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Hi Ole,
Not everybody agrees with the Climate change theory/hoax.

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    On Tuesday, 11 December 2018, 11:48:53 pm AEDT, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Hi Mick,

"Free markets rather thansocially overseen bullshit ones like UN fucking carbon creditswhere CO2 is now some pollutant but paying Gore will fix theproblem."
Our government has come up with a climate plan that experts as well as industry says isn't ambitious enough to solve the problem. The glaciers of Greenland are melting at increasing rates. The permafrost of Siberia is melting too causing huge releases of methane gas which is a much worse greenhouse gas than CO2. The CO2 level is at an extreme height. The melting of the ice of Greenland will cause big trouble for many highly populated areas along coastlines. This may cause millions of refugees from big cities when becoming uninhabitable. Therefore it is much cheaper to do something about the problem now than waiting a decade to solve it. This will make lots of jobs in creating solutions instead of having to evacuate big cities and coastlines. My small country is great in the world of producing wind turbines and energy efficient technology. We really need such non fossil energy alternatives if we want to still live above sea level. Evacuating a country and its high infrastructure will be quite expensive. Besides where should all the people go when lots of area will be affected in other countries too? To make the wind power industry was expensive for the tax payers but now it is a big export article making the investment pay back as well as having free energy and cleaner air.

The idea with the CO2 tax is to force people away from increasing the already huge fossil energy problem as well as paying for solutions. Investing the money in cleaner technology in the most polluting countries gives the best climate payback. Of course taxes aren't good in corrupt places. Thus first get rid of corruption which requires open systems.

Countries like India China Russia and USA have great potential to reduce CO2 emissions.

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Kone,

I agree with your assessment and don't believe anyone should ownresources outside their own country, perhaps a limited lease inexchange for building the infrastructure.  There is greed and lackof ethics in all systems socialist or capitalist.


Crony capitalism is evil.  War economies are evil, uncheckedprofit without ethics is evil. Lack of competition due to monopolyis evil. A system where one is able to live free and buildcompetitive business in an ethical way is the ultimate for humanascendance.  Unfortunately the US has been taken over by greedypeople without ethics.  The government in Venezuela is fucked,this is why we have so many people migrating to Colombia starvingand looking for work.  I speak to these people every day, nobullshit.  It is not the US fault what happened it is the fault ofgreedy pig socialist same as greedy pig capitalist.

Venezuela was a paradise and then the dictator forced out all theoil company engineers and other Venezuelan business professionalswho knew what they were doing in order to give high paying jobs tomilitary politicos who did not know shit but could protect hisass.  All the profitable businesses were socialized in theseways.  From what the Venezuelan doctor told me the roots of all ofthe downfall was promulgated the most by Cuban social engineeringmuch more so than US spook shit, though that was dirty pool nodoubt.  Poor people who do not fight to better themselves or arelimited for other reasons will always vote for the most free shitbut someone has to pay for it, sooner or later all the goodbusinesses leave and their are no jobs. Free markets rather thansocially overseen bullshit ones like UN fucking carbon creditswhere CO2 is now some pollutant but paying Gore will fix theproblem.  Total socialist top down control based business model. The places I go where one can live well and has the best access togoods and services are free market vertically integrated, all thesocialist top down controlled have much less options to a personwilling to perform learn and grow.  Unfortunately some peopleelicit a failure to thrive, in nature same thing happens withanimals, existence takes fucking hard work.

Doesn't matter the system human frailty is the sad part. Ideallywe should have no government and be self governing but sapiens arenot grounded and ethical enough yet and likely never will be aslong as they are taught UNESCO all suffering is due to someoneelse and they are simply victims of circumstance.  The truth aboutVenezuela is assholes took over and destroyed a healthy economy. There were CIA shenanigans for sure but this is not the reason forthe place sucking now.  Also Ecuador is changing to this shittysystem where the socialist government thinks they can fixeverything by taxing business's.  No one we spoke with who owned apizza place or a market etc were using bank accounts anymorebecause their money kept being appropriated for public works withhigher taxes every few months.  It is in a sad state now full ofcrime and hateful victim mentality.  Barely any selection atmarkets many shelves are not stocked.  Businesses are being forcedoffshore or closing so there is the truth witnessed firsthand. Being that I live in South America I have the opportunity toassess these issues first hand.

On 12/10/2018 4:15 PM, konehead@...[EVGRAY] wrote:


 
Pure bullshit propaganda "socialist" government beingcause of big problems in venezuala. The fucking capitalistwar monger pigs in wadhington dc are the problem,blockading, sanctioning. Starvng, sending in.metcenarie (paid terrorists) from Columbia and whoever wants to make aCIA buck killing innocent plus Supposed humanitarian NGOspaying protestrs to start riots and all the other shitcapitalist profit first evil pigs from hell will do.
Its all standard procedure for CIA and State departmentanytime a "socialist" government .voted into office tellsUS capitalist orporations to get the fuck out of theircountry and will never allow US military base on theirsoil.
Imagine the gal l to kick out US corporations who say they"own" land and industry in a country and give the land andindustry to the citizens of the country!! Fuck that isreason to invade kill thousands of socialist peasants whowould be better off dead than communist sympathizers eh...