Re: [EVGRAY] Battery charging

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James, Who is it messing with you, do you own land they want?

On 1/22/2019 2:02 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Well at the time years ago the group I was looking at said they had
> done it but had trouble with the air coils and needed to use some iron
> in them to get the power to transfer but did have it up and tuning
> there homes .well were he's at .as soon as I can get out and go pick
> it up .some twice now has deliberately trashed my out road with a
> tractor type vehicle this winter so I'm a little behind the curve .the
> attacks are just tearable .
>
> On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, Mick [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>     Warren,
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>     I have been trying explain how the Smith device works via the
>     magnetic flux pulsing Norm is on about, yes the inductive cooker
>     comes closest as it is designed to dump flux into an iron cooking
>     skillet.  If you have noticed the induction cooking coil has
>     ferrite sections for this reason.  There are two poss flux
>     designss at play not including the preconditioned Sparky magnets. 
>     One is the flux pumping emp magnetic reconnect and the other is a
>     similar concept bi-bidirectionally where the flux of permanent
>     magnets is switched in polarity through a coil by forcing into one
>     or another flux circuit a la: AT Star, DS Toffolo, Ray Radus, Joe
>     Flynn etc.  Straight up resonance is not going to get one very far
>     without many niggling issues of load tuning, temperature drift
>     etc. and much lower gain unless one is talking the resonance of
>     two cores switching flux.  I assume Smith was using two cores he
>     was saturating out of phase with one another so they would flux
>     switch.
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>     On 1/22/2019 10:23 AM, Warren Keillor
>     [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>     Mick, James,
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>>     I am just picking this up rather late in the conversation.
>>     My ears just perked up on the subject of Don Smith work.
>>     I have spent many hours worrying through his concepts, trying to
>>     make sense of them, and further, trying to make them.
>>     My most gratifying result was with using Tesla spiral bifilar
>>     coils on an induction hot plate from Walmart.
>>     I managed to get my 3 hp 180 volt DC motor screaming like a
>>     Dremel tool placing a 1000 volt bridge rectifier on the output to
>>     the motor..
>>     The damn stove top is baby safe and shuts down without an iron
>>     pot so it cut short my sport.
>>     Moving blues cut out further progress on this subject.
>>     Thanks for the reminder
>>     Cheers Warren
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>>         On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 9:40 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
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>>         James,
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>>         I don't think he has it figured out, he is talking about
>>         resonant gain between high Q coils, there is much more to
>>         what Don was doing than the resonant gain side of the
>>         concept, much closer to what Norm has been pointing us
>>         towards.  So unless he can power resistance heaters of a
>>         couple thousand watts with no batteries he does not have it yet.
>>
>>         On 1/21/2019 2:46 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>         Well I'm going to need more information before forming a
>>>         opinion on his work .he said that in the front of his book
>>>         he has the twin coil resonant experiment of dons with the
>>>         two small coils you might of seen .he said they have gotten
>>>         10 times the out put on those coils than normal .I think he
>>>         using the coils as a see you can do it .demo . if true then
>>>         that moves this subject  forward somewhat .I need to
>>>         replicate that first .the thing that's all ways disconcerted
>>>         me was the claim you don't need a scope to do the work like
>>>         on bedini wheel when frankly they used one .kinda
>>>         misdirection .they might not need one being immersed in the
>>>         subject but most like to see what the hells going on . later
>>>         I liked the idea of I think it was smokey ? That said ...to
>>>         self power all you might need is a bedini coil and a MOSFET
>>>         pluser set at around 20,000 cycles to speed charge batteries
>>>         . something like that .once conditioned its fast .and even
>>>         if they don't hold the charge long term everyday recharge
>>>         and use.. its good to go .for every day .full charge .that's
>>>         impressive warrens charging big golf cart bats from a garden
>>>         bat reminds me of johns vid with the real big bank of bats
>>>         being charged by several flash light bats .a small solar
>>>         panel might be all you need to keep things going .
>>>
>>>         On Monday, January 21, 2019, Mick [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>              
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>>>             Hi James,
>>>
>>>             I would question if he has it working as a high power
>>>             system. I know he has it working similar to my wireless
>>>             charging system but that is at about a 4x1 gain, nothing
>>>             like the gains Don was getting with magnetic flux paths.
>>>
>>>             If you could ask him if indeed he can run the system to
>>>             the point of powering a house from a system with a few
>>>             capacitors or if he requires batteries to charge with
>>>             his version of DS gen this would make the distinction.
>>>
>>>             On 1/20/2019 10:50 PM, James Glinski
>>>             [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>             [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>             I was just wondering .I've got one with 10 coils and
>>>>             thinking about doing the up grade to fine tune but
>>>>             right now it desulfates pretty good like it is .I'm
>>>>             getting ricks book on don smith its I think ..might be
>>>>             wrong ..but 500 pages he's got it working and gives a
>>>>             lot of info on construction he sounded pretty impressed
>>>>             about dons work .  .I'll see bog if I can get up and
>>>>             running and move on to other things . stay warm ..a
>>>>             good bottle of youkon jack with do the trick .
>>>>
>>>>             On Sunday, January 20, 2019, Warren Keillor
>>>>             [email protected]
>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>             <[email protected]
>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>>                  
>>>>
>>>>                 James
>>>>
>>>>                 I went with the Bedini "School Girl" bog standard
>>>>                 circuit with no variation in parts, right down to
>>>>                 the miniature neon tube, diode number,
>>>>                 10k pot, etc.as <http://etc.as> I remember it.
>>>>                 It was correct to the book
>>>>                 My coil might have been excessive, compared to the
>>>>                 instructions
>>>>                 Cheers Warren
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>>>>                     On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 1:53 AM, James Glinski
>>>>                     [email protected]
>>>>                     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>                     <[email protected]
>>>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>>                     Warren did you use the 100 ohm resistors
>>>>                     instead of the 470 ohm ones and did you use the
>>>>                     I think I was the 1000 ohm pot in series to
>>>>                     fine tune it or did you just go with the 470 no
>>>>                     tune system ?
>>>>
>>>>                     On Thursday, January 17, 2019, [email protected]
>>>>                     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>                     <[email protected]
>>>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>>                         Hi Mick
>>>>                         I do notice "difference" between flyback
>>>>                         spike charging lead acid batteries and
>>>>                         straight cap charging lead acids and also
>>>>                         the HVDC approach too...wbich is more
>>>>                         practical and works better and more
>>>>                         sffecienr I would say is the flyback Bedini
>>>>                         wheel approach
>>>>                         But if you do not use the correct type of
>>>>                         lead acids, (traction batteries) over
>>>>                         fairly short period of time the batteries
>>>>                         go bad becauze they are not made to do
>>>>                         thousands of charge discharge cycles,
>>>>                         rather just about a dozen if regular car
>>>>                         batteries or marine starting batteries. or
>>>>                         even worse the very common7ah sealed lead
>>>>                         acids made for backup UPS for computers in
>>>>                         case of grid failure for example is the
>>>>                         only time the batteries will kick in, so
>>>>                         made to sit on shelf for years. Then drain
>>>>                         for only few hours ...maybe :"rechageable"
>>>>                         type but not rechargeable in sense golf
>>>>                         cart traction type batteries are
>>>>                         rechargeable after thousands d cycles
>>>>                         running loads.
>>>>                         I wasted hundreds of hours testing various
>>>>                         battery charging circuits for years using
>>>>                         small sealed lead acids I got from surplus
>>>>                         cheap salvaged out of backup computer
>>>>                         battery banks ...and would come to wrong
>>>>                         conclusion this way of that way works like
>>>>                         shit or thiz way raisez voltagw twice as
>>>>                         fast etc... but actually I made bad choice
>>>>                         of batteries so my experience not such a
>>>>                         great experience to tell you what is best
>>>>                         conclusively.. I just have my opi ionbased
>>>>                         on my experience and others too like Warren
>>>>                         and Bedini...i don't quite trust Rick
>>>>                         Fredricjh totally as he is selling stuff to
>>>>                         public making money and is doing lots of
>>>>                         bedini bashing on his very boring long
>>>>                         windec videos.
>>>>                         Kone
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