus becomes one of degree of tapping, we can only take so
> much over a period of time, before WE CAUSE a depression in the area as
> a direct result of REMOVING too much energy. This then will produce the
> bizarre time and/or dimensional shifts, not to mention unhealthy zones
> which can weaken, maim or kill life. So we have to be careful.
> The ideal thing would be to be able to monitor the virtual flux
> background so we would KNOW when we were taking TOO much and could
> reduce our consumption or shut the damn thing off.
> Anyway, I am going WAY too far on this, but you asked and I might be
> wrong, but it is closer than most I have read....all a matter of belief
> anyway, until we get tangible machines and monitoring equipment....
> later...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4504 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 18:09
> From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: Re: Upload of RCKDUST1.ASC
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Jerry,
> I just uploaded three files about rockdust, Rokdust1,2,3.asc.
> Enjoy!
> Bob
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4506 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 19:12
> From : MARK GRAALMAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: TESLAC
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Bert, I was just wondering if your sysop had gotten TESLAC installed
> in the system files as yet, also how did your transformer rewinding
> project turn out?
> I don't know if I had told you or not, but I'm now running Pandora
> at 5KW input and have no problem getting 8 foot discharges.
> I hope to get a new 12"dia. sec. wound this summer.
> See ya, Mark Graalman TCBA # 1399
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4513 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 23:34
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : IDAN MANDELBAUM
> Subject: (R) tesbuck
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Idan,
> The Tesla coil that I use is not a spark=shooter, but it is reasonably
> reliable and does what it's supposed to do. It's the one provided in
> the file TESLABLD.ZIP, from Steve Gantt, and with a few minor
> modifications, it's pretty well bullet-proof. Takes time and patience
> to wind it, but the extra effort is more than rewarded. If you build
> it, let me know, and I'll tell you the modifications.
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4514 DATE/TIME: 01/23/94 23:37
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Levitation and Ley Lines
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Just read a most fascinating book, called "Mysteries of the Mexican
> Pyramids", by Peter Tompkins. Even if you're not interested in
> pyramids, there is a strong connection shown (Chapter 23) between
> pyramids and other stone (Henge) structures, ley lines of the magnetic
> grid, orgone energy, ala Wilhelm Reich, AND the plasmic state of water,
> ala Keely. It's all connected, so regardless of your particular slant,
> all roads lead to the same places. As to what Norm has been saying
> lately, there is VERY strong confirmatiob of energy as a result of the
> crystalline stricture of earth's iron core, and much more. Go to your
> neighborhood library and check this one out. It's a WILD RIDE.
> Joel
>
> cc: Jerry Decker
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4517 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 02:50
> From : CLARENCE SATTERLEE -- RECEIVED --
> To : BRYANT STAVELY
> Subject: (R) SUBLIMINAL PROGRAMMING
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Sir Bryant, Hope your vacation accomplished the proper effect. Every
> vacation we've takin has caused me to take a break and do something
> simple like go back to work. just joking.
> After spending 3quarters of a mil on legal fees to research the
> legalities, (not all my funds) I'm certain the union being established
> is for the best.
> the union would first establish it's sovereignty and only then it could
> be constitutionally protect.
> the union only establishes those who are Lord Jesus's and adhere to New
> Testament standards and fundamental beliefs, regardless of the persons
> brand name Christian association.
> The union is to protect the members from rouge ministers or goverment
> agencies that prohibit or infringe established New Testament standards
> i can relate more to you later. Is ther a way I can send you somthing
> by mail ? Are you in the Dallas area ? I live in Rockwall, Tx. Just
> moved hear a couple months ago form Mo.
> It's late and I just came in at 2o'clock im the morning and need to
> sleep for meetings in the morning. Hope to hear from you soon.
> Linda and Clarence
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4520 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 08:42
> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
> To : MARK GRAALMAN
> Subject: (R) TESLAC
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Mark, Jerry Decker has promised to get your program on-line soon. I
> have not re-wound my power transformer since a friend of mine has let
> me borrow an excellent 12.5 kv 5 kva unit to use. 8 ft. from Pandora
> is very good! >> Bert
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4521 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 09:00
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: Negative Spike
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Joel: Thanks for your input on the book about the Mexican Pyramids.
> Yes the stricturing of the iron is exactly what we have been discussing
> as to the method of popping the free electrons in the iron atoms free.
> in the large capacitor run/start motors that I described the magnetic
> field becomes super-saturated causing the electron or negative energy
> flow directly out of the iron to be manifested in the earth ground or
> neutral side of the line. I am quite sure that the some thing is
> occuring in the molten core of this planet because of the magnetic flux
> reversal at the "BLOCK WALL" which would account for the constant
> molten state. We are literly sitting on a massive negative energy
> generator and from time to time we see strange manisfestations of this
> form of energy on the surface to which physisist have no explanation.
> Keep up the good work, for it's input like yours that will solve the
> free energy equation and give us the simple over-unity devices which we
> seek. Your friend Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4522 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 09:21
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BOB ALDRICH
> Subject: (R) Re: Upload of RCKDUST1.ASC
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bob! Thanks, will inspect them probably this weekend...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4523 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 09:22
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : MARK GRAALMAN
> Subject: (R) Comment
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Mark! I will transfer it over after this message, though haven't
> had a chance to look at it myself...thanks for the file..>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4526 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 09:40
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) TESLAC
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bert! Go for it, TESLAC.ZIP is now in the PD section...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4527 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 12:24
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Negative Spike
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norm,
> I have to confess, that I didn't understand at first exactly where you
> were going with the iron core, but from the messages, obviously Jerry
> and Woody DID understand, so with the extra "homework" I've been doing,
> I am with you now. Please keep me up to date as you continue to study
> this. Thank you!!
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4528 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 13:22
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN
> To : ALL
> Subject: Orgone Energy
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> OK, maybe I'm way off base here, so somebody please correct me.
> Wilhelm Reich's Orgone Energy box was layered with organic/inorganic
> materials, and generated both heat and healthful energy, or so goes the
> story. Einstein couldn't figure it out, and the gov't threw Reich in
> the can, after burning his books.
> Now, anyone who has gardened and made a compost heap has noticed the
> heat coming from the pile. Sunlight is normally associated with the
> heat, but sunlight would only heat the TOP, and the inside should be
> cool from evaporation, except it isn't, it's hot.
> In the book that I mentioned, There is reference to TELLURIC energy,
> which is the positive energy created when cosmic radiation passes
> through the IRON CORE, and comes up from below. That's how plants
> create more energy than they consume. Also, the effect is similar to
> standing below a ley line, as Jerry noticed where the tree branches
> twist under the increase of healthful energy. So, any compost pile can
> be used as an energy source...bacteria don't have body temperatures as
> far as I know, so THEY aren't generating the heat. The trick is to
> create the EFFECT, as Reich did, with organic materials that respond to
> positive life energy, while keeping the material from being decayed due
> to bacteria. Norm, it's getting interestinger all the time!
> I think that a shoe box lined with aluminum foil and some layers of
> ordinary materials would be all that is needed to start testing this.
> Who's with me, and wants to try this and publish their results?
> Joel McClain
>
> cc: Jerry Decker
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4530 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 15:56
> From : GARRIE WILSON
> To : ALL
> Subject: aids
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> I have some articles relating to aids and the government, they discuss
> how the gov. made the virus. If anyone would like for me to upload them
> just leave me mail saying so.
> Garrie Wilson
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4531 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 17:07
> From : WOODY MOFFITT -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: misc.
> Folder : E, "Special Associates Area Omega"
>
> Hi, Norm. I appreciate the fact that you are working with iron as a
> medium for zpe tapping. Though there are several simple ways to tap
> ambient energy (heat, V-grad, etc.), the real prize is still the zpe.
> I like the idea of flux reversal at saturation, but I tend to question
> this type of approach on the basis of COMPLEXITY, i.e., success depends
> on finetuning of cranky semiconductors, etc., which can create a lot of
> false failures (just a nano or 2 difference in switching time, et
> al...). This is not to say I don't think the approach is valid, only
> that it may be difficult to stabilize such a device (unless I'm missing
> something here). Re the V-grad origin - I personally think that it
> takes more than secondary muon showers and solar wind to explain this
> phenomenon. The mag properties of the earth must be accounted for, as
> well as several other energetic factors (I can't be more specific now,
> but I would love to hear anything you have to offer on this matter).
> Time is short, but there is much more to look at here....
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4535 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 21:32
> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: (R) Orgone Energy
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Joel, Norm is most interested in your note on bacterial decay
> producing heat, since bacteria may not have "body temperature".Norm has
> a teeny tiny thermocouple that he will use to test the temperature of a
> single bacterium -and will produce a definitive answer to this perplexing
> question. (I'm sorry, I have this illness which prevents me from being
> serious ALL the time!) >> Bert
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4536 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 21:49
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: (R) Orgone Energy
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Joel! There are several types of machines that are supposed to
> generate power based on these principles.....some claim it is simply
> methane....others that it uses Joseph Caters' Soft Electrons....hard
> electrons are then normal ones that we experience daily and are like
> bowling balls...once the hard outside layer is stripped away (using
> phase conjugation or other means), you have this mushy ball that can be
> INSTANTLY absorbed into tissue or used to supercharge other materials
> for fuel...
> One device, is a box that is essentially an orgone box with an input
> and an output....there are MANY convolutions within this box which
> actually collect the orgone. It is claimed that air sucked into the
> input will pass through the convolutions and become supercharged with
> orgone...once it comes out of the output, it can be burned as a gas to
> drive an automobile, etc....
> Another device is a description from an Aussie friend, David Oates
> about a fellow he knew who built a 6X10 foot pit that was about 6 feet
> deep. This pit was filled with chicken and/or pig manure (I forget
> which, though it might have been a combination)...a metal pole was
> mounted at each end of the pit....and cables attached to the poles
> provided enough power to run his lighting for his farm! David did not
> know if the poles were constructed of dissimilar metals.
> As to healing, these soft electrons can be absorbed into the body
> according to German researcher Joanna Budwig...you must use a mixture
> of honey, cottage cheese and linseed oil, blend til it looks like
> yogurt, then eat that daily...this creates some kind of absorptive
> layer in the cells of the body...then you use this lightbox contraption
> that is essentially a bunch of front surface reflecting mirrors. A
> very bright bulb is the source and the light is reflected thousands of
> times before it actually leaves the box....as the light reflects onto
> itself, it peels away layers from the photons thus making them very
> easy to "digest" by these prepared tissues....they are getting
> spectacular results with cancer and many other diseases.
> As to a motor force, Orgone is becomes highly chaotic when trapped in
> an orgone box and when it reaches a certain density and can't find a
> way out, it becomes extremely agitated....this is one of the basic
> principles for a motor force....you simply allow for a controlled point
> of egress, i.e. you let it out, WHERE you want to let it out....using a
> metal vane like an oldstyle paddlewheel to drive a generator...as the
> orgone energy flows, so moves the paddlewheel and the thing provides
> power.
> The 2nd motor force uses an a radioactive element. When subjected to
> orgone energy, the decay rate is greatly accelerated which can be
> tapped by a geiger type device.....Reich developed something he called
> a VACOR tube to tape into this....nowadays, we would use a series of
> atomic batteries (i.e. devices which absorb alpha, gamma, beta or other
> particles and directly convert to electricity)....this however is quite
> dangerous as proven in Reich's experiments that produced DOR
> (destructive Orgone Energy)...well, work calls...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4537 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 22:02
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : GARRIE WILSON
> Subject: (R) aids
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Garrie! We have all that, thanks anyway...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4538 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 23:16
> From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
> To : TERRY BASTIAN
> Subject: (R) efficient batteries
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Terry,
> Ok, here's the scoop on this liquid electricity. The man I know who
> told me is getting older, and so couldn't recall all that I remembered,
> but he did come up with some more details.
> He couldn't recall the man's name, but he is known in the midwest
> for his invention that waters farms, sort of a very high-powered water
> pistol.. It irrigates a farm with one nozzle... it shoots water
> half a mile or more! He almost recalle the name, but not quite, but
> said it rhymes with stag or stap or something.. He said that someone
> else did some experiments along the same lines, that he copied what
> this man did, and that this other man disappeared. Whether he left
> suddenly or mysteriously or just moved away, or was abducted is not
> known.
> This man did say that the liquid electricity battery was doubly
> enclosed (possibly for insulation from heat) and that it was
> charged for several hours at a very high voltage and it eventually
> got extremely heavy. If you shook it the electricity sloshed around
> inside.
> He had built a small model, cooled by helium (although I thought
> my friend said nitrogen last time) that, if scaled up, per his
> calculations to a cubic foot, WOULD CONTAIN ENOUGH ENERGY TO LIGHT
> NEW YORK CITY FOR A WEEK. Also that this cubic foot of electricity
> WOULD WEIGH ABOUT TWO TONS.
> There is another such device, a different researcher, somewhere
> in Washington or Oregon possibly, who has something similar called
> the Trinium battery. Don't know if it's exactly the same thing, but
> if you want I could trace this down also.
>
> AND, here is another one.
>
> Another type of battery was designed by a fellow named Joe Wallace
> of Phoenix, Arizona in the mid-fifties. This battery was TWO CUBIC
> INCHES, yet was comparable to the lead-acid car battery we know.
> And it would draw higher current. My friend saw one the size of a
> penny (single cell) that would produce hundreds of amps at 1-1.5
> volts!
> It was SILVER BASED; the electrolyte may have been silver
> chloride. One terminal was a paste and the other terminal was a
> solid terminal. There may be a way to trace this fellow down.
> However, some of the technology may be defense related, as
> Amphenol allowed him to demonstrate his battery to them
> (how nice of them) but they didn't want to buy his design, as
> they had a similar design which didn't work as well but was adequate
> for their use, which was used in the detonation of the Atomic Bomb!
>
> All for now!
> Bob
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4539 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 23:18
> From : BOB ALDRICH
> To : ANDREAS KAUPERT
> Subject: (R) Cook inertial propulsion unit
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Andreas,
> I know Bob Cook. I was instrumental in getting him set up
> in southern California in the eighties. I don't know where he is now,
> but I did see his machine which was mounted on a elevated track about
> three feet long. It was about one inch higher at one end. At the time e
> he demonstrated the machine it was not working properly, as one of the
> rotors was damaged. He hadn't enough money to keep it repaired to even
> demonstrate it. But I DID see it move UP the track. It was on rollers,
> and I don't believe there was a way it could have done it except by
> inertialess. Unfortunately most of the other people who saw the
> demonstration were potential investors and mosly they were not
> impressed. But it was on free-rolling rollers, it couldn't have moved
> up that track any other way to my knowledge. In his book "The Death of
> Rocketry" he showed another model that was hanging from rafters by
> wires, and it was hanging off to the side. I talked to his wife who
> rode in a boat across a swimming pool propelled by another version.
> I suggest get ahold of him and buy his book Death of Rocketry and
> read it for the theory of how it works, it's quite amazing!
> Bob
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4540 DATE/TIME: 01/24/94 23:27
> From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: 3.3 Mhz Battery Charger
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Jerry,
> I was reading about using 3.3 mhz in a charger to
> recharge lead-acid batteries sometime back, and that
> J.C. Whitney catalog had this battery charger. I ordered
> a J.C. Whitney catalog so I could buy one, but I see
> nothing in here about it. There is ONE battery charger
> (item 89xx0708B) called an Auomatic Battery Charger/
> Maintainer on page 170 of catalog no. 562D, but it
> mentions nothing about this capability to rejuvinate
> or eliminate the sulfate! Any comments? Anyone else
> know if this is the charger?
> Thanks,
> Bob Aldrich
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4541 DATE/TIME: 01/25/94 03:09
> From : CLARENCE SATTERLEE -- RECEIVED --
> To : BRYANT STAVELY
> Subject: (R) SUBLIMINAL PROGRAMMING
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Mr. Bryant, somthing I forgot to mention, the union is being
> established to help protect the people in the places like work, public,
> home, and others. not to have anyone withdraw from life but to be
> protected in it. the union is not promoting any single Christian type
> group or their leadership. If anything, the union will protect it's
> members from church leadership.
> A main issueThe union has two parts, first the Lord Jesus's People
> Union and then Lord Jesus's Taxpayers Association.
> must sleep, more later.
> Linda and Clarence
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4543 DATE/TIME: 01/25/94 07:55
> From : KEN WELLS -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: (R) Level Bump
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> You have a vision and I like it! Count me in with any support
> necessary. Thanks for the note. Ken.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4544 DATE/TIME: 01/25/94 09:43
> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: Orgone box
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Jerry, I keep seeing messages on orgone energy produced by "the box".
> Frankly, I am very skeptical of such a device working. I am very busy
> on building two different experiments right now, or I'd build one right
> now to satisfy my skeptical streak. I'd very much be interested in
> testing such a device - I have some precision thermocouples which would
> test ambient/output temperature differentials, as well as external case
> temps. Have you or anyone else in the DFW area got an orgone
> accumulator you're willing to let me examine and test? If there IS a
> temperature differential between ambient and output, then Norm's
> Peltier junctions should be able to convert this temperature into a
> continuous, albiet small, direct electrical output. I have a few of
> these that I can setup for just such a test/demonstration.
> .
> By the way, I stopped by Norm's last night, and I swear I saw a Honda
> Civic and a Hundai swerve 5 or six feet sideways as they passed his
> place - the magnetic fields emanating through the walls are INCREDIBLE!
> >> Bert
> --------------------
> NOTE: This message has been FORWARDED to Joel Mcclain by
> Bert Pool on 01/25/94 at 13:43
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4547 DATE/TIME: 01/25/94 14:25
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) Orgone box
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bert,
> Skepticism is good. I'm skeptical as well, but I temper it with the
> facts that:
> 1. Reich was imprisoned, and his books burned by the USDA
> 2. Einstein personally proved that the heat exists, but was not able
> to explain it.
> 3. Ancients also believed in this type of healing energy, and built
> labyrinths under pyramids to "capture" it.
> The more we study "new" physics, the more it seems that we are learning
> the old.
> Joel
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4549 DATE/TIME: 01/25/94 20:21
> From : WILLIAM PRICE -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: Message base index
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Jerry,
> I uploaded a file named KINDEX.ZIP. This is a text file that
> contains a cross reference for the message base from msg 1 to 4527. The
> index is in a text file and is sorted or ordered based on the message
> subject, from, and to. The output is generated from the program I
> uploaded some time ago that sorts through a wild cat message base. I'm
> using the program to generate a comma delimited file that I then import
> into a database manager to do the sort. The program can provided sorted
> output but it takes forever to do it.
> One of the things that I have noticed is that no matter what
> project I start, there seems to be an enormous amount of inertia to
> complete it. My son and I have a modified coilbac circuit ready to test
> and we cann't seem to get the time to actually do the experiment. It's
> almost like an outside force keeps you from it.
> Enough of my problems. I have internet access for 25.00 a month
> here in Orange County California and would recommend it to anyone who
> communicates via e-mail. The 25.00 is the only charge and I get 6 hours
> a day of access time. This is a full internet account. I and my BBS can
> receive e-mail at [email protected] . I maintain the Keely Net Energy
> and Gravity file bases and the message base. If anyone wants a complete
> message base and they have an internet address I will be happy to send
> it to them via the net.
> Has anyone performed the falling coil experiments? When we finish
> the coilbak results, that will be the next one to start on. As an
> aside, I've managed to interest one of the guys that works for me and
> we are thinking of an experiment as follows: Wrap several thousand
> turns of small gage wire around an iron bar. Energize the coil and
> connect a scope across the ends of the bar. Without doing the
> experiment I would be willing to bet that you will see a current flow
> through the bar. We will actually get this one tested withing the next
> week because we have the test equipment on hand in my lab here at work.
> Later for now.
> Remember, the view only changes for the lead dog. Thanks for
> keeping the net alive.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4550 DATE/TIME: 01/25/94 21:53
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BOB ALDRICH
> Subject: (R) 3.3 Mhz Battery Charger
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bob! Yes, there is one complete page with several different types
> of battery chargers that speak of this ability to "replate"
> batteries...I don't have the catalog or number handy but I thought it
> odd as this fellow here in Dallas says it is all very new.
> I have yet to go over to his lab...will keep my eyes peeled for the
> J.C. Whitney catalog so I can get you the number and/or
> description...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4551 DATE/TIME: 01/25/94 21:56
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : DOUGLAS GIBBENS
> Subject: (R) Comment
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Douglas! Well, that paper is about all there is for now, beyond the
> information that will provide the inspiration or details for certain
> experiments....glad to hear from you just the same...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4552 DATE/TIME: 01/25/94 21:57
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : KEN WELLS
> Subject: (R) Level Bump
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Ken! Thanks, there are so many in different places....eventually we
> will get together, beyond just this form of information
> exchange...working together, we would be colonizing Mars in 10
> years...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4553 DATE/TIME: 01/25/94 21:59
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) Orgone box
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bert! That triangular thing that Ronnie McWilliams brought to the
> meeting was an orgone box....one of the reports is that Reich took one
> over to Einstein who tested it himself and noted a temperature
> differential but decided not to get involved...the boxes can be built
> of newspaper and aluminum foil and still get some degree of
> results...and there is some kind of detector...that in fact, is the
> basis for the work done by Chuck Shramek on the AURAVIEW detector...>>>
> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4554 DATE/TIME: 01/25/94 22:01
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) gifprt50.zip
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bert! Take VUIMG.ZIP, it works...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4556 DATE/TIME: 01/25/94 22:23
> From : NORMAN WOOTAN -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: Coaxial Cable
> Folder : D, "Special Associates Area Alpha"
>
> Jerry: Today I went by the "SECRET STORE" and found them throwing
> spools of coaxialcable in the dumpster for there is no salvage value in
> it and it takes up too much wharehouse space. Needless to say I drove
> off with a truck load of it to share with all who are doing "degenerate
> conductor " experiments. Are you reading this JOEL????? Bert came by
> tonight and I filled his truck up so his patio is covered with reels of
> coax. I tried to call you but you were probably preparing to do battle
> with the establishment (SLEEPING) HA! HA! At any rate there is plenty
> of coax to go around just sing out if you need any. Yes Bert looked at
> my TETRAHEDRON device and yes it has a magnetic field around it that
> takes all the color of a TV screen 12 feet away. Don't worry, I have
> it in another roomwell away from my computer. I don't have any gold
> yet but mushrooms dont grow fast either. How is your project going??
> Jerry, you should really write a piece on the way the earth gets it's
> energy- remember in the video about the crystals? Woody Moffitt keeps
> hitting on the muon based theory of streaming into the north pole of
> the planet. Little does he realize that the flow goes in the northpole
> ,crosses the block-wall the exits the south pole and returns to the sun
> to close the loop. It would be interesting to see your disertation on
> this very interesting theory. Norm
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4557 DATE/TIME: 01/26/94 00:13
> From : GERALD O'DOCHARTY -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: Re: Upload of FREEMAN1.ASC
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> These are some GREAT inventions, wish I had thought of them! HA!
> -Gerald
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4558 DATE/TIME: 01/26/94 02:58
> From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
> To : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
> Subject: (R) 3.3 Mhz Battery Charger
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Jerry,
> Thank you for checking it out for me.. If it should turn out
> J.C. Whitney has bowed to pressure to not sell those 3.3 battery
> chargers, why, I guess the next thing is to get a circuit
> diagram of one and build it myself. Or I know a fellow who sells
> printed circuit boards and kits, and he'd be happy to do such
> a thing.
> By the way, I just recalled something I intended to tell you
> about two months ago. You were talking about seeing the dead
> by looking into a glass in a darkened room. There is a book
> called "Reunions" about this very thing. The guy is a psychologist
> or something and I heard him on the local free speech radio
> channel being interviewed. Did I tell you about this? One person
> said that her deceased grandson actually came right out of the
> glass and hugged her, PICKED HER UP and hugged her, as he was
> wont to do on occasion when alive.
> Some others said they actually had a physical contact also,
> but usually they just communicate with their lost ones. I
> personally believe you could hallucinate even being picked up,
> but a videotape would solve that question... I certainly believe
> there is life after death, having had myself a brief experience
> along these lines.
> Anyway, looking forward to news on that 3.3 mhz batt charger.
> I just had an idea. If there was a full page ad on it, certainly
> they will know what I'm talking about when I call and ask about
> it tomorrow. I'll do that.
> Later,
> Bob
>
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4559 DATE/TIME: 01/26/94 02:59
> From : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
> To : BERT POOL
> Subject: (R) Orgone box
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bert,
> I couldn't help getting interested in your messages about
> orgone energy. I have not personally experienced it or seen it
> work but a friend of mine recently built a pyramid using
> aluminum foil 5 layers and wax paper, and wood. It was just
> barely large enough to get into, and so far everyone who has
> gotten into it has claimed to feel a VERY definate difference.
> Not heat, particularly, but just their overall physical
> sensation, a very high vibration rate and very calm, serene,
> etc.
> One of the things that got me interested in this was a
> picture that was shown to me of a pyramid with a double helix
> coming out of the top. This photograph was supposedly taken
> with Kirlian photography. But to me it looked slightly fuzzy,
> as if an artist drew the image and reduced it into a photograph.
> Still, it did get my interest. Another thing that got my
> interest about this was the statement that a dyslexic child
> was put in one of these orgonian pyramids and the child
> refused to come out for a month or two. When he finally did
> he was cured of dyslexia and his I.Q. rating was genius.
> This is of course hearsay, and I don't know how many people
> heard it said before I heard it! But there you are!
> The pyramid was a more or less standard pyramid except
> that it was built slightly taller than all sides equal so a
> person could get inside. Also, there were five layers of
> aluminum foil sandwiched with wax paper and this foil
> extended to within an inch of the corners. I don't know if
> the floor was also plated with aluminum foil.
> Later,
> Bob
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4560 DATE/TIME: 01/26/94 10:37
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BOB ALDRICH
> Subject: (R) 3.3 Mhz Battery Charger
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Bob,
> I saw the fellow you mentioned on a talk show not long ago, and
> uploaded a message about him. He's concerned that people will make
> money from it, but he's on his second book already, so I guess only
> SOME people should profit. Regardless, according to the people who act
> as mediums successfully, the profit motivation causes the "power" to
> diminish, so his third book might not make it to the presses.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4561 DATE/TIME: 01/26/94 10:41
> From : JOEL MCCLAIN -- RECEIVED --
> To : BOB ALDRICH
> Subject: (R) Orgone box
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi again,
> One of the things that you have to be careful of with this is to make
> sure that the pyramid floor is solidly grounded, else a HUGH
> capacitance will build up between the pyramid and earth. Jerry knows
> of a man who got blasted right into the hospital with broken ribs due
> to this.
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4562 DATE/TIME: 01/26/94 10:57
> From : BERT POOL -- RECEIVED --
> To : JOEL MCCLAIN
> Subject: Coaxial cable
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Joel, I have a couple thousand feet of copper coax in my garage with
> your name on it. Call me and we'll make arrangements for you to pick
> it up. My garage is becoming Norm's "remote" treasure depository! My
> work # is (214) 464-8384, home (817) 367-3462. > Bert
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4563 DATE/TIME: 01/26/94 11:04
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : WILLIAM PRICE
> Subject: (R) Message base index
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi William! Thanks for working on that program, I will check it out.
> As to you thoughts on the several thousand turns of wire wrapped around
> an iron bar...are you speaking of a Direct Current flowing through the
> wire? I think either way, you will get an induced current that will be
> picked up by the scope...it is essentially a solenoid.
> There is a fascinating circuit I found in a Navy Electronics book about
> something called a MAGNETOSTRICTIVE OSCILLATOR. It uses an iron bar or
> rod, suspended or balanced horizontally on a pivot point. Each end of
> the bar/rod has an equal number of windings around it and when the
> windings are pulsed, the bar begins to vibrate as the resonant
> frequency OF that bar is reached. The bar then becomes the "crystal"
> or reference....what was so cool, was that you could insert another bar
> and force the circuit to change its oscillation, though for absolute
> purity, you had to retune the currents flowing into the windings...
> Anyway, glad to hear of the InterNet links...I can get a UseNet link
> for $10 per month, but several folks say they'd rather not be
> "involved", that is their messages with the InterNet per se....some
> horror stories about "casual" comments that ended up with folks in
> major trouble...as I understand it, InterNet is the child or mutation
> of ARPANET...and that was government infected...
> Well, no conspiracy in the reasoning, just we don't need any problems
> beyond what we already have just trying to get things to stay online,
> open to the interested public and sharing as much as possible...
> Good luck on your coilbak circuit, I too find that problem with time,
> but mostly it's just me....lottery tonite is 8 million, lessee, that's
> about $180,000 per year after taxes...yep, would be an excellent
> start...hehehe...later...>>> Jerry
> ===============================================================================
>
>
> Message 4564 DATE/TIME: 01/26/94 11:13
> From : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP) -- RECEIVED --
> To : NORMAN WOOTAN
> Subject: (R) Coaxial Cable
> Folder : A, "Public Mail"
>
> Hi Norman! The real discoverers of this are Albert Roy Davis and
> Walter Rawls.....they clearly spell it out in their various books and
> have long been an inspiration to me...the bloch wall spin is critical
> to the understanding of many researchers results and leads to
> manifestation of matter, transmutation of matter, free energy,
> antigravity, disintegration and rejuvenation...I wrote a paper on it
> some years ago called RFP1 but on the computer it does not have the
> diagrams....
> There is no question that entire tape needs to be reduced to paper with
> all the diagrams...and yes, I am working on several versions of the
> experiment we all thought so highly of...if it works out, next one, can
> slow step the video camera and see it AS IT HAPPENS when we play it
> back....but really want to duplicate Mr. (should we say Professor? <g>)
> Brown's original experiment...
> I am using a configuration wherein each of the tets lying on the
> triangle have their TIPS TOUCHING...I think this fits in very well with
> Keely's contentions of 3rds....note the 1/3 level associated with
> pyramids, yet with TETS, we have the 60 degree equilateral triangle,
> thus focussing this mysterious force in the center...well, the winner
> is the one who can duplicate it and then go beyond...hehehe...you get
> the drift...
> I read Bert's note about his garage becoming your "remote"
> depository...sounds like it might be worth playing with, but right now,
> I am still working on the Lucid machine and now the TETS...though the
> TETS are automatic according to the mad Cannuck....later...>>> Jerry
> ==========
>
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