Re: [EVGRAY] Norman Wootan Research Files. [6 Attachments]

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Norm,

Do you have pictures of the mini tornadoes from your diffuser?    Were
they point to point - high pressure to high pressure or low to low like
the wing below?
I'm beginning to grock what is happening, thanks Norm, and thank
goodness for internet again!

On 12/13/2018 7:20 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Since I am a graduate of Embry Riddle Aeronautical University and
> spent practically a life-time in Aeronautics, I tend to understand the
> operation of this turbine as Nikola Tesla designed it and not like the
> shade tree builders envision it.   The Schifrin Photography of
> super-sonic air flow over airfoils back in the day of NACA before
> NASA. opened the door of understanding just how Tesla's Turbine really
> worked.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_turbine
>
> Quote, A Tesla turbine consists of a set of smooth disks, with nozzles
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nozzle> applying a moving fluid to the
> edge of the disk.
>
> DeLeval nozzle designed to achieve sonic velocities and energy
> conversion in throat choking. see diagram
>
> Red line is Temperature and Green line is pressure both are called
> Potential Energy.  The Blue line is Kinetic Energy and with proper
> throat design for a given condition you can achieve a near complete
> conversion of Energy from Potential to Kinetic.   The Tesla nozzle was
> tune-able to achieve these conditions.
>
> In Fig 4 Tesla depicted the tune-able DeLeval throat to achieve the
> sonic velocities needed to drive the disk with shock wave adhesion.
>
> For super high efficiencies, the Tesla Turbine must be operated with a
> condense-able fluid, water to steam back to water.  My condenser
> operated at around 40 degrees F.  (partial vacuum).  My operating
> fluid was Refrigerant R-113 which gave me a vapor density greater than
> air and was condense-able below the boiling point of 117 degree F.
>
> This turbine can also be applied to condensing plants operating with
> high vacuum. In such a case, owing to the very great expansion ratio,
> the exhaust mixture will be at a relatively low temperature and
> suitable for admission to the condenser.
>
> On 12/12/2018 2:54 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Mick, Tesla knew DeLeval and since Allis Chalmers, Millwakee,WI was
>> already employing the nozzles in their commercial turbines, he went
>> to them to build his Turbines and test them.  
>>
>> https://www.autoevolution.com/news/nikola-tesla-s-revolutionary-engine-still-lies-untouched-here-s-how-it-works-112254.html
>>
>> The Turbine tested by Con Edison, NY  200 HP
>>
>> The Allis-Chalmers version, 1 0f 3 built. 500 HP
>>
>> On 12/12/2018 9:12 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Mick, WRONG on your ideas regarding the Tesla Turbine operating
>>> principles.  In my presentation at the Steven Elswick, Tesla Tech
>>> Conference, 2016, I went into great detail as to the operating
>>> principles of Teslas' Turbine which is nothing like you see, so
>>> called experts claiming.  (Reason why I wanted Doug to Post the DVD
>>> on YouTube).  First of all, to achieve the fantastic efficiencies
>>> that Tesla got was to understand super sonic shock waves that adhere
>>> to the smooth disk boundary layer.  DeLeval developed the nozzle for
>>> rockets to achieve the thrust needed for flight which was quickly
>>> picked up on by Robert Goddard.  A properly designed Tesla Turbine
>>> has DeLeval nozzles which operate at about 1400 ft./sec. velocities
>>> which is just above super sonic velocity. A short distance from the
>>> nozzle the driving gases transition to sub-sonic velocity forming a
>>> transition shock wave which imparts the full kinetic energy of the
>>> gases to the moving disk.  Remember that you are converting
>>> POTENTIAL ENERGY (high pressure gas in steam chest) into KINETIC
>>> ENERGY super sonic gas flow.  NO ONE understands this basic
>>> principle.  Steven Elswick, Tesla Tech has my DVD for sale.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> enter image description here
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_engine_nozzle
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Laval_nozzle
>>>
>>> Do some reading and understand the terminology such as CHOKED FLOW
>>> to achieve super-sonic velocities.
>>> Mick, It is all in your basic research and understanding.
>>>
>>> On 12/11/2018 5:05 PM, Mick Jekyll [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Norman,
>>>> Fantastic projects you have been involved with. Have had many
>>>> mental exercises in advances to the boundary layer turbine.  One of
>>>> which is a   more parabolic funnel type core with graduated sized
>>>> disks and the variable nozzle  addition similar to the latest
>>>> Porsche turbochargers that overcome turbo lag. Also variable disk
>>>> spacing would be trick but more to go wrong. So in essence a bit of
>>>> Schauberger thrown in with Tesla for good measure.  A tad bit more
>>>> complex. Sounds as if you have had similar thoughts and already
>>>> engineered something from both  camps of thought.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 11, 2018 9:39 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     When Looking back into the 20 plus years of files,
>>>>     documentation, e-mail and Keely Net BBS dialog files,it would
>>>>     be a crying shame for all of this valuable and informative data
>>>>     to be lost.  I have decided to post, incrementally a lot of
>>>>     information onto this group site for your research use if you
>>>>     choose.  In retrospect, I have realized that many folks out
>>>>     there have stolen ideas, Patents etc. from those of us that
>>>>     have given information freely as did Tesla and even Hector.  I
>>>>     have always tried to share knowledge for the benefit of all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Norman L. Wootan
>>>>
>>>>     13723 Lynndale Loop
>>>>
>>>>     Abbeville, LA 70510
>>>>
>>>>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>     (214)907-0010
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     Time line development of Technologies related to “VES” Green
>>>>     Energy Systems
>>>>
>>>>     The “Implosion Vortex Reactor” (IVR) was the starting block of
>>>>     technology for the VES program.
>>>>
>>>>     Due to my visit with Jim, in his home in CA. in the  summer of
>>>>     2001 searching for an “ultra high temp.” ceramic material, his
>>>>     intense interest was “tweaked” in this technology!
>>>>
>>>>     I digress here:  In 1980, I was developing the methodology for
>>>>     making hydrogen gas from basic carbon and water in a unique
>>>>     type of reactor vessel. In 1994, I machined and assembled the
>>>>     first prototype 304 stainless “Implosion Vortex Reactor”.  Was
>>>>     not able to arouse any interest in the technology here in the
>>>>     US.   An Investor Group in Berlin GE invited Me in 2001 to fly
>>>>     to Berlin and do a formal presentation of the technology at
>>>>     which time the Patent process was begun and funding for the
>>>>     project was set up. I went to Carson City NV. And set up the
>>>>     necessary Wells Fargo account and Incorporation for the funding
>>>>     to proceed.  A 5200 sq. ft. Research lab was constructed on my
>>>>     52 acre farm at Hubbard, TX for the purpose of prototype
>>>>     development.  I was in weekly contact with Jim due to his
>>>>     interest in the Project.  In 2005, the Project was funded ($1.5
>>>>     million) by GAZPROM, Russia being represented by Her Deitsmar. 
>>>>     My prototype development was funded at the $250,000 level.
>>>>     While I was machining out the two prototypes (one from 6061
>>>>     aluminum to develop the CAD specs and drawings, and the second
>>>>     working, “proof of concept reactor” from 310 stainless steel)
>>>>     Jim asked me to assist him in the construction of a Vapor
>>>>     Infusion Furnace at Carbondale, IL so that he could produce a
>>>>     needed densified ceramic reactor unit!  I have provided you in
>>>>     previous documentation the background info on this Program at
>>>>     SICU. In which we had a working agreement with the University.
>>>>     In the spring of 2006, at the “Proof of concept” test of
>>>>     stainless IVR attended by 6 Engineers and Investor
>>>>     representatives from Europe it was learned that John MacAllen
>>>>     Funding and Project coordinator has misappropriated $1.2
>>>>     million of the Project funds. He had moved to the US from
>>>>     Berlin, GE and purchased a home and yacht in Florida of which
>>>>     we had a satellite photo of home and boat in the slip. 
>>>>     GAZPROM, Russia took legal action against MacAllen and took
>>>>     possession of both prototypes and Patent Rights.  See: both
>>>>     Euro and U.S. Patents.  In the spring of 2006, Jim and I agreed
>>>>     to pursue the IVR technology using the JEP Patent Process to
>>>>     Patent around my basic patents. Jim had the technology to
>>>>     produce the required densified ceramics so as to operate the
>>>>     IVR at the optimum thermal environment. It was our intention to
>>>>     build out our version of the “Implosion Vortex Reactor” at the
>>>>     envisioned Victorville, CA Lab Complex when the project was
>>>>     adequately funded. To that end, Jim was working his heart out! 
>>>>     Since I designed the IVR and wrote the Patents, I left a lot of
>>>>     the “technology” undisclosed so as to have the latitude for the
>>>>     JEP Patent Process which Jim wanted to do with our Patent
>>>>     Attorney.  Jim gave me the big “atta boy” for having the
>>>>     forsight and thinking ahead!  I have a complete historical book
>>>>     of the whole Project with all the Contact Letters with both US
>>>>     Government and Industrial Investors.  I hand delivered a
>>>>     complete set of these documents to the George Bush Western
>>>>     Whitehouse at Crawford, TX for our President to review.  The
>>>>     same docs were provided to DOE, Newt Gingrich and Senator Byrd
>>>>     of WVA.  This will give you a great deal of insight into the
>>>>     IVR portion of our “VES” Program!
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     Next!  The “Implosion Vortex Turbine” our “Prime Mover”(my
>>>>     vastly improved Tesla Turbine)
>>>>
>>>>     To be continued in next message:
>>>>
>>>>     Time line development of Technologies related to “VES” Green
>>>>     Energy Systems
>>>>
>>>>     This is the second Technology for the “VES” Project:  The
>>>>     Implosion Vortex Turbine.
>>>>
>>>>     Since back in the early 70’s I have been an “avid” Researcher
>>>>     in the Technology of Nikola Tesla.  I have everything that has
>>>>     ever been written by or about this “genius”.  Of very special
>>>>     interest was his Boundary Layer Turbine which he patented in
>>>>     1913.   After doing extensive research into this very efficient
>>>>     turbine unit I quickly came to the conclusion that all that
>>>>     were writing about or researching this device did not fully
>>>>     understand just how it worked for Tesla was very “shrewd” in
>>>>     writing his patents and never divulged all of the technology! 
>>>>     I went to the very “top” internet sites and publications
>>>>     regarding the subject turbine and found that no one had a
>>>>     “clue’ as to how it really was intended to work at the “super
>>>>     high thermal conversion” figures.  Bendix Corp. tested a 500HP
>>>>     version of this turbine being operated on steam and was
>>>>     astounded with the results. This turbine was abandoned early
>>>>     due to the lack of the proper metallurgy needed in the runners
>>>>     (disk) which had the needed stress modulus.  Due to my
>>>>     background and Degree in the Aeronautical Discipline I fully
>>>>     understood just how the Boundary Layer Effect was utilized by
>>>>     Tesla to achieve the phenomenal thermal efficiency. In 1994,
>>>>     same shop that I machined the IVR unit; I built a museum
>>>>     quality Tesla Turbine to demonstrate the technology.  I filed
>>>>     with the US Patent office the Patent Disclosure of a new very
>>>>     unique new hub design that eliminated all the labyrinth seal
>>>>     design of Tesla and booster the operational efficiency and
>>>>     simplified the construction of said turbine.  At the
>>>>     International Tesla Conference, Colorado Springs, 1995, I
>>>>     donated this Tesla Turbine along with the Patent Disclosure to
>>>>     the museum and it went on display and was demonstrated to all
>>>>     museum visitors.
>>>>
>>>>     After Jim and I addressed the IVR under “VES” his next question
>>>>     was “Norm, how are we going to utilize the thermal output of
>>>>     the IVR for power generation”?  My answer, Tesla Boundary Layer
>>>>     Turbine, to which Jim said, “Please educate me for I have not
>>>>     heard of this before”.  I sent to Jim all the documentation and
>>>>     drawings along with stress analytical formulas for the high
>>>>     speed disk utilized in the turbine.  Since this turbine
>>>>     operates at such high speeds, Jim quickly showed me the stress
>>>>     calculations for runners (disk) that he would produce in
>>>>     carbon/carbon composite that would successfully operate in the
>>>>     required environment and would be impervious to erosion and
>>>>     could be surface finished at the micron level.  I laid out in
>>>>     “Flow block” diagrams, the operation of the Boundary layer
>>>>     Turbine utilizing a high density refrigerant that had the
>>>>     operational characteristics we needed for a low pressure, low
>>>>     temperature very efficient turbine.  To achieve the “off the
>>>>     charts” thermal efficiency, advanced Mechanical Vapor
>>>>     Recompression (MVR) Industrial Heat pumping technology will be
>>>>     incorporated into the System. We are able to achieve a very
>>>>     conservative COP of 20:1 Energy in vs. thermal output.  This is
>>>>     totally achievable in the modern Heat pump Technology!  (MVR)
>>>>     Heat Pump technology will be address in next segment. Our
>>>>     system is a huge shift from the current steam turbines which
>>>>     all operate at very high pressures and very high temperatures
>>>>     so as to maximize the extraction or conversion of thermal
>>>>     energy into mechanical energy to drive the generators (really
>>>>     alternators).  “Carnot’ cycle” or method of calculating system
>>>>     thermal efficiency. Our System operates at relatively low
>>>>     pressures and temperatures vastly simplifying design,
>>>>     fabrication and operation and practically eliminates most
>>>>     maintenance requirements. Both Jim and I have all the
>>>>     documentation of this System in our files!   This is a unique
>>>>     System approach to be prototyped and Patent Apply for at the
>>>>     Victorville Facility.
>>>>
>>>>     No one has put together the “blocks” for such a System that has
>>>>     such very high performance and efficiency.
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     Next segment: MVR
>>>>
>>>>     ...
>>>>
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