Body
Thanks! Bert for your astute observations into the possibilities of the
MRA operating with vastly improved PZT crystals of the noted
composition.� Who knows what the results may be.�� This field of
research certainly has been very interesting and tends to answer some
perplexing questions as to how the MRA really worked.
On 1/25/2019 9:30 AM, Bert Pool wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> This research on BiFeO_3 and BaTiO_3 is very interesting!� Based on
> this research, I'd suggest the MRA could be tested with a somewhat
> reconfigured layout so that the piezo be changed from a monolithic
> crystal to a multi-layer film device made of BiFeO3 or BaTiO3, mounted
> _within_ the electromagnetic field of a coil.� It might be that a
> permanent magnet bias may not even be necessary, if the pulsing (450
> uSec) electromagnet is of sufficient strength (500 to 38,000
> Oersteds)� *see the abstract
> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260732043_Observation_of_nonlinear_magnetoelectric_response_to_magnetic_pulses_in_layered_magnetostrictive-piezoelectric_structures>
> at Researchgate
>
> These several abstracts do indeed seem to support the high frequency
> magnetic operation of your and Joel's MRA, in conjunction with a piezo
> crystal.
>
> Bert
>
>
> On 1/25/2019 8:57 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Bert, I have been looking more into the PZT, Lead Zirconate EMP
>> generation, Magneto-Electric Effect. Check out these sites.���
>> https://phys.org/news/2016-05-scientists-giant-magnetoelectric-effect-bismuth.html
>>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/284097138_Origin_of_the_giant_linear_magnetoelectric_effect_in_perovskite-like_multiferroic_BiFeO_3
>>
>> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.1577404��� Bert, MRA
>> all the way!�� High audio freq range.
>>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260732043_Observation_of_nonlinear_magnetoelectric_response_to_magnetic_pulses_in_layered_magnetostrictive-piezoelectric_structures����
>> See PDF at attached.
>>
>>
>> On 1/22/2019 3:39 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/spectacular-3d-simulation-of-a-massive-solar-flare-from-start-to-finish
>>>
>>> Watch this beautifully created 3D simulation of a Solar Flare!
>>>
>>> On 1/22/2019 6:18 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/22/2019 6:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> To all on this dialog list, I will attempt to respond to Bart's
>>>>> questions as to defining HEAT and COLD. First I must say that I am
>>>>> a, somewhat amateur researcher sort of like the Good Old Boy Red
>>>>> Neck that has an Oldsmobile Toronado (48 Oldsmobile with mud grip
>>>>> tires on front wheels) on wood blocks in front yard. You just have
>>>>> to address humor with a little humorous feed back.� Bart's
>>>>> question is in regard to an age old paradox that was found way
>>>>> back around turn of the Century and was written about in
>>>>> Thermodynamics of Chemistry Text Books. When studying the phase
>>>>> change of water, we know that in a closed system (evaporator/
>>>>> condenser) with very careful instrumentation (caloriometer) it was
>>>>> found that there was more caloric energy present on the
>>>>> condensation side of the equation which, to this day remains
>>>>> unexplained by the very best scholars.� After studying Tesla's
>>>>> Pyro Ferromagnetic Generator, I wanted to know how the phase
>>>>> change of a material could provide an electrical output. That is
>>>>> how I got into researching the Armstrong Electrostatic Generator
>>>>> that used condensing steam in an insulated discharge nozzle to
>>>>> accumulate a very powerful electrical charge.� It has been very
>>>>> recent research developments that help us understand this
>>>>> phenomenon which has to do with the photon/ virtual photon
>>>>> puzzle.� Digress here. Back in 1995, Jerry Decker, Cheyenne
>>>>> Turner and I attended a Conference down in Austin, TX hosted by
>>>>> Hal Puthoff, EarthTech.� A physicists from Austria did a
>>>>> presentation on the very subject that I was researching which was
>>>>> the Paradox over the water phase change phenomenon. As he
>>>>> explained, no one has solved the obvious in-balance in the energy
>>>>> equation.� BTW, during Dr. John Bockris, TA&M presentation on
>>>>> The Lateral Transmutation of Elements in the Cold Fusion Cell
>>>>> (Bockris/ Bass Patent application)� Dr. Puthoff's lab assistant
>>>>> dropped dead in the back of the room due to a burst coronary
>>>>> artery.� See:�
>>>>> https://www.elsevier.com/books/chemical-thermodynamics/rouquerol/978-0-08-021366-8
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/295087583_Chemical_Thermodynamics���
>>>>> Very important read.
>>>>>
>>>>> See attachment for full PDF.�� If you don't understand the
>>>>> information in this PDF, you need to take your ball and bat home
>>>>> cause you are trying to play in the wrong ballpark.� ( pleae
>>>>> download PDF, 16mb, too, large for YAHOO)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/British-thermal-unit-Btu.html
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_burner��� I put this
>>>>> document in here which I think old Warren will appreciate cause he
>>>>> sees the ionization phenomenon every time he lights up his
>>>>> Oxy/Acetylene torch and adjust the flame.�� You have to go
>>>>> back and read the works of Tesla to understand that a flame is an
>>>>> electrical phenomenon that Tesla was very proud of his exact
>>>>> replication of the flame via electricity. Very rapid positive
>>>>> ionization (combustion) yields the photon emission in the various
>>>>> wavelengths of visible light based on the temperatures present or
>>>>> created in the process. Take the old Oxy/Acetylene flame for an
>>>>> example. When you light up, you get the orange light wave length
>>>>> photon emission and a lot of soot due to incomplete combustion.
>>>>> When the flame is leaned off to the ideal Complete combustion (no
>>>>> soot, and more blue-like flame is the key) (Stoichiometric) mix
>>>>> you get the emission of the blue wavelengths which are super high
>>>>> in caloric value. See burn temperature table of common
>>>>> gasses.�� Bart, I hope this will sort of clear up your
>>>>> questions.� Norm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/21/2019 7:13 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norman,
>>>>>> �������������� Ok , I started chewing
>>>>>> on this and will continue to do so until some value has resolved
>>>>>> itself lets hope.
>>>>>> Question.. according to this read and study you are saying
>>>>>> condensation (electron pairing)has a higher value of charge with
>>>>>> in vs any other state? correct?
>>>>>> It does this more so on its descent.
>>>>>> If so� a condensation "tank" constructed if you will would be
>>>>>> able to employ itself as an on going capacitor.
>>>>>> So then the next challenge would be to construct an on going
>>>>>> environment of static value. Are you also stating that once its
>>>>>> discharged it has nothing left of itself to continue producing
>>>>>> the calculative like event ongoing? emp Unless otherwise the
>>>>>> event is set up to recycle? Once temps have peaked could not the
>>>>>> peltiers come in to play for ongoing maintenance values for input?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1/�� Built two projects in the past one being like the
>>>>>> crystal compression some one posted a while back and had a very
>>>>>> high scary freakish shock to it.
>>>>>> � �� I also coiled a copper pipe spiral like above the
>>>>>> device and found it also gave off a smaller value .
>>>>>> Once I took it to a dc motor and it did effect the rpm slightly?
>>>>>> It was odd results and study.
>>>>>> Also as Hector mentioned the devices worked more efficiently
>>>>>> pointed North. I have found this to be true.
>>>>>> Sometimes 1- 3% noticeably pending outside temperatures.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2/�� In the relationship of photons to heat charge I did this
>>>>>> experiment...
>>>>>> �� I took a plastic tank the farmers use for spraying.
>>>>>> Thinking 1000 liter, I constructed 200watt leds inside on the top.
>>>>>> On the bottom outlet I recycled the water bring it back to the
>>>>>> top using a pipe and installed an in line vortex with 500 n52
>>>>>> with a disruptive design inside.
>>>>>> The purpose was to see if I could maintain an ongoing charge with
>>>>>> in the water structure with out using additives.� Was also
>>>>>> thinking of my pool and hot tub water.
>>>>>> I hooked up to a row of cucumbers 150ft long in a green house.
>>>>>> With out using no more than 5% of their usual ingredient I ran it
>>>>>> for two weeks.
>>>>>> It maintained its standard ec value and flourished. It bloomed
>>>>>> more than the other rows and had better tasting cucumbers lol.
>>>>>> You may think the mags did it by them selves, yes but how ever
>>>>>> for two weeks? Same water? The temp came up via the led and taco
>>>>>> pump collecting
>>>>>> a charge combined with the light and mags to my understandings
>>>>>> enhancing the ec.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bart
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf
>>>>>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent:* January 21, 2019 6:53 AM
>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]; Bert Pool; Bob Paddock; joel
>>>>>> mcclain; Lane Wootan; Mbking42; Steven Elswick; Walt; Angel
>>>>>> Alvarez; Fredric Fletcher; Jon Gentry; Jeane Manning; Toby Grotz
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] plasma magnet
>>>>>> �
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, Guys, remember what I told you in my paper, What is Heat.�
>>>>>> Heat is positive ionization and cold is negative ionization. Its
>>>>>> all in the conversion of electrons into photons as in the case of
>>>>>> positive ionization and the pairing of photons back into
>>>>>> electrons, negative ionization,as in the case of cooling. The
>>>>>> element Gadolinium accomplishes the conversion in the presence or
>>>>>> absence of a magnetic field.� Tesla's Pyro Ferromagnetic
>>>>>> Generator worked this way with the molecular phase shift ( face
>>>>>> center cubic to body centered cubic) at the thermal curie points
>>>>>> of iron.� Everything in chemistry and physics is electrical
>>>>>> based.��� Please understand, as an example, boiling water
>>>>>> at the phase change into a vapor (positive ionization) electrons
>>>>>> are converted into emitted photons, IR radiation and upon cooling
>>>>>> the photon pairing provides the electrons for the water stricture
>>>>>> to return to the liquid state.� In effect, you have an electron
>>>>>> pump as demonstrated by Armstrong's Steam Electrostatic Generator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is something very important to consider in the Up and Down
>>>>>> conversion of electrons in that at the simple, relative low
>>>>>> temperature phase change process as is the case of water, it has
>>>>>> been proven that more energy exist at the condensation process
>>>>>> (electron paring) over the evaporation process.�� This has
>>>>>> been an age old paradox.� When I started exploring the
>>>>>> Annihilation-Reconnect phenomenon of magnetic flux, it was
>>>>>> obvious that an order of magnitude discrepancy occurs at the
>>>>>> conversion of magnetic flux into the photon-virtual photon
>>>>>> emission then the paring at the re-connect phase giving the
>>>>>> violent EMP pulse.�� Just a thought.� At the super high
>>>>>> temperatures (positive ionization) in a hot plasma the energy
>>>>>> equation get stood on its ear.� A huge amount of energy is
>>>>>> manifest at the Re-connect, down conversion.�� Magneto-Electric.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> �������������������� What
>>>>>> is Heat #3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.� The reason for this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.� My
>>>>>>
>>>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electronic cooling devices.� Would you believe that most
>>>>>>
>>>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> junction.� Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>>>
>>>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electrical energy resulted.� Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.� It was not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reversed.� These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Differentials.� In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Available which revived the electric cooling principles.� In
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.� The first
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.�� With a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>>>
>>>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.� Increasing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and voltage.� About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the Keely Net BBS.�� My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thermal energy across the junction.� This is a directly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>>>
>>>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.� We have
>>>>>>
>>>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.� Would
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>>>
>>>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.�� Back in 1840
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>>>
>>>>>> passing through the nozzles.�� After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not purely mechanical.� The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>>>
>>>>>> transitions between phases.� More energy is present after
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>>>
>>>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>>>
>>>>>> explained.� When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> totally not understood by modern science.� Now my suspicions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>>>
>>>>>> question of,� What is heat?��� We were told in the� school
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of energy.� What is the form of this energy?� Let us look at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> process.� When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>>>
>>>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.� The
>>>>>>
>>>>>> more electrons a material loses the hotter it becomes.� Now
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> net negative state or cold.� Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ion relationship in the material.� When we apply a flame
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>>>
>>>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (ions).� Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how the process works.� All phase change processes work the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> processes which we were taught.� Everything� in chemistry is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>>>
>>>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At a Vanguard Science Roundtable discussion several years ago
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cooling effects.� Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.� This is a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>>>
>>>>>> current involved.�� It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.� Remember
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as in the Peltier device.�� I hope that this dialog will
>>>>>>
>>>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the Keely Net.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of experimentation.�� Norm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/19/2019 9:16 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Years ago, you made up a prototype experiment, using a rotor,
>>>>>>> with slanted magnets, much like some self runners seem to be
>>>>>>> displaying.
>>>>>>> Perhaps, it might be re-cycled, using these new magnets, with
>>>>>>> that heat, cold, function, when driven?
>>>>>>> The trick is to see exactly where this heat, and cold actually
>>>>>>> appear, in order to exploit this phenomenon.
>>>>>>> Then measuring how much energy is detected, and how much energy
>>>>>>> was used to make it happen needs to be tested.
>>>>>>> Designing a good test is the challenge.
>>>>>>> Even if it matches contemporary refrigeration, or heating
>>>>>>> systems, it might be a contender, to be competitive, if simple
>>>>>>> enough.
>>>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 8:22 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Bart
>>>>>>> I think I read about this before from some info you sent, in
>>>>>>> a nutshell, a strong neodymium magnet being pushed towards
>>>>>>> the gandolimium (sp?)stuff vrestez heat, but when it pulls
>>>>>>> away it creates cold (other way around?) So its not too
>>>>>>> difficult to make something mechanical or rotating to
>>>>>>> createheatorcold or both...maybe they are using the super
>>>>>>> strong magnets now newly available Norm posted rabout
>>>>>>> recently(N60 type?)
>>>>>>> Kone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>