Re: [EVGRAY] Wild fires?

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Hi Mick,

"Free markets rather than socially overseen bullshit ones like UN fucking carbon credits where CO2 is now some pollutant but paying Gore will fix the problem."
Our government has come up with a climate plan that experts as well as industry says isn't ambitious enough to solve the problem. The glaciers of Greenland are melting at increasing rates. The permafrost of Siberia is melting too causing huge releases of methane gas which is a much worse greenhouse gas than CO2. The CO2 level is at an extreme height. The melting of the ice of Greenland will cause big trouble for many highly populated areas along coastlines. This may cause millions of refugees from big cities when becoming uninhabitable. Therefore it is much cheaper to do something about the problem now than waiting a decade to solve it. This will make lots of jobs in creating solutions instead of having to evacuate big cities and coastlines. My small country is great in the world of producing wind turbines and energy efficient technology. We really need such non fossil energy alternatives if we want to still live above sea level. Evacuating a country and its high infrastructure will be quite expensive. Besides where should all the people go when lots of area will be affected in other countries too? To make the wind power industry was expensive for the tax payers but now it is a big export article making the investment pay back as well as having free energy and cleaner air.

The idea with the CO2 tax is to force people away from increasing the already huge fossil energy problem as well as paying for solutions. Investing the money in cleaner technology in the most polluting countries gives the best climate payback. Of course taxes aren't good in corrupt places. Thus first get rid of corruption which requires open systems.

Countries like India China Russia and USA have great potential to reduce CO2 emissions.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Kone,
 I agree with your assessment and don't believe anyone should own resources outside their own country, perhaps a limited lease in exchange for building the infrastructure.  There is greed and lack of ethics in all systems socialist or capitalist.

 Crony capitalism is evil.  War economies are evil, unchecked profit without ethics is evil. Lack of competition due to monopoly is evil. A system where one is able to live free and build competitive business in an ethical way is the ultimate for human ascendance.  Unfortunately the US has been taken over by greedy people without ethics.  The government in Venezuela is fucked, this is why we have so many people migrating to Colombia starving and looking for work.  I speak to these people every day, no bullshit.  It is not the US fault what happened it is the fault of greedy pig socialist same as greedy pig capitalist.
 Venezuela was a paradise and then the dictator forced out all the oil company engineers and other Venezuelan business professionals who knew what they were doing in order to give high paying jobs to military politicos who did not know shit but could protect his ass.  All the profitable businesses were socialized in these ways.  From what the Venezuelan doctor told me the roots of all of the downfall was promulgated the most by Cuban social engineering much more so than US spook shit, though that was dirty pool no doubt.  Poor people who do not fight to better themselves or are limited for other reasons will always vote for the most free shit but someone has to pay for it, sooner or later all the good businesses leave and their are no jobs. Free markets rather than socially overseen bullshit ones like UN fucking carbon credits where CO2 is now some pollutant but paying Gore will fix the problem.  Total socialist top down control based business model.  The places I go where one can live well and has the best access to goods and services are free market vertically integrated, all the socialist top down controlled have much less options to a person willing to perform learn and grow.  Unfortunately some people elicit a failure to thrive, in nature same thing happens with animals, existence takes fucking hard work.
 
 Doesn't matter the system human frailty is the sad part. Ideally we should have no government and be self governing but sapiens are not grounded and ethical enough yet and likely never will be as long as they are taught UNESCO all suffering is due to someone else and they are simply victims of circumstance.  The truth about Venezuela is assholes took over and destroyed a healthy economy.  There were CIA shenanigans for sure but this is not the reason for the place sucking now.  Also Ecuador is changing to this shitty system where the socialist government thinks they can fix everything by taxing business's.  No one we spoke with who owned a pizza place or a market etc were using bank accounts anymore because their money kept being appropriated for public works with higher taxes every few months.  It is in a sad state now full of crime and hateful victim mentality.  Barely any selection at markets many shelves are not stocked.  Businesses are being forced offshore or closing so there is the truth witnessed firsthand.  Being that I live in South America I have the opportunity to assess these issues first hand.

 On 12/10/2018 4:15 PM, konehead@... mailto:konehead@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Pure bullshit propaganda "socialist" government being cause of big problems in venezuala. The fucking capitalist war monger pigs in wadhington dc are the problem, blockading, sanctioning. Starvng, sending in.metcenarie ( paid terrorists) from Columbia and whoever wants to make a CIA buck killing innocent plus Supposed humanitarian NGOs paying protestrs to start riots and all the other shit capitalist profit first evil pigs from hell will do.
 Its all standard procedure for CIA and State department anytime a "socialist" government .voted into office tells US capitalist orporations to get the fuck out of their country and will never allow US military base on their soil.
 Imagine the gal l to kick out US corporations who say they "own" land and industry in a country and give the land and industry to the citizens of the country!! Fuck that is reason to invade kill thousands of socialist peasants who would be better off dead than communist sympathizers eh...