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To:� All
I will insert a dialog from the board regarding the possible magnetic
flux annihilation phenomenon in things that have been around for a very
long time. Down through the years researchers have used opposing bucking
magnetic fields and have gotten surprising results but failed to
understand just what was happening. EVGRAY with the repulsion plates and
the fundamental principle of his motor operating is a good example along
with many other research endeavors. Check this out.
Mick, first envision a North-South magnetic poles embedded in flywheel.
When the North-South magnets bridge the first two poles of the stator
(rotation) a forward going current is induced into iron core coil and at
same time charges up condenser to max. Important note here is that the
impedance of coil is LC matched to the value of the condenser.�� When
the North-South magnets move over to the middle and last poles, breaker
points open and at same time a reverse current is being induced into the
iron core coil with the reverse polarity, the condenser discharges
through coil windings to frame ground. With the condenser being charged
via the forward going current, 1st step, when it discharges into coil a
reverse current is being induced by moving magnets. In effect you have
opposing currents, opposite polarity, (BUCKING-OPPOSED) which cause a
miniature magnetic flux annihilation event and a MAGNETO-ELECTRIC, micro
EMP event. That is the reason the old magnetos had such a powerful spark
even when you turned them by hand at super low RPM.��� I worked on
thousands of them on my magneto test bench.� Norm
On 1/25/2019 9:20 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
Norm,
So this is the same effect from the 3 pole magneto you showed us, when
the cap discharges during the collapsing flyback pulse and compresses
the delta?
Were three poles used in parallel in order to make sure the iron was
fully saturated even at low speed in the old magneto?
Your quote, feed it a reverse potential as voltage is maximal peaking
and you have a mother of an EMP neutral spike on your hands !������
Yeeeeeeaaaaah!� Hector my friend, you got it exactly right. In all my
experience with old time magnetos, this is exactly how the conderser
discharge through the primary windings happens with reverse polarity.�
Bang, you get a sharp crack spark discharge in the bright blue wave
lengths.� Not a measily� orange spark without any zip to it.� The 5HP
compressor, EMP test I did works this way.
On 1/25/2019 6:35 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
If you short a coil current becomes maximal voltage stays lag at zero
upon max core saturation , then at short cut off ,voltage becomes
leading and maximal as current drop to zero ... basic RF neutral spike
dynamics !
feed it a reverse potential as voltage is maximal peaking and you have a
mother of an EMP neutral spike on your hands !
(H)�� other methods are applicable ,,, rotary is best for simplicity ,
On 1/25/2019 9:49 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Thanks! Bert for your astute observations into the possibilities of
> the MRA operating with vastly improved PZT crystals of the noted
> composition.� Who knows what the results may be.�� This field of
> research certainly has been very interesting and tends to answer some
> perplexing questions as to how the MRA really worked.
>
> On 1/25/2019 9:30 AM, Bert Pool wrote:
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> This research on BiFeO_3 and BaTiO_3 is very interesting!� Based on
>> this research, I'd suggest the MRA could be tested with a somewhat
>> reconfigured layout so that the piezo be changed from a monolithic
>> crystal to a multi-layer film device made of BiFeO3 or BaTiO3,
>> mounted _within_ the electromagnetic field of a coil.� It might be
>> that a permanent magnet bias may not even be necessary, if the
>> pulsing (450 uSec) electromagnet is of sufficient strength (500 to
>> 38,000 Oersteds)� *see the abstract
>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260732043_Observation_of_nonlinear_magnetoelectric_response_to_magnetic_pulses_in_layered_magnetostrictive-piezoelectric_structures>
>> at Researchgate
>>
>> These several abstracts do indeed seem to support the high frequency
>> magnetic operation of your and Joel's MRA, in conjunction with a
>> piezo crystal.�
>>
>> Bert
>>
>>
>> On 1/25/2019 8:57 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Bert, I have been looking more into the PZT, Lead Zirconate EMP
>>> generation, Magneto-Electric Effect. Check out these sites.���
>>> https://phys.org/news/2016-05-scientists-giant-magnetoelectric-effect-bismuth.html
>>>
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/284097138_Origin_of_the_giant_linear_magnetoelectric_effect_in_perovskite-like_multiferroic_BiFeO_3
>>>
>>> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.1577404��� Bert, MRA
>>> all the way!�� High audio freq range.
>>>
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260732043_Observation_of_nonlinear_magnetoelectric_response_to_magnetic_pulses_in_layered_magnetostrictive-piezoelectric_structures����
>>> See PDF at attached.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/22/2019 3:39 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/spectacular-3d-simulation-of-a-massive-solar-flare-from-start-to-finish
>>>>
>>>> Watch this beautifully created 3D simulation of a Solar Flare!
>>>>
>>>> On 1/22/2019 6:18 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/22/2019 6:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To all on this dialog list, I will attempt to respond to Bart's
>>>>>> questions as to defining HEAT and COLD. First I must say that I
>>>>>> am a, somewhat amateur researcher sort of like the Good Old Boy
>>>>>> Red Neck that has an Oldsmobile Toronado (48 Oldsmobile with mud
>>>>>> grip tires on front wheels) on wood blocks in front yard. You
>>>>>> just have to address humor with a little humorous feed back.�
>>>>>> Bart's question is in regard to an age old paradox that was found
>>>>>> way back around turn of the Century and was written about in
>>>>>> Thermodynamics of Chemistry Text Books. When studying the phase
>>>>>> change of water, we know that in a closed system (evaporator/
>>>>>> condenser) with very careful instrumentation (caloriometer) it
>>>>>> was found that there was more caloric energy present on the
>>>>>> condensation side of the equation which, to this day remains
>>>>>> unexplained by the very best scholars.� After studying Tesla's
>>>>>> Pyro Ferromagnetic Generator, I wanted to know how the phase
>>>>>> change of a material could provide an electrical output. That is
>>>>>> how I got into researching the Armstrong Electrostatic Generator
>>>>>> that used condensing steam in an insulated discharge nozzle to
>>>>>> accumulate a very powerful electrical charge.� It has been very
>>>>>> recent research developments that help us understand this
>>>>>> phenomenon which has to do with the photon/ virtual photon
>>>>>> puzzle.� Digress here. Back in 1995, Jerry Decker, Cheyenne
>>>>>> Turner and I attended a Conference down in Austin, TX hosted by
>>>>>> Hal Puthoff, EarthTech.� A physicists from Austria did a
>>>>>> presentation on the very subject that I was researching which was
>>>>>> the Paradox over the water phase change phenomenon. As he
>>>>>> explained, no one has solved the obvious in-balance in the energy
>>>>>> equation.� BTW, during Dr. John Bockris, TA&M presentation on
>>>>>> The Lateral Transmutation of Elements in the Cold Fusion Cell
>>>>>> (Bockris/ Bass Patent application)� Dr. Puthoff's lab assistant
>>>>>> dropped dead in the back of the room due to a burst coronary
>>>>>> artery.� See:�
>>>>>> https://www.elsevier.com/books/chemical-thermodynamics/rouquerol/978-0-08-021366-8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/295087583_Chemical_Thermodynamics���
>>>>>> Very important read.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See attachment for full PDF.�� If you don't understand the
>>>>>> information in this PDF, you need to take your ball and bat home
>>>>>> cause you are trying to play in the wrong ballpark.� ( pleae
>>>>>> download PDF, 16mb, too, large for YAHOO)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/British-thermal-unit-Btu.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_burner��� I put this
>>>>>> document in here which I think old Warren will appreciate cause
>>>>>> he sees the ionization phenomenon every time he lights up his
>>>>>> Oxy/Acetylene torch and adjust the flame.�� You have to go
>>>>>> back and read the works of Tesla to understand that a flame is an
>>>>>> electrical phenomenon that Tesla was very proud of his exact
>>>>>> replication of the flame via electricity. Very rapid positive
>>>>>> ionization (combustion) yields the photon emission in the various
>>>>>> wavelengths of visible light based on the temperatures present or
>>>>>> created in the process. Take the old Oxy/Acetylene flame for an
>>>>>> example. When you light up, you get the orange light wave length
>>>>>> photon emission and a lot of soot due to incomplete combustion.
>>>>>> When the flame is leaned off to the ideal Complete combustion (no
>>>>>> soot, and more blue-like flame is the key) (Stoichiometric) mix
>>>>>> you get the emission of the blue wavelengths which are super high
>>>>>> in caloric value. See burn temperature table of common
>>>>>> gasses.�� Bart, I hope this will sort of clear up your
>>>>>> questions.� Norm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/21/2019 7:13 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Norman,
>>>>>>> �������������� Ok , I started
>>>>>>> chewing on this and will continue to do so until some value has
>>>>>>> resolved itself lets hope.
>>>>>>> Question.. according to this read and study you are saying
>>>>>>> condensation (electron pairing)has a higher value of charge with
>>>>>>> in vs any other state? correct?
>>>>>>> It does this more so on its descent.
>>>>>>> If so� a condensation "tank" constructed if you will would be
>>>>>>> able to employ itself as an on going capacitor.
>>>>>>> So then the next challenge would be to construct an on going
>>>>>>> environment of static value. Are you also stating that once its
>>>>>>> discharged it has nothing left of itself to continue producing
>>>>>>> the calculative like event ongoing? emp Unless otherwise the
>>>>>>> event is set up to recycle? Once temps have peaked could not the
>>>>>>> peltiers come in to play for ongoing maintenance values for input?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1/�� Built two projects in the past one being like the
>>>>>>> crystal compression some one posted a while back and had a very
>>>>>>> high scary freakish shock to it.
>>>>>>> � �� I also coiled a copper pipe spiral like above the
>>>>>>> device and found it also gave off a smaller value .
>>>>>>> Once I took it to a dc motor and it did effect the rpm slightly?
>>>>>>> It was odd results and study.
>>>>>>> Also as Hector mentioned the devices worked more efficiently
>>>>>>> pointed North. I have found this to be true.
>>>>>>> Sometimes 1- 3% noticeably pending outside temperatures.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2/�� In the relationship of photons to heat charge I did
>>>>>>> this experiment...
>>>>>>> �� I took a plastic tank the farmers use for spraying.
>>>>>>> Thinking 1000 liter, I constructed 200watt leds inside on the top.
>>>>>>> On the bottom outlet I recycled the water bring it back to the
>>>>>>> top using a pipe and installed an in line vortex with 500 n52
>>>>>>> with a disruptive design inside.
>>>>>>> The purpose was to see if I could maintain an ongoing charge
>>>>>>> with in the water structure with out using additives.� Was
>>>>>>> also thinking of my pool and hot tub water.
>>>>>>> I hooked up to a row of cucumbers 150ft long in a green house.
>>>>>>> With out using no more than 5% of their usual ingredient I ran
>>>>>>> it for two weeks.
>>>>>>> It maintained its standard ec value and flourished. It bloomed
>>>>>>> more than the other rows and had better tasting cucumbers lol.
>>>>>>> You may think the mags did it by them selves, yes but how ever
>>>>>>> for two weeks? Same water? The temp came up via the led and taco
>>>>>>> pump collecting
>>>>>>> a charge combined with the light and mags to my understandings
>>>>>>> enhancing the ec.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on
>>>>>>> behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* January 21, 2019 6:53 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]; Bert Pool; Bob Paddock; joel
>>>>>>> mcclain; Lane Wootan; Mbking42; Steven Elswick; Walt; Angel
>>>>>>> Alvarez; Fredric Fletcher; Jon Gentry; Jeane Manning; Toby Grotz
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] plasma magnet
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, Guys, remember what I told you in my paper, What is Heat.�
>>>>>>> Heat is positive ionization and cold is negative ionization. Its
>>>>>>> all in the conversion of electrons into photons as in the case
>>>>>>> of positive ionization and the pairing of photons back into
>>>>>>> electrons, negative ionization,as in the case of cooling. The
>>>>>>> element Gadolinium accomplishes the conversion in the presence
>>>>>>> or absence of a magnetic field.� Tesla's Pyro Ferromagnetic
>>>>>>> Generator worked this way with the molecular phase shift ( face
>>>>>>> center cubic to body centered cubic) at the thermal curie points
>>>>>>> of iron.� Everything in chemistry and physics is electrical
>>>>>>> based.��� Please understand, as an example, boiling water
>>>>>>> at the phase change into a vapor (positive ionization) electrons
>>>>>>> are converted into emitted photons, IR radiation and upon
>>>>>>> cooling the photon pairing provides the electrons for the water
>>>>>>> stricture to return to the liquid state.� In effect, you have
>>>>>>> an electron pump as demonstrated by Armstrong's Steam
>>>>>>> Electrostatic Generator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is something very important to consider in the Up and Down
>>>>>>> conversion of electrons in that at the simple, relative low
>>>>>>> temperature phase change process as is the case of water, it has
>>>>>>> been proven that more energy exist at the condensation process
>>>>>>> (electron paring) over the evaporation process.�� This has
>>>>>>> been an age old paradox.� When I started exploring the
>>>>>>> Annihilation-Reconnect phenomenon of magnetic flux, it was
>>>>>>> obvious that an order of magnitude discrepancy occurs at the
>>>>>>> conversion of magnetic flux into the photon-virtual photon
>>>>>>> emission then the paring at the re-connect phase giving the
>>>>>>> violent EMP pulse.�� Just a thought.� At the super high
>>>>>>> temperatures (positive ionization) in a hot plasma the energy
>>>>>>> equation get stood on its ear.� A huge amount of energy is
>>>>>>> manifest at the Re-connect, down conversion.�� Magneto-Electric.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ��������������������
>>>>>>> What is Heat #3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.� The reason for this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.� My
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> electronic cooling devices.� Would you believe that most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> junction.� Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> electrical energy resulted.� Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.� It was not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reversed.� These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Differentials.� In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Available which revived the electric cooling principles.� In
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.� The first
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.�� With a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.� Increasing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and voltage.� About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the Keely Net BBS.�� My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thermal energy across the junction.� This is a directly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.� We have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.� Would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.�� Back in 1840
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> passing through the nozzles.�� After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> not purely mechanical.� The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> transitions between phases.� More energy is present after
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> explained.� When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> totally not understood by modern science.� Now my suspicions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> question of,� What is heat?��� We were told in the�
>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of energy.� What is the form of this energy?� Let us look at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> process.� When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.� The
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> more electrons a material loses the hotter it becomes.� Now
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> net negative state or cold.� Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ion relationship in the material.� When we apply a flame
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (ions).� Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how the process works.� All phase change processes work the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> processes which we were taught.� Everything� in chemistry is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cooling effects.� Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.� This is a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> current involved.�� It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.� Remember
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as in the Peltier device.�� I hope that this dialog will
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the Keely Net.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of experimentation.�� Norm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/19/2019 9:16 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bart
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Years ago, you made up a prototype experiment, using a rotor,
>>>>>>>> with slanted magnets, much like some self runners seem to be
>>>>>>>> displaying.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps, it might be re-cycled, using these new magnets, with
>>>>>>>> that heat, cold, function, when driven?
>>>>>>>> The trick is to see exactly where this heat, and cold actually
>>>>>>>> appear, in order to exploit this phenomenon.
>>>>>>>> Then measuring how much energy is detected, and how much energy
>>>>>>>> was used to make it happen needs to be tested.
>>>>>>>> Designing a good test is the challenge.
>>>>>>>> Even if it matches contemporary refrigeration, or heating
>>>>>>>> systems, it might be a contender, to be competitive, if simple
>>>>>>>> enough.
>>>>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 8:22 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Bart
>>>>>>>> I think I read about this before from some info you sent,
>>>>>>>> in a nutshell, a strong neodymium magnet being pushed
>>>>>>>> towards the gandolimium (sp?)stuff vrestez heat, but when
>>>>>>>> it pulls away it creates cold (other way around?) So its
>>>>>>>> not too difficult to make something mechanical or rotating
>>>>>>>> to createheatorcold or both...maybe they are using the
>>>>>>>> super strong magnets now newly available Norm posted rabout
>>>>>>>> recently(N60 type?)
>>>>>>>> Kone
>>>>>>>>
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