Body
Thanks Warren,
Kone answered it allready
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On Sat, 1/26/19, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Gary Porter looper ready to bideo lnk
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Received: Saturday, January 26, 2019, 9:57 PM
JakobOn
a bridge rectifier chip there are two AC "legs" or
wires coming out, the other two are the full wave rectified
DC + - Putting
the ac across the two brush wires of a dc motor, can capture
the
Power that usually manifests itself as
the blue arc at the brushes, and allow it to be sent on, to
do useful work, like power yet another dc motor.Diode
bridge rectifiers are cheap and very useful components to
have a little drawer full of, for general needs in our
experiments.Cheers
Warren
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 5:45
PM, Jakob Wall [email protected]
[EVGRAY]<[email protected]>
wrote:
Warren, a couple month ago i asked for definition
of your phrase ,
For this, put a bridge rectifier of 1000 volts, AC legs
' DOWN ACROSS ' the brushes, sending the DC out to
somewhere useful, solving the brush burnout.
but you did't had time back then to answer every stupid
question, maybe now is a good time
to say what 'down ACROSS the brushes' means?
Thanks.
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On Sat, 1/26/19, Warren Keillor
[email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Gary Porter looper ready to bideo
lnk
To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Received: Saturday, January 26, 2019, 2:37 PM
MickI
have found the same DC motor able to go from 100 rpm to
10.000, if the balance, and bearings, are good.
You may get a minor furnace at the brushes, at
higher voltages though.For
this, put a bridge rectifier of 1000 volts, AC legs down
across the brushes, sending the DC out to somewhere
useful,
solving the brush burnout.Cheers
Warren
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 3:00
PM, Mick [email protected]
[EVGRAY]<[email protected]>
wrote:
Hector,
What
speed DC motor works really well for this 1800, 3600?
and
are higher voltage motors any better than the
lower
voltage, or
vis versa?
Lets say if the end game is building something
serious
but
somewhat compact and reliable with enough output
to
get one under
some serious surveillance.
I imagine the higher the RPM the less necessary
larger caps.
On 1/26/2019 12:26 PM,
[email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
Have the capacitor charge and at its null
neutral
discharge it with the non reflecting diode
plug method ,
say for 9 phases 18 diodes , 18 capacitors
and
18 trigger
scr switches.
remember that i had given this in segments
each segment
has specific applications and effects .
assemble them and you have year 2500 ZPE
technology .
list of basic things, way to capture an RE
signal and
transfer it to a JOULE potential as a dc
voltage in a
capacitor.
Way to discharge this potential with no
reflection to
source ..
relate to Normans neutral spike and you
have
it all !
OU is transformation taking energy from
one
domain and
converting it to another .
(H)
---In [email protected],
<schoonersolsticemoon@...>
wrote :
Hector
Is
it then better to rectify the AC as soon
as
it is made
at the coil, so that it can be combined as
a
high
current DC, with the product of the
other
coils in
parallel?
Buffering
this in a capacitor, then inverting it,
if
one wants AC,
that can be then changed to the voltage
output, one may
want?
The
trick is to have a simple stupid
Inverter that has no brain that shuts it
off, when high,
or low signals, are recieved, due to
fluctuations in the
power.
I
used deep cycle 6 volt batteries, instead
of
a
capacitor, but would rather not, if
possible
to replace
them.
The
do seem to suck up any signal coming to
them, though,
and make it tame.
Cheers
Warren
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Android
On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 7:13 AM,
arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]>
wrote:
In RV triple flux
capacitor was used
to excite alternator
,rectified at WYE
center
to get DC
in multi phase WYE
DC
motor
you have an 3x3 flux
impedance (9
coils) within a
common
WYE center .
can use 9 capacitors
18
diode
bridge to play
...use
40 phases
make that 40 caps
80 diode bridge to
dc
conversion
adding the 40 coil
shorting gates to
the coils .
(H)
---In
[email protected],
<mkjekyll@...>
wrote :
Hi Ole,
Why u instead of V?
Yes the inductor is
a
current
source and acts as
a
current
flywheel, good
metaphor.
Can you explain
the
fabled flux
capacitor of
Faraday
and what may
indeed be
considered
as such if
one uses plasma
states
for
instance?
On
1/25/2019 1:33 PM,
onielsen@...
[EVGRAY] wrote:
Hi Norman,
Mick,
"...a
reverse
current is being
induced
into
the iron
core
coil
with the
reverse
polarity."
The current
continues in the
same
direction
while the
voltage or
tension changes
sign. The
current can't be
stopped or
having its
direction
changed in a jump
as it is
always
continuous.
It would be
like
immediately
stopping or
changing the
direction of
a
running
flywheel.
The
force required
or given off
is
like the
voltage when
speaking coils.
The voltage
or
force will be
of infinite
size
if the
change
happens
in an
instant. The
current starts
decreasing
from
whatever
value it has
at
the
disruption.
Only
how fast is
related to
the
size of the
induced
voltage
(u = L x
di/dt) where
u
is the
voltage, L
is
the inductance
of the coil,
i
is the
current and t
is
time. di/dt
is the slope
of
the current.
Regards
Ole
---In
[email protected],
<nwootan@...>
wrote :
Mick, first
envision a
North-South
magnetic poles
embedded
in
flywheel. When
the
North-South magnets
bridge the
first two poles
of the
stator
(rotation) a
forward
going
current is
induced
into
iron core
coil and
at
same time
charges up
condenser to
max.
Important
note here
is that
the
impedance of
coil is LC
matched to the
value of
the
condenser.
When the
North-South
magnets
move
over to the
middle and
last poles,
breaker
points
open and at
same time
a
reverse
current is
being induced
into the
iron
core coil
with the
reverse polarity,
the
condenser
discharges
through
coil
windings to
frame
ground.
With the
condenser
being charged
via the
forward going
current,
1st
step, when it
discharges
into coil a
reverse
current is being
induced by
moving magnets.
In effect
you
have
opposing
currents,
opposite
polarity,
(BUCKING-OPPOSED) which
cause a
miniature magnetic
flux
annihilation event
and a
MAGNETO-ELECTRIC,
micro EMP
event. That is
the reason
the
old
magnetos
had
such a
powerful
spark
even when
you turned
them by hand at
super low
RPM. I worked
on
thousands
of them on my
magneto
test
bench. Norm
On
1/25/2019
9:20
AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
[EVGRAY]
wrote:
Norm,
So
this
is the same
effect
from the 3
pole
magneto you
showed
us, when the
cap
discharges
during
the
collapsing flyback
pulse
and compresses
the
delta?
Were
three poles
used
in
parallel in
order
to
make sure
the
iron
was fully
saturated even at
low
speed in the old
magneto?
On
1/25/2019 9:35 AM,
Norman
Wootan nwootan@...
[EVGRAY] wrote:
Your quote,
feed
it a
reverse
potential as
voltage is
maximal peaking
and
you have a
mother of an EMP
neutral spike on
your
hands
!
Yeeeeeeaaaaah!
Hector my
friend, you got
it
exactly
right. In all my
experience with
old
time
magnetos, this
is
exactly how
the
conderser
discharge
through the
primary windings
happens with
reverse
polarity. Bang,
you
get a sharp
crack spark
discharge in the
bright blue wave
lengths. Not a
measily orange
spark without
any
zip to it.
The
5HP
compressor, EMP
test
I did works
this
way.
On
1/25/2019 6:35
AM,
arkresearch@...
[EVGRAY] wrote:
If you
short a coil
current
becomes
maximal
voltage stays
lag at zero
upon max core
saturation ,
then at short
cut off
,voltage
becomes
leading and
maximal as
current drop
to
zero ...
basic RF
neutral spike
dynamics !
feed it a
reverse
potential as
voltage is
maximal
peaking and
you have a
mother of an
EMP neutral
spike on your
hands !
(H) other
methods are
applicable ,,,
rotary is best
for simplicity
,
---In [email protected],
<konehead@...>
wrote :
Hi
Mick
"would require
shorting to
saturate the
core from
passing a
magnet"
Did you mean:
"would require
shorting to
saturate the
core from a
passing
magnet" ?
I
don't know
something
else?
Also wouldn't
a
shorted coil
become rf
transmitter
not so much an
antenna?
Anyways still
confused but
just half way
confused now..
Kone
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