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On 12/19/2018 5:52 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
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> Two types of micro tornadoes in the Sono-diffuser that I built with
> glass outer cylinder. I drew a depiction of what we saw under HeNe
> laser and high speed strobe effects to stop action the events. see
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> After about an hour running time on the Diffuser, the 6061 aluminum
> rotor would turn totally black due to the erosion caused by the micro
> tornadoes that were attached to the rotor vs the ones that were point
> to point attached to one another. Rotor was etched to flat black
> condition. In the closed loop water tygon clear tubing circulating
> line we found that the water was carrying a charge for it created a
> powerful magnetic field around the water line.
> See
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> On 12/16/2018 8:40 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>> Norm,
>>
>> Do you have pictures of the mini tornadoes from your diffuser?
>> Were they point to point - high pressure to high pressure or low to
>> low like the wing below?
>> I'm beginning to grock what is happening, thanks Norm, and thank
>> goodness for internet again!
>>
>> On 12/13/2018 7:20 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Since I am a graduate of Embry Riddle Aeronautical University and
>>> spent practically a life-time in Aeronautics, I tend to understand
>>> the operation of this turbine as Nikola Tesla designed it and not
>>> like the shade tree builders envision it. The Schifrin Photography
>>> of super-sonic air flow over airfoils back in the day of NACA before
>>> NASA. opened the door of understanding just how Tesla's Turbine
>>> really worked.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_turbine
>>>
>>> Quote, A Tesla turbine consists of a set of smooth disks, with
>>> nozzles <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nozzle> applying a moving
>>> fluid to the edge of the disk.
>>>
>>> DeLeval nozzle designed to achieve sonic velocities and energy
>>> conversion in throat choking. see diagram
>>>
>>> Red line is Temperature and Green line is pressure both are called
>>> Potential Energy. The Blue line is Kinetic Energy and with proper
>>> throat design for a given condition you can achieve a near complete
>>> conversion of Energy from Potential to Kinetic. The Tesla nozzle was
>>> tune-able to achieve these conditions.
>>>
>>> In Fig 4 Tesla depicted the tune-able DeLeval throat to achieve the
>>> sonic velocities needed to drive the disk with shock wave adhesion.
>>>
>>> For super high efficiencies, the Tesla Turbine must be operated with
>>> a condense-able fluid, water to steam back to water. My condenser
>>> operated at around 40 degrees F. (partial vacuum). My operating
>>> fluid was Refrigerant R-113 which gave me a vapor density greater
>>> than air and was condense-able below the boiling point of 117 degree F.
>>>
>>> This turbine can also be applied to condensing plants operating with
>>> high vacuum. In such a case, owing to the very great expansion
>>> ratio, the exhaust mixture will be at a relatively low temperature
>>> and suitable for admission to the condenser.
>>>
>>> On 12/12/2018 2:54 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mick, Tesla knew DeLeval and since Allis Chalmers, Millwakee,WI was
>>>> already employing the nozzles in their commercial turbines, he went
>>>> to them to build his Turbines and test them.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.autoevolution.com/news/nikola-tesla-s-revolutionary-engine-still-lies-untouched-here-s-how-it-works-112254.html
>>>>
>>>> The Turbine tested by Con Edison, NY 200 HP
>>>>
>>>> The Allis-Chalmers version, 1 0f 3 built. 500 HP
>>>>
>>>> On 12/12/2018 9:12 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mick, WRONG on your ideas regarding the Tesla Turbine operating
>>>>> principles. In my presentation at the Steven Elswick, Tesla Tech
>>>>> Conference, 2016, I went into great detail as to the operating
>>>>> principles of Teslas' Turbine which is nothing like you see, so
>>>>> called experts claiming. (Reason why I wanted Doug to Post the
>>>>> DVD on YouTube). First of all, to achieve the fantastic
>>>>> efficiencies that Tesla got was to understand super sonic shock
>>>>> waves that adhere to the smooth disk boundary layer. DeLeval
>>>>> developed the nozzle for rockets to achieve the thrust needed for
>>>>> flight which was quickly picked up on by Robert Goddard. A
>>>>> properly designed Tesla Turbine has DeLeval nozzles which operate
>>>>> at about 1400 ft./sec. velocities which is just above super sonic
>>>>> velocity. A short distance from the nozzle the driving gases
>>>>> transition to sub-sonic velocity forming a transition shock wave
>>>>> which imparts the full kinetic energy of the gases to the moving
>>>>> disk. Remember that you are converting POTENTIAL ENERGY (high
>>>>> pressure gas in steam chest) into KINETIC ENERGY super sonic gas
>>>>> flow. NO ONE understands this basic principle. Steven Elswick,
>>>>> Tesla Tech has my DVD for sale.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> enter image description here
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_engine_nozzle
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Laval_nozzle
>>>>>
>>>>> Do some reading and understand the terminology such as CHOKED FLOW
>>>>> to achieve super-sonic velocities.
>>>>> Mick, It is all in your basic research and understanding.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/11/2018 5:05 PM, Mick Jekyll [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norman,
>>>>>> Fantastic projects you have been involved with. Have had many
>>>>>> mental exercises in advances to the boundary layer turbine. One
>>>>>> of which is a more parabolic funnel type core with graduated
>>>>>> sized disks and the variable nozzle addition similar to the
>>>>>> latest Porsche turbochargers that overcome turbo lag. Also
>>>>>> variable disk spacing would be trick but more to go wrong. So in
>>>>>> essence a bit of Schauberger thrown in with Tesla for good
>>>>>> measure. A tad bit more complex. Sounds as if you have had
>>>>>> similar thoughts and already engineered something from both camps
>>>>>> of thought.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2018 9:39 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When Looking back into the 20 plus years of files,
>>>>>> documentation, e-mail and Keely Net BBS dialog files,it would
>>>>>> be a crying shame for all of this valuable and informative
>>>>>> data to be lost. I have decided to post, incrementally a lot
>>>>>> of information onto this group site for your research use if
>>>>>> you choose. In retrospect, I have realized that many folks
>>>>>> out there have stolen ideas, Patents etc. from those of us
>>>>>> that have given information freely as did Tesla and even
>>>>>> Hector. I have always tried to share knowledge for the
>>>>>> benefit of all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norman L. Wootan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 13723 Lynndale Loop
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abbeville, LA 70510
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (214)907-0010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time line development of Technologies related to “VES” Green
>>>>>> Energy Systems
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The “Implosion Vortex Reactor” (IVR) was the starting block
>>>>>> of technology for the VES program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Due to my visit with Jim, in his home in CA. in thesummer of
>>>>>> 2001 searching for an “ultra high temp.” ceramic material,
>>>>>> his intense interest was “tweaked” in this technology!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I digress here:In 1980, I was developing the methodology for
>>>>>> making hydrogen gas from basic carbon and water in a unique
>>>>>> type of reactor vessel. In 1994, I machined and assembled the
>>>>>> first prototype 304 stainless “Implosion Vortex Reactor”.Was
>>>>>> not able to arouse any interest in the technology here in the
>>>>>> US.An Investor Group in Berlin GE invited Me in 2001 to fly
>>>>>> to Berlin and do a formal presentation of the technology at
>>>>>> which time the Patent process was begun and funding for the
>>>>>> project was set up. I went to Carson City NV. And set up the
>>>>>> necessary Wells Fargo account and Incorporation for the
>>>>>> funding to proceed.A 5200 sq. ft. Research lab was
>>>>>> constructed on my 52 acre farm at Hubbard, TX for the purpose
>>>>>> of prototype development.I was in weekly contact with Jim due
>>>>>> to his interest in the Project.In 2005, the Project was
>>>>>> funded ($1.5 million) by GAZPROM, Russia being represented by
>>>>>> Her Deitsmar.My prototype development was funded at the
>>>>>> $250,000 level. While I was machining out the two prototypes
>>>>>> (one from 6061 aluminum to develop the CAD specs and
>>>>>> drawings, and the second working, “proof of concept reactor”
>>>>>> from 310 stainless steel) Jim asked me to assist him in the
>>>>>> construction of a Vapor Infusion Furnace at Carbondale, IL so
>>>>>> that he could produce a needed densified ceramic reactor
>>>>>> unit!I have provided you in previous documentation the
>>>>>> background info on this Program at SICU. In which we had a
>>>>>> working agreement with the University. In the spring of 2006,
>>>>>> at the “Proof of concept” test of stainless IVR attended by 6
>>>>>> Engineers and Investor representatives from Europe it was
>>>>>> learned that John MacAllen Funding and Project coordinator
>>>>>> has misappropriated $1.2 million of the Project funds. He had
>>>>>> moved to the US from Berlin, GE and purchased a home and
>>>>>> yacht in Florida of which we had a satellite photo of home
>>>>>> and boat in the slip.GAZPROM, Russia took legal action
>>>>>> against MacAllen and took possession of both prototypes and
>>>>>> Patent Rights.See: both Euro and U.S. Patents.In the spring
>>>>>> of 2006, Jim and I agreed to pursue the IVR technology using
>>>>>> the JEP Patent Process to Patent around my basic patents. Jim
>>>>>> had the technology to produce the required densified ceramics
>>>>>> so as to operate the IVR at the optimum thermal environment.
>>>>>> It was our intention to build out our version of the
>>>>>> “Implosion Vortex Reactor” at the envisioned Victorville, CA
>>>>>> Lab Complex when the project was adequately funded. To that
>>>>>> end, Jim was working his heart out!Since I designed the IVR
>>>>>> and wrote the Patents, I left a lot of the “technology”
>>>>>> undisclosed so as to have the latitude for the JEP Patent
>>>>>> Process which Jim wanted to do with our Patent Attorney.Jim
>>>>>> gave me the big “atta boy” for having the forsight and
>>>>>> thinking ahead!I have a complete historical book of the whole
>>>>>> Project with all the Contact Letters with both US Government
>>>>>> and Industrial Investors.I hand delivered a complete set of
>>>>>> these documents to the George Bush Western Whitehouse at
>>>>>> Crawford, TX for our President to review.The same docs were
>>>>>> provided to DOE, Newt Gingrich and Senator Byrd of WVA.This
>>>>>> will give you a great deal of insight into the IVR portion of
>>>>>> our “VES” Program!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next!The “Implosion Vortex Turbine” our “Prime Mover”(my
>>>>>> vastly improved Tesla Turbine)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To be continued in next message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time line development of Technologies related to “VES” Green
>>>>>> Energy Systems
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the second Technology for the “VES” Project:The
>>>>>> Implosion Vortex Turbine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since back in the early 70’s I have been an “avid” Researcher
>>>>>> in the Technology of Nikola Tesla.I have everything that has
>>>>>> ever been written by or about this “genius”.Of very special
>>>>>> interest was his Boundary Layer Turbine which he patented in
>>>>>> 1913.After doing extensive research into this very efficient
>>>>>> turbine unit I quickly came to the conclusion that all that
>>>>>> were writing about or researching this device did not fully
>>>>>> understand just how it worked for Tesla was very “shrewd” in
>>>>>> writing his patents and never divulged all of the
>>>>>> technology!I went to the very “top” internet sites and
>>>>>> publications regarding the subject turbine and found that no
>>>>>> one had a “clue’ as to how it really was intended to work at
>>>>>> the “super high thermal conversion” figures.Bendix Corp.
>>>>>> tested a 500HP version of this turbine being operated on
>>>>>> steam and was astounded with the results. This turbine was
>>>>>> abandoned early due to the lack of the proper metallurgy
>>>>>> needed in the runners (disk) which had the needed stress
>>>>>> modulus.Due to my background and Degree in the Aeronautical
>>>>>> Discipline I fully understood just how the Boundary Layer
>>>>>> Effect was utilized by Tesla to achieve the phenomenal
>>>>>> thermal efficiency. In 1994, same shop that I machined the
>>>>>> IVR unit; I built a museum quality Tesla Turbine to
>>>>>> demonstrate the technology.I filed with the US Patent office
>>>>>> the Patent Disclosure of a new very unique new hub design
>>>>>> that eliminated all the labyrinth seal design of Tesla and
>>>>>> booster the operational efficiency and simplified the
>>>>>> construction of said turbine.At the International Tesla
>>>>>> Conference, Colorado Springs, 1995, I donated this Tesla
>>>>>> Turbine along with the Patent Disclosure to the museum and it
>>>>>> went on display and was demonstrated to all museum visitors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After Jim and I addressed the IVR under “VES” his next
>>>>>> question was “Norm, how are we going to utilize the thermal
>>>>>> output of the IVR for power generation”?My answer, Tesla
>>>>>> Boundary Layer Turbine, to which Jim said, “Please educate me
>>>>>> for I have not heard of this before”.I sent to Jim all the
>>>>>> documentation and drawings along with stress analytical
>>>>>> formulas for the high speed disk utilized in the
>>>>>> turbine.Since this turbine operates at such high speeds, Jim
>>>>>> quickly showed me the stress calculations for runners (disk)
>>>>>> that he would produce in carbon/carbon composite that would
>>>>>> successfully operate in the required environment and would be
>>>>>> impervious to erosion and could be surface finished at the
>>>>>> micron level.I laid out in “Flow block” diagrams, the
>>>>>> operation of the Boundary layer Turbine utilizing a high
>>>>>> density refrigerant that had the operational characteristics
>>>>>> we needed for a low pressure, low temperature very efficient
>>>>>> turbine.To achieve the “off the charts” thermal efficiency,
>>>>>> advanced Mechanical Vapor Recompression (MVR) Industrial Heat
>>>>>> pumping technology will be incorporated into the System. We
>>>>>> are able to achieve a very conservative COP of 20:1 Energy in
>>>>>> vs. thermal output.This is totally achievable in the modern
>>>>>> Heat pump Technology!(MVR) Heat Pump technology will be
>>>>>> address in next segment. Our system is a huge shift from the
>>>>>> current steam turbines which all operate at very high
>>>>>> pressures and very high temperatures so as to maximize the
>>>>>> extraction or conversion of thermal energy into mechanical
>>>>>> energy to drive the generators (really alternators).“Carnot’
>>>>>> cycle” or method of calculating system thermal efficiency.
>>>>>> Our System operates at relatively low pressures and
>>>>>> temperatures vastly simplifying design, fabrication and
>>>>>> operation and practically eliminates most maintenance
>>>>>> requirements. Both Jim and I have all the documentation of
>>>>>> this System in our files!This is a unique System approach to
>>>>>> be prototyped and Patent Apply for at the Victorville Facility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one has put together the “blocks” for such a System that
>>>>>> has such very high performance and efficiency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next segment: MVR
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
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