Body
Thanks! James, I am very well versed on all of Bedini's work. Welcome to
the Mick & Norm conversation for all input is welcome! All of this
goes way, way back to 1899 when Tesla was into improving Telegraphy.
On 11/20/2018 8:30 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm who were you talking to ?
>
> The Bedini ground was just a source to drag up more electrons past the
> diodes going to the caps in response to the hivoltage pluse .
>
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, Mick [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> OK thanks back to the bench, need to check BH on the battery setup
> again...
>
>
> On 11/20/2018 3:01 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> I see that you still have not had your LIGHT COME ON YET. You
>> are dwelling on the source side of the circuit which is not the
>> answer. Simply put, you have to create the condition where you
>> have a totally isolated charged inductor and charged capacitors
>> (TOTALLY ISOLATED) from any ground reference. Energy simply
>> cannot vanish into empty space. My 5 HP motor experiment
>> accomplished the isolation condition and when the energy was
>> annihilated, inductor energy & capacitor energy cancelled , I got
>> the EMP response from the earth side of the circuit. To hell
>> with the source, for once the inductor is flux loaded, to
>> saturation and capacitors are charged, then the source is totally
>> out of the equation. Once that starting contactor opens the
>> source is no longer a factor. In all of my trials with this, I
>> have never seen any degrading or rupture of dielectric material
>> nor damage to any wiring, no matter how small. The energy is in
>> the form of a very high freq (RF event) with very high current
>> but no damage to small appliance motors. I lived in a Dallas
>> neighborhood that had a power distribution sub station just down
>> the street from me. Numerous times during lightning storms I had
>> been awakened by my VHS VCR, old top loader, (turned off) tape
>> mechanism start up and start to eject tape, get half way and
>> reverse and put tape back down as before it started. Like a 1/2
>> cycle operation. This was sort of the same EMP neutral side
>> surge which affected the tape drive mechanism. People see the
>> sort of thing but are not smart enough to question why they
>> happen! Sorry to say that most of my experimentation was done on
>> the KEELY BBS and was a closed group.
>>
>> On 11/20/2018 11:33 AM, Mick [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the in depth post of your experience uncovering
>>> this event. Sorry to frustrate you with what seem like
>>> repetitive questions. Everything here is understood. My
>>> question had to do with the source side of the whole systemic
>>> occurrence and not that I don't understand just that I like
>>> things to be very succinct in my small brain, therefore I was
>>> trying to map out the circuit including all E and B field
>>> connections in order that for instance the ceiling fan
>>> experiment be replicated from a battery inverter source without
>>> connection to the utility. In other words the DUH I brought up
>>> the other week. You have explained the phenomenon and it's
>>> creation many times but seem to have left out the functions from
>>> the source side of the circuit and how that interacts with the
>>> whole experiment and magnetic connect-anniliation-reconnect.
>>>
>>> I have successfully replicated the shots to larger and smaller
>>> scale while using the utility sourced power but not yet reliably
>>> from an inverter driven isolated system so attempting to
>>> determine the best way to move forward on the source side
>>> without burning up any more devices or at least a minimum so. I
>>> think I need to procure an iso transformer with a center tap and
>>> ground it on the sink side to the center tap in order there is
>>> the magnetic connection to the earth on source side in the first
>>> place not just the ground rod on the sink side of the
>>> experiment. Otherwise part two will require a giant stepdown of
>>> similar proportions to a pole pig. Just trying to streamline
>>> and keep expenses low.
>>>
>>> I hope the above does not further frustrate you but rather
>>> conveys the why of my question which I can see seemed to be
>>> circular and puerile. Sorry to offend.
>>>
>>> By the way I don't know if you had posted this story before but
>>> with Yahoo and search and all your references to the neutral
>>> spike event I have never uncovered it.
>>>
>>> Thank again!
>>>
>>> On 11/20/2018 6:58 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mick! I am getting just like Hector here by having to explain
>>>> something over and over! I guess short memory is the cause for
>>>> lack of understanding the whole project. First you have to go
>>>> back to the 1981 ceiling fan, 1/6th HP capacitor run shaded
>>>> pole motor problem. A wiring error by a Chinese assembly worker
>>>> incorrectly wired the capacitor reversing switch into the
>>>> neutral side of the circuit which provided a total isolation of
>>>> charge while the switch was in transition from forward
>>>> operation to reverse operation. Reversing switch would
>>>> explode. This was my first encounter with the phenomenon which
>>>> I researched and determined that it was a Magneto-Electric
>>>> effect or better put, Magnetic flux annihilation-reconnect as
>>>> we now know it. In Physics we have always been taught that
>>>> energy cannot be destroyed but can change forms as we clearly
>>>> see by simple experiment. With this knowledge tucked back in
>>>> the memory bank, I had the occasion to encounter this
>>>> phenomenon again in around 1984. A wealthy widow had remodeled
>>>> her expansive Highland Park home (Dallas) and I had installed a
>>>> projection TV system into her den. MS. Sharp called and said
>>>> she had a Poltergeist in her den. When I arrived she served tea
>>>> and told me to sit there and wait a few minutes. The TV screen
>>>> and projector both started descending from the ceiling then
>>>> reversed and went back up. Both these motors were shaded pole,
>>>> capacitor run design so that switching via wall switch could
>>>> reverse operation, either up or down against limit switches.
>>>> Here is the Somfy motor example so you understand how they
>>>> operate:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be>
>>>> When I went into attic to examine the motorized units the
>>>> phenomenon occurred again. Sure enough the screen and projector
>>>> descended half way down then reversed and retracted. Over my
>>>> head was a powered turbo ventilator attic fan of shaded pole
>>>> design which took off ZIIIIINNNNG , super fast acceleration up
>>>> to a speed about 10X design speed but one big problem was that
>>>> it took off backwards! The turbine took several minutes to
>>>> coast down to a stop. A visit downstairs found that a small
>>>> appliance like a counter top blender in the kitchen (shaded
>>>> pole motor) would take off spinning backwards then stop. The
>>>> only connection that all these motor had when sitting in a
>>>> turned off state was a connection to the neutral buss.
>>>> Interesting fact was that with the very small size motor
>>>> windings and sudden fantastic acceleration up to very high
>>>> speed (backwards) did no damage to the motors. I did an
>>>> inspection to the mains breakers and house wiring including the
>>>> service cabelling and earth ground at the mains panel. All was
>>>> up to Dallas Code. While walking in side yard, I found a brand
>>>> new installation of a 5 ton A/C Condensing unit. in addition to
>>>> the older 5 ton unit. Both units were earth bonded via the
>>>> Required (Highland Park Code) 10 ft. ground rod at the units.
>>>> Both units were 5 Ton, 230VAC single phase. While I was
>>>> looking at the A/C units , the new one tried to start against a
>>>> locked rotor condition. From contactor closure to WHUUUUUMP,
>>>> EMP shot which you could feel the brissance in the ground took
>>>> about 1/2 second. This was the source of the EMP event which
>>>> caused the neutral buss to carry this very unusual form of
>>>> energy. The A/C guys came out and replaced the compressor and
>>>> rectified the situation but I came away with a better
>>>> understanding a very common phenomenon that most do not take
>>>> time to fully understand nor appreciate the implications. By
>>>> studing the ongoing research of the natural occurrence of this
>>>> EMP phenomenon from Solar magnetic storms Magnetic Annihilation
>>>> -Reconnect which have been duplicated in Labs gathering better
>>>> understanding of phenomenon. I elected to bench top duplicate
>>>> the situation which I had observed back in 1984 at the Sharp
>>>> residence. Since I was doing HVAC, Electrical and Electronics
>>>> Contracting, I had many compressors at my disposal just like
>>>> the one in the Carrier A/C unit. By hydraulic locking the
>>>> compressor via filling with oil and pinching off the suction
>>>> and discharge lines you have a fully locked up sealed unit See:
>>>>
>>>> This unit utilizes a 40mfd start cap and a 5mfd run cap
>>>> controlled by current relay. When energized via 2 pole,230VAC,
>>>> starter contactor, both the start and run windings are
>>>> energized. When the Over current relay senses the locked rotor
>>>> current of 84 amps ( motor in magnetic saturation) the circuit
>>>> is opened leaving the stored energy in total isolation with no
>>>> ground reference. A NECESSARY CONDITION TO GET THE MAGNETIC
>>>> FLUX ANNIHILATION-Re-CONNECT PHENOMENON or EMP. This
>>>> experiment is something anyone can duplicate and observe the
>>>> phenomenon for yourself. The reversible ceiling fan is the
>>>> simplest and easiest and less expensive to replicate. Most
>>>> current available reversible fans utilize the electrical
>>>> capacitor relocation via toggle switch to reverse rotation.
>>>> All you have to do is open up circuit and re-wire the cap so
>>>> that you have a momentary loss of ground reference (neutral)
>>>> while the reversing switch is in transit. Reverse it several
>>>> times and you will explode switch! Now Mick, what do you not
>>>> understand?? I was just too curious to let this go by without
>>>> finding an answer. Just remember the Axiom, Energy cannot be
>>>> destroyed but it can change forms.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/19/2018 10:04 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>> So why did you first notice this even at a clients, shorted
>>>>> start cap or seized bearing? Interesting I have noticed a
>>>>> ground rod near pool equipment with GFI but rarely have seen
>>>>> or can recall one next to a heat pump or AC unit and 10 feet
>>>>> ground rod damn that's deeper than a dirt nap. At 60hz the
>>>>> capacitive coupling is negligible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless I am misunderstanding something the L1-L2 at the supply
>>>>> side... coupling to earth would still be at the transformer to
>>>>> center tap neutral back at the pole then the neutral is ground
>>>>> bonded at the service. Since it is on the sink side of the
>>>>> transformer from the utility there is a direct path to ground
>>>>> through a certain impedance,reactance and reluctance whatever
>>>>> importance that plays into the event.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/19/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Locked means exactly what the term expresses! No rotor motion
>>>>>> relative to stator! On the early 5 Ton A/C units they were
>>>>>> service wired with a 3 conductor wip from service disconnect
>>>>>> to A/C unit! You had L-1 & L-2 230VAC (hots) and a green
>>>>>> earth bonding wire to motor and chasis frame. In addition,
>>>>>> you had a10 ft. ground stake into earth ground to bond this
>>>>>> outdoor installation for safety reasons. When over-current
>>>>>> relay (84 amps) drops out starter contactor there is NO
>>>>>> GROUND PATH to discipate the charge, both magbetic flux
>>>>>> sayuration (Inductive power) and the two charged capacitors
>>>>>> in the circuit. This energy is in an isolated state due to
>>>>>> insulation in the motor windings and capacitors. Ole will
>>>>>> jump in here and say there is capacitive coupling between
>>>>>> motor frame and isolated capacitance and magnetic flux at
>>>>>> saturation. I built and did the test on this phenomenon
>>>>>> after I saw it in real life in a clients back yard. Easy to
>>>>>> duplicate! The reversible ceiling fan trick can be done by
>>>>>> anyone by just changing the wiring on the reversing capacitor
>>>>>> in-order to float neutral while the reversing switch is in
>>>>>> transition. Simple! ( BOOM)!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/18/2018 11:15 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How did you run the motor in locked mode, by preventing the
>>>>>>> start cap from energizing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you experimented with the energy from this motor where
>>>>>>> did you extract the differential, from the green wire
>>>>>>> running back to the service panel or another grounding rod
>>>>>>> and from the motor frame where the ground bonding clip
>>>>>>> usually is or somewhere else?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Assuming frame on your dual winding induction motor was
>>>>>>> isolated sink side from the stator windings by their
>>>>>>> insulation as you mentioned earlier there was no neutral
>>>>>>> and on the source side by the center tap in the pole pig?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure why I was thinking locked was synchronous mode as
>>>>>>> we discussed earlier the concept of Mag Transmitter is to
>>>>>>> saturate the core and release, or as Hector likes to say
>>>>>>> switch off to turn on. Some major issues going on here,
>>>>>>> head on backwards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So impedance does opposite of a LC tank and dropped like a
>>>>>>> series LC hmmm...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/18/2018 3:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks! Ole for the explanation! Rotation is required
>>>>>>>> inorder for counter emf to be generated. In stalled rotor
>>>>>>>> or locked rotor conditions, the current through the
>>>>>>>> windings is only limited by R = resitance. My dual winding
>>>>>>>> 5 HP motor in locked rotor had a combined current draw of
>>>>>>>> 84 amps @ 230VAC input. When you look at the BH curve on a
>>>>>>>> scope you see the magnetic flux build to saturation at
>>>>>>>> which point the impedance is = to Zero ( air value) with R
>>>>>>>> being the only limiting factor. (Ole). I used the dual
>>>>>>>> winding motor for it has a starting cap value of 40mfd and
>>>>>>>> a run cap with a value of 5 mfd, both of which are in
>>>>>>>> circuit when current limiting relay drops circuit open
>>>>>>>> yielding the Neutral Spike form ground. Magneto Electric
>>>>>>>> effect. For it to work, the caps and motor windings have to
>>>>>>>> be isolated from neutral and earth ground reference. the
>>>>>>>> iron motor frame is earth bonded. Cancellation of energy in
>>>>>>>> isolation will create an EMP earth ground response. This
>>>>>>>> goes back to Page 25 of CSN by Tesla himself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/17/2018 5:12 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Locked rotor is when the rotor is prevented from rotating.
>>>>>>>>> This is also known as stalled rotor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Synchronous speed is when the rotor follows the rotating
>>>>>>>>> magnetic wave(s) of the stator. In an induction motor
>>>>>>>>> (asynchronous motor) this means no power transmission
>>>>>>>>> between the rotor and the stator. The motor is then
>>>>>>>>> working neither as motor or generator.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Slip is the ratio between the rotor speed and the rotating
>>>>>>>>> field speed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am slowly digesting this but I think my concept of
>>>>>>>>> locked rotor was/is in error. Always thought this was
>>>>>>>>> when the rotor is locked to the rotational field from
>>>>>>>>> stator with least amount of slip, seems like I am reading
>>>>>>>>> now it is most amount of slip.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you provide what locked rotor means to you and any
>>>>>>>>> additional information of what you think may be occurring
>>>>>>>>> beyond the everyday accepted definition?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 5:55 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mick, Ole, Kone etal! I have been thinking a lot
>>>>>>>>>> about my Locked Rotor experiments and did a lot of
>>>>>>>>>> reading to come up with a fool proof Lenz free motor
>>>>>>>>>> / generator combination which is so easy to build and
>>>>>>>>>> proof test! First of all you should read what we know
>>>>>>>>>> as facts! See the following articles:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as
>>>>>>>>>> found at K&G Magnetics and shown in the video of the
>>>>>>>>>> Ray's LENZ free generator. What I will propose is
>>>>>>>>>> very simple application of DC motor principles as
>>>>>>>>>> read from the cited references. First you make your
>>>>>>>>>> LENZ free motor which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR
>>>>>>>>>> (Solenoid) which will give the necessary stroke
>>>>>>>>>> length to drive the LINEAR generator (Coil
>>>>>>>>>> oscillating within the drag free, LENZ free area of
>>>>>>>>>> the Neo magnets). Stroke of the solenoid is
>>>>>>>>>> controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive switch to
>>>>>>>>>> give an excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60
>>>>>>>>>> HZ. By using a DC pulse to drive the solenoid coil
>>>>>>>>>> it is tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR condition,
>>>>>>>>>> thus no LENZ effect. Has the light come on yet??
>>>>>>>>>> We know that Ray's generator puts out a sine wave
>>>>>>>>>> output (AC) with no LENZ drag. Following the DC motor
>>>>>>>>>> principles as applied to the solenoid driver, you
>>>>>>>>>> have a motor that is LENZ free also. The combo should
>>>>>>>>>> give an Over-unity output. Now the tricky part! We
>>>>>>>>>> know as Ole will agree in that when you switch the
>>>>>>>>>> solenoid power to off state as magnetic flux is
>>>>>>>>>> building toward saturation there will be a huge
>>>>>>>>>> voltage spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to
>>>>>>>>>> capture and not send to ground as ordinary practice
>>>>>>>>>> in solid state switch design (snubber diodes) The
>>>>>>>>>> capture of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs
>>>>>>>>>> naturally will be the over-unity factor here!
>>>>>>>>>> Interesting concept! Think about it! Norm Mick!
>>>>>>>>>> (accumulator HV caps)!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank
>>>>>>>>>>> than otherwise, but it could also have to do with
>>>>>>>>>>> noise in the core material as I was no using an air
>>>>>>>>>>> inductor.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mick,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then
>>>>>>>>>>>> disconnected from the reactive source then
>>>>>>>>>>>> discharged to a resistive load then reconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>> energized back to the standing wave modality
>>>>>>>>>>>> recharged disconnected discharged etc. If the
>>>>>>>>>>>> reactive energy is harvested in this manner are you
>>>>>>>>>>>> claiming the same losses will occur as power factor
>>>>>>>>>>>> correcting the reactive back into real power?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes that's correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Common power factor correction in AC is for
>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminating the reactive power that doesn't do any
>>>>>>>>>>>> work but just heats the wires between the power
>>>>>>>>>>>> plant and the reactive load. This is expensive for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the owners of the power transmission lines and thus
>>>>>>>>>>>> should be avoided. First storing the energy in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> capacitor (or inductor or battery) and then dumping
>>>>>>>>>>>> it to an active load will still make the power go
>>>>>>>>>>>> in just one direction even though it happens in
>>>>>>>>>>>> pulses. The energy is then moving from the source
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the load. Reactive power has the energy moving
>>>>>>>>>>>> to and from the load and power source. The power
>>>>>>>>>>>> moving between the capacitor and inductor in an
>>>>>>>>>>>> LC-tank is pure reactive except for the loss
>>>>>>>>>>>> because of the parasitic resistance in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> components and wires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent
>>>>>>>>>>>> terminology and not concerning ourselves with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> patent just a very high Q tank.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then
>>>>>>>>>>>> disconnected from the reactive source then
>>>>>>>>>>>> discharged to a resistive load then reconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>> energized back to the standing wave modality
>>>>>>>>>>>> recharged disconnected discharged etc. If the
>>>>>>>>>>>> reactive energy is harvested in this manner are you
>>>>>>>>>>>> claiming the same losses will occur as power factor
>>>>>>>>>>>> correcting the reactive back into real power?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have only read to the following paragraph
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cited below. I wonder if the applicant knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about what he is writing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citing paragraph 106 of the patent application
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf>):
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "[0106] There is voltage across the inductor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected in series to the capacitor and there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is voltage across the inductor connected in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> parallel to the capacitor. Since
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Power=voltage×current, a single power input
>>>>>>>>>>>>> produces two branches of electromagnetic power
>>>>>>>>>>>>> output, increasing the power output. In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternative, the present disclosure may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one electromagnetic power output with less
>>>>>>>>>>>>> energy input."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't as simple as this. If using an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> oscilloscope for measuring the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> voltage it will show some phase displacement
>>>>>>>>>>>>> between the current and voltage which means
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reactive power. Look at the following small
>>>>>>>>>>>>> videos to see how one can be misled if not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowing how the phase between the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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