Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery

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Warren,

No it was not you guys.  Let's just say the oppressors are experts at
getting people to compromise themselves then using it against them and
keeping them on a leash.  Even a person who is totally on the up and up
with all dealings and does not smoke and not eat lot's of animal
products has a difficult time staying sane.  Mental health professionals
would likely make it worse as they are trained to use drugs rather than
nutrition and exercise so it creates a sowball effect.

Nuff said

On 11/19/2018 4:45 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Mick
>
> Rick was quite sincere, and had to work around John's self defeating
> sense of paranoia. John certainly suffered occasional bouts of mental
> illness, when Bart, and I visited with him for about four days.
> He would be his solid self, logical, and down to earth, then take
> flight as if green aliens were after him, in conversation.
> I sure hope it was not me sending him to those dark places, by Bart,
> and I, visiting. John's brother would keep John out of the mental
> bushes, I think.
> Rick is a very sensitive sort who was good for John, but John would
> have issues.
> Health care in the US is not cheap, if you are self employed, plus
> there are stigmas attached to mental health problems, so it seems the
> general level of care is poor, in small communities like John lived in.
> On top of that, there might have been bad experiences, John may have
> had with bad people, I once read.
> John had a profound knowledge of electronics, and semi conductors
> right from the basic ingredients, to designing circuits, and a great
> mind, working well beyond the box.
> We had a cordial and candid visit, and got along on many levels
> including his '32 Ford coup.
> I supported Rick with the boat project, as it was an area I have been
> interested in.
> I helped Rick some time before, with doing an energy show, in Upper
> State NY featuring John Bedini's work, and teaching folks how to wire
> muffin fans as  motor generators.
> Cheers Warren
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>     On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 3:36 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>
>     Bart,
>
>     Rick said Johns brother knew nothing about electronics not John. 
>     I spoke to Rick for a couple hours a few months back, some of what
>     he told me was intriguing about his and Johns falling out.  Rick
>     said he came up with the idea of the large multicore kits and John
>     agreed but left Rick mostly on his own to build them.  Everything
>     was hunky dory until Rick built the boat with the electric motor
>     and Bedini charging system, this according to Rick of course.  He
>     said John had said to him in passing prior be careful don't build
>     anything too big but just in passing never with any sort of urgency.
>
>     Rick built a boat and was giving people rides and he said it is
>     after that point John became unfriendly to him and while before he
>     was treated with respect and golden afterwards he was the brunt of
>     Johns many jokes and insults.  He said had he understood the
>     building something bigger was really a serious warning not to he
>     would not have but he always took it as the sort of running line
>     like the boogieman will come.  He said the point of him breaching
>     any rule or guideline was never discussed afterwards only the
>     daily surliness of John to him was apparent.  Rick said this was
>     his best guess of the transgression but he could only interpret by
>     time and action, not a direct reprimand.
>
>     So this is the story from Rick who seemed to me sincere and much
>     kinder a person than the few times I spoke to John on the phone
>     back in the 80's after I told him I was a recording engineer he
>     became ultra short and snitty.
>     Not claiming John was lacking as a great teacher and resource or
>     in any way clouding his memory just reporting the facts as best I
>     am aware.  As one can imagine after a long chat there were many
>     other facets but perhaps another time.
>
>     Mick
>
>     On 11/19/2018 7:26 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>      
>>
>>     Hello Warren
>>
>>     Sure do! It has been having myself reflect on things over the
>>     years. Whats it been ten now I think?
>>
>>     I kept John busy while you were up stairs going through builds
>>     with Rick! lol
>>
>>     John and I must have smoked a pack a day . Once Tom Beardon
>>     called, John put him on speaker , all I said was hi! lol
>>
>>     It was when John was coming out with his ten coiler and was
>>     nervous about his security, I offered he, Gary and Tom to sell
>>     them in Canada.
>>
>>     Tom thought it was a good idea.
>>
>>     But Rick put the brakes on it. I think Rick said he has his
>>     parents in Mississauga or some wheres . Rick recently released a
>>     video stating John new nothing about
>>
>>     electronics. I will try to find it if you have not seen it. I did
>>     buy Ricks run charge circuit and modified it with some coil
>>     bangers. I managed to get 850 volts and 40 - 8o amps.
>>
>>     Out of a 12 volt lead acid. Then my shop got broken into. The
>>     older retired electronics engineer Keith had helped me with it.
>>
>>     I asked John about Ron Cole I think was the name of the fellow
>>     whom had a battery run cold and at 17.5 volts or some thing.
>>
>>     From an old large wheel build like a hit and miss design. John
>>     said he and Ron sketched out some circuits on napkins and they
>>     got posted on line.
>>
>>     Then Ron disappeared from a meet and greet showing of builds one
>>     weekend. When Ron returned from where ever ,he said Ron never
>>     spoke to him again.
>>
>>     If you recall John said the magna coaster box was nothing more
>>     than a ferro inverter. You have it on vid I think.
>>
>>     I remember asking John , what do you suggest I build in order to
>>     secure independence? His answer was , a giant mono-pole with a
>>     cam out the side of a building.
>>
>>      Warren we both agreed on acquiring at least one thing while out
>>     seeing him. We agreed on the Kromrey.   I remember John saying
>>     use the same magnets as the monopole
>>
>>     You had said you are going to use permanent and think John said
>>     you might have a problem with switching! I do not recall how
>>     efficient Johns unit ran at 40watt ou? Or maybe more?  May I
>>     suggest building another with the weaker mags. i would like to
>>     purchase his if possible. He said he had it given to him from a
>>     widower in Germany again I think?
>>
>>     Warren Johns gone now , with respect I speak this. You however
>>     have currently a good group here with some veteran like talents. 
>>     Norm, H,Ole, Kone and so on.
>>
>>     Please focus on a working devise and commit to it long enough for
>>     results. As this to shall pass! I see this forum as a social
>>     group more than anything else.
>>
>>     Rather than just collecting the regular wall of shame, get some
>>     thing working.
>>
>>     I am not playing the insult please. I can not stay focused myself
>>     with as much commitment here as others,,, so whom am I to say.
>>
>>     But the time I sense is here and now!
>>
>>
>>     Bart 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on
>>     behalf of Warren Keillor [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>     <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     *Sent:* November 18, 2018 10:03 PM
>>     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>      
>>      
>>
>>     Hey Bart
>>
>>     Remember Bedini's shop?
>>     Cheers Warren
>>
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>>
>>         On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 1:38 PM, bart woodard
>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>          
>>
>>         James
>>
>>                        On the recycling of exhaust event. On your 30
>>         to 60% value with an end result of 100% plus or minus.
>>
>>         There would be a gain should some one look at increasing the
>>         embodiment factor on the molecule chain along with the
>>         recycled thermal value.
>>
>>         hho or hhoi  or what ever have you, currently only standard
>>         builds have a short slap on the work effort value @ approx 9
>>         times faster than fossil.
>>
>>         Look at increasing the work time schedule by increasing the
>>         element count on the molecule. In another words increase the
>>         chain.
>>
>>         My 5 gas analyzer has been borrowed by the thieves otherwise
>>         I may be able to say with more definition' .As you would not
>>         want to just breath in the exhaust.
>>
>>         You can always modify the exhaust for the exhaust particles
>>         desired.
>>
>>         Currently I need a controller to test the latest. Now testing
>>         rotary.  I will post a vid..
>>
>>
>>         Bart
>>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>         *From:* [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of Warren Keillor
>>         [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         *Sent:* November 18, 2018 4:01 AM
>>         *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>          
>>          
>>
>>         James
>>
>>         As a diver, one atmosphere is 15lbs(wroughly) or 30 ft, which
>>         is even less pressure, and can raise, or drop, a tiny bit
>>         with atmospheric change, or elevation.. 
>>         Little bubbles can raise a sunken ship, weighing hundreds of
>>         tons, and locks and displacement were ancient marvels of
>>         marine science, so recently taken for granted.
>>         Spend time musing in the aquarium section of a pet store at
>>         the various bubble driven underwater toys in fish tanks.
>>         A divers buoyancy compansator can shoot you to the surface,
>>         if you over inflate it, or air bags lift sunken cannon as
>>         easy as an elevator, or crane.
>>         When you change practical disciplines, you keep finding
>>         little cracks in the engineering envelope of science. It is
>>         amazing how trades keep to themselves, their quirky little
>>         secret discoveries, which viewed in a brighter light, might
>>         just be over unity, or not, depending on the observer's
>>         interests.
>>         The fact is, we are surrounded by the "magic" of over unity,
>>         when we combine physics, chemistry, biology, and philosophy,
>>         yet our education system tends to create specialists, rather
>>         than those useless kids who just take one course, after
>>         another, in any subject that interests them, never seeming to
>>         get a real job, and being a drain on the family finances.
>>         Engineers, are specialists vectored to solve specific problems.
>>         One can never take for granted how weird shit like religion,
>>         or politics does not come into to the reality filters, when
>>         you are staring straight at over unity, there, in front of you.
>>         My advice is to bench test stuff yourself, if you can, and
>>         from there build your own personal encyclopedia of solutions
>>         that work, realizing that every bit of information you
>>         receive is filtered a little by every editor, or each of us,
>>         according to self awareness, and biases, and then passed on
>>         to others.
>>         Nobody has the time to bench test everything themselves, so
>>         we build a network of reliable sources, and hope they don't
>>         screw up, and fall to pieces, in a media overloaded era.
>>         On top of all of this is the paranoia laced notion that there
>>         are actually are jerks out there, trying to intentionally 
>>         misinform, because they are on some crazed agenda, or
>>         somebody's paid stooges, working for a service.
>>         In short, your idea has merit, so devise a simple little
>>         test, out of common stuff, and try it out.
>>         Hot glue is waterproof.
>>         Cheers Warren
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>>
>>             On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 2:07 PM, James Glinski
>>             [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>             <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>             wrote:
>>              
>>
>>             On the water topic I'm thinking this idea of using hho to
>>             drive a buoyancy generator is a path to over unity .here
>>             is why .say you got a bolancy generator that you only get
>>             out what you put in it ..say 100 watt in and a 100 Watts
>>             out or slightly less it's not OU but some have claimed a
>>             30% OU using a air compressor .with using a HHO Meyer
>>             style system you get your energy back to run the
>>             electronics and keep things going or a little less than
>>             that .being it's still not OU .but near the OU generally
>>             but not there yet ..now add the explosive power of the
>>             HHO to the mix .that's  OU for shure two uses for the gas
>>             .and no compressor needed .it can generate the gas under
>>             pressure .some guys have run there systems at 30 psi some
>>             at 60 psi .that means at 30 you can go down around 29 to
>>             30 ft of water and raise  a column of water with  a
>>             bubble of HHO and it will expand as the psi comes off of
>>             it as it rises. That just extra .more than what you put
>>             into it .the deeper you go the more you raise the more
>>             you move Thu your generator .then run a 4 stroke
>>             generator on the gas .win win win .it's got to work .I
>>             don't see any reason why not !.your getting tripple
>>             leverage out of one energy source .even with using the
>>             worst efficiency's.it <http://s.it>'s over the top...most
>>             are happy with just braking even this is much more .if we
>>             can find ways to create energy that has more then just
>>             one use or job by getting it to do two or three things
>>             man oh man  we will be there and start working on
>>             transcoding it in to use full items .like water
>>             fertilizer,. Heat..ect.and get off this hunt .
>>
>>             On Thursday, November 15, 2018, george gray
>>             [email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>             wrote:
>>
>>                  
>>                 Thanks Bart.
>>                 George
>>
>>
>>                 On Wednesday, 14 November 2018, 2:52:20 pm AEDT, bart
>>                 woodard [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>                 <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>                  
>>                 George,
>>                                 I have not disclosed as of yet how I
>>                 make mine as it still seems to be an interest to
>>                 manufacturer them.
>>                 You can how ever get similar results which take
>>                 longer but does work using a magnetic stirrer.
>>                 Use distilled water and run the distilled for an hour
>>                 or less to increase the ph.
>>                 Most distilled water comes 6.2 or so , try to get the
>>                 ph to spike then settle to 7.4 making it alkaline.
>>                 Crush up your vitamins or what have you and throw
>>                 them in. Works great......
>>
>>                 https://hannainst.com/hi190m-
>>                 1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
>>                 <https://hannainst..com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
>>
>>                 Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna
>>                 Instruments
>>                 <https://hannainst..com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
>>                 hannainst.com <http://hannainst.com>
>>                 Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with
>>                 plastic cover can stir up to 1 liter. Big power,
>>                 small footprint. Perfect for any lab!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>                 *From:* [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                 <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of george
>>                 gray [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>                 <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>                 *Sent:* November 13, 2018 10:20 PM
>>                 *To:* bart woodard [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>                 *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>                  
>>                  
>>                 Bart,
>>
>>                 I haven't looked up the links yet.  Will they show me
>>                 how to make this water?  Or can you tell me how to
>>                 make this water?
>>
>>                 George
>>
>>
>>                 On Wednesday, 14 November 2018, 7:10:14 am AEDT, bart
>>                 woodard [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>                 <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>                  
>>
>>                 Ok well I did not meaningly want to create any miss
>>                 directions here but did , coming from a frustrated
>>                 exercised  value mostly.
>>
>>                 This is primarily a Tesla group really. Tesla showed
>>                 signs of ocd , but really who can blame him as
>>                 mankind boxed him in then disregarded him.
>>
>>                 Not all symptoms and diseases are  related or have
>>                 the same values, tho they may be similar.
>>
>>                 The water I make is  4 to 8 times smaller molecular
>>                 size with little to no carcinogens , as there is no
>>                 such thing as having a zero carcinogen value.
>>
>>                 I make it from distilled. It is highly charged. So it
>>                 helps with many issues,  the wife however says its
>>                 not clinically proven so really no reports or claims
>>                 may be made only by private means.
>>
>>                 Individual results have come in and are coming in on
>>                 a steady basis with positive results on all counts on
>>                 physical health and mental,
>>
>>                 Here is what I believe that may be happening combined
>>                 with digestive value problems mostly regarding autism
>>                 in this chat. 
>>
>>                 Whether or not its due to a lack of enzymes acting as
>>                 a catalyst or whether or not the stomach intelligence
>>                 is not engaged with our *Vagus Nerve*
>>                 <https://www.lifeadvancer.com/vagus-nerve-migraines-inflammation-depression>
>>
>>                 A quick link
>>
>>                 https://www.learning-mind.com/
>>                 scientists-discovered-second-
>>                 brain-in-the-human-body/
>>                 <https://www.learning-mind.com/scientists-discovered-second-brain-in-the-human-body/>
>>
>>
>>                 So the highly charged water is now delivered through
>>                 out the body via hydration substrate. The blood
>>                 becomes aerobic with a strong supported charge
>>                 delivering
>>
>>                 any value you wish to any area you wish.
>>
>>
>>
>>                 http://www.lavidadolce.com/ nerd-alert-measuring-
>>                 brainwaves-could-lead-to-an-
>>                 objective-autism-diagnosis/
>>                 <http://www.lavidadolce.com/nerd-alert-measuring-brainwaves-could-lead-to-an-objective-autism-diagnosis/>
>>
>>
>>                 While the body detoxes , healing immediately starts
>>                 to occur. Whether it be migraines, blood passages ,
>>                 muscles etc.
>>
>>                 Autistic people seemed trapped with in and can not
>>                 express them selves. Some exercise intelligence with
>>                 in and express it by means of anger through frustration.
>>
>>
>>                 When they drink the water they no longer express them
>>                 selves through anger and seem more communicative.
>>
>>                 I feel with an exercise on a regular program , the
>>                 water could assist or even cure the problem for some.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>                 *From:* [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                 <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of george
>>                 gray [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>                 <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>                 *Sent:* November 13, 2018 9:04 AM
>>                 *To:* bart woodard [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>                 *Subject:* Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>                  
>>                  
>>                 Bart,
>>
>>                 Tell me about your water that would help the children
>>                 with autism.
>>
>>                 George
>>
>>                 On Tuesday, 13 November 2018, 9:29:47 am AEDT, bart
>>                 woodard [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>                 <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>                  
>>
>>                 Mick Kone
>>
>>                                      Kone as usual your advice and
>>                 words do not go unheard. Thank you.
>>
>>                 Yourself as well Mick. It seems as tho everyday now
>>                 the yesterday day becomes the old way .
>>
>>                 As well,  the rules change on a constant.
>>
>>                 Those parties you mentioned Kone , now mostly wear
>>                 suits and own the convenience store as well as the
>>                 shopping mall, your local politician, cop , school
>>                 teacher and so on.
>>
>>                 Ultimately the world now dictates our streets. Not we
>>                 as individuals so much. Canada is looked at as mini
>>                 America more globally now. Trying its best to benefit
>>                 from Americas mistakes and create a new path
>>                 economically.
>>
>>                 Such as growing dope, developing AI  etc.
>>
>>                 As I mentioned I went to India for six months  and
>>                 befriended some ministers, wow corruption at its
>>                 best.   But there  , its the way of life.
>>
>>                 Clearly we are not India , we are however doing the
>>                 same exercise, just different facades. Its mankind's
>>                 crap of  order, tho it is at least that I suppose.
>>
>>                  But I do hear your advice's. Perhaps I should not
>>                 have even mentioned it.
>>
>>                 The wife found some cheap tickets to Calgary so we
>>                 went the weekend before last to visit our daughter.
>>
>>                 We also took with our newly adopted son whom showed
>>                 up on our doorstep from the University lol
>>
>>                 he is Indian (India)  . His girlfriend also came
>>                 along . We managed to get them  employment where my
>>                 daughter was working at.
>>
>>                 A facility for full time stay for autism children. I
>>                 do think my water would help the children but
>>                 daughter said its not certified , So no we could not.
>>
>>                 Frustrating, especially since it does show help on
>>                 some studies. But the wife says its not clinically
>>                 proven.
>>
>>                 While there we went to Banff
>>
>>                 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Banff,_Alberta
>>                 <https://en.wikipedia..org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
>>
>>                 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
>>                 	
>>                 Banff, Alberta - Wikipedia
>>                 <https://en.wikipedia..org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
>>                 en.wikipedia.org <http://en.wikipedia.org>
>>                 Banff is a town within Banff National Park in
>>                 Alberta, Canada.It is located in Alberta's Rockies
>>                 along the Trans-Canada Highway, approximately 126 km
>>                 (78 mi) west of Calgary and 58 km (36 mi) east of
>>                 Lake Louise.At an elevation of 1,400 m (4,600 ft) to
>>                 1,630 m (5,350 ft), Banff is the community with the
>>                 second highest elevation in Alberta after Lake Louise.
>>
>>                 We went up on the Gondola and had lunch.  Vinay our
>>                 son from India says yup  we are up where the goats
>>                 screw and the eagles fly!
>>
>>
>>                 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>                 *From:* [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                 <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Mick
>>                 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                 [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>                 *Sent:* November 12, 2018 10:49 AM
>>                 *To:* [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                 *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic
>>                 Battery
>>                  
>>                  
>>
>>                 Kone,
>>
>>                 Strangely enough this has not happened here in
>>                 Oregon, that's the old days of growing I think.  I
>>                 was waiting for big gang shootouts too, never
>>                 happened.  Since they can't use banks they drive the
>>                 cash up to Salem to pay the taxes.  These dispensary
>>                 people are traveling with big dough, a lot easier to
>>                 hit than pulling semis into a grow operation.    It
>>                 takes trucks to move all they are growing now.  I
>>                 know some grower folks who were doing close to a
>>                 million a year, now prices have dropped and
>>                 everything taxed they are barely getting by.   Money
>>                 here was supposed to go to the cops but they are
>>                 complaining about shortfalls and writing bonds for
>>                 new jails and other bullshit.  Just like the lotto
>>                 going to schools the weed money is being stolen by
>>                 the govn mafia.  A few months back there was a
>>                 release of the PERS retirement data for govn
>>                 workers.  Many of these people are making more than
>>                 they ever did working sometimes double and high six
>>                 figures.  Meanwhile they keep raising the property
>>                 tax each year to pay these retirements of which they
>>                 are claiming we are 22 billion in the red. 
>>
>>                 Check out this shit:
>>
>>                 https://gov.oregonlive.com/ pers/
>>                 <https://gov...oregonlive.com/pers/>
>>
>>                 <https://gov.oregonlive..com/pers/>
>>                 	
>>                 Oregon Public Employees Retirement System :: Your ...
>>                 <https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/>
>>                 gov.oregonlive.com <http://gov.oregonlive..com>
>>                 Here are the 129,544 people with pension benefits
>>                 from the Oregon Public Employees Retirement System as
>>                 of Jan. 1, 2018.
>>
>>
>>                 On 11/11/2018 11:21 PM, [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>                  
>>>
>>>                 Hi Bart
>>>
>>>                 Thanks for all your posts and contributions here!!
>>>
>>>                 Worst thing to look out for in grow operations is
>>>                 gangs (russian bikers mexicans chinese vietnamese
>>>                 etc etc etc) finding where is grow operation then
>>>                 breaking in and stealing everything as soon as.its
>>>                 ready for market. What are you going to do shoot
>>>                 everyone? Cops can be put in caatevory of gangs too,
>>>                 they are corrupt everywhere in world, carry guns,
>>>                 look out for only themselves get away with.murder
>>>                 all the time.
>>>                 Let those guys with small army private army do the
>>>                 growing you could provide technical expertise...look
>>>                 into putting neodymium magnet under roots of
>>>                 plants.. pot itself not so bad but what they will
>>>                 dip the shitty leftover in is what is fucked up
>>>                 formaldahyde (aka dank) , meth, heroin, opium,
>>>                 speed, evev viagra wbo knows what is in the
>>>                 shit...legal is good since you know what it is at
>>>                 least but those already established illegal pot
>>>                 growers are pissed when it goes legal and will break
>>>                 in and steal no problem if site becomes known...in
>>>                 your town I think is biker gangs controlling weed
>>>                 market...biker gangs and cops sometimes symbiotic
>>>                 Kone
>>>
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